Which is, what, 2k active players now? Develop PC, put Legion on Steam, and you will make those players back on launch day twice over and then some.

This isn't chess, it is checkers. PC all the way.

Your rosy optimism belies your bias for CCP to abandon the people who actually believed in Dust. It could be a marginally okay business strategy, but they would be even bigger shitters than they already are if they did.

actually dude bro, Dust would be a billion times better on PS4, XB1 and PC, fact of the matter IT IS BEING RELEASED ON PC so really your arguing for something thats already happening.

You want to really make this game epic release it on the WII plus.

(warning my statement may contain lies)

It's clear that Dust *could* be infinite times better on PC (and, actually you may want to take into account what kind of PC).

Still, talking as someone that doesn't want to see this game fails again, I'd say it is better to continue with Sony rather than move to PC and the reasons are multiple:

- The actual community is mostly formed by console gamers: most of them wouldn't play on PC because of their own choice, otherwise they wouldn't be playing this game on PS3.

- The F2P market on PC is simply saturated. If I'd wanted to, I could find dozens of F2P FPS on PC. Rattati may argue that Dust is different which is in part true, but this doesn't change one of the most important things in games: the fun factor. Different is not necessarily better.

- They already have a well-enstablished game on PC which may act as a self-competitor for Dust/Legion.

- The nature of Dust/Legion is competitive. It actually is better a console over a PC: everyone runs the same hardware, the same specs, the same game. There's nothing you could do to dramatically increase your personal performance, hence, it is much fairer.

- On the other hand, both Microsoft and Sony are trying to let their consoles be more and more accessible for indies and in general, much more dev-friendly. This means, for example, much shorter QA periods (which is actually 3 days for Sony)

- The closed nature of consoles also has its advantage points: you only have to develop on a specific hardware, meaning you know the specs of all the people playing your game, meaning you can both squeeze the system and optimize better.

Although if you have an uber-PC you'd have a photorealistic graphic at 60fps in Dust, it would be useless because it's going to be you and another hundred people who would eventually get bored sooner or later or you'd have to massively tune down your settings at "Dust 514" Level.

Your rosy optimism belies your bias for CCP to abandon the people who actually believed in Dust. It could be a marginally okay business strategy, but they would be even bigger shitters than they already are if they did.

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?

Many (me) would prefer a PS4 port.

When CCP leaves dust completely and abandons it, they will never be welcomed into the consol market again, which is BTW at least 5x larger than the pc market cause millions on top of millions of people play on consol.

I too, make up numbers and statistics on the spot.

What Himiko said.

There are something like 125,000,000 Steam users. That is just ONE venue for PC gamers to network and purchase games. GoG , Green Man Gaming, and others exist too. No idea what their numbers are like.

Compared to current gen console sales... XBONE is around 11mil, PS4 20mil, and WiiU 10mil. Total: 32mil current gen consoles sold. There are roughly 4 PC gamers for every console out there. If a company is looking for the larger market, they want PC.

Lol dude! Tit for tat huh?

Numbers and statistics are never wrong, what may be wrong is the guy who made them.

You are making the same mistake CCP did with the PS3:

"There are over 80 millions PS3s around the world!".

- Consider how many PCs exist.

- Then consider how many people could have signed up a Steam account.

- Now consider how many people could have signed up multiple Steam accounts.

- Now consider this: the vast majority of games played on Steam are Strategy/ manager and MMORPGs with a few highly played FPS (Arma, CS).

- consider that an "online player" for steam, is not a playing player, as you can see here. In other words, Dota 2 alone covers half of the in-game players at its peak.

- Consider that a "much better" shooter right now (Planetside 2 on PC) has more or less the same active players of Dust514 on PS3. This alone should be enough to discourage CCP in porting Dust to PC. And even if there will always be more players on PC due to Eve players playing Dust/Legion, it would even be counterproductive for CCP: people would leave a subscription based game for a free to play.

Let's take a popular FPS and make a comparison:

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

- PC sales 0.33 mln
- PS4 sales 6.44 mln
- Xbox one sales 4.35 mln
- PS3 sales 3.84 mln
- Xbox 360 sales 3.71

you could make a prevision of an hypothetical next-gen only COD by simply adding old gen + current gen so that:

PS4 = 10,28
Xbox One = 8,06

This guy gets it. FPSs are meant for consoles not pc.

PS4 was specifically built for gaming, PC isn't

PS4 is a x86 system (PC) with pretty lackluster hardware. :)

What consoles are GOOD for, is pushing close to the metal APIs to the PC platform, which push for more CPU<->GPU multithreading in games. When DX12 and Vulkan comes out, PCs will be "optimized for gaming" just as much as a console is. But PCs will also be cheaper (or better performing per $), have bigger game libraries, can be used for other things than just gaming, better screens with high update rates and G-sync, vast array of inputs with mouse and keyboard, controller, joysticks or other. Superior in VR because: powerful GPUs. No fees to play online. Cheaper games in general (although potential larger cost at the start)

I can continue all day, but you kind of get the point: You cannot win the argument that next gen consoles are now a dumbed down/gimped x86 PC that costs more in the long term than a PC.

I'm ready for Dust on PC =ƒÿë