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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.09 12:07:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?
If this ip moves to pc it better have a crapton more depth than dust offers. And dont mention Legion that was just a reskin of dust. Give me a full on mmo shooter without rounds with pve and pvp components. Thats right those devs need to be working on a shooter component for eve on pc with station and planet environments that can be joined by players on a ps4.
Not asking alot am i? Lol
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Fluffy Exterminatus
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
25
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Posted - 2015.05.09 13:21:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?
LOL Hasnt anyone mentioned Project Legion or was the Rougue Wedding before your time?
That being said 90% of people would still play it and PS4 aready behind PCs so not worth betting on
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David Spd
Caldari State
196
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Posted - 2015.05.09 18:27:00 -
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Lot of people posting here seem to be ignorant of the fact there's already a PC version in the works.
It's called Legion. Derp.
--> I'm a closed beta vet; I just don't post often <--
"Other people just complicate my life." ~Solid Snake
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn
3163
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Posted - 2015.05.09 21:01:00 -
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David Spd wrote:Lot of people posting here seem to be ignorant of the fact there's already a PC version in the works.
It's called Legion. Derp.
I'll just leave this here...
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2786
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Posted - 2015.05.10 21:13:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? Wink wink, hint hint, nudge nudge, stab stab
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. RUST415
796
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Posted - 2015.05.10 21:18:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?
AIM Bots!!!
No AIM Bots please... Already bad enough it's slightly possible on the PS3, The PC anyone can do it.
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
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Weary Guy
12
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Posted - 2015.05.11 09:08:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?
dat loss in playerbase dat aimbots PS4 was specifically built for gaming, PC isn't PC aimbot more PC aimbot
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8597
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Posted - 2015.05.11 10:06:00 -
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Weary Guy wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? dat loss in playerbase dat aimbots PS4 was specifically built for gaming, PC isn't PC aimbot more PC aimbot
Aimbots can be dealt with.
Easily, in fact.
There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5899
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Posted - 2015.05.11 10:13:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Weary Guy wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? dat loss in playerbase dat aimbots PS4 was specifically built for gaming, PC isn't PC aimbot more PC aimbot Aimbots can be dealt with. Easily, in fact.
And yet people still run into them every day in Counter-Strike, even at a professional level, despite the fact that CS:GO costs money and getting banned has monetary implications.
You actually think CCP has the GM manpower to constantly monitor and ban accounts on a free to play game with any kind of effective speed? Naive.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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Weary Guy
12
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Posted - 2015.05.11 10:20:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Weary Guy wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? dat loss in playerbase dat aimbots PS4 was specifically built for gaming, PC isn't PC aimbot more PC aimbot Aimbots can be dealt with. Easily, in fact. And yet people still run into them every day in Counter-Strike, even at a professional level, despite the fact that CS:GO costs money and getting banned has monetary implications. You actually think CCP has the GM manpower to constantly monitor and ban accounts on a free to play game with any kind of effective speed? Naive.
Im with *scrolls up to read name* himiko on this one
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
635
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Posted - 2015.05.11 10:34:00 -
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Weary Guy wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? dat loss in playerbase PS4 was specifically built for gaming, PC isn't
Dude stop it. Dust wouldn't lose its playerbase, it would just lose the small group of console guys. And consoles are simplified game boxes so the consumer doesn't have to worry about if such n such game can run on their setup. Or without worrying about upgrading their system.
Bro did you even MS-DOS Wolfenstein?
Saying what's on people's minds
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Weary Guy
13
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Posted - 2015.05.11 10:58:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Weary Guy wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? dat loss in playerbase PS4 was specifically built for gaming, PC isn't Dude stop it. Dust wouldn't lose its playerbase, it would just lose the small group of console guys. And consoles are simplified game boxes so the consumer doesn't have to worry about if such n such game can run on their setup. Or without worrying about upgrading their system. Bro did you even MS-DOS Wolfenstein?
how would dust compete against the vast majority of PC games out there.
Dust has been around playstation's store for a long time...in PC it would just be another new game and nothing more
PC isn't the master race, and i don't know what makes you think we would buy a PC just to play Dust. PS4, much more likely to happen.
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G Clone
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2015.05.11 11:12:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:The design decision to make this game on PS3 is questionable indeed. Developing a multiplayer game on a platform with lacking CPU (not GPU) performance is probably causing the game to bottleneck heavily. Just google "BF4 multiplayer CPU" and you will understand what I mean. Same bottleneck will apply to a PS4 port probably.
When will we see a PC beta of Dust 514? I know I am ready, are you?! The projected value of the gaming-software market for 2016 is, depending on where you look, between 2.5x and 10x more on consoles than on PC.
CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? I'm guessing investors and shareholders? |
BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
870
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Posted - 2015.05.11 11:22:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?
Eve : Legion confirmed in 2016 !
YOU TUBEZ
BLOGZ
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The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels
204
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Posted - 2015.05.11 12:40:00 -
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yea Battlefailed 4 was a ps4 release watered down for ps3 at the end of Sony's AAA ps3 releases. Dust is older than that, look at games released during Dust 514 on ps3, where are they now? Dust is already moving to the PC soon, the only problem with console release is how long the console lasts. If it was me personally i'd build a CCP console that only has New Eden games. Call it the Gate or Gateway or something or other
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
635
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Posted - 2015.05.11 12:46:00 -
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Weary Guy wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Weary Guy wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? dat loss in playerbase PS4 was specifically built for gaming, PC isn't Dude stop it. Dust wouldn't lose its playerbase, it would just lose the small group of console guys. And consoles are simplified game boxes so the consumer doesn't have to worry about if such n such game can run on their setup. Or without worrying about upgrading their system. Bro did you even MS-DOS Wolfenstein? how would dust compete against the vast majority of PC games out there. Dust has been around playstation's store for a long time...in PC it would just be another new game and nothing more PC isn't the master race, and i don't know what makes you think we would buy a PC just to play Dust. PS4, much more likely to happen.
Dude this is going to sound insensitive but I could care less if console players decide to buy a PC or not. The same as I don't care if you buy an X1 over PS4. I know plenty of EVE players and Dust players would go PC. I'm willing to bet there are a lot more PC guys who bought a PS3 to play Dust than you think.
Master race bro? Dude don't be a 5th grader pimpled face fanboy bro. Dust would be awesome on PC! No limitations, CCP can shoot out patches and updates on the fly(good or bad), and the maps alone would be bad ass!
Don't think selfishly dude. PC is capable to make Dust EXACTLY what we all want. Plus its not expensive to buy a premade gaming rig or not hard to build your own bro.
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The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels
204
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Posted - 2015.05.11 12:57:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Weary Guy wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Weary Guy wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? dat loss in playerbase PS4 was specifically built for gaming, PC isn't Dude stop it. Dust wouldn't lose its playerbase, it would just lose the small group of console guys. And consoles are simplified game boxes so the consumer doesn't have to worry about if such n such game can run on their setup. Or without worrying about upgrading their system. Bro did you even MS-DOS Wolfenstein? how would dust compete against the vast majority of PC games out there. Dust has been around playstation's store for a long time...in PC it would just be another new game and nothing more PC isn't the master race, and i don't know what makes you think we would buy a PC just to play Dust. PS4, much more likely to happen. Dude this is going to sound insensitive but I could care less if console players decide to buy a PC or not. The same as I don't care if you buy an X1 over PS4. I know plenty of EVE players and Dust players would go PC. I'm willing to bet there are a lot more PC guys who bought a PS3 to play Dust than you think. Master race bro? Dude don't be a 5th grader pimpled face fanboy bro. Dust would be awesome on PC! No limitations, CCP can shoot out patches and updates on the fly(good or bad), and the maps alone would be bad ass! Don't think selfishly dude. PC is capable to make Dust EXACTLY what we all want. Plus its not expensive to buy a premade gaming rig or not hard to build your own bro.
If an EvE pilot starts playing Dust on PC then he/she is no longer playing EvE, i would buy a PC too play Dust as i did to play EvE but I would rather see Legion on the ps4.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
636
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Posted - 2015.05.11 13:02:00 -
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Lol dude! Tit for tat huh?
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The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels
205
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Posted - 2015.05.11 13:16:00 -
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no, just my opinion, to be quite honest i'm more interested in Project Legion, not what it will be released on, when how what why were means sweet FA to me. I'm happy knowing Devs are working on a now gen version and it's coming soon, i'm happy that the people working on it have had 2 years of trial and error, player feedback and ideas to recreate Dust as Project Legion. PC, Console? seriously i dont care, either way i can kill players which i really do love doing. Then only thing i would really really want is MLEX, so players are charged for playing or a Pass like GRPhantoms has.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
2076
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Posted - 2015.05.11 13:30:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote: No limitations, CCP can shoot out patches and updates on the fly(good or bad), and the maps alone would be bad ass!. those "patching limitations" got lifted like a year ago
Spectral Clone wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs? AMD A10 6800k Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2 HyperX 1600 8GB RAM Cheap, but proud of it because I built it myself. At least the APU is clocked at 4Ghz. That PC will probably beat ps4 in performance, when DX12 is released (in DX12-compatible games at least).
unfortunately it wont. the ps4s gpu is compareable to a GTX 580/660/660Ti in terms of power and consumes half of the watts your PC does at load. beside that, directx12 is child play compared to the low level API the ps4 offers, it is just that only ps4 exclusive studios use it cause it is much easier and cheaper to water down a crossplattform game while using the high level API instead of optimize it for the low level API. |
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn
3172
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Posted - 2015.05.11 13:32:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:
Dude this is going to sound insensitive but I could care less if console players decide to buy a PC or not. The same as I don't care if you buy an X1 over PS4. I know plenty of EVE players and Dust players would go PC. I'm willing to bet there are a lot more PC guys who bought a PS3 to play Dust than you think.
Master race bro? Dude don't be a 5th grader pimpled face fanboy bro. Dust would be awesome on PC! No limitations, CCP can shoot out patches and updates on the fly(good or bad), and the maps alone would be bad ass!
Don't think selfishly dude. PC is capable to make Dust EXACTLY what we all want. Plus its not expensive to buy a premade gaming rig or not hard to build your own bro.
Indeed there have been people who did that. Still, it's an irrelevant number compared to those who never even heard of Eve before.
Dust has been literally flooded by former-MAG players that moved in stack: entire corporations, clans, groups of people. They also gradually left, but that's another story.
I don't know exactly what happened with other communities, but for what concern big EU communities there's usually an Eve player playing Dust every 100 players.
GAC had like more than 1000 players, but still only had 5-6 Eve players / former eve players. In my corp, with over 500 players, we had 2 not-so-active Eve players, and it's more or less the same with all the other corps I know.
It's not that PC can handle what you, we want Dust to be while consoles can't. Actually, consoles can handle whatever Dust wants to be: as I said before, I'm pretty sure a ps4 could smoothly handle Eve at High settings.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5901
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Posted - 2015.05.11 13:34:00 -
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CCP will never utilize the power of a PC even in this fantasy world where Legion actually becomes a thing.
The fact of the matter is that CCP has a policy of sitting on their thumbs and refusing to use new technology in order to cater to people who refuse to upgrade. EVE graphical effects have suffered for years due to this policy of neglect.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
637
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Posted - 2015.05.11 14:35:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:
Dude this is going to sound insensitive but I could care less if console players decide to buy a PC or not. The same as I don't care if you buy an X1 over PS4. I know plenty of EVE players and Dust players would go PC. I'm willing to bet there are a lot more PC guys who bought a PS3 to play Dust than you think.
Master race bro? Dude don't be a 5th grader pimpled face fanboy bro. Dust would be awesome on PC! No limitations, CCP can shoot out patches and updates on the fly(good or bad), and the maps alone would be bad ass!
Don't think selfishly dude. PC is capable to make Dust EXACTLY what we all want. Plus its not expensive to buy a premade gaming rig or not hard to build your own bro.
Indeed there have been people who did that. Still, it's an irrelevant number compared to those who never even heard of Eve before. Dust has been literally flooded by former-MAG players that moved in stack: entire corporations, clans, groups of people. They also gradually left, but that's another story. I don't know exactly what happened with other communities, but for what concern big EU communities there's usually an Eve player playing Dust every 100 players. GAC had like more than 1000 players, but still only had 5-6 Eve players / former eve players. In my corp, with over 500 players, we had 2 not-so-active Eve players, and it's more or less the same with all the other corps I know. It's not that PC can handle what you, we want Dust to be while consoles can't. Actually, consoles can handle whatever Dust wants to be: as I said before, I'm pretty sure a ps4 could smoothly handle Eve at High settings.
So bro, basically all I hear is that the playerbase would be even less because the beloved small console playerbase is the lifeblood of this game. That's ridiculous dude. CCP announcing that Dust was coming to console was heartbreaking to a larger, dedicated playerbase who were anticipating a PC release.
Dude why argue over bullet points when the blatant truth is that Dust would look and play better on PC?? Why, as a gamer and professed fan of Dust, do you want to keep it limited? Dude I don't understand that.
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The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels
206
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Posted - 2015.05.11 16:00:00 -
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actually dude bro, Dust would be a billion times better on PS4, XB1 and PC, fact of the matter IT IS BEING RELEASED ON PC so really your arguing for something thats already happening.
You want to really make this game epic release it on the WII plus.
(warning my statement may contain lies)
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. RUST415
1143
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Posted - 2015.05.11 16:43:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?
Well it's not like I've been buying AUR for the last long stretch because of a variety of decisions that CCP has made, but a PC port constitutes an abandonment of the current player base. It was the same way with Legion. Sure, it can be done, but don't expect people to be pleased.
Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10010
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Posted - 2015.05.11 16:46:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:current player base Which is, what, 2k active players now? Develop PC, put Legion on Steam, and you will make those players back on launch day twice over and then some.
This isn't chess, it is checkers. PC all the way.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn
3173
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Posted - 2015.05.11 16:52:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:
So bro, basically all I hear is that the playerbase would be even less because the beloved small console playerbase is the lifeblood of this game. That's ridiculous dude. CCP announcing that Dust was coming to console was heartbreaking to a larger, dedicated playerbase who were anticipating a PC release.
Dude why argue over bullet points when the blatant truth is that Dust would look and play better on PC?? Why, as a gamer and professed fan of Dust, do you want to keep it limited? Dude I don't understand that.
It's clear that Dust *could* be infinite times better on PC (and, actually you may want to take into account what kind of PC).
Still, talking as someone that doesn't want to see this game fails again, I'd say it is better to continue with Sony rather than move to PC and the reasons are multiple:
- The actual community is mostly formed by console gamers: most of them wouldn't play on PC because of their own choice, otherwise they wouldn't be playing this game on PS3.
- The F2P market on PC is simply saturated. If I'd wanted to, I could find dozens of F2P FPS on PC. Rattati may argue that Dust is different which is in part true, but this doesn't change one of the most important things in games: the fun factor. Different is not necessarily better.
- They already have a well-enstablished game on PC which may act as a self-competitor for Dust/Legion.
- The nature of Dust/Legion is competitive. It actually is better a console over a PC: everyone runs the same hardware, the same specs, the same game. There's nothing you could do to dramatically increase your personal performance, hence, it is much fairer.
- On the other hand, both Microsoft and Sony are trying to let their consoles be more and more accessible for indies and in general, much more dev-friendly. This means, for example, much shorter QA periods (which is actually 3 days for Sony)
- The closed nature of consoles also has its advantage points: you only have to develop on a specific hardware, meaning you know the specs of all the people playing your game, meaning you can both squeeze the system and optimize better.
Although if you have an uber-PC you'd have a photorealistic graphic at 60fps in Dust, it would be useless because it's going to be you and another hundred people who would eventually get bored sooner or later or you'd have to massively tune down your settings at "Dust 514" Level.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn
3173
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Posted - 2015.05.11 16:54:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:current player base Which is, what, 2k active players now? Develop PC, put Legion on Steam, and you will make those players back on launch day twice over and then some. This isn't chess, it is checkers. PC all the way.
Not really, I mean, how many people left? I alone know 2k people that stopped playing, and it's certainly a much higher number. It may still be considered "Dust 514" community because I'm fairly sure that all of them would at least try the "second version".
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels
207
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Posted - 2015.05.11 16:55:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:current player base Which is, what, 2k active players now? Develop PC, put Legion on Steam, and you will make those players back on launch day twice over and then some. This isn't chess, it is checkers. PC all the way.
Before you do that go to the forums for the top ten shooter featured on steam, you think you have trolls now? i'd rather play against myself than half of 'them'
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10010
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Posted - 2015.05.11 17:02:00 -
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The Lion ElJonson wrote:Before you do that go to the forums for the top ten shooter featured on steam, you think you have trolls now? i'd rather play against myself than half of 'them' The only reason we don't have more trolls here is because the playerbase is microscopic. Any game, no matter how good, that has reasonable player population will have trolls, morons, and mouth-breathing twits. That's just online gaming, homie.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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