In a perfect world, we would see the next gen EVE FPS being developed in DirectX 12/Vulkan API. That would enable HUGE fights in multiplayer, like 1000 vs 1000 players.

EVE is an obvious game that would benefit greatly from DX12 as well, I hope CCP are already exploring that route. ;)

Assuming we have the player base for such fights. It would be embarrassing to be able to have 1k v 1k fights, and only have a total of like 500 show up. :/

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?

One interesting thing about Dust is that it's basically an early access game.
A living Alpha where the community plays and helps build the experiance.
While this is an asset for the final game, we should acknowledge doing a classical launch of something unfinished would be a disaster (something we've already done once ).

I think the ideal business path for Dust would be to go to PC; let it cook over there a year or so while the bunnies play it and advise while the missing features/content get put in. Then port the full game over to PS4 when we know we can make a splash.

As a case study, a lot of the launch woes of Planetside 2 were absorbed during the PC launch, so when it finally made its way to PS4 it was in an excellent shape and has had a pretty solid launch.

PC crowds are very aware and accepting of early access; I suspect the same isn't true for the PS4 community.

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?

AMD A10 6800k
Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2
HyperX 1600 8GB RAM

Cheap, but proud of it because I built it myself. At least the APU is clocked at 4Ghz.

While the PS4's CPU isn't top dog, it's far from not being able to handle whatever CCP throws at it within the vision they've shown.

Planetside 2 is well known for being a very CPU heavy game and yet it's being ported to PS4. I've played that version and it runs very very well.


The biggest limitation with the PS3 is actually the memory. 512MB is just lol by today's standards.
The PS4 on the other hand has 8GB of GDDR5 memory, very fast memory usually used for GPU's.

The fact that moving the game off of the PSN effectively removes it from many of the people who play it right now who aren't PC gamers.

The stated intent of this game back in 2009 was to bring console players into New Eden and allow both PC and Console gamers to cooperate in the same universe. I think that's one of the best facets of this game, and moving it to PC would just be a cop-out.

I more than support a platform upgrade, but I think that should be on the PS4 in recognition of all of us who have made Dust profitable on PS3 right now. I think we have "proven ourselves worthy" of being heavily considered in terms of the next platform Dust moves to.

And I"m not saying that in terms of money spent. We've done a lot of things in this game as it is right now, made a lot of neat stories to tell. We've seen Corporations rise and fall, some of them clans that came over from other games.

Some of those clans have even stuck around after 2014's FanFest, and some are even coming back now that CCP Rattati is at the helm.

I want this world to stay in the hands of the players who helped make it what it is right now, and where it is is a MUCH better place than it was 8 months ago. Much of that is owed to the decision to give Dust to Rattati, but some of the credit also goes to all of us who stuck around, all the people who are coming back, and all the new people that braved the Academy and the first couple stomps and have put the effort in to learn how to play the game.

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?

How many people have a PS3 and PC? do we have those figures? because till we do this is a dumb point.

moving it to PC would be a cop out? Dust never became what it was suppose to be due to the limitations of the console. just look at the trailer for dust 514 again. what were playing is not what's in that trailer.

look at it this way. if they made legion on PC and dust 514 port to PS4 what game would be better and attract a larger audience?

theres no question. PC would lead to a better game, PC would be updated allmost every day. PC would have a stronger link to EVE. and i mean this is an actual practical sense. linking the 2 games would be simple. they made a mistake with the console once. why would they do it again?

*Raises hand*

I do not want to see how fast Scotty can screw it all up............

Consoles are SOOOO much easier to program for, that it's almost not even funny.

First thing you have to realize, is that consoles have a locked down environment, meaning... cheating is much easier to detect, because anything outside of the norm is instantly flagable.

On a PC, however, there can be background programs that cause slight unintended interference, so searching for deviation of the norm is not as clear cut.
Not to mention that when using a PC, you now have access to tools that can show you where the server for your game is. This basically means that someone could find the server and disrupt communications to it, possibly slowing down connections to and from, or even finding specific people connected to said server and just punking them down when targeted.

You also have to program to be compatible with multiple types of computer cores single, double, quad, etc... then, single and multi-threading, then choose which demographic will be left out of what features, potentially forcing some groups to have to use lower quality graphics in order to keep speed up.
This also must be done with the graphics cards.
While the core programming usually works fine across all systems, if there is a performance issue such as (for example) a certain type of card causes massive tearing when running your specialized events, then you have to launch a very specific patch to assist that card with proper rendering... unless it's in such a minority that you just don't care..

On a console, the graphics don't have to be incredibly advanced, because people know "it's a console". While on the PC, you have to hyper-diagram the upper end of all textures so that the eyeball huggers (who don't play the game well BTW cause they're staring at everything) can have their pretty princess moments and proclaim about the graphics etc.

PC also have to be worried about data forgery hacks etc. while consoles don't really, because the normality system usually catches such things.
PC's also have to have their own cheat detection system based around what they have in the game, and how the items are naturally used.... this means you can copy some other shooter's anti-cheat code for the core, but you still need to make your own checks for everything unique that you add to your game.


Now.... lets's look at the Developer pool...
How many people are there? And if Consoles are faster and simpler to program for, how long will a patch or update on the PC take?

What staff can they afford to watch the anti-cheat programming as it works to determine if a new hack was created, or if it's junk data?

Eve is on pc and it's going smoothly compared to dust which is on a console and is barely even alive at this point. Say what you want,explain what you must but you can not deny CCP is better at programming and developing on the PC compared to consoles. And in games I have played where there is a PC and console version it is the PC version who gets updated first. One example is warframe. To say that consoles are much easier for the devs to develop games on is just plain ignorance. How many indie games out there are on the PC rather than on consoles?

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?

That PC will probably beat ps4 in performance, when DX12 is released (in DX12-compatible games at least).

Planetside 2 is single core CPU heavy, it is not well multithreaded.

....No.

DX12 won't do any miracles, that APU doesn't even approach the graphical power that the PS4 has.

I agree heavily on this even though I don't mind Dust being ported over to the PC either. If the game could do both the PC and the PS4 that would fantastic, but we all know that is wishful thinking.

I understand now why going to the PS4 is important for Dust. A lot of players here have invested a lot in this game in the PS3. Many of which originated from the MAG community which shutdown some time ago so they flocked to Dust because it was the closest thing to MAG they could find. It was easy for them to move over to Dust because they already had a PSN account established. If Dust moves over to the PS4, all the better for the same reason only this time they can also carry their progress in Dust from the PS3 to the PS4 without a problem because the data on the characters they have is stored and managed within CCP's servers.

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?

still cant believe some ppl dont own a pc.

it's 2015 c'mon, ask around someone will give u an old pc.

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?

Who wouldn't want to see DUST on another platform, with multi-threaded processors, 10x memory, GPU's that exceed CPU performance, fast HDs?