They look just like the pictures. Maybe ask Jadek to put up a catwalk for you?

LAVGÇÖs have been given additional fitting capacity and an extra slot to reward dedicated LAV drivers

From the notes: Shield Hardener Recharge (seconds) decreased10060

In game, this is only applied to the basic hardener, resulting in the Basic Shield Hardener being superior to all other Shield Hardeners, since: it has the same uptime; same resistance; cheaper fitting costs; and cheaper ISK costs.

If this change was intended to bring Shield Hardeners into line with Armour Hardeners, with Shields having a faster cooldown, then the numbers should be:
Basic: 60s (45s max skills)
Advanced: 48s (36s max skills)
Complex: 36s (27s max skills)

This would have the effect that sHardeners are faster to end, but faster to regenerate. Is that the intention?

Yes, armor is slow and long, shields are more nimble hit and run

Serious bummer!!! I skilled into Hand to Hand prior to the jumping expressly for the Melee increase and I use four Myos on my Proto MinAssault so I can effectively punch suckas +50... The jumping was added and, well, I had some good fun with that too but really I would have preferred for melee and jumping to be broken out from one another... Now with this limitation of three Myos meleeing is going to be considerably more difficult... Melee is one of the most satisfying kills for me- this makes me ...

Please consider moving jumping to another module or equipment that can be charged for the desired jump height in order to limit jumping to your intended effect...

SoGǪ from what I understand, shields are supposed to be fast, hit-and-run, higher damage, lower defense (but high repair) while armor is the slower, tanker, for "siege" type engagements (long and drawn out).

But, at least for tanks, that seems to be the near opposite:

• Armor tanks are natively faster, which I guess is supposed to offset the penalty for plates, except that penalty gets nearly removed thanks to the armor comp. skill.


• Armor tanks aren't even fitting plates and instead are fitting mainly repairers, followed by hardeners, and nitros. This not only goes back to the above problem, but makes armor tanks repair far more quickly than shields ever could (even before the nerf), as well as being able to repair +200hp/s with no delay through damage. Armor has become the burst tankers and shields the buffer.

I think a fitting increase to heavy repairers in order, as well as an increase in cycle time (from 1s to 3s probably; proto would go from 120r/s to 360r/3s). Perhaps even an increase in rep rate to offset the nerfs a little.

Any big changes to fitting to fix HAV problems, hits Dropships harder.

Any big changes to fitting to fix HAV problems, hits Dropships harder.

SoGǪ from what I understand, shields are supposed to be fast, hit-and-run, higher damage, lower defense (but high repair) while armor is the slower, tanker, for "siege" type engagements (long and drawn out).

But, at least for tanks, that seems to be the near opposite:

• Armor tanks are natively faster, which I guess is supposed to offset the penalty for plates, except that penalty gets nearly removed thanks to the armor comp. skill.


• Armor tanks aren't even fitting plates and instead are fitting mainly repairers, followed by hardeners, and nitros. This not only goes back to the above problem, but makes armor tanks repair far more quickly than shields ever could (even before the nerf), as well as being able to repair +200hp/s with no delay through damage. Armor has become the burst tankers and shields the buffer.

I think a fitting increase to heavy repairers in order, as well as an increase in cycle time (from 1s to 3s probably; proto would go from 120r/s to 360r/3s). Perhaps even an increase in rep rate to offset the nerfs a little.

Dear players,

This patch is simply meant to address Echo and Warlords 1.1 issues.

As the plan was always to allow APEX users to use SKINs, we have gone ahead and tailored each APEX loadout to exactly the fitting capacity it needs with the current items and skills and unlocked them for editing. All slots will be mandatory so it will not possible to remove all items and fit advanced and prototype weapons or gear. We will be monitoring the situation on APEX suits over the following weeks.

This will allow players to do the following commonly requested things to APEX loadouts
* Rearrange equipment, very necessary for logistics players
* Swap SKINs, especially sought after by owners of LP APEXGÇÖs, especially with upcoming Marine Issue SKINs
* Customize by swapping a similar item based on preferred playstyle, Rail Rifle from an Assault Rail Rifle, etc.
* Rename them so they are aligned with the playerGÇÖs existing loadouts

APEX loadouts have been moved to a separate category under Loadouts in the Marketplace as Visual Customization will be through SKINs after Warlords 1.1.

To counter any PG/CPU mod shenanigans we have used the opportunity to make a change we have wanted for a long time. We are moving PG mods to high slots and adding a CPU cost to them, this will make them more useful as they donGÇÖt occupy the PG heavy low slot anymore. We are also adding a PG fitting cost to CPU upgrades as they had zero fitting cost before.

As was plainly explained with the Myofibril mods, we wanted to increase the jumping height so that stacking 3 would allow to get on top of the large containers. The plan was for stacking penalties to take care of the rest, as the 4th and 5th module under stacking penalties add incrementally almost zero improvement under normal circumstances. However, the stacking penalty does not work currently, and we havenGÇÖt found the cause. Until the cause has been found and a fix deployed, we will be limiting Myofibrils to 3 per loadout which is almost the same effect. It was silly fun while it lasted, but, ultimately not the designed intent.

Remote Explosives throwing distance has been reduced, as activation delay settings seem to be bugged. Remote Explosives are designed to be placeables, or traps in essence, not super-grenades. Packed Remote Explosives should be the go to Anti-Vehicle Explosive, with an increased throw distance at the cost of damage radius. Packed RE users should be mindful that they need to be thrown at the center mass of vehicles due to the smaller radius of the explosion and throwing at the front tracks of HAVGÇÖs, for example, may not be enough.

Other Fixes
Experimental Assault Combat Rifle now has the proper Experimental stats, 3% increased damage, 25% faster reload and 10% higher clip and ammo capacity.

LAVGÇÖs have been given additional fitting capacity and an extra slot to reward dedicated LAV drivers whereas SHAVs no longer have pre-fitted Small Turrets as intended.

A number of smaller tweaks to Small Blasters, Assault Heavy Machine Guns, Vehicle Modules, Infantry Equipment, Vehicle Turrets are detailed here.

I'm still able to fit proto gear on my apex I just bought,I removed it after I logged back in,i didn't think apex could fit anything as it said they could not be modified, are you remove the ability to fit advanced/proto gear completely?I don't understand?

I thinnk the point is that you could not go all proto, or leave a slot empty to give the PG/CPU needed.

how about unlocking every thing for the apex but they can only use the fractional stuff ...seems legit right ? might need a few tweaks...but seems legit think about it

@ Rattati, are packed remotes really working? or did you just remove killing tanks with remotes?

Oh yeah.. pics or didn't happen ;)