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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9774
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:49:00 -
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$10 for a skin that only works on (race)(suit size)? I dunno man, might as well just buy a BPO and get the added benefit of never having to spend ISK on it again.
Although, I guess if it works for all power-levels it works out... But, eeesh. Scouts especially get boned because they only get the one role for their suit size. Should lower the price on those at the very least, imo, from a value stand-point.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
16231
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:50:00 -
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Or lower it to 5 dollars MAX because requesting 10 dollars for a skin is rather absurd.
I could justify it before when it was the added benefit of a BPO suit, but not anymore.
Ripley: "I sexually identify as a cappuccino machine."
Cat: "That's my fetish"
Ripley: Steams milk seductively
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
5431
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:51:00 -
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They're 20k?
I thought they were going to be 10k? ($5)
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:51:00 -
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What did you really expect?
Thor's Emporium
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9774
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:52:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:They're 20k?
I thought they were going to be 10k? ($5)
19,800 AURUM, so yeah.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1751
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:52:00 -
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To be fair.. I.. I got nothing here. Nothing has ever really been priced well in this game (looking at you keys). I just wanted to comment on something as I haven't said anything in three months and miss the forum game.
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
16231
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:53:00 -
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thor424 wrote:What did you really expect? Fair pricing that would make me happy to spend $, rather than make me put off from the very idea?
I came fully expecting to drop 15 bucks and get a few SKINs, but dat price tag man.
Ripley: "I sexually identify as a cappuccino machine."
Cat: "That's my fetish"
Ripley: Steams milk seductively
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4524
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:56:00 -
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They seem to not understand the easy concept of keeping a lower price to sell more stuff. Especially estetic stuff.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:57:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:thor424 wrote:What did you really expect? Fair pricing that would make me happy to spend $, rather than make me put off from the very idea? I came fully expecting to drop 15 bucks and get a few SKINs, but dat price tag man.
You are better off buying keys, which I think may be the theory behind it.
Thor's Emporium
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ROTFL
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:58:00 -
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wow..... seriously? Your playing a FREE game! Servers are expensive to maintain! Your worse then the rioters in Maryland.. Ill be buying atleast 1 as a sign of gratitude for the update. Crying on forum make you look like a cheap basturd who wants everything for free....
Knowing is half the battle! The other half involves guns! GI JOE!
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9776
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:00:00 -
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ROTFL wrote:wow..... seriously? Your playing a FREE game! Servers are expensive to maintain! Your worse then the rioters in Maryland.. Ill be buying atleast 1 as a sign of gratitude for the update. Crying on forum make you look like a cheap basturd who wants everything for free....
Mhmm. Totally not why I bought one and all (money is of no consequence for me) but yanno, keep on telling yourself that, broseph.
Or you could be like everyone else before you and recognize that the value isn't as great as a full-fledged BPO and the price should reasonably be cheaper because it is, after all, a -cosmetic- and not a functional piece of equipment.
And please don't chalk up something as serious as the Baltimore riots as this... It's ******* disgusting.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1751
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:03:00 -
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ROTFL wrote:wow..... seriously? Your playing a FREE game! Servers are expensive to maintain! Your worse then the rioters in Maryland.. Ill be buying atleast 1 as a sign of gratitude for the update. Crying on forum make you look like a cheap basturd who wants everything for free....
F2P, yea, sure, still doesn't mean you charge a decent chunk of change for something just because you can.. There is value in lower price items when it comes to customization.. If they were in the 5 buck range I would have bought a few for my Minmatar suits, but 1 for $10 is too steep, especially when they are as limited as the skins we have are. If you wanted to pimp out every suit for a race, it'd cost $30, which is kinda crazy..
Loyalty and stupidity are so very close to one another on the spectrum..
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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Anaheim Darko
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
365
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:04:00 -
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Pricing it the same as a Sever/Raven suit is a little steep IMHO, for something purely cosmetic. i'll probably invest in 1, but might have bought 3 if they were around the 10k mark.
Caldari Assault ck.0.
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
16232
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:04:00 -
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ROTFL wrote:wow..... seriously? Your playing a FREE game! Servers are expensive to maintain! Your worse then the rioters in Maryland.. Ill be buying atleast 1 as a sign of gratitude for the update. Crying on forum make you look like a cheap basturd who wants everything for free.... http://i.lvme.me/v8ccqht.jpg
Ripley: "I sexually identify as a cappuccino machine."
Cat: "That's my fetish"
Ripley: Steams milk seductively
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
2371
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:06:00 -
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Jeez hero of the storm dont even charge that much for skins. And thats blizzard!
I want to be a caveman!
psn: marko_blues
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
2375
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:11:00 -
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ROTFL wrote:wow..... seriously? Your playing a FREE game! Servers are expensive to maintain! Your worse then the rioters in Maryland.. Ill be buying atleast 1 as a sign of gratitude for the update. Crying on forum make you look like a cheap basturd who wants everything for free....
finished?
I want to be a caveman!
psn: marko_blues
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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IVIaster LUKE
Art.of.Death
807
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:13:00 -
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I'm not really impressed by this Summer's Faux pas of 'Skins' .
Not for $10 anyway.
I'll wait for CCP's 'House Of Style' 2015 Fall Collection. Hopefully better pickings.
This is it.........WHAT!.........Luchini poring from the sky!
Sipping Amah....red....da! =ƒì+G£în+Å
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ZiwZih
Seraphim Initiative..
394
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:15:00 -
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How they look at all, pressing 'V' in-game doesn't show them up, like other items/suits...
FREJMO++ENIME~~
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Kierkegaard Soren
Eridani Light Horse Battalion
784
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:19:00 -
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For the price of two skins I could buy Bloodborne. Uh, yeah, no.
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
270
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:22:00 -
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If existing bpos (22,000) will be converted to skin plus bpo - does it mean a non skinned? bpo will now cost 3,000? |
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9780
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:24:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:ROTFL wrote:wow..... seriously? Your playing a FREE game! Servers are expensive to maintain! Your worse then the rioters in Maryland.. Ill be buying atleast 1 as a sign of gratitude for the update. Crying on forum make you look like a cheap basturd who wants everything for free.... F2P, yea, sure, still doesn't mean you charge a decent chunk of change for something just because you can.. There is value in lower price items when it comes to customization.. If they were in the 5 buck range I would have bought a few for my Minmatar suits, but 1 for $10 is too steep, especially when they are as limited as the skins we have are. If you wanted to pimp out every suit for a race, it'd cost $30, which is kinda crazy.. Loyalty and stupidity are so very close to one another on the spectrum..
Well, technically it's more like $120 because the skin only applies to a single race and single suit size.
Soooo you'd need to get one skin for:
Amarr Heavy Amarr Medium Amarr Light Caldari Heavy Caldari Medium Caldari Light Gallente Heavy Gallente Medium Gallente Light Minmatar Heavy Minmatar Medium Minmatar Light
Like, for a cosmetic? That's insane, lol. It'd be worth it if it applied to -ALL- suit sizes but just one? Pssh, way too steep.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
21259
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:25:00 -
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I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9780
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:27:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity.
So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function.
If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
21259
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer
So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
570
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:32:00 -
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Pokey's said this before but if the skins were cheap like, $2 cheap, then i'd actually end up spending more on Dust.
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9781
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:33:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see.
Well, he's not exactly making a fashion statement with the other two Dren's Assault Rifle is he O.o?
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Slave of MORTE
420
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:35:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer I bought mine for function
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Slave of MORTE
420
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:36:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see. I got quafe from strong boxes ide never have bought them ..especially if I already had a bpo for that ...point is your only appealing to a fraction of your player base ..The vanity ***** ..
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Brush Master
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
1523
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:38:00 -
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I would agree that the pricing is too high for me to even consider it. Personally I would reduce skin prices over time, so as you make a new one it is xx price as the new and shiny price but those in the market a while go down. Also do weekly 50% off skin sales, it works.
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
@dustreports
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9781
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:39:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:I would agree that the pricing is too high for me to even consider it. Personally I would reduce skin prices over time, so as you make a new one it is xx price as the new and shiny price but those in the market a while go down. Also do weekly 50% off skin sales, it works.
I guess this a good idea, kinda what LoL does.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Slave of MORTE
421
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:39:00 -
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I was ready to drop 50 bucks in dust this morning of course I thought ide have 10 skins out of that ..puts my card away and pretends you never got me to pull it out
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Slave of MORTE
421
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:40:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Brush Master wrote:I would agree that the pricing is too high for me to even consider it. Personally I would reduce skin prices over time, so as you make a new one it is xx price as the new and shiny price but those in the market a while go down. Also do weekly 50% off skin sales, it works. I guess this a good idea, kinda what LoL does. I wouldnt pay more than 5 bucks for a vanity item ..so say overall cost was reduced to 10 bucks ide buy a few ona sale day ..If sale was 50 %..
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9689
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:42:00 -
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I think someone suggested it above... start the SKIN price at $10 then reduce it every couple months. People who want to standout and be the first to own a new SKIN can pay a premium. Others can choose to pay at a price point they are more comfortable with a few months later.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley, you're a fucking artist" - Cat Merc
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DiablosMajora
138
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:43:00 -
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Being the first of their kind, SKINs will come at a premium (viewer is *sorely* needed). A good business decision will be to reduce the prices once a greater variety come out.
That being said, I currently have no intention on buying them right now. But, as has been echoed in this thread, doing SKIN sale rotations for x% off isn't a shabby idea.
Prepare your angus
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
757
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:57:00 -
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I have a bunch of BPOs for the function, not the fashion. I think it may be useful to make prototype suits look cheap, but I'm going to have to really like a look before I spend money on style. LP SKINs on the other hand...
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
2376
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:05:00 -
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My gripe is this. They are cheaper in lol. They are cheaper in smite They are cheaper in hos They are really really cheap in warframe.
I want to be a caveman!
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Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
1123
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:09:00 -
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I find the skins to be costly, but not way too costly. This is mostly because I'm covered BPO wise, so there isn't any 'function' to sell to me anymore.
The added benefit of being able to skin advanced and pro fittings seems worth the price point. Except that I didn't find any attractive skins that are useful to me. So now I have a bunch of AUR and nothing to do with it. Meh.
Anyhow I think the pricepoint nicely sits where the items will be exclusive enough to stand out to justify the price. I just need to wait until interesting skins come around. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1951
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:36:00 -
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hey relax, it starts high as always. Standard practice in business, you can lower the price later but upping is a bit harder.
This has been the case with basically all AUR stuff (omegas etc). There will be bundles and discounts and maybe even general price drop.
It just makes sense to start with higher price to see if masses buy it.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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DUST Fiend
16709
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:39:00 -
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You filthy infantrymen can get the prices worked out for when vehicle SKINs become a thing....which they damn well better...
"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."
STUFF
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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
4641
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:51:00 -
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10 quid? Meeep no way in hell im going to pay that much for a purely cosmetic item. Lower that to 5 quid and we have a deal.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
450
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:19:00 -
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I've told you people once and I'll say it again. Price low= we will buy a lot. Price high= thehellisgoingon. 1 Wbc at 3 aur each is your best seller, right?
Unless I get them free from a strongbox or salvage 38k. Aur won't be going anywhere. Just a straight money grab. They have no function. Strictly cosmetic. I was ok with that. But why price them so high?
Skin= Stupid. Don't buy them. They will lower the price. Too bad scrubs already did. |
Drogan Reeth
Free Trade Corp
153
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:46:00 -
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As a person who bought 2 apex suits and thought the price of 25$ per suit was OK.
I just want to say that I wouldn't spend more then 2.50$ per skin. It's non functional. I might buy a bunch if they where priced 1$ each. |
ReGnYuM
Carne Con Papas
3684
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:56:00 -
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Why is everything so ******* expensive in this game. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9696
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:57:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Why is everything so ******* expensive in this game. The playerbase is very small. CCP can't count on selling 100,000 of each SKIN so they jack up the cost to generate more income.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley, you're a fucking artist" - Cat Merc
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2207
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:59:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Why is everything so ******* expensive in this game. The playerbase is very small. CCP can't count on selling 100,000 of each SKIN so they jack up the cost to generate more income.
i hate that econ 101 applies so perfectly to this game, because I want to be cheap!
Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
6435
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:07:00 -
[46] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see. I have to agree with this. I don't think there is a good functional explanation for me buying 4 Amarr Sentinels BPO's.
Dren (Yeah, that was a functional purchase) Sever (Fashion) Raven (Fashion) Quafe (Fashion)
And to think, I mostly run Advanced suits now...
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
274
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:07:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see.
My first BPO was for function, then the catch em all bug bit me.
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2709
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:15:00 -
[48] - Quote
I have no problem with the skins or the price, but at that price they're not for me.
I'd rather run no-skin and save up for a PS4.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
353
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:25:00 -
[49] - Quote
It seems this company doesn't learn.. first monaclegate now skingate...
I'd pay a few quid max per skin or maybe a tenner for a pack but the default ones will do me now thanks.
I'm sure ccp will watch what we do rather than what we say though. So do the right thing Mercs.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9696
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:27:00 -
[50] - Quote
Lady MDK wrote:It seems this company doesn't learn.. first monaclegate now skingate... Monocles in Eve were $60, right? Not exactly comparing apples to apples Not that I think SKINs are priced correctly, just sayin'.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley, you're a fucking artist" - Cat Merc
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9794
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
Lady MDK wrote:It seems this company doesn't learn.. first monaclegate now skingate...
I'd pay a few quid max per skin or maybe a tenner for a pack but the default ones will do me now thanks.
I'm sure ccp will watch what we do rather than what we say though. So do the right thing Mercs.
Eh, I bought one because I was excited for the patch but nothing's really changed. Acquisition is kinda broke right now and there's no other new content besides stuff that should have been in the game since day one.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
2865
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:38:00 -
[52] - Quote
noob cavman wrote:My gripe is this. They are cheaper in lol. They are cheaper in smite They are cheaper in hos They are really really cheap in warframe. Its juat an vanity item. And they guys above put entirely new animations into some of there skins. You also get new voice packs in Smite!
Never played League or Dota but I love the skins in Smite.
People find this this review helpful!
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7th Son 7
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
826
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:51:00 -
[53] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer
Function Function Function is most important to me, look does matter but it must be functional first. And will someone tell me where are the Minmatar Heavy Legacy Skins? don't see em. Don't yell at me neither I can't read the Trello board on my phone. Thanks guys.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9821
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:00:00 -
[54] - Quote
Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Why is everything so ******* expensive in this game. The playerbase is very small. CCP can't count on selling 100,000 of each SKIN so they jack up the cost to generate more income. i hate that econ 101 applies so perfectly to this game, because I want to be cheap! Stop being so price elastic!
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game RUST415
563
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:01:00 -
[55] - Quote
DUST AURLords 514 striked again ! ! !
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9821
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:01:00 -
[56] - Quote
And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
21314
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:05:00 -
[57] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same?
And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?!
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Baltazar Pontain
Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
136
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:07:00 -
[58] - Quote
I know that this post will ban me from forum but I think it is worth.
CCP is greedy. Full stop.
For 40$ I get a full game, why should I buy 4 cosmetic skins? That is ridiculous.
On the plus side I have to say that it is at least cosmetic so no one is forced to buy it. BUT
I dont like to stress this saying to much.
You upset people with to high prices. Please tell this your marketing. Even if some people are rich or have parents that pay anything for their children. |
Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3037
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:26:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see. I bought my BPOs for function. I don't see a lot of value in skins personally, but I'm happy you guys are adding them for people who are into it. From my perspective, the prices seem high for an item with less utility and also relative to the pricing on cosmetic items in other games. I wasn't planning on buying skins either way, so either you can take my feedback as unbiased, or disregard it because I'm not planning on buying them. I would be willing to drop some AUR on BPO STD weapons though (but not via the key lottery system).
I just don't want you to make the mistake of conflating the demand for BPOs with demand for skins. I have spent a lot of AUR on BPOs, but I'm not really into cosmetic stuff beyond what I already have. I'm sure you guys will run the numbers and do what's best for the game, so I'm not too worried about this issue. I suspect the pricing "sweet spot" will end up being closer to $5 for skins.
Best PvE idea ever!
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
2868
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:29:00 -
[60] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! How much longer until I can get my Republic Marine skin?
People find this this review helpful!
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
L.O.T.I.S.
446
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:51:00 -
[61] - Quote
Not worth 19k ... Looks like I'll be buying more Amarr combat packs. Something that's actually worth and priced correctly.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2209
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?!
Wubwubwubwubwubwubstep!
Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:01:00 -
[63] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity.
We just need a slot in suits that act as a "customization" slot...
On Weapons as well...
We then could buy skins or shaders from CCP at 5-10 bux a pop and tweak our look and gun look how we see fit...
Then work on giving us a social area for a corporations or even a Singular DUST 514 space bar Similar to what PSN gave us with DUST avatar skins...
INcentivizing players to buy and show off their purchases and create envy so other players purchase as well..
Build this mechanic into the game... This is a legit F2p Mechanic that should of been making DUST money since Beta.... Every vet has been pleading with CCP to atleast make money off customization... Just setup the a solid foundation and then let the sales fund further development of the skins and shaders. |
Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
150
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:01:00 -
[64] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?!
Dubstep? Dubstep Youtube
I love this! CCP does something right. It is expensive at launch and forum trolls attack.
It is launch! WTF Forum Trolls!
You expected them to be cheap at launch? If I buy a skin now, I want my big shiny new porche to be big shiny and exclusive. So suck it! It is like the people who bought Iwatches at launch. No functionality this is about vanity. Don't hate on people for wanted to be shiny and special and will pay for it. Also don't hate CCP because they rolled more into this patch than all the patches last year. Caboom! new game mode, skins for all suits, lag reduction from contacts and chats.
From Logi, to Heavy, to Scout, now I am moving to ADS. Please stop balancing!
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
354
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:07:00 -
[65] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Lady MDK wrote:It seems this company doesn't learn.. first monaclegate now skingate... Monocles in Eve were $60, right? Not exactly comparing apples to apples Not that I think SKINs are priced correctly, just sayin'.
They dont have to be 1 to 1 just sayin ;)
I just dont know why ccp gets this so wrong all the time. Skins in other games are sensibly priced, i own several in elite: dangerous for 3 english pounds each and ive splashed out a hell of a lot more on these than i will on the ones for dust at their prices.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
354
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:09:00 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?!
Kinda irrelevant dont ya think since we are discussing your pricing not musical preferances of todays kids. try and stay on topic mr rattati
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. RUST415
3255
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:36:00 -
[67] - Quote
I would pay $10 for a skin that applies to all of one race or one tier of dropsuit, but not for just one tier of one race. Especially if that's just a scout suit (because light frames don't exist).
Dust is there! I was real!
Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
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Raedon Vo-Graza
Armored Dragon Dust
81
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:02:00 -
[68] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see.
I may only buy a Quafe IF Quafes get separated into skins and BPO's, this way i can finally have my Templar commando, which CCP so conveniently forgot to add (along with a scout). And i hope that Templar's also get separated so i can do said procedure as well. Other then that I'll sell my Quafe skins for isk, I'm not a big fan of them. |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9828
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:09:00 -
[69] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! Just more of The Man putting it to the Minmatar.
I see how it is...
*Holds up rusty fist* Minmatar Power!
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
23585
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:10:00 -
[70] - Quote
Baltazar Pontain wrote:I know that this post will ban me from forum but I think it is worth.
CCP is greedy. Full stop.
For 40$ I get a full game, why should I buy 4 cosmetic skins? That is ridiculous.
On the plus side I have to say that it is at least cosmetic so no one is forced to buy it. BUT
I dont like to stress this saying to much.
You upset people with to high prices. Please tell this your marketing. Even if some people are rich or have parents that pay anything for their children.
Interesting side note: Skins are introduced in EVE too with MUCH lower prices (~3500 Aurum for smaller vessels even less). Of course you have to pay their a monthly fee so it is maybe not comparable straight forward, but if I sum up the costs for a fast skill point gain in Dust514 I have to say that Dust514 is an very expensive game.
Upsetting people is irrelevant as long as some people pay.
If you offer skins at $10 rather than $1 you can afford to have 1/10 of the purchases, and if you get any more than that (which is probable) you end up with more money. vOv
Supreme Forum Warrior
Gallente Guide
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1145
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:15:00 -
[71] - Quote
$10 Meh.
Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause.
Who cares what some sniper has to say.
**--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
723
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:43:00 -
[72] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? RIP style min scouts
STD Active Scanner with Scan Profile of 46db too OP
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
Art.of.Death
86
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Posted - 2015.04.28 20:52:00 -
[73] - Quote
Vell0cet wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see. I bought my BPOs for function. I don't see a lot of value in skins personally, but I'm happy you guys are adding them for people who are into it. From my perspective, the prices seem high for an item with less utility and also relative to the pricing on cosmetic items in other games. I wasn't planning on buying skins either way, so either you can take my feedback as unbiased, or disregard it because I'm not planning on buying them. I would be willing to drop some AUR on BPO STD weapons though (but not via the key lottery system). I just don't want you to make the mistake of conflating the demand for BPOs with demand for skins. I have spent a lot of AUR on BPOs, but I'm not really into cosmetic stuff beyond what I already have. I'm sure you guys will run the numbers and do what's best for the game, so I'm not too worried about this issue. I suspect the pricing "sweet spot" will end up being closer to $5 for skins.
I couldn't agree more, on the price point for skins. We should get 3 skins for $5 dollars.
CEO / Art.of.Death
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1259
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Posted - 2015.04.28 21:37:00 -
[74] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see.
It is when the Quafe assault dropsuit is a Minmatar suit that he can use rather than the Dren which is Caldari which is weapons and skills do not jive with.
Your game is terrible, you should feel bad.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1260
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Posted - 2015.04.28 21:45:00 -
[75] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?!
What are these lopsided teams these days you call balanced?
Your game is terrible, you should feel bad.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game RUST415
567
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Posted - 2015.04.28 22:27:00 -
[76] - Quote
Henchmen21 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! What are these lopsided teams these days you call balanced? Numbers will explain everything.
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2212
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Posted - 2015.04.28 22:40:00 -
[77] - Quote
Sequal's Back wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! What are these lopsided teams these days you call balanced? Numbers will explain everything.
Lack there of you mean.
Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
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David Spd
Caldari State
196
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Posted - 2015.04.29 00:47:00 -
[78] - Quote
Guess that whole big protest of "Skins should be affordable" went right out the window. I'll pass, thanks.
--> I'm a closed beta vet; I just don't post often <--
"Other people just complicate my life." ~Solid Snake
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killian178
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
164
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Posted - 2015.04.29 01:53:00 -
[79] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see. Just throwing this out there.... I bought bpos for trading....
Join channel blkmrkt for safe scam free tades, when it's here anyway......
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18585
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Posted - 2015.04.29 02:13:00 -
[80] - Quote
Talos Vagheitan wrote:$10 Meh.
Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause.
Yeah and they also taste good. BUT I CAN'T I EAT MY SKINs?!
Clarification: In NZ Girl Guide Cookies are amazing. Most cultured things are amazing in this country. Step you Milk up a level you Murican's! The milk for your country is disgusting.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2214
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Posted - 2015.04.29 02:20:00 -
[81] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:$10 Meh.
Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause. Yeah and they also taste good. BUT I CAN'T I EAT MY SKINs?! Clarification: In NZ Girl Guide Cookies are amazing. Most cultured things are amazing in this country. Step you Milk up a level you Murican's! The milk for your country is disgusting.
you think generation 1 aseptic milk tastes good??? Omg True. No. This made me sad for Fonterra, and i effing hate them.
Actually come to Murica and drink milk. Much better than that white bread bleach crap you have.
Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18588
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Posted - 2015.04.29 02:22:00 -
[82] - Quote
Soldner VonKuechle wrote:True Adamance wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:$10 Meh.
Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause. Yeah and they also taste good. BUT I CAN'T I EAT MY SKINs?! Clarification: In NZ Girl Guide Cookies are amazing. Most cultured things are amazing in this country. Step you Milk up a level you Murican's! The milk for your country is disgusting. you think generation 1 aseptic milk tastes good??? Omg True. No. This made me sad for Fonterra, and i effing hate them. Actually come to Murica and drink milk. Much better than that white bread bleach crap you have.
Our milk is the best punk!
Your's is over sweetened and processed crap.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. RUST415
821
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Posted - 2015.04.29 02:38:00 -
[83] - Quote
No need to argue folks. If you don't like the price don't buy. CCP will get the hint with low skin sales and drop prices. |
killian178
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
164
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Posted - 2015.04.29 03:23:00 -
[84] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:One Eyed King wrote:And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800.
Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! Best thing I've read all day
Join channel blkmrkt for safe scam free tades, when it's here anyway......
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
1560
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Posted - 2015.04.29 03:27:00 -
[85] - Quote
Am I the only one that thinks the prices are where they should be? You can use it on basic, advanced, and proto suits. A standard BPO saves you what, 3k ISK?
IF YOU CAN READ THIS
YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2214
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Posted - 2015.04.29 03:41:00 -
[86] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:True Adamance wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:$10 Meh.
Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause. Yeah and they also taste good. BUT I CAN'T I EAT MY SKINs?! Clarification: In NZ Girl Guide Cookies are amazing. Most cultured things are amazing in this country. Step you Milk up a level you Murican's! The milk for your country is disgusting. you think generation 1 aseptic milk tastes good??? Omg True. No. This made me sad for Fonterra, and i effing hate them. Actually come to Murica and drink milk. Much better than that white bread bleach crap you have. Our milk is the best punk! Your's is over sweetened and processed crap.
Legally cant add any sugar nor does it do anything but super heat/cool and bottle it. Care to slander again?
Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18593
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Posted - 2015.04.29 03:57:00 -
[87] - Quote
Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Legally cant add any sugar nor does it do anything but super heat/cool and bottle it. Care to slander again?
Fair enough..... but when I was in America. Whatever it is your do to your milk I could not on my life find either a good coffee of cup of tea anywhere. What are you? Barbarians?
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2214
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Posted - 2015.04.29 04:06:00 -
[88] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Legally cant add any sugar nor does it do anything but super heat/cool and bottle it. Care to slander again?
Fair enough..... but when I was in America. Whatever it is your do to your milk I could not on my life find either a good coffee of cup of tea anywhere. What are you? Barbarians?
we definitely do like our coffee and tea on the....rougher edge.
Where'd you go while in freedomland? Might be ablr to answer you milk question
Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9827
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Posted - 2015.04.29 04:14:00 -
[89] - Quote
Booby Tuesdays wrote:Am I the only one that thinks the prices are where they should be? You can use it on basic, advanced, and proto suits. A standard BPO saves you what, 3k ISK?
3,000 ISK * GêP
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
1561
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Posted - 2015.04.29 04:43:00 -
[90] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Am I the only one that thinks the prices are where they should be? You can use it on basic, advanced, and proto suits. A standard BPO saves you what, 3k ISK? 3,000 ISK * GêP And how often do you actually run a basic suit? I'll bet you would run that SKIN way more often on your advanced and proto suits than you ever would have run a standard BPO. Bang for the buck is equal, imho.
Am I going to pay $10? Nope. Waiting for faction LP/ISK SKINs.
IF YOU CAN READ THIS
YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1249
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Posted - 2015.04.29 05:19:00 -
[91] - Quote
Baltazar Pontain wrote:I know that this post will ban me from forum but I think it is worth.
CCP is greedy. Full stop.
For 40$ I get a full game, why should I buy 4 cosmetic skins? That is ridiculous.
On the plus side I have to say that it is at least cosmetic so no one is forced to buy it. BUT
I dont like to stress this saying to much.
You upset people with to high prices. Please tell this your marketing. Even if some people are rich or have parents that pay anything for their children.
Interesting side note: Skins are introduced in EVE too with MUCH lower prices (~3500 Aurum for smaller vessels even less). Of course you have to pay their a monthly fee so it is maybe not comparable straight forward, but if I sum up the costs for a fast skill point gain in Dust514 I have to say that Dust514 is an very expensive game.
3,500 AUR is worth more in EVE , it is scaled differently. I think 3,500 may actually be more than 10 dollars..I think 2,500 is 10 bucks..might be wrong though |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3813
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Posted - 2015.04.29 05:29:00 -
[92] - Quote
Debating on whether or not to buy a Kador SKIN...
Not only will I be one of the only Amarr scouts in existence, I'll have a snazzy skin on top of that!
I have ~26,000 AUR literally just sitting there, and boosters aren't for me, so why not? I also have 20$ in my PSN... Damn. I'm getting it.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9831
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Posted - 2015.04.29 05:37:00 -
[93] - Quote
Booby Tuesdays wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Am I the only one that thinks the prices are where they should be? You can use it on basic, advanced, and proto suits. A standard BPO saves you what, 3k ISK? 3,000 ISK * GêP And how often do you actually run a basic suit? I'll bet you would run that SKIN way more often on your advanced and proto suits than you ever would have run a standard BPO. Bang for the buck is equal, imho. Am I going to pay $10? Nope. Waiting for faction LP/ISK SKINs.
Me, personally? Not that often, because I don't like the way BPO's operate (no risk) and I have more than enough funding to recover from the loss of a few prototype suits. I also want a competitive edge against my opponents and am a firm believer in the total annihilation of power levels (no more standard/advanced/proto - just one tier) and the removal of BPO's all together (apart from starter suits that have limited modification).
In fact, only time I ever use BPO's is when I've run out of fits mid-battle and don't feel like getting kicked out of the match trying to restock them all (I use blended fits with aurum gear that must be restocked individually).
However, I do know a lot of people who only use BPO's in Pub-matches and make a killing doing so. Because it's not -just- 3,000 ISK that you're saving, it's the fact that you're losing absolutely nothing and banking anywhere from 100,000 - 500,000 ISK every ten-to-twenty minute game.
PC Clone-generation netted about 8,000,000/day if I remember correctly, which for a corporation with a single district is about 500,000 ISK per person for a 16 man team. That being said, you make more, individually, using BPO's than you would have from PC unless you did what Kain Spero and the gang did and just monopolize the entirety of PC and lock down the districts to prove a point.
Sure, PC was broken, but now that it is virtually impossible to lock a district (PC list view) and you can't make ISK gains from simply selling clones, the real economy crasher is BPOs.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1249
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Posted - 2015.04.29 05:42:00 -
[94] - Quote
removal of bpo and suit tiers.. good luck with that |
ANAHEIM Darko
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
368
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Posted - 2015.04.29 05:47:00 -
[95] - Quote
Bought an Ishukone skin. Can't fit it to Apex suits. Bummer.
Caldari Assault ck.0.
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9833
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Posted - 2015.04.29 06:31:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:removal of bpo and suit tiers.. good luck with that
Yeah, they'll never do it, but they'll also never explain why we have tiers in the first place.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
758
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:34:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I would pay $10 for a skin that applies to all of one race or one tier of dropsuit, but not for just one tier of one race. Especially if that's just a scout suit (because light frames don't exist).
I would like to tie all of my suits together. I switch between every type of suit as needed, and there's nothing to tie it together. You don't realize I switched from scout to heavy until you see my name & HMG in the killfeed. Vanity items should be about self glorification, not role player immersion.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Vyzion Eyri
WarRavens
2824
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:47:00 -
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-shrug- EVE just released their new SKIN system too, and their skins only apply to a single ship out of dozens, prices range from under to over $10.
I have three points.
Firstly, the fact that we managed 5 pages complaining about SKIN price only seems to tell CCP we want them real badly; ie. if they do drop the price it won't be by much. If no-one said anything about SKINS, if sales were low and it looked like no one even cared, then they'd probably drop prices by half. In theory.
Secondly, I wouldn't mind if they left skins at $10, and once AURUM item trading is enabled, rich kids could sell skins for ISK. Sounds like a solid way to create a DUST 514 'PLEX'.
Oh, and by the way, does anyone remember the fact that, oh, I don't know, we get AUR for free now, as well as the free AUR from the upcoming event (if you're hardcore enough)?
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8284
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:48:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see.
Actually I always intend to use my extras for in-game ISK sales or distribution to new corp members. The quafe dropsuits and templar dropsuits are the only ones I got for the looks. The rest I can throw out and do things with. But I always considered the dropsuit and weapon BPOs for function, and if trades ever went live (which they have, and I rejoice) to give to new corpmates. It's why I kept buying bundles on the PSN store.
AV
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7245
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:52:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Debating on whether or not to buy a Kador SKIN...
Not only will I be one of the only Amarr scouts in existence, I'll have a snazzy skin on top of that!
I have ~26,000 AUR literally just sitting there, and boosters aren't for me, so why not? I also have 20$ in my PSN... Damn. I'm getting it. They look exactly like a prototype Amarr Scout. Red eyes and everything. |
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
641
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Posted - 2015.04.29 15:52:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.
Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.
We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity.
Basically this boils down to this: I can either buy a single skin for a single set of suits, or I can buy an entire game on steam.
This is bad news for CCP since I've got my eye on this old beauty.
Please realize that you are in a competitive environment here and that alot more people will see this as worth it if the price you charge isnt absolutely absurd.
I know personally Im not going to be buying any of these skins until they are about 2 bucks a piece. Making a skin for a 3d model is not hard enough to justify a 10-20$ fee. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1252
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Posted - 2015.04.29 15:56:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:-shrug- EVE just released their new SKIN system too, and their skins only apply to a single ship out of dozens, prices range from under to over $10.
I have three points.
Firstly, the fact that we managed 5 pages complaining about SKIN price only seems to tell CCP we want them real badly; ie. if they do drop the price it won't be by much. If no-one said anything about SKINS, if sales were low and it looked like no one even cared, then they'd probably drop prices by half. In theory.
Secondly, I wouldn't mind if they left skins at $10, and once AURUM item trading is enabled, rich kids could sell skins for ISK. Sounds like a solid way to create a DUST 514 'PLEX'.
Oh, and by the way, does anyone remember the fact that, oh, I don't know, we get AUR for free now, as well as the free AUR from the upcoming event (if you're hardcore enough)?
you got to be hardcore to complete 5 challenges??
I do that in my first 2 games |
Fleen Costell'o
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
590
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Posted - 2015.04.29 16:03:00 -
[103] - Quote
5k AUR max.
BUGS514 Find all. I love ksu123 )
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Drogan Reeth
Free Trade Corp
171
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Posted - 2015.04.29 16:41:00 -
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If you insist on pricing them at 10$ at least offer a better deal.
A pack of 5 skins for 10$
I can see myself spending 20$ for 10 skins, but 100$? That's MADNESS! |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1708
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Posted - 2015.04.29 16:50:00 -
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Poorly thought out before implementation. There was no rush to get 'this' out as it stands, and rush is precisely what they have done.
'LR4-Trading' Protester
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
898
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Posted - 2015.04.29 21:22:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:If existing bpos (22,000) will be converted to skin plus bpo - does it mean a non skinned? bpo will now cost 3,000? Dont be silly.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3823
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Posted - 2015.04.29 22:27:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Debating on whether or not to buy a Kador SKIN...
Not only will I be one of the only Amarr scouts in existence, I'll have a snazzy skin on top of that!
I have ~26,000 AUR literally just sitting there, and boosters aren't for me, so why not? I also have 20$ in my PSN... Damn. I'm getting it. They look exactly like a prototype Amarr Scout. Red eyes and everything. Seriously? Its not like, dark blue or something? Have you seen one for sure?
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Vyzion Eyri
WarRavens
2827
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Posted - 2015.04.29 22:57:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:-shrug- EVE just released their new SKIN system too, and their skins only apply to a single ship out of dozens, prices range from under to over $10.
I have three points.
Firstly, the fact that we managed 5 pages complaining about SKIN price only seems to tell CCP we want them real badly; ie. if they do drop the price it won't be by much. If no-one said anything about SKINS, if sales were low and it looked like no one even cared, then they'd probably drop prices by half. In theory.
Secondly, I wouldn't mind if they left skins at $10, and once AURUM item trading is enabled, rich kids could sell skins for ISK. Sounds like a solid way to create a DUST 514 'PLEX'.
Oh, and by the way, does anyone remember the fact that, oh, I don't know, we get AUR for free now, as well as the free AUR from the upcoming event (if you're hardcore enough)?
you got to be hardcore to complete 5 challenges?? I do that in my first 2 games
Point proven. Free AUR everywhere, people worrying about $10 skins. Grind $5 worth, spend $5 on the other half.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9866
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:58:00 -
[109] - Quote
Vyzion Eyri wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:-shrug- EVE just released their new SKIN system too, and their skins only apply to a single ship out of dozens, prices range from under to over $10.
I have three points.
Firstly, the fact that we managed 5 pages complaining about SKIN price only seems to tell CCP we want them real badly; ie. if they do drop the price it won't be by much. If no-one said anything about SKINS, if sales were low and it looked like no one even cared, then they'd probably drop prices by half. In theory.
Secondly, I wouldn't mind if they left skins at $10, and once AURUM item trading is enabled, rich kids could sell skins for ISK. Sounds like a solid way to create a DUST 514 'PLEX'.
Oh, and by the way, does anyone remember the fact that, oh, I don't know, we get AUR for free now, as well as the free AUR from the upcoming event (if you're hardcore enough)?
you got to be hardcore to complete 5 challenges?? I do that in my first 2 games Point proven. Free AUR everywhere, people worrying about $10 skins. Grind $5 worth, spend $5 on the other half.
You realize that half of that Aurum cost is about 400 days of logging in, right?
Dust 514 probably won't even be around that long /sarcasm
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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