DUST Search - Ouch, that price tag on the SKINs

Vell0cet wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place.

Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo.

We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity.

So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function.

If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer Smile

So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see.

I bought my BPOs for function. I don't see a lot of value in skins personally, but I'm happy you guys are adding them for people who are into it. From my perspective, the prices seem high for an item with less utility and also relative to the pricing on cosmetic items in other games. I wasn't planning on buying skins either way, so either you can take my feedback as unbiased, or disregard it because I'm not planning on buying them. I would be willing to drop some AUR on BPO STD weapons though (but not via the key lottery system).

I just don't want you to make the mistake of conflating the demand for BPOs with demand for skins. I have spent a lot of AUR on BPOs, but I'm not really into cosmetic stuff beyond what I already have. I'm sure you guys will run the numbers and do what's best for the game, so I'm not too worried about this issue. I suspect the pricing "sweet spot" will end up being closer to $5 for skins.

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Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 446	Posted - 2015.04.28 16:51:00 - [61] - Quote Not worth 19k ... Looks like I'll be buying more Amarr combat packs. Something that's actually worth and priced correctly. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2209	Posted - 2015.04.28 16:58:00 - [62] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: One Eyed King wrote: And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800. Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! Wubwubwubwubwubwubstep! Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 110	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:01:00 - [63] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place. Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo. We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. We just need a slot in suits that act as a "customization" slot... On Weapons as well... We then could buy skins or shaders from CCP at 5-10 bux a pop and tweak our look and gun look how we see fit... Then work on giving us a social area for a corporations or even a Singular DUST 514 space bar Similar to what PSN gave us with DUST avatar skins... INcentivizing players to buy and show off their purchases and create envy so other players purchase as well.. Build this mechanic into the game... This is a legit F2p Mechanic that should of been making DUST money since Beta.... Every vet has been pleading with CCP to atleast make money off customization... Just setup the a solid foundation and then let the sales fund further development of the skins and shaders.
Balistyc Farshot OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance 150	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:01:00 - [64] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: One Eyed King wrote: And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800. Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! Dubstep? Dubstep Youtube I love this! CCP does something right. It is expensive at launch and forum trolls attack. It is launch! WTF Forum Trolls! You expected them to be cheap at launch? If I buy a skin now, I want my big shiny new porche to be big shiny and exclusive. So suck it! It is like the people who bought Iwatches at launch. No functionality this is about vanity. Don't hate on people for wanted to be shiny and special and will pay for it. Also don't hate CCP because they rolled more into this patch than all the patches last year. Caboom! new game mode, skins for all suits, lag reduction from contacts and chats. From Logi, to Heavy, to Scout, now I am moving to ADS. Please stop balancing!
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 354	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:07:00 - [65] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lady MDK wrote: It seems this company doesn't learn.. first monaclegate now skingate... Monocles in Eve were $60, right? Not exactly comparing apples to apples Not that I think SKINs are priced correctly, just sayin'. They dont have to be 1 to 1 just sayin ;) I just dont know why ccp gets this so wrong all the time. Skins in other games are sensibly priced, i own several in elite: dangerous for 3 english pounds each and ive splashed out a hell of a lot more on these than i will on the ones for dust at their prices. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 354	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:09:00 - [66] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: One Eyed King wrote: And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800. Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! Kinda irrelevant dont ya think since we are discussing your pricing not musical preferances of todays kids. try and stay on topic mr rattati Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. RUST415 3255	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:36:00 - [67] - Quote I would pay $10 for a skin that applies to all of one race or one tier of dropsuit, but not for just one tier of one race. Especially if that's just a scout suit (because light frames don't exist). Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Raedon Vo-Graza Armored Dragon Dust 81	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:02:00 - [68] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place. Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo. We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see. I may only buy a Quafe IF Quafes get separated into skins and BPO's, this way i can finally have my Templar commando, which CCP so conveniently forgot to add (along with a scout). And i hope that Templar's also get separated so i can do said procedure as well. Other then that I'll sell my Quafe skins for isk, I'm not a big fan of them.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9828	Posted - 2015.04.28 19:09:00 - [69] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: One Eyed King wrote: And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800. Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! Just more of The Man putting it to the Minmatar. I see how it is... Holds up rusty fist Minmatar Power! Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23585	Posted - 2015.04.28 19:10:00 - [70] - Quote Baltazar Pontain wrote: I know that this post will ban me from forum but I think it is worth. CCP is greedy. Full stop. For 40$ I get a full game, why should I buy 4 cosmetic skins? That is ridiculous. On the plus side I have to say that it is at least cosmetic so no one is forced to buy it. BUT I dont like to stress this saying to much. You upset people with to high prices. Please tell this your marketing. Even if some people are rich or have parents that pay anything for their children. Interesting side note: Skins are introduced in EVE too with MUCH lower prices (~3500 Aurum for smaller vessels even less). Of course you have to pay their a monthly fee so it is maybe not comparable straight forward, but if I sum up the costs for a fast skill point gain in Dust514 I have to say that Dust514 is an very expensive game. Upsetting people is irrelevant as long as some people pay. If you offer skins at $10 rather than $1 you can afford to have 1/10 of the purchases, and if you get any more than that (which is probable) you end up with more money. vOv Supreme Forum Warrior Gallente Guide

Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1145	Posted - 2015.04.28 19:15:00 - [71] - Quote $10 Meh. Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause. Who cares what some sniper has to say. **--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 723	Posted - 2015.04.28 19:43:00 - [72] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800. Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? RIP style min scouts STD Active Scanner with Scan Profile of 46db too OP
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 86	Posted - 2015.04.28 20:52:00 - [73] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place. Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo. We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see. I bought my BPOs for function. I don't see a lot of value in skins personally, but I'm happy you guys are adding them for people who are into it. From my perspective, the prices seem high for an item with less utility and also relative to the pricing on cosmetic items in other games. I wasn't planning on buying skins either way, so either you can take my feedback as unbiased, or disregard it because I'm not planning on buying them. I would be willing to drop some AUR on BPO STD weapons though (but not via the key lottery system). I just don't want you to make the mistake of conflating the demand for BPOs with demand for skins. I have spent a lot of AUR on BPOs, but I'm not really into cosmetic stuff beyond what I already have. I'm sure you guys will run the numbers and do what's best for the game, so I'm not too worried about this issue. I suspect the pricing "sweet spot" will end up being closer to $5 for skins. I couldn't agree more, on the price point for skins. We should get 3 skins for $5 dollars. CEO / Art.of.Death
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1259	Posted - 2015.04.28 21:37:00 - [74] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place. Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo. We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see. It is when the Quafe assault dropsuit is a Minmatar suit that he can use rather than the Dren which is Caldari which is weapons and skills do not jive with. Your game is terrible, you should feel bad.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1260	Posted - 2015.04.28 21:45:00 - [75] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: One Eyed King wrote: And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800. Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! What are these lopsided teams these days you call balanced? Your game is terrible, you should feel bad.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 567	Posted - 2015.04.28 22:27:00 - [76] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: One Eyed King wrote: And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800. Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! What are these lopsided teams these days you call balanced? Numbers will explain everything. Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2212	Posted - 2015.04.28 22:40:00 - [77] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: One Eyed King wrote: And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800. Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! What are these lopsided teams these days you call balanced? Numbers will explain everything. Lack there of you mean. Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
David Spd Caldari State 196	Posted - 2015.04.29 00:47:00 - [78] - Quote Guess that whole big protest of "Skins should be affordable" went right out the window. I'll pass, thanks. --> I'm a closed beta vet; I just don't post often <-- "Other people just complicate my life." ~Solid Snake
killian178 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 164	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:53:00 - [79] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I consider the primary utility of my colored bpo's the actual look, which is the only reason I bought multiple bpo's in the first place. Having the ability to confer that look to any suitable dropsuit is be far a bigger utility than a bpo. We may certainly offer skins at different price points later once our authoring pipeline has more velocity. So do a survey and ask the playerbase if they bought their BPOs for Fashion or Function. If they say Function, well, then you'll have your answer So a players Quafe, when he has 3 Dren's, is function? Hardly. We will see. Just throwing this out there.... I bought bpos for trading.... Join channel blkmrkt for safe scam free tades, when it's here anyway......
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18585	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:13:00 - [80] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: $10 Meh. Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause. Yeah and they also taste good. BUT I CAN'T I EAT MY SKINs?! Clarification: In NZ Girl Guide Cookies are amazing. Most cultured things are amazing in this country. Step you Milk up a level you Murican's! The milk for your country is disgusting. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern

Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2214	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:20:00 - [81] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: $10 Meh. Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause. Yeah and they also taste good. BUT I CAN'T I EAT MY SKINs?! Clarification: In NZ Girl Guide Cookies are amazing. Most cultured things are amazing in this country. Step you Milk up a level you Murican's! The milk for your country is disgusting. you think generation 1 aseptic milk tastes good??? Omg True. No. This made me sad for Fonterra, and i effing hate them. Actually come to Murica and drink milk. Much better than that white bread bleach crap you have. Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18588	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:22:00 - [82] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: True Adamance wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: $10 Meh. Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause. Yeah and they also taste good. BUT I CAN'T I EAT MY SKINs?! Clarification: In NZ Girl Guide Cookies are amazing. Most cultured things are amazing in this country. Step you Milk up a level you Murican's! The milk for your country is disgusting. you think generation 1 aseptic milk tastes good??? Omg True. No. This made me sad for Fonterra, and i effing hate them. Actually come to Murica and drink milk. Much better than that white bread bleach crap you have. Our milk is the best punk! Your's is over sweetened and processed crap. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
Imp Smash Molon Labe. RUST415 821	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:38:00 - [83] - Quote No need to argue folks. If you don't like the price don't buy. CCP will get the hint with low skin sales and drop prices.
killian178 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 164	Posted - 2015.04.29 03:23:00 - [84] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: One Eyed King wrote: And why do some skins cost more than others? The Thukar for Min Light was 23,800 while most of the other ones were 19,800. Why the discrepancy in something that is fundamentally the same? And what are these loud noises that kids these days call music?! Best thing I've read all day Join channel blkmrkt for safe scam free tades, when it's here anyway......
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1560	Posted - 2015.04.29 03:27:00 - [85] - Quote Am I the only one that thinks the prices are where they should be? You can use it on basic, advanced, and proto suits. A standard BPO saves you what, 3k ISK? IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2214	Posted - 2015.04.29 03:41:00 - [86] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: True Adamance wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: $10 Meh. Think of it like girl scout cookies. You overpay for them because you know the money goes to a good cause. Yeah and they also taste good. BUT I CAN'T I EAT MY SKINs?! Clarification: In NZ Girl Guide Cookies are amazing. Most cultured things are amazing in this country. Step you Milk up a level you Murican's! The milk for your country is disgusting. you think generation 1 aseptic milk tastes good??? Omg True. No. This made me sad for Fonterra, and i effing hate them. Actually come to Murica and drink milk. Much better than that white bread bleach crap you have. Our milk is the best punk! Your's is over sweetened and processed crap. Legally cant add any sugar nor does it do anything but super heat/cool and bottle it. Care to slander again? Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18593	Posted - 2015.04.29 03:57:00 - [87] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Legally cant add any sugar nor does it do anything but super heat/cool and bottle it. Care to slander again? Fair enough..... but when I was in America. Whatever it is your do to your milk I could not on my life find either a good coffee of cup of tea anywhere. What are you? Barbarians? "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2214	Posted - 2015.04.29 04:06:00 - [88] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Legally cant add any sugar nor does it do anything but super heat/cool and bottle it. Care to slander again? Fair enough..... but when I was in America. Whatever it is your do to your milk I could not on my life find either a good coffee of cup of tea anywhere. What are you? Barbarians? we definitely do like our coffee and tea on the....rougher edge. Where'd you go while in freedomland? Might be ablr to answer you milk question Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9827	Posted - 2015.04.29 04:14:00 - [89] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Am I the only one that thinks the prices are where they should be? You can use it on basic, advanced, and proto suits. A standard BPO saves you what, 3k ISK? 3,000 ISK * GêP You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1561	Posted - 2015.04.29 04:43:00 - [90] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Am I the only one that thinks the prices are where they should be? You can use it on basic, advanced, and proto suits. A standard BPO saves you what, 3k ISK? 3,000 ISK * GêP And how often do you actually run a basic suit? I'll bet you would run that SKIN way more often on your advanced and proto suits than you ever would have run a standard BPO. Bang for the buck is equal, imho. Am I going to pay $10? Nope. Waiting for faction LP/ISK SKINs. IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES



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