I say bonus payout to winner.

Remember in EVE, complete a mission in x time get bonus pay.

Why not in DUST, win the battle get x bonus pay?

My main issue with this is largely that if you're playing an organised squad, winning can be incredibly easy. If you're not winning can be incredibly hard. This also seems like it might further reward lowest common denominator tactics like RE throwing and CRU/uplink/objective camping.

Beyond that I think that this is potentially the most rewarding to slayer roles, and maybe not rewarding enough to support roles (like AV, logi's can already earn stupid amounts of WP).

To bring in some of my experience with other games like MechWarrior Online, in that you could earn bonus monetary rewards from stuff like having all members of a squad be within (eg) 100m of each other. There was also stuff that was similar to intel kill assists (spotting / tagging / narcing assists), damaging enemies without being damaged in return (flanking bonuses), damaging/killing enemies who were damaging an ally ('protected [suit]').

I don't really have a problem with throwing extra money at people, but I'd like to see it done in such a manner that facilitates, enhances and rewards team-play rather than just funding people who are capable of being extra murder-tastic in proto stomp squads..

Dear players,

we have been thinking long and hard about a way to make winning battles lucrative, and maybe throwing caution to the wind to do so.

What do you think of two (or both) ways of increasing your reward.

This bonus reward would only be for the winner, loser would get the normal payout

Winner reward would be normal current payout + x% of own personal losses + y% of personally inflicted losses

x and y to be decided


I don't see an easy exploit to this system and it would mean that you would commit proto to claim the battle, instead of hunkering back in starter loadouts.

Dear players,

we have been thinking long and hard about a way to make winning battles lucrative, and maybe throwing caution to the wind to do so.

What do you think of two (or both) ways of increasing your reward.

This bonus reward would only be for the winner, loser would get the normal payout

Winner reward would be normal current payout + x% of own personal losses + y% of personally inflicted losses

x and y to be decided


I don't see an easy exploit to this system and it would mean that you would commit proto to claim the battle, instead of hunkering back in starter loadouts.

well, AV would be getting a % of their vehicle kills, that could be really lucrative

Dear players,

we have been thinking long and hard about a way to make winning battles lucrative, and maybe throwing caution to the wind to do so.

What do you think of two (or both) ways of increasing your reward.

This bonus reward would only be for the winner, loser would get the normal payout

Winner reward would be normal current payout + x% of own personal losses + y% of personally inflicted losses

x and y to be decided


I don't see an easy exploit to this system and it would mean that you would commit proto to claim the battle, instead of hunkering back in starter loadouts.

I think you need a trigger condition so that stomps are not rewarded

Such as both teams go below 50% of clones or MCCs into armour

well, AV would be getting a % of their vehicle kills, that could be really lucrative

Stomps are usually against shitfits. That extra what, 4k-6k/kill really adds up I tell ya.

You literally have to go 50/1to pull that off well.

And no. Bonus to the winners only.

We have lacked an incentive for people to really commit. Winning being profitable QUALIFIES COMPLETELY.

What's wrong with sharing ISK based on warpoints rather than kills? Otherwise it's unfair on people who contribute without focus on killing. Isn't that the whole point of the warpoint system?

Otherwise I like the idea. Especially getting back a portion of loss if you win.

It seems refunding loss is a much better idea overall, and I agree contribution should be measured in WP.

However, it is a shooty killy gamed, and someone who destroys proto suits and tanks, still only gets 50WP.

That reminds me of the good idea of boosted WP if using a weaker suit, that would serve a similar purpose.

Dear players,

we have been thinking long and hard about a way to make winning battles lucrative, and maybe throwing caution to the wind to do so.

What do you think of two (or both) ways of increasing your reward.

This bonus reward would only be for the winner, loser would get the normal payout

Winner reward would be normal current payout + x% of own personal losses + y% of personally inflicted losses

x and y to be decided


I don't see an easy exploit to this system and it would mean that you would commit proto to claim the battle, instead of hunkering back in starter loadouts.

It seems refunding loss is a much better idea overall, and I agree contribution should be measured in WP.

However, it is a shooty killy gamed, and someone who destroys proto suits and tanks, still only gets 50WP.

That reminds me of the good idea of boosted WP if using a weaker suit, that would serve a similar purpose.

Why don't you guys just remove the power-leveled BS altogether already? You're going to be phasing out the BPO's with skins at some point anyway so there's really no point in retaining the Militia/Standard/Advanced/Prototype theme anymore. It literally solves so many problems - balance, NPE, veteran/noob disparity, like... Seriously.

So ... less like Dust and more like CoD?

If we want to lessen veteran/noob disparity, another idea might be to add a wiggle-wiggle button:
When caught out in the open, hold down "X" to gyrate in position and generate nano cover.

God I get so tired of people relating everything they disagree with to Call of Duty, then at the same time praising CCP Rattati whenever he gets on his "other FPS games" kicks -_- Pick one.

What benefit does the power leveled BS actually offer to this game?