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Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1598	Posted - 2015.04.15 03:36:00 - [1] - Quote So, you are level 4 or higher and never spent a cent? How long have you been playing? Straight forward question. Sincerely curious. Well, speak up. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1128	Posted - 2015.04.15 03:40:00 - [2] - Quote Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? Selling Items Store - Code Bazaar
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3440	Posted - 2015.04.15 03:45:00 - [3] - Quote I have. Shotguns are made of a Scandium-Ruthenium-Boron enhanced alloy First to PM me with common name wins
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 6071	Posted - 2015.04.15 03:49:00 - [4] - Quote I haven't bought that much AURUM and I was at level 8 when they put the levels in. Apparently playing the game for ages and ages will get you there eventually. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9655	Posted - 2015.04.15 03:59:00 - [5] - Quote I think the fear of alts comes from the daily win giving a key thing? Idk it's stupid. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2277	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:04:00 - [6] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Nestil Nos Nothi 218	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:15:00 - [7] - Quote I think i'm not lvl 4 and I'm playing since chromosome (with some month breaks) and I never bought aurum. But I'll verify when I'm back from work.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 20688	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:16:00 - [8] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

The Eristic Dust 90210 879	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:16:00 - [9] - Quote I've been here since Summer '12, with a couple breaks. I've purchased a small pack or two (can't remember what it was called) in the past, but still 1158 points to reach 4 with probably 10+ matches a night for months on end. I have four "racial" characters I've played enough get multiple Pro suits and weapons on each, and they're all pretty much Rank 1. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2277	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:29:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. Components, Keys, Boxes, Militia gear (lol) / end of match rewards, ISK, Salvage. And the most important of all Experience. How many did I get? P.S. I love the suit. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.

The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4421	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:30:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. Like farming warbarge components and experimental weapons associated with it? I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
guhgggttgf Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:42:00 - [12] - Quote Loyalty Rank 4 is high Rank 2 or 3 should be enough to prevent Exploits...
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 140	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:52:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. Yeap, we don't need "Chinese gold farmers" in Dust... - login... create character... sell X items X warbarge components for 1 isk to "principal character"... biomass... 9 hours later... delete and repeat. Maybe Loyality rank 3 could work... but no recruits !!! or one-day characters. -- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 963	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:58:00 - [14] - Quote Been playing with this character since Spring 2014, stuck on Level 2... Missed a few months of game play(after Rouge Wedding and summer break) and never bought arum. No player trading for me :( PIE Lasers4life "See these marks... Don't overheat your gun"
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 195	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:21:00 - [15] - Quote Pretty much guarantee that new players won't get to participate . I understand the reasoning, but its pretty stupid. Not many people is going to pay for a basic feature that many rpg online games already have from the get-go.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 20692	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:22:00 - [16] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: Pretty much guarantee that new players won't get to participate . I understand the reasoning, but its pretty stupid. Not many people is going to pay for a basic feature that many rpg online games already have from the get-go. Name the free to play persistent shooters that do "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 195	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:25:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Avinash Decker wrote: Pretty much guarantee that new players won't get to participate . I understand the reasoning, but its pretty stupid. Not many people is going to pay for a basic feature that many rpg online games already have from the get-go. Name the free to play persistent shooters that do Talking about any kind popular and relevant ones? Firefall
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1135	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:30:00 - [18] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. Boosters aren't given out from beginner tutorials anymore. I concede that there are mlt BPO's to be made, but they aren't worth the effort put in to obain, and only a handful of people have bothered with them. The proposed restriction weighs against not just newcomers, but all who haven't spent a cent, yet show dedication to the game. Look and behold the examples of core players with level 2... Selling Items Store - Code Bazaar
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1266	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:42:00 - [19] - Quote I have rank 5. 2 years of sticking around. Caldari Loyalist thecreaturehub fan Mejt0 Sale List
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2280	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:42:00 - [20] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. Boosters aren't given out from beginner tutorials anymore. I concede that there are mlt BPO's to be made, but they aren't worth the effort put in to obain, and only a handful of people have bothered with them. The proposed restriction weighs against not just newcomers, but all who haven't spent a cent, yet show dedication to the game. Look and behold the examples of core players with level 2... Here hold this This. "This" is your noob card. Embrace it. It's yours. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.

Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1136	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:48:00 - [21] - Quote Meh, nice try. I just happen to know my sh!t. Selling Items Store - Code Bazaar
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8749	Posted - 2015.04.15 06:46:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. #1 - Unlimited newbro boosters #2 - Unlimited newsletter goodies #3 - Experimental weapon production abuse #4 - Win a daily mission, get a golden key abuse Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 86	Posted - 2015.04.15 06:49:00 - [23] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I think the fear of alts comes from the daily win giving a key thing? Idk it's stupid. Yeah, CCP's always jewing those keys. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2288	Posted - 2015.04.15 06:51:00 - [24] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. #1 - Unlimited newbro boosters #2 - Unlimited newsletter goodies #3 - Experimental weapon production abuse #4 - Win a daily mission, get a golden key abuse Yea, so, for Newsletter goodies your character would have to have been created before the actual corresponding newsletter. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1142	Posted - 2015.04.15 07:00:00 - [25] - Quote mwhahaha dude I've been playin since summer 2012 and i'm at loyalty rank 3 which is kinda ridiculous, people in EVE can trade no problem. Yes I understand this is a free to play game and it would be EASIER for scammers if there were no restrictions but getting to loyalty lvl 4 and above from where I am seems to require plenty more no lifing than I already have done and plenty of $$ for Aurum. I did take a long break from Dust after fanfest 2014 but still damn being stuck like this is kinda ******. So to me its looking like pay to unlock another part of this game that separates this fps from many other fps games or start playing a ton more of this game but that won't happen since I only play 4-5 matches whenever I decide to give Dust514 a try for a day. Should Legion be on the ps4?**
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 1045	Posted - 2015.04.15 07:39:00 - [26] - Quote IMHO - I would like to see this extended to the forums. No one below rank 4 should be able to post.
dzizur Nos Nothi 213	Posted - 2015.04.15 07:48:00 - [27] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: IMHO - I would like to see this extended to the forums. No one below rank 4 should be able to post. Same I was thinking, if we're scewing non-paying people over, why not do it full time? ;)
Admonishment Nos Nothi 199	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:06:00 - [28] - Quote I am rank five and halfway to six. Been playing for a long time though and pretty much spent the majority of the time on one character. May have gotten to six already but college took up most my time for a while. It isn't impossible but it will take a lot of grinding. I don't always win 1v1, but when I don't...I cry for nerfs. Stay nerfing my friends.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1107	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:11:00 - [29] - Quote Admonishment wrote: I am rank five and halfway to six. Been playing for a long time though and pretty much spent the majority of the time on one character. May have gotten to six already but college took up most my time for a while. It isn't impossible but it will take a lot of grinding. no money spent?? not even the 20 dollar merc pack in beta? if so , that's some dedication to the game man
Admonishment Nos Nothi 199	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:17:00 - [30] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Admonishment wrote: I am rank five and halfway to six. Been playing for a long time though and pretty much spent the majority of the time on one character. May have gotten to six already but college took up most my time for a while. It isn't impossible but it will take a lot of grinding. no money spent?? not even the 20 dollar merc pack in beta? if so , that's some dedication to the game man Not one merc pack lol, my money went to art tools mostly. Pretty much everything I have now I got just from grinding it out. I would sneak in a few games while taking a break from studying and just kept repeating that over the years. What a grind...lol. I don't always win 1v1, but when I don't...I cry for nerfs. Stay nerfing my friends.

shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4385	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:21:00 - [31] - Quote There should be another way that is not AURality rank, i play since open beta and i'm level 5, without aurum reach level 4 will take at least half a year (being generous), i didn't make it from level 5 to level 6 from loyalty rank introduction and i play pretty much. Another thing is that one can always spend 50k AUR than he's free to trade despite being new. EZ steps New mail and PSN account Create alt and get some free stuff and a new recruit Buy AUR Buy Boosters Get level 5 Play for 100k WP (for more BPOs) Wait a month or two until booster & BPO will be tradeable. (only first iteration) Trade your stuff Profit Suggestion: Unlock trading after a combined WP-ISK-SP treshold. Play from Japan, rule the game!
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 867	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:06:00 - [32] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: So, you are level 4 or higher and never spent a cent? How long have you been playing? Straight forward question. Sincerely curious. Well, speak up. 2 years i have been playing, bought a merk pack, havent spent all the AUR yet. Nowhere near Lv 4. I like this game but recent additions by this company are starting to leave a bad taste in my mouth. This is a features that has been teased and asked for for ages now. They finally did it, thatGÇÖs great. But if they expect me or indeed a new player to fork over money for a GÇPvery basicGÇ¥ version of trading i think they are mistaken. We need new players and player retention NOW. This means not shielding functions after a X year of grinding daily. Most people just donGÇÖt have the time for that kind of grinding. They should now be excluded from a cool mechanic of the game? Casual playing is not good enough to participate? I just think this company is asking ridiculous prices for very little development value. What rattati and his team is doing for the game is great and to be commended and iGÇÖm grateful theyGÇÖve not given up on us. But someone in that company is experimenting with the monetization knob, which i get, but you can take it too far. WeGÇÖve had the Boxes, the Warbarge and now thisGÇª too little content for too much money. And donGÇÖt pull the GÇPiterationGÇ¥ card and proceed to not give a glimpse or a hint of what can be expected in terms of the future of dust. I hope i can say that i was looking at this all the wrong way a couple of months from now, but if this is the price of GÇPdust is now profitableGÇ¥ the well... Also, i think i'm coming down with the butthurt. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 526	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:14:00 - [33] - Quote I paid about 40Gé¼ in Dust in 2 years. Played about 1500h (if not more) and even though I've had many long breaks I'm in the top 800 or even better (as many people here). I'm only rank 5. I'd probably be rank 3 or 4 without paying anything. Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3782	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:16:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. Infinite Officer Weapons, Boosters, and other items from the Newsletter. One of the problems with the Loyalty Ranking system is that it does not count money spent on the game, only Aurum. This means that if you bought the 100 Dollar Dren pack that has zero Aurum, you get less Loyalty Ranking than someone that bought the 5 dollar Aurum. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
cray cray FISH Caught Me With My Pants Down 47	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:22:00 - [35] - Quote I don't know how the loyalty rank is sorted out, but my alt, which i have had since late 2013 is rank 3. That is zero aurum and minimal playing. How are people that play this game not rank 4?? .#Stormtrooper4life Team BD's Resident Fish
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4385	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:22:00 - [36] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. Infinite Officer Weapons, Boosters, and other items from the Newsletter. One of the problems with the Loyalty Ranking system is that it does not count money spent on the game, only Aurum. This means that if you bought the 100 Dollar Dren pack that has zero Aurum, you get less Loyalty Ranking than someone that bought the 5 dollar Aurum. I think that you can redeem only newsletter after your subscription. BTW, i can't trade with any of my alts, all created in open beta, that's ridicoulus. Play from Japan, rule the game!
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 868	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:27:00 - [37] - Quote cray cray FISH wrote: I don't know how the loyalty rank is sorted out, but my alt, which i have had since late 2013 is rank 3. That is zero aurum and minimal playing. How are people that play this game not rank 4?? Depends on your idea of minimal playing. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1189	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:54:00 - [38] - Quote Level 5 and I-¦ve been around since beta.
cray cray FISH Caught Me With My Pants Down 47	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:56:00 - [39] - Quote Wilhelm Klingspor wrote: cray cray FISH wrote: I don't know how the loyalty rank is sorted out, but my alt, which i have had since late 2013 is rank 3. That is zero aurum and minimal playing. How are people that play this game not rank 4?? Depends on your idea of minimal playing. In the 1 and a half years he has been active i have a total of 2500 kills on it. Which people are getting in a week... well no lifers. .#Stormtrooper4life Team BD's Resident Fish
VALCORE72 Vengeance Unbound RUST415 281	Posted - 2015.04.15 10:31:00 - [40] - Quote yes its possible but you have to grind your arss off . first week fw came out thats all i did . made 40000 lp. was great with the pay outs . im lv 9 now and still need 6000 pts to 10. few months yet . lv 10 dont mean sht anyway lol. just saying it is possible just be rdy to grind your arss off . asian haters united lol .

Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 71	Posted - 2015.04.15 11:41:00 - [41] - Quote Been playing for a year. Got to rank three than the LAV BPO bundle came out...... Now I feel stupid for buying them... a single AV grenade can kill the things.... One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
ANAHEIM Darko Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 225	Posted - 2015.04.15 11:45:00 - [42] - Quote VALCORE72 wrote: yes its possible but you have to grind your arss off . first week fw came out thats all i did . made 40000 lp. was great with the pay outs . im lv 9 now and still need 6000 pts to 10. few months yet . lv 10 dont mean sht anyway lol. just saying it is possible just be rdy to grind your arss off . Thats faction loyalty rank. The ranking to which trading refers is the generic one based on logins, games, warpoints and aurum purchased. I think. CalAss Grunt. Former Eve Pilot. --Cellar Door
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 870	Posted - 2015.04.15 11:51:00 - [43] - Quote cray cray FISH wrote: Wilhelm Klingspor wrote: cray cray FISH wrote: I don't know how the loyalty rank is sorted out, but my alt, which i have had since late 2013 is rank 3. That is zero aurum and minimal playing. How are people that play this game not rank 4?? Depends on your idea of minimal playing. In the 1 and a half years he has been active i have a total of 2500 kills on it. Which people are getting in a week... well no lifers. Having said that, apparently consecutive logins help loyalty rank, i log in most days, just dont play it. Fair enough, but i can't log in daily, because im off for work, off to some bar or flying my pterodactyl. Logging in and not playing seems pointless to me. I play casually and after 2 years i'm still somewhere between Terribad and awful at this game so kill-wise it won't be pretty too. This should not exclude me from trading though. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Vash Warren SMARTCREW Smart Deploy 136	Posted - 2015.04.15 11:52:00 - [44] - Quote I would be more inclined to be based on warpoints as either they will have to do a lot of logi stuff, or work a long time depending on how it is set up. It would just be said if you killed my broker business before it got off the ground. Trying to help people in an unforgiving world. And I get shut down. On the bright side with not paying Aurum it will only take till Valkyrie for me to do Player Trading. Looking to purchase or sell anything Officer, Aur, or of special value. Message in game for trade information.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 679	Posted - 2015.04.15 12:06:00 - [45] - Quote Have been playing since somewhere in 2013, bought one or two small packages of Aurum, got about 15 mio SP on my account. I'm level 2, last I looked. 3 at most. And don't get me started on my alts, both older than six months.
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 503	Posted - 2015.04.15 12:16:00 - [46] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. Boosters aren't given out from beginner tutorials anymore. I concede that there are mlt BPO's to be made, but they aren't worth the effort put in to obain, and only a handful of people have bothered with them. The proposed restriction weighs against not just newcomers, but all who haven't spent a cent, yet show dedication to the game. Look and behold the examples of core players with level 2... If you make a alt right now, you will see that they have a 3 day passive and a 3? day active booster. Easily tradeable. I however, want that Recruit AR! STD Active Scanner with Scan Profile of 46db too OP
Vektus Alvoraan WarRavens 80	Posted - 2015.04.15 12:18:00 - [47] - Quote I was Level 5 when the Loyalty Rank system was implemented. Had not spent a cent before that day. Have been playing since August 27th, 2012, with less than a handful of breaks. Now I've spent $70 and am now at Level 6, nearly halfway to 7th. Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service. - Let's squad up! 35m SP, all-around effective logi. o7
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1609	Posted - 2015.04.15 12:20:00 - [48] - Quote OMFG! I didn't get this thread until I read the DEV Blog. Soooo.... I bought 4 Templar sets, and put the spare 3 on ALTs, as it didn't make sense having them all on one account. This way I could play ALTs with BPOs once I had capped on this account. Now you say that because I never bought any AUR and didn't reach the crazy high "gametime" requirements to reach level 4, I will not be able to sell these items?! You gotta be frigging kidding me! So, what now? I gotta go illegal and sell the PSN accounts? If not, I gotta spend real money just to enable the sale of these items OR play each ALT for 2 years. FACEPALM Rare Item Trades
cray cray FISH Caught Me With My Pants Down 48	Posted - 2015.04.15 13:11:00 - [49] - Quote Wilhelm Klingspor wrote: cray cray FISH wrote: Wilhelm Klingspor wrote: cray cray FISH wrote: I don't know how the loyalty rank is sorted out, but my alt, which i have had since late 2013 is rank 3. That is zero aurum and minimal playing. How are people that play this game not rank 4?? Depends on your idea of minimal playing. In the 1 and a half years he has been active i have a total of 2500 kills on it. Which people are getting in a week... well no lifers. Having said that, apparently consecutive logins help loyalty rank, i log in most days, just dont play it. Fair enough, but i can't log in daily, because im off for work, off to some bar or flying my pterodactyl. Logging in and not playing seems pointless to me. I play casually and after 2 years i'm still somewhere between Terribad and awful at this game so kill-wise it won't be pretty too. This should not exclude me from trading though. Ah a bit of confusion, so this is my main, which i play most days, but both characters are on the same account so if i play dust at all, i will sign into my alt to get the login bonus (maybe, but rarely do some missions) first, then switch to cray and play. Although i will say i have played this game more than i have any other and without aurum after 2 years i am rank 5. .#Stormtrooper4life Team BD's Resident Fish
Nomed Deeps 480	Posted - 2015.04.15 13:35:00 - [50] - Quote I spent quite a bit of time playing this game and due to that I have purchased Aurum here and there. I did that because even though this game is free to play, I know it was not free to develop and is not free to maintain. That is why CCP has created small mechanisms to entice players to pay as all free to play games do. There are several free to play games though that have expansions or areas you cannot access unless you pay and I find such restrictions wrong as it is somewhat gamebreaking and not truly free to play. At least in DUST, you have access to everything without paying a cent; those that pay though get tiny advantages over those that don't which if you think about it is not that bad as it is those that pay that keep this game funded and going. I cannot be bought, but I can be leased.

VALCORE72 Vengeance Unbound RUST415 281	Posted - 2015.04.15 13:42:00 - [51] - Quote oh im a dumb arss . yea ive got 320$ and only LV 8 rank. might get 20 $ but after that not 1 cents till i see mtacs . asian haters united lol .
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3310	Posted - 2015.04.15 13:52:00 - [52] - Quote tieing it to loyalty rank reduces it to yet another paywall.... like all the other content that has been released with warlords. in case your all wondering PC will be reduced to a paywall as well as the "corperate" warbarge level will be dependant on the individual warbarges in your fleet wich are timelocked behind a paywall leaving you the option to wait a year to play PC with your corp or deny corp acess to anyone who doesnt have aprticular warbarge requirements . Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
abdullah muzaffar Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 540	Posted - 2015.04.15 14:04:00 - [53] - Quote Nolifing since 1.8, no aur spent. Atleast 5hrs weekdays, 8+weekends. Yes I have no life. Reached Rank 4 last month. IJR took my soul. RIP 20/3/15 5:14
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6242	Posted - 2015.04.15 14:33:00 - [54] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I think the fear of alts comes from the daily win giving a key thing? Idk it's stupid. Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? It does not matter if you salvaged anything on your alt. You can still say that you have 50 Officer HMG"s and ask for the money up front. Sure the guy will be pissed when you take his money, and sure he will tell everyone he knows not to trust you, but you can send the money to your main and delete your alt to replace it with a new alt with a untarnished reputation. If you have invested enough effort or AUR to get a character to Loyalty Rank 4, then that character is no longer disposable. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1146	Posted - 2015.04.15 14:39:00 - [55] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I think the fear of alts comes from the daily win giving a key thing? Idk it's stupid. Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? It does not matter if you salvaged anything on your alt. You can still say that you have 50 Officer HMG"s and ask for the money up front. Sure the guy will be pissed when you take his money, and sure he will tell everyone he knows not to trust you, but you can send the money to your main and delete your alt to replace it with a new alt with a untarnished reputation. If you have invested enough effort or AUR to get a character to Loyalty Rank 4, then that character is no longer disposable. Then CCP can just trace the master account and identify the main character. Oh, and all 5 of my alts are rank 4 or 5, so I guess they're not disposable? Selling Items Store - Code Bazaar
Ras Orloc Bloody Palm Militia 43	Posted - 2015.04.15 14:44:00 - [56] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: OMFG! I didn't get this thread until I read the DEV Blog. Soooo.... I bought 4 Templar sets, and put the spare 3 on ALTs, as it didn't make sense having them all on one account. This way I could play ALTs with BPOs once I had capped on this account. Now you say that because I never bought any AUR and didn't reach the crazy high "gametime" requirements to reach level 4, I will not be able to sell these items?! You gotta be frigging kidding me! So, what now? I gotta go illegal and sell the PSN accounts? If not, I gotta spend real money just to enable the sale of these items OR play each ALT for 2 years. FACEPALM ^
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6242	Posted - 2015.04.15 14:50:00 - [57] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: Been playing for a year. Got to rank three than the LAV BPO bundle came out...... Now I feel stupid for buying them... a single AV grenade can kill the things.... Try putting two Shield extenders and an Armor plate on it. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2664	Posted - 2015.04.15 14:51:00 - [58] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: tieing it to loyalty rank reduces it to yet another paywall.... like all the other content that has been released with warlords. in case your all wondering PC will be reduced to a paywall as well as the "corperate" warbarge level will be dependant on the individual warbarges in your fleet wich are timelocked behind a paywall leaving you the option to wait a year to play PC with your corp or deny corp acess to anyone who doesnt have aprticular warbarge requirements . Agree. Also i think the restriction is working against player retention and the NPE. Assuming a player is attracted to Dust in the first place, or assuming a player randomly downloads the game, it's prolly not the traditional shooter elements that keep that player in the game. Almost certainly not given the range of broken systems, poor mechanics, etc. The player is sticking around because there are ideas and systems in Dust that make the game something more than 'just another poorly implemented f2p shooter'. Imo gating those engaging systems behind a paywall or a time-played wall effectively ostracizes noobs from gameplay, and using Loyalty Rank is a mistake. We definitely do need anit-scamming controls, but what Rattati has proposed with Loyalty Rank will hurt the NPE as well as the veteran player experience. What he's proposing is basically the same old vets trading with the same old vets(and not even all the vets). I'd wager players are leaving the game faster that they are attaining LR 4. PSN: RationalSpark
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6242	Posted - 2015.04.15 14:52:00 - [59] - Quote ANAHEIM Darko wrote: VALCORE72 wrote: yes its possible but you have to grind your arss off . first week fw came out thats all i did . made 40000 lp. was great with the pay outs . im lv 9 now and still need 6000 pts to 10. few months yet . lv 10 dont mean sht anyway lol. just saying it is possible just be rdy to grind your arss off . Thats faction loyalty rank. The ranking to which trading refers is the generic one based on logins, games, warpoints and aurum purchased. I think. Although, if it was Loyalty Rank 4 or Factional Loyalty Rank of 4 that might solve the same problem and provide an option for people who don't want to spend AUR. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
DUST Fiend 16389	Posted - 2015.04.15 14:54:00 - [60] - Quote DUST has a LOT of features where the weak stay weaker and the strong grow stronger. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe

Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1787	Posted - 2015.04.15 15:46:00 - [61] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: tieing it to loyalty rank reduces it to yet another paywall.... like all the other content that has been released with warlords. in case your all wondering PC will be reduced to a paywall as well as the "corperate" warbarge level will be dependant on the individual warbarges in your fleet wich are timelocked behind a paywall leaving you the option to wait a year to play PC with your corp or deny corp acess to anyone who doesnt have aprticular warbarge requirements . Agree. Also i think the restriction is working against player retention and the NPE. Assuming a player is attracted to Dust in the first place, or assuming a player randomly downloads the game, it's prolly not the traditional shooter elements that keep that player in the game. Almost certainly not given the range of broken systems, poor mechanics, etc. The player is sticking around because there are ideas and systems in Dust that make the game something more than 'just another poorly implemented f2p shooter'. Imo gating those engaging systems behind a paywall or a time-played wall effectively ostracizes noobs from gameplay, and using Loyalty Rank is a mistake. We definitely do need anit-scamming controls, but what Rattati has proposed with Loyalty Rank will hurt the NPE as well as the veteran player experience. What he's proposing is basically the same old vets trading with the same old vets(and not even all the vets). I'd wager players are leaving the game faster that they are attaining LR 4. started when sony handed out 5000 keys to stress test dust 514 servers played every day till 1.7 tanks deleted when harry potter villa aka cloaks my rank was 2? or 3? lol no time for dust 514 preorder The Witcher 3 sorry
The KTM DuKe Dead Man's Game RUST415 114	Posted - 2015.04.15 15:55:00 - [62] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: So, you are level 4 or higher and never spent a cent? How long have you been playing? Straight forward question. Sincerely curious. Well, speak up. http://dustboard.com/global/merc/The_KTM_DuKe . Level 5, no aur bought P2T = Pay to Trade
ROTFL Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:23:00 - [63] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Avinash Decker wrote: Pretty much guarantee that new players won't get to participate . I understand the reasoning, but its pretty stupid. Not many people is going to pay for a basic feature that many rpg online games already have from the get-go. Name the free to play persistent shooters that do DEFIANCE! Knowing is half the battle! The other half involves guns! GI JOE!
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1607	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:26:00 - [64] - Quote With 5 dollars and being here since beta I think I'm 5 and am going into 6 soon(Tm) Or I'm 4going into 5. Not sure which but I'll check later today. Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
DDx77 The Exemplars 195	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:33:00 - [65] - Quote I just made level 4 like 3 weeks ago Been playing for over a year 35 mil sp I have not spent a cent on this game May the Dark shine your way
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 2698	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:44:00 - [66] - Quote Let me check... im loyalty rank five, bought sever BPO not long after introduction, then just bought merc pack yesterday. But ive been rank four for a while now so not intentionally to increase my LR. Scout prone to rage holding a shotgun, knives, and REs Snake Eyes>All You only see me when i want you to see me
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 759	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:54:00 - [67] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: So, you are level 4 or higher and never spent a cent? How long have you been playing? Straight forward question. Sincerely curious. Well, speak up. Speaking for myself, at this point Id just like to say this..... If you havent contributed one red cent to the development,implementation,server maintenance of this game what makes that person believe they could complain about anything ? They have bought nothing therefore receive nothing and .....why would they then complain to customer service? Just sayin Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 683	Posted - 2015.04.15 17:01:00 - [68] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: DUST has a LOT of features where the weak stay weaker and the strong grow stronger. Gotta love those Orbital Bombardements. There is an anti-balance feature on every layer of the game. Like a fractal; a landslide on a slippery slope of slick ice, during a storm, on a vertical approach up an overhang cliff, in the stratosphere, with icepicks and oxygen tanks bought through Aurum and a free balloon for squads. And yes, Dust is actually rather tame in its pay to win aspect. Doesn't change the fact that there's always a mechanic holding you down, from the entry requirements to trading, to the inability to get into FW (and thus earn APEX suits) for certain groups of players, to the aforementioned orbital bombardements.
thehellisgoingon MONSTER SYNERGY 428	Posted - 2015.04.15 18:26:00 - [69] - Quote Hahaha finally an update for people that matter in this game. Ccp just gave all new players the middle finger lmao!!!
Unrequited Love Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:03:00 - [70] - Quote Been playing since September. Level 2. I'm not bitter.

Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 378	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:18:00 - [71] - Quote I was level 4 when the loyalty thing came out, I'll be level 5 soon. 45M SP playing since August 2013 but with many pauses until February 2014.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet General Tso's Alliance 222	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:27:00 - [72] - Quote I'm not going to lie I just reached level 11 !!! However I've spent enough on this game buying boosters and Aurum you'd think I had a monthly subscription =ƒÿé
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2015.04.15 22:44:00 - [73] - Quote I'm an about 2 year character with the EVE pack applied, and last I looked I was still only lvl 1 going to 2, or do you start at 1? In which case 2 going to 3. Hardly a 'hard core' player, but blocking someone like me from player trading isn't 'blocking exploits'. It's locking stuff behind a pay 2 win firewall. Since the ability to trade on the market is a massive advantage for getting the gear you want.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1626	Posted - 2015.04.15 23:49:00 - [74] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: OMFG! I didn't get this thread until I read the DEV Blog. Soooo.... I bought 4 Templar sets, and put the spare 3 on ALTs, as it didn't make sense having them all on one account. This way I could play ALTs with BPOs once I had capped on this account. Now you say that because I never bought any AUR on those ALTs and didn't reach the crazy high "gametime" requirements to reach level 4, I will not be able to sell these items?! You gotta be frigging kidding me! So, what now? I gotta go illegal and sell the PSN accounts? If not, I gotta spend real money just to enable the sale of these items OR play each ALT for 2 years. FACEPALM AFTERTHOUGHT: How about you (CCP) tell me how much AUR it takes to get to level 4 with AUR alone, then check how much AUR I spent on THIS account.... then tell me why I can't trade from my ALTs! If it's -ú25, then I should be granted trading abilities for at least 4 ALTs! Added afterthought ^ Rare Item Trades
thehellisgoingon MONSTER SYNERGY 431	Posted - 2015.04.16 02:09:00 - [75] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: OMFG! I didn't get this thread until I read the DEV Blog. Soooo.... I bought 4 Templar sets, and put the spare 3 on ALTs, as it didn't make sense having them all on one account. This way I could play ALTs with BPOs once I had capped on this account. Now you say that because I never bought any AUR on those ALTs and didn't reach the crazy high "gametime" requirements to reach level 4, I will not be able to sell these items?! You gotta be frigging kidding me! So, what now? I gotta go illegal and sell the PSN accounts? If not, I gotta spend real money just to enable the sale of these items OR play each ALT for 2 years. FACEPALM AFTERTHOUGHT: How about you (CCP) tell me how much AUR it takes to get to level 4 with AUR alone, then check how much AUR I spent on THIS account.... then tell me why I can't trade from my ALTs! If it's -ú25, then I should be granted trading abilities for at least 4 ALTs! were you scared the boogy man Would steal your codes? And how much did u pay for them? I just wanna laugh some more. Man. Your screwed
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1632	Posted - 2015.04.16 09:41:00 - [76] - Quote thehellisgoingon wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: OMFG! I didn't get this thread until I read the DEV Blog. Soooo.... I bought 4 Templar sets, and put the spare 3 on ALTs, as it didn't make sense having them all on one account. This way I could play ALTs with BPOs once I had capped on this account. Now you say that because I never bought any AUR on those ALTs and didn't reach the crazy high "gametime" requirements to reach level 4, I will not be able to sell these items?! You gotta be frigging kidding me! So, what now? I gotta go illegal and sell the PSN accounts? If not, I gotta spend real money just to enable the sale of these items OR play each ALT for 2 years. FACEPALM AFTERTHOUGHT: How about you (CCP) tell me how much AUR it takes to get to level 4 with AUR alone, then check how much AUR I spent on THIS account.... then tell me why I can't trade from my ALTs! If it's -ú25, then I should be granted trading abilities for at least 4 ALTs! were you scared the boogy man Would steal your codes? And how much did u pay for them? I just wanna laugh some more. Man. Your screwed No, I had 9 codes total. I sold some and wanted to save some for player trading. Carry on laughing, it's all good. Only paid ISK for them EVE side, and not the ridiculous amounts people sold them in DUST for. 'LR4-Trading' Protester
dust 514 shadow Eternal Beings 9	Posted - 2015.04.16 11:31:00 - [77] - Quote yes, I have been playing for around 2 years. I'm rank 7. I have 19 mil sp lol lol lol lol lol. I'm not joking.
dust 514 shadow Eternal Beings 9	Posted - 2015.04.16 11:37:00 - [78] - Quote I'm rank 7 and I've only bought arum once and I also bought a pack once.
IVIaster LUKE Art.of.Death 793	Posted - 2015.04.16 13:22:00 - [79] - Quote I purchased to many BPO's to count. Rank 13. CCP, I want my Heavy Shield Transport BPO back. Caldari Bolt pistol my @ss. It was created for Heavies. Don't fear the Reaper. =ƒÆÇ
SirManBoy Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 872	Posted - 2015.04.16 14:53:00 - [80] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. #1 - Unlimited newbro boosters #2 - Unlimited newsletter goodies #3 - Experimental weapon production abuse #4 - Win a daily mission, get a golden key abuse And what if I wanted to purchase warbarge components from people? Alts ruin that possibility as well because they allow individuals to have insane production capabilities across multiple warbarges.

Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 888	Posted - 2015.04.16 15:05:00 - [81] - Quote People who think alt farming is a problem should be taken out back behind the barn and put out of their misery. Component farming is one exception, but honestly, for someone to alt farm for experimental gear they would have to dump thousands into this damn game, which should make CCP happy. Otherwise it is limited to isk and the occasional oficcer gear. So what?? My alts have a whopping one or two of an officer suit and MAYBE a couple of officer weapons. Can you really call it farming if I will literally never get any of that on another alt? The only way to farm weapons would be to continually make accounts, use the newsletter link for 4 of each, and then repeat that over and over. If someone is that damned determined, I say let that crazy fool have his bloody weapons. Rattati, ffs man, I had hope for you, but recently you are nothing but disappointment after disappointment. For every great innovation there is a pint of poison that corrupts it all. Also, gold keys aren't even worth farming. Boxes still give crap rewards most of the time. I'm Awesome F*cking Pantaloons, and your d!ck is about to get caught in my zipper >:[
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1637	Posted - 2015.04.16 15:07:00 - [82] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: People who think alt farming is a problem should be taken out back behind the barn and put out of their misery. Component farming is one exception, but honestly, for someone to alt farm for experimental gear they would have to dump thousands into this damn game, which should make CCP happy. Otherwise it is limited to isk and the occasional oficcer gear. So what?? My alts have a whopping one or two of an officer suit and MAYBE a couple of officer weapons. Can you really call it farming if I will literally never get any of that on another alt? The only way to farm weapons would be to continually make accounts, use the newsletter link for 4 of each, and then repeat that over and over. If someone is that damned determined, I say let that crazy fool have his bloody weapons. Rattati, ffs man, I had hope for you, but recently you are nothing but disappointment after disappointment. For every great innovation there is a pint of poison that corrupts it all. Also, gold keys aren't even worth farming. Boxes still give crap rewards most of the time. THANK YOU! Finally, someone with some sense. 'LR4-Trading' Protester
SLIM123121 VERSION 2 global conquest 1	Posted - 2015.04.16 15:25:00 - [83] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Wish they got rid of the restriction entirely. I mean, so what if I have alts? I couldn't have salvaged anything on them unless I actually played on them, right? You could alt farm boosters and maybe a BPO or two. there are at least 3 more exploits that are also under my microscope that are alleviated with this method. I'm gonna guess. 1). Booster 2). BPOs 3). Frontline -II 4). Defender -II 5). Warbage Components 6). Keys
Kayla Michael Tactical Logistics and Cargo 101	Posted - 2015.04.16 16:46:00 - [84] - Quote I'm like a level 6, I've spent approximately over $100, because of my obsession for valuables.. and because I love this game and the rest of the EVE Universe. I've been playing DUST 514 since it's Open Beta release when PlayStation Home was around at that time; approximately 2 - 3 Years(?) I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. `~`
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1107	Posted - 2015.04.16 16:48:00 - [85] - Quote Playing since 1.4, no money spent, rank 4.
Nirwanda Vaughns 1622	Posted - 2015.04.16 17:01:00 - [86] - Quote As i mentioned in the sticky. perhaps instead of a specifici loyalty rank have it where trading becomes available after 90days of being created OR if you purchase Jara it opens it up immediatly Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9291	Posted - 2015.04.16 17:05:00 - [87] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: People who think alt farming is a problem should be taken out back behind the barn and put out of their misery. Component farming is one exception, but honestly, for someone to alt farm for experimental gear they would have to dump thousands into this damn game, which should make CCP happy. Otherwise it is limited to isk and the occasional oficcer gear. So what?? My alts have a whopping one or two of an officer suit and MAYBE a couple of officer weapons. Can you really call it farming if I will literally never get any of that on another alt? The only way to farm weapons would be to continually make accounts, use the newsletter link for 4 of each, and then repeat that over and over. If someone is that damned determined, I say let that crazy fool have his bloody weapons. Rattati, ffs man, I had hope for you, but recently you are nothing but disappointment after disappointment. For every great innovation there is a pint of poison that corrupts it all. Also, gold keys aren't even worth farming. Boxes still give crap rewards most of the time. THANK YOU! Finally, someone with some sense. Yeah so, remember all those newsletters? Make an alt, grab all the free newsletter goodies, send to main character, delete alt. Repeat until you are balls deep in boosters and officer weapons. Anyone who can't see how this can easily be exploited needs to be humanely euthanize with a tomahawk @Ripley_Riley
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1638	Posted - 2015.04.16 17:32:00 - [88] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Anyone who can't see how this can easily be exploited needs to be humanely euthanize with a tomahawk I know, I have covered all the exploits in another thread. Remember all that passive ISK gained in PC exploits? Mhmm. Tough! They just need to stop giving away tradeable items in future newsletters. You can't retroactively claim the old rewards unless your character was made before said reward was given out, so making an ALT now will gain you nothing. Yeah so, don't think I don't understand the farming implications. I just DGAF! 'LR4-Trading' Protester
abdullah muzaffar Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 545	Posted - 2015.04.16 18:33:00 - [89] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: As i mentioned in the sticky. perhaps instead of a specifici loyalty rank have it where trading becomes available after 90days of being created OR if you purchase Jara it opens it up immediatly This. Though iwpuld like it to be lowered to 2 months. IJR took my soul. RIP 20/3/15 5:14
Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 890	Posted - 2015.04.16 19:16:00 - [90] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: People who think alt farming is a problem should be taken out back behind the barn and put out of their misery. Component farming is one exception, but honestly, for someone to alt farm for experimental gear they would have to dump thousands into this damn game, which should make CCP happy. Otherwise it is limited to isk and the occasional oficcer gear. So what?? My alts have a whopping one or two of an officer suit and MAYBE a couple of officer weapons. Can you really call it farming if I will literally never get any of that on another alt? The only way to farm weapons would be to continually make accounts, use the newsletter link for 4 of each, and then repeat that over and over. If someone is that damned determined, I say let that crazy fool have his bloody weapons. Rattati, ffs man, I had hope for you, but recently you are nothing but disappointment after disappointment. For every great innovation there is a pint of poison that corrupts it all. Also, gold keys aren't even worth farming. Boxes still give crap rewards most of the time. THANK YOU! Finally, someone with some sense. Yeah so, remember all those newsletters? Make an alt, grab all the free newsletter goodies, send to main character, delete alt. Repeat until you are balls deep in boosters and officer weapons. Anyone who can't see how this can easily be exploited needs to be humanely euthanize with a tomahawk That's just it though. Who is so pathetic that they would go to such lengths?? It is on a per-account basis, not per-character. Not worth the effort, really. I'm Awesome F*cking Pantaloons, and your d!ck is about to get caught in my zipper >:[

Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 725	Posted - 2015.04.16 19:20:00 - [91] - Quote The only people that will complain about the loyalty 4 rank, are those with alts they want to exploit that have not made it that high yet. Which is why lvl 4 loyalty rank is perfect c: The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9346	Posted - 2015.04.16 19:21:00 - [92] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: That's just it though. Who is so pathetic that they would go to such lengths?? It is on a per-account basis, not per-character. Not worth the effort, really. For free officer gear and boosters? People have done more for less before. Do you know how many people out there already have 2 or 3 alt accounts they made with their sibling's account or something? @Ripley_Riley
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4325	Posted - 2015.04.16 19:51:00 - [93] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: People who think alt farming is a problem should be taken out back behind the barn and put out of their misery. Component farming is one exception, but honestly, for someone to alt farm for experimental gear they would have to dump thousands into this damn game, which should make CCP happy. Otherwise it is limited to isk and the occasional oficcer gear. So what?? My alts have a whopping one or two of an officer suit and MAYBE a couple of officer weapons. Can you really call it farming if I will literally never get any of that on another alt? The only way to farm weapons would be to continually make accounts, use the newsletter link for 4 of each, and then repeat that over and over. If someone is that damned determined, I say let that crazy fool have his bloody weapons. Rattati, ffs man, I had hope for you, but recently you are nothing but disappointment after disappointment. For every great innovation there is a pint of poison that corrupts it all. Also, gold keys aren't even worth farming. Boxes still give crap rewards most of the time. THANK YOU! Finally, someone with some sense. Yeah so, remember all those newsletters? Make an alt, grab all the free newsletter goodies, send to main character, delete alt. Repeat until you are balls deep in boosters and officer weapons. Anyone who can't see how this can easily be exploited needs to be humanely euthanize with a tomahawk That's just it though. Who is so pathetic that they would go to such lengths?? It is on a per-account basis, not per-character. Not worth the effort, really. Based on the numbers? Many, many people. Or maybe just a couple of dudes who are disturbingly dedicated to having 10k of everything, who knows Point is these measures weren't taken based on a "what if" but rather in response to recorded preexisting trends of behavior. CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19319	Posted - 2015.04.16 19:53:00 - [94] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Avinash Decker wrote: Pretty much guarantee that new players won't get to participate . I understand the reasoning, but its pretty stupid. Not many people is going to pay for a basic feature that many rpg online games already have from the get-go. Name the free to play persistent shooters that do Talking about any kind popular and kinda relevant ones? Firefall Some others I know of: Global Agenda Defiance Tabula Rasa( when it was out) Warframe Also unless you count those fps survival game persistent; nearly all of them in some form. And possibly when the Division comes out and when star citizen and elite dangerous gets their FPS portions. Development stopped for GA and they too had a red wedding equivalent the game is near dead with market boards empty. Firefall trading is a convulsed bit of mess that almost always seems to trap you into buying premium currencies on accident as confusing as the whole market there is. Its like they did on purpose to make it hard. Warframe the most popular you listed only lets you trade select items or premiums currency and they have a hefty trade cost. Star Citizen will likely never go free to play Elite Dangerous is also not free to play. Division also likely not going to be free to play. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1147	Posted - 2015.04.16 19:58:00 - [95] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: The only people that will complain about the loyalty 4 rank, are those with alts they want to exploit that have not made it that high yet. Which is why lvl 4 loyalty rank is perfect c: Dude i've never bothered with alts, been playing since chromosme, and never felt like buying any aurum. Stuck at loyalty rank 3 Should Legion be on the ps4?
Eldest Dragon Nos Nothi 481	Posted - 2015.04.16 20:22:00 - [96] - Quote Jw what are you called at loyalty rank 8 ?
Koldy Lyte Marven DUST University Ivy League 53	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:14:00 - [97] - Quote CCP, if you are that afraid of ALTs, why did you make them available? I don't have an officila ALT. Everyday, I create a new character so I can go in the academy and have some fun, then I delete that dude... ( -í° -£-û -í°)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11497	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:23:00 - [98] - Quote Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: CCP, if you are that afraid of ALTs, why did you make them available? I don't have an officila ALT. Everyday, I create a new character so I can go in the academy and have some fun, then I delete that dude... 1. Because allowing alts in a single account is standard practice in the MMO industry. Remember that Dust is still technically an MMO regardless of how you look at it. 2. Stop doing that. You are not helping your cause by doing that with your alts. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy


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