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pheonex 007 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 3	Posted - 2015.04.13 11:10:00 - [1] - Quote it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP
Spaceman-Rob Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 789	Posted - 2015.04.13 11:17:00 - [2] - Quote Totally agree the gun is ridiculous, it needs nerfing.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 264	Posted - 2015.04.13 11:24:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah,yeah its getting a nerf, Rattati said so already so quit crying you baby. Finding new stuff to watch is nice,like Rwby~
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1183	Posted - 2015.04.13 11:25:00 - [4] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Yeah,yeah its getting a nerf, Rattati said so already so quit crying you baby. No one is crying dude. Simply pointing out the obvious.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 264	Posted - 2015.04.13 11:34:00 - [5] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Yeah,yeah its getting a nerf, Rattati said so already so quit crying you baby. No one is crying dude. Simply pointing out the obvious. OP has emoticons on his post to prove you wrong Finding new stuff to watch is nice,like Rwby~
Powerh8er Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 718	Posted - 2015.04.13 11:40:00 - [6] - Quote I have better solution: Buff the other guns. Arent there enough pea shooters in dust? Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 264	Posted - 2015.04.13 11:42:00 - [7] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: I have better solution: Buff the other guns. Arent there enough pea shooters in dust? I don't mind buffing other weapons but I do mind when the GD forum turns into a bucket of tears Finding new stuff to watch is nice,like Rwby~
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1249	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:22:00 - [8] - Quote SCR IS OP! NERF IT RR IS OP! NERF IT CR IS OP! NERF IT SG IS OP! NERF IT HMG IS OP! NERF IT BP IS OP! NERF IT NERF EVERYTHING. But heey crying please buff stuff that i use crying. Can you see the allusion? Caldari Loyalist thecreaturehub fan Mejt0 Sale List
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9099	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:26:00 - [9] - Quote The ScR is a laser weapon. It is designed to completely destroy shields. Caldari are, say it with me... SHIELD tankers. Explain to me why the laser weapon, a weapon designed to be strong vs. shields and weak vs. armor, shouldn't be able to burn down Caldari dropsuits... @Ripley_Riley
tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 461	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:50:00 - [10] - Quote There are just a lot of people using scramblers. If all of those players were using ARs, this would be a 'CCPZ, nerf ARs' thread. Not that the gun isn't 'op', it certainly is marginally better than other guns in its class. However, that doesn't matter much in the end. Your play style is universally to blame for any deaths you incur, with the occasional exception of elevated lag. Use cover, fight in pairs, and take ownership of your weaknesses.

Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 6041	Posted - 2015.04.13 13:00:00 - [11] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: There are just a lot of people using scramblers. If all of those players were using ARs, this would be a 'CCPZ, nerf ARs' thread. Not that the gun isn't 'op', it certainly is marginally better than other guns in its class. However, that doesn't matter much in the end. Your play style is universally to blame for any deaths you incur, with the occasional exception of elevated lag. Use cover, fight in pairs, and take ownership of your weaknesses. Best post in this thread. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1251	Posted - 2015.04.13 13:06:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: There are just a lot of people using scramblers. If all of those players were using ARs, this would be a 'CCPZ, nerf ARs' thread. Not that the gun isn't 'op', it certainly is marginally better than other guns in its class. However, that doesn't matter much in the end. Your play style is universally to blame for any deaths you incur, with the occasional exception of elevated lag. Use cover, fight in pairs, and take ownership of your weaknesses. Best post in this thread. Except this sentence. ScR isn't very popular compared to other rifles. Same goes for number of ScR users per battle. It's never more than few for both teams. Caldari Loyalist thecreaturehub fan Mejt0 Sale List
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 264	Posted - 2015.04.13 13:10:00 - [13] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: There are just a lot of people using scramblers. If all of those players were using ARs, this would be a 'CCPZ, nerf ARs' thread. Not that the gun isn't 'op', it certainly is marginally better than other guns in its class. However, that doesn't matter much in the end. Your play style is universally to blame for any deaths you incur, with the occasional exception of elevated lag. Use cover, fight in pairs, and take ownership of your weaknesses. Best post in this thread. Except this sentence. ScR isn't very popular compared to other rifles. Same goes for number of ScR users per battle. It's never more than few for both teams. OP probably tried to do CQC with a call assault so it gave him the illusion that there are more ScR than there really is Finding new stuff to watch is nice,like Rwby~
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars 336	Posted - 2015.04.13 13:13:00 - [14] - Quote ^ ^ yeah that is a nice post. you will die sometimes regardless because of the chaos of battle. But your playstyle and cunning will reduce that a lot, the reduction depends on how well your enemies use the chaos of war to there advantage. The more players in a certain space, the higher the chaos factor, the harder it is to determine how strong a weapon is because the situations you get yourself in are based on so many players actions including your own that things can be confusing, such as a HMG looking like its UP compared to a Burst CR at 10m engagements on a caldari assault with jump mods etc. The situations change so much so quickly sometimes, for some players, that they feel like they cant adapt or figure out a solution to a problem because of the unpredictable chaos factor. It can give them a skewered view on things sometimes. Other times when not many players can find a reliable solution, you can arguably say a weapon might be OP. Other times you can argue player coordination allows a team to have too much control over causing chaos for the enemy.lol
pheonex 007 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 4	Posted - 2015.04.13 13:41:00 - [15] - Quote hmm so u people think except those fine people supporting me a CARTHIUM assault scrambler can take out a gal gk.0 FROM 27meter range in a cqc ? almost instantaneously thats bull **** u guys must have skill up ino the scr a lot so you are scared if they nerf it again yu need grind to gain sp for another weapon :3
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 476	Posted - 2015.04.13 13:50:00 - [16] - Quote OP be like Ima take my Regen Fit against this Assault ak.0 who has a 141% Effectiveness to my shields! (I think it's 141 after proficiency?) Death by laser is imminent
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9103	Posted - 2015.04.13 13:55:00 - [17] - Quote Forced Death wrote: I think it's 141 after proficiency? It's 135% 100 + 20 (laser damage profile) + 15 (weapon proficiency) @Ripley_Riley
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 264	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:03:00 - [18] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: hmm so u people think except those fine people supporting me a CARTHIUM assault scrambler can take out a gal gk.0 FROM 27meter range in a cqc ? almost instantaneously thats bull **** u guys must have skill up ino the scr a lot so you are scared if they nerf it again yu need grind to gain sp for another weapon :3 I have every weapon proto'd already except the swarms, sure ill agree the Carthum became powerful but it was meant to make it viable, the buffing was too much. only for Carthum to take out a Gk.0 almost instantaneously is if it had ehp of around 600 and less. Literally any proto weapon can do that. Finding new stuff to watch is nice,like Rwby~
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 722	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:35:00 - [19] - Quote It is not OP. You some how failed to realize that it's a shield proficient weapon and your crying about it wrecking your shield based suit...? That's like being allergic to peanut butter, then wonder why the f**k you stop breathing when you eat a pb&j sammich ._. I also run the Caldari Assault as well as the Amarr Assault. The scrambler kills my Caldari like the rail rifle kills my Amarr. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Alena Ventrallis Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 3008	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:37:00 - [20] - Quote An anti-shield weapon is really good at killing your shield suits. Huh, imagine that. Whirly gun make much thunder! - Victor

Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 265	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:38:00 - [21] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: It is not OP. That's like being allergic to peanut butter, then wonder why the f**k you stop breathing when you eat a pb&j sammich ._. I laughed Finding new stuff to watch is nice,like Rwby~
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix RUST415 783	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:57:00 - [22] - Quote Problem with it is just how much damage it can churn out in a small amount of time. Once that gets lowered it will be fine.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10106	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:02:00 - [23] - Quote Echo is right. I shouldn't be this afraid of basic scramblers on suits that aren't Amarr but here I am, running from scrambler rifles like they're explosive rifles. That'd be like an shield suit loosing his ** at the sight of a magsec SMG As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP**
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9108	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:05:00 - [24] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Echo is right. I shouldn't be this afraid of basic scramblers on suits that aren't Amarr but here I am, running from scrambler rifles like they're explosive rifles. That'd be like an shield suit loosing his **** at the sight of a magsec SMG Sgt Kirk, I was under the impression that you were not a bad. How are you scared of a ScR? I have ScR prof V, three light damage mods, and when I empty rounds into an armor dropsuit it is like punching a rhino in the ass: it just upsets the rhino. @Ripley_Riley
Regnier Feros Pielords 301	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:12:00 - [25] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: hmm so u people think except those fine people supporting me a CARTHIUM assault scrambler can take out a gal gk.0 FROM 27meter range in a cqc ? almost instantaneously thats bull **** u guys must have skill up ino the scr a lot so you are scared if they nerf it again yu need grind to gain sp for another weapon :3 You might be confused. Carthum = full auto Viziam = semi auto Majority of the complaints come from the viziam. "You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 265	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:15:00 - [26] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: pheonex 007 wrote: hmm so u people think except those fine people supporting me a CARTHIUM assault scrambler can take out a gal gk.0 FROM 27meter range in a cqc ? almost instantaneously thats bull **** u guys must have skill up ino the scr a lot so you are scared if they nerf it again yu need grind to gain sp for another weapon :3 You might be confused. Carthum = full auto Viziam = semi auto Majority of the complaints come from the viziam. It's the Carthum recently due to the buff These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4473	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:30:00 - [27] - Quote The weapon itself isn't OP. It's the fact that it can be abused with a Turbo controller. It also performs far too well outside of its intended role. It needs to be adjusted to not work so well from close range and somehow stop the turbo controller abuse. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 266	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:34:00 - [28] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: The weapon itself isn't OP. It's the fact that it can be abused with a Turbo controller. It also performs far too well outside of its intended role. It needs to be adjusted to not work so well from close range and somehow stop the turbo controller abuse. Basically increase spread to discourage CQC usage. I don't know about the turbo controllers though These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1603	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:39:00 - [29] - Quote The AScR is over performing too well, it's simply an easy mode of the tactical variant. It's damage needs to be toned down. Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 267	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:43:00 - [30] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: The AScR is over performing too well, it's simply an easy mode of the tactical variant. It's damage needs to be toned down. Yeah, the damage increase should have only been 10% These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!

thehellisgoingon MONSTER SYNERGY 424	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:47:00 - [31] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It is very op when you run a proto scr with 2-3 complex damage mods. Wb damage at 5% (25k wbc!?!?!) . And proficiency 5. Btw it's shield based weaponry. It feels op cuz it kills your shield in 1 charge shot. Yea working as intended bud. The SCR dose not factor in your strafing skills. I have the templar stuff and I hate how good it is.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10106	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:51:00 - [32] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Echo is right. I shouldn't be this afraid of basic scramblers on suits that aren't Amarr but here I am, running from scrambler rifles like they're explosive rifles. That'd be like an shield suit loosing his ** at the sight of a magsec SMG Sgt Kirk, I was under the impression that you were not a bad. How are you scared of a ScR? I have ScR prof V, three light damage mods, and when I empty rounds into an armor dropsuit it is like punching a rhino in the ass: it just upsets the rhino. If you don't kill a person with that plus damage mods I wouldn't be assuming other guys are "bads", unless you're hitting sentinels, at that point its a "duh" moment. As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP**
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1603	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:51:00 - [33] - Quote It's armor damage profiles need to be changed or something else at least, I've been killed in mere moments by both the viziam and carthum with 600 armor and getting shot with 50-70+ damage per shot from a viziam and just a stream of continued damage of about 10-25 damage from a carthum Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 267	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:54:00 - [34] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: It's armor damage profiles need to be changed or something else at least, I've been killed in mere moments by both the viziam and carthum with 600 armor and getting shot with 50-70+ damage per shot from a viziam and just a stream of continued damage of about 10-25 damage from a carthum 41 base damage actually, it's why I don't like using it These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!
Poison Diego Vengeance Unbound RUST415 588	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:57:00 - [35] - Quote Ok its a shield weapon but how do you explain that you cant go head to head and beat the amarr using armor weapon against them, like ever. Even though you armor tank the living trash outta your suit. Also gallente never has a chance against them, still their weapon is only -10% to armor Im not a bad player but if Im facing a competitive slayer on the other side using the amarr with a viziam, its ridiculous, but I have to deploy in my identical one. Nýja Eden er bara byrjunin.
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1603	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:00:00 - [36] - Quote What if it was a +10/-15(or -20) profile Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 267	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:01:00 - [37] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: What if it was a +10/-15(or -20) profile Then the gun would be broken I think I'm not sure though it could work for all I know but people want it to be +15/-15 These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1603	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:05:00 - [38] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: knight guard fury wrote: What if it was a +10/-15(or -20) profile Then the gun would be broken I think I'm not sure though it could work for all I know but people want it to be +15/-15 If only we had test servers... Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 528	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:06:00 - [39] - Quote the scram rifles main issues is A: its high base damage means its -20% to armour still wont affect its ttk too much since it really isn't losing too much damage. ifn the profile was -30 or 35% THEN it would be noticble and struggle to melt armour. could be applied to the base variant......we all hate how stong that charged shot is even without damage mods. the assault variant really only needs its base damage nerfed down. B: the turbo controller....................enough said C: feed back damge of 25..............could be higher................it gets all this damage......short over heat time.. compare to the laser: 125 feedback....LONG cooldown even with lvl 5 operation. increase feedback to 75-90 damage to punish for over heat...and anoy turbo users. slightly increase overheat time. (prevent's....hinders...makes bad choice for cqc) D: the charged shot damage......................this is way too high. should have higher heat cost. to make it more risk/reward for landing the hit. prevents single round spam from lasting too long. E: clip size feels slightly too big, heat built per shot also feels to low compared to how many rounds/accumulated damage can be applied. F: shield suits using the scram rifle...............really..... I could go on but I feel these are its main issues. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 267	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:10:00 - [40] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: the scram rifles main issues is A: its high base damage means its -20% to armour still wont affect its ttk too much since it really isn't losing too much damage. ifn the profile was -30 or 35% THEN it would be noticble and struggle to melt armour. could be applied to the base variant......we all hate how stong that charged shot is even without damage mods. the assault variant really only needs its base damage nerfed down. B: the turbo controller....................enough said C: feed back damge of 25..............could be higher................it gets all this damage......short over heat time.. compare to the laser: 125 feedback....LONG cooldown even with lvl 5 operation. increase feedback to 75-90 damage to punish for over heat...and anoy turbo users. slightly increase overheat time. (prevent's....hinders...makes bad choice for cqc) D: the charged shot damage......................this is way too high. should have higher heat cost. to make it more risk/reward for landing the hit. prevents single round spam from lasting too long. E: clip size feels slightly too big, heat built per shot also feels to low compared to how many rounds/accumulated damage can be applied. F: shield suits using the scram rifle...............really..... I could go on but I feel these are its main issues. If I remember correctly, Rattati mentioned to decrease normal shot damage but keep or increase charge damage to reward accuracy. If I can find the thread again I will link it to you Edit: I found it here These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!

pheonex 007 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:15:00 - [41] - Quote so people say that THE SCR IS NOT OP then why in the hell would ratite says they are going to nerf it :3 and am not just alking about my caldari suits am talking abt armour based suits also....it can kill any gallente assault suit in a CQC as well as in long range thats what my problem is ..! it should be weak against armour ...... and CAL SCOUTS dont you think they are weak againts any weapon...... even though its a shielded scout i try o sneak upon min assault and they just blow me away with there assault combat rifle
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 267	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:17:00 - [42] - Quote Why the gun is so good at CQC is because of aim assist. I want you to try it on without aim assist, you will overheat before you even get to your enemy's health. Well in the case of CQC of course These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!
pheonex 007 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:30:00 - [43] - Quote yeah but no ones gonna turn it off right so....OP
RD Burns Third Degree Burns. 25	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:56:00 - [44] - Quote How about I charge up my combat rifle and one shot armor tanked suits!
Doc DDD TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 432	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:12:00 - [45] - Quote Thing has been OP for over a year... only people that didn't thinks so were the people using them. DONT NERF MY CRUTCH
Harry Bawlss Fatal Absolution 250	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:21:00 - [46] - Quote The scrambler does not need a nerf. In terms of weapon and bonus it gets. In a caldero yes even the militia will take away most shields as it should. Try using the weapon on any suit other than the amarr assault and it is poop. Also the charge shot does most of the damage. The gun doesn't due well against amour tanked suits. I have been playing as an amarr for two years. Just because you all suck now doesn't mean weapon needs nerf. Change your combat style and adapt. You all just a bunch of whiny beotchess. Get gud scrubs ^-+^
CUSE TOWN333 PIanet Express Smart Deploy 2413	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:38:00 - [47] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: There are just a lot of people using scramblers. If all of those players were using ARs, this would be a 'CCPZ, nerf ARs' thread. Not that the gun isn't 'op', it certainly is marginally better than other guns in its class. However, that doesn't matter much in the end. Your play style is universally to blame for any deaths you incur, with the occasional exception of elevated lag. Use cover, fight in pairs, and take ownership of your weaknesses. please explain how the scrambler rifle is better than the tac AR? now watch when they nerf the scrambler and buff the tac AR the buckets of tears by caldari getting chopped in half by ARs. the retardation in this room is on LvL 10 right now. CBM.
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1604	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:44:00 - [48] - Quote Harry Bawlss wrote: The scrambler does not need a nerf. In terms of weapon and bonus it gets. In a caldero yes even the militia will take away most shields as it should. Try using the weapon on any suit other than the amarr assault and it is poop. Also the charge shot does most of the damage. The gun doesn't due well against amour tanked suits. I have been playing as an amarr for two years. Just because you all suck now doesn't mean weapon needs nerf. Change your combat style and adapt. You all just a bunch of whiny beotchess. Get gud scrubs ^-+^ Your just a shitposting scrub using the "your not good" excuse. And your grammar is god awful Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Nestil Nos Nothi 217	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:49:00 - [49] - Quote SCR is easy mode on a amarr assault but not so on everything else since facing more than player will end in your dead most of the time
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18211	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:37:00 - [50] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: hmm so u people think except those fine people supporting me a CARTHIUM assault scrambler can take out a gal gk.0 FROM 27meter range in a cqc ? almost instantaneously thats bull **** u guys must have skill up ino the scr a lot so you are scared if they nerf it again yu need grind to gain sp for another weapon :3 Should they, and I am from a corporation that is only allowed to use Amarrian dropsuit technology and in practice always attempts to use Amarrian weapons where possible, I'll just pick up the AR, Shotgun, and Ion Pistol. Kirk told me they sucked but I can't argue with two 20+ kill games with basic Gallente weapons. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City

Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 193	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:40:00 - [51] - Quote Stupid buff is stupid
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:40:00 - [52] - Quote Doc DDD wrote: Thing has been OP for over a year... only people that didn't thinks so were the people using them. DONT NERF MY CRUTCH Aim Assist is the real crutch, it's what breaks several of the weapons, Bolt Pistol I'm looking at you, ScR is another weapon you can tell when aim assist is kicking in and making it headseek.
Union118 Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 545	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:41:00 - [53] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: SCR IS OP! NERF IT RR IS OP! NERF IT CR IS OP! NERF IT SG IS OP! NERF IT HMG IS OP! NERF IT BP IS OP! NERF IT NERF EVERYTHING. But heey crying please buff stuff that i use crying. Can you see the allusion? Umm... can you be more specific? Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 71	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:44:00 - [54] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18211	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:55:00 - [55] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. You can't kill Sentinel's in 3 shots. Even using Charged shots, assuming my Math is wrong, you will deal 377 damage per shot inclusive of the weapons damage profile. That's 116 Damage per shot modified by the 3.25 Modifier. That knocks out about half of the base shield HP of a sentinel of and unfit Cal Sent with Dropsuit Upgrades V and sets you back the equivalent of 10 Shots. If I start using standard fire mode I exceed the 3 shot limit. If I continued to use charged shots a common Cal Sent fit begins to regenerate 50 HP per second within 1 second of taking damage and 4 (lessened to 2.46 on a fit I would use) once depleted. Again if my math is right it should take 4 consecutive charged shots to kill my Cal Sent and many more when using standard fire. Which would take a significant time investment and stupidity on the Sentinel's part. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9378	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:58:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. You can't kill Sentinel's in 3 shots. Even using Charged shots, assuming my Math is wrong, you will deal 377 damage per shot inclusive of the weapons damage profile. That's 116 Damage per shot modified by the 3.25 Modifier. That knocks out about half of the base shield HP of a sentinel of and unfit Cal Sent with Dropsuit Upgrades V and sets you back the equivalent of 10 Shots. If I start using standard fire mode I exceed the 3 shot limit. If I continued to use charged shots a common Cal Sent fit begins to regenerate 50 HP per second within 1 second of taking damage and 4 (lessened to 2.46 on a fit I would use) once depleted. Again if my math is right it should take 4 consecutive charged shots to kill my Cal Sent and many more when using standard fire. Which would take a significant time investment and stupidity on the Sentinel's part. This doesn't sound like it takes into account headshots, which I assume there is a modifier for. However, if someone gets 3 consecutive headshots they deserve the kill IMO. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 71	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:01:00 - [57] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. You can't kill Sentinel's in 3 shots. Even using Charged shots, assuming my Math is wrong, you will deal 377 damage per shot inclusive of the weapons damage profile. That's 116 Damage per shot modified by the 3.25 Modifier. That knocks out about half of the base shield HP of a sentinel of and unfit Cal Sent with Dropsuit Upgrades V and sets you back the equivalent of 10 Shots. If I start using standard fire mode I exceed the 3 shot limit. If I continued to use charged shots a common Cal Sent fit begins to regenerate 50 HP per second within 1 second of taking damage and 4 (lessened to 2.46 on a fit I would use) once depleted. Again if my math is right it should take 4 consecutive charged shots to kill my Cal Sent and many more when using standard fire. Which would take a significant time investment and stupidity on the Sentinel's part. Take a joke except the part where I could care less what CCP does at this point. I do admit though I does get annoying when I constantly die by SCR ..... but I mainly do Min. FW. So my fault for that. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1234	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:09:00 - [58] - Quote History has shown us that if it shows up too often in the kill feed it's likely to be nerfed in the near future. I've died more to it recently than ever before. That is just my Minmatar perspective, but i do see them a lot in the feed these days. Your matchmaking sucked the last time and it still sucks this time.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18212	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:25:00 - [59] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: True Adamance wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. You can't kill Sentinel's in 3 shots. Even using Charged shots, assuming my Math is wrong, you will deal 377 damage per shot inclusive of the weapons damage profile. That's 116 Damage per shot modified by the 3.25 Modifier. That knocks out about half of the base shield HP of a sentinel of and unfit Cal Sent with Dropsuit Upgrades V and sets you back the equivalent of 10 Shots. If I start using standard fire mode I exceed the 3 shot limit. If I continued to use charged shots a common Cal Sent fit begins to regenerate 50 HP per second within 1 second of taking damage and 4 (lessened to 2.46 on a fit I would use) once depleted. Again if my math is right it should take 4 consecutive charged shots to kill my Cal Sent and many more when using standard fire. Which would take a significant time investment and stupidity on the Sentinel's part. Take a joke except the part where I could care less what CCP does at this point. I do admit though I does get annoying when I constantly die by SCR ..... but I mainly do Min. FW. So my fault for that. Well ideally the Min Sent should have the best Laser Damage Resistance in the game. However in true fashion Caldari content has some of the lower laser resistances. That is simply how it is. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 225	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:27:00 - [60] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP They certainly need to take a look at it but were you running shield based caldari fits? it is suppose to be effective against that n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +24 Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?

Scarr Beloxian FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 64	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:44:00 - [61] - Quote well I did kill a tank with a scrambler rifle so yea...tank was low on hp and charged shot it in the rear and boom it went seeking the end is no fun for an immortal
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18213	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:48:00 - [62] - Quote Scarr Beloxian wrote: well I did kill a tank with a scrambler rifle so yea...tank was low on hp and charged shot it in the rear and boom it went So did I but a Blaster Installation had already just about popped it armour, put half an ASCR burst into it and poof, still this is something any rifle can achieve. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
Scarr Beloxian FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 64	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:54:00 - [63] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Scarr Beloxian wrote: well I did kill a tank with a scrambler rifle so yea...tank was low on hp and charged shot it in the rear and boom it went So did I but a Blaster Installation had already just about popped it armour, put half an ASCR burst into it and poof, still this is something any rifle can achieve. that actually was what happened when I killed the tank seeking the end is no fun for an immortal
davis fritz Subsonic Synthesis 63	Posted - 2015.04.13 23:09:00 - [64] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP I also noticed that water is wet I fucking Love/Hate this game
Mastodonhead LA ULTIMA RESISTENCIA 25	Posted - 2015.04.13 23:21:00 - [65] - Quote I'm using an Assault Amarr, with a ScR, you don't have any idea how i hate the CR an the HMG , 'case whit this weapons i die so easily (both is more effective against Armor, Main defense of the Amarr) and not for that i'm go to tell CCP "please CCP, Please Rattati Nerf those ******* weapons " I feel like shit!!!................................. but at least i feel something!!! Sangre por Sangre de por vida \m/
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3418	Posted - 2015.04.14 00:41:00 - [66] - Quote I use the ScR on AmAssault It destroys literally everything with little worry of overheat. That's where the gun is more spam than tactical. However, I've recently seen the light. I've been using it on an AmScount and I now have to worry about overheat and I have to pick my shots more. It is still too good in CQC for my liking either way, however, this is also an issue with the CR, so I won't ask for a nerf for the ScR if the CR also doesn't get one to mitigate CQC effectiveness. Shotguns are made of a Scandium-Ruthenium-Boron enhanced alloy First to PM me with common name wins
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1605	Posted - 2015.04.14 00:52:00 - [67] - Quote Mastodonhead wrote: I'm using an Assault Amarr, with a ScR, you don't have any idea how i hate the CR an the HMG , 'case whit this weapons i die so easily (both is more effective against Armor, Main defense of the Amarr) and not for that i'm go to tell CCP "please CCP, Please Rattati Nerf those ******* weapons " True but those weapons don't take out a fourth of your hp in one shot soooo... Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18217	Posted - 2015.04.14 01:38:00 - [68] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: Mastodonhead wrote: I'm using an Assault Amarr, with a ScR, you don't have any idea how i hate the CR an the HMG , 'case whit this weapons i die so easily (both is more effective against Armor, Main defense of the Amarr) and not for that i'm go to tell CCP "please CCP, Please Rattati Nerf those ******* weapons " True but those weapons don't take out a fourth of your hp in one shot soooo... They also don't lose a significant amount of combat efficiency if they miss one shot. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
SOGZ PANDA WarRavens 84	Posted - 2015.04.14 02:12:00 - [69] - Quote I'm sick of this nerf buff mentality. This is what causes the imbalance in guns and suits. Listening to OP's like this **** turd who just moan after being melted by his racial counter weapon. Newsflash bud your caldari suit is meant to be melted by scramblers fool Buff every weapon! Make suit skills mean more in counter play with racial skills and module skills. That'll lower the ttk so not every weapon drops you like a sack of shite "Why should we make a story about you?" "Cause I'm so f*ing good!"
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 605	Posted - 2015.04.14 02:58:00 - [70] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: There are just a lot of people using scramblers. If all of those players were using ARs, this would be a 'CCPZ, nerf ARs' thread. Not that the gun isn't 'op', it certainly is marginally better than other guns in its class. However, that doesn't matter much in the end. Your play style is universally to blame for any deaths you incur, with the occasional exception of elevated lag. Use cover, fight in pairs, and take ownership of your weaknesses. Best post in this thread. Except this sentence. ScR isn't very popular compared to other rifles. Same goes for number of ScR users per battle. It's never more than few for both teams. OP probably tried to do CQC with a call assault so it gave him the illusion that there are more ScR than there really is tactical long range rifle dominates in CQC, Georgia doesnt even begin to realize that this is a problem in his post implying that the scrambler is fine, Georgia doesnt even begin to realize that is also dominates at long ranges, making it the best rifle weapon at any range, and against any target, even armor ones, unless youre talking about a tanked out heavy with a logi hugging his butt.

pheonex 007 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 8	Posted - 2015.04.14 06:45:00 - [71] - Quote i know i know that i am getting laid by a racial weapon but geting killed with one shot in the head with a 400 shield caldari with 180 armour is completely insane .its doing a damage of a sniper rifle wih prof 3 in a CQC ..and it takes out MIN like a fly dancing around a frog :3 :3 AND WHY IN THE HELL WOULD THEY NERF IT IF IT IS NOT OVERPOWERD people who still support that the scr is not op WE KNOW THAT you are afraid so pls stop being a douch bag and understand the problem and yes it can take a min and a cal sent with a 3 charged shots in the head
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 275	Posted - 2015.04.14 06:49:00 - [72] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: There are just a lot of people using scramblers. If all of those players were using ARs, this would be a 'CCPZ, nerf ARs' thread. Not that the gun isn't 'op', it certainly is marginally better than other guns in its class. However, that doesn't matter much in the end. Your play style is universally to blame for any deaths you incur, with the occasional exception of elevated lag. Use cover, fight in pairs, and take ownership of your weaknesses. Best post in this thread. Except this sentence. ScR isn't very popular compared to other rifles. Same goes for number of ScR users per battle. It's never more than few for both teams. OP probably tried to do CQC with a call assault so it gave him the illusion that there are more ScR than there really is tactical long range rifle dominates in CQC, Georgia doesnt even begin to realize that this is a problem in his post implying that the scrambler is fine, Georgia doesnt even begin to realize that is also dominates at long ranges, making it the best rifle weapon at any range, and against any target, even armor ones, unless youre talking about a tanked out heavy with a logi hugging his butt. Oh trust me, I do know how fast this thing kills at range, out of all the weapons I use this is the most used,second is the laser rifle. I don't mind a nerf, heck just go with it already but what I'm afraid of is that the weapon becomes completely useless. I mean just look at the scrambler pistol. It's only saving grace is the breach variant These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!
Raven-747 WarRavens 8	Posted - 2015.04.14 11:18:00 - [73] - Quote ScRs are meat to rip shields (you should be knowing that) Also I'm a cal sct as well and i know that i should not fk with a scr unlike you who maybe tries to charge on a Scr with a cal scout or assault. We Amarr are a superior race, and the other races are bound to kneel to us.
VALCORE72 Vengeance Unbound RUST415 278	Posted - 2015.04.14 12:24:00 - [74] - Quote think it does a tad bit to much to armor . it should be reaally the opposite of the cr . take off the charge shot and it would fine . asian haters united lol .
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1008	Posted - 2015.04.14 12:45:00 - [75] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: What if it was a +10/-15(or -20) profile it already is -20 profile Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 275	Posted - 2015.04.14 12:49:00 - [76] - Quote VALCORE72 wrote: think it does a tad bit to much to armor . it should be reaally the opposite of the cr . take off the charge shot and it would fine . It's one of the few things that makes this game interesting, unique weapons. Take the charge off and won't be as interested in the game anymore These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!


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