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Stormblade Green wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Stormblade Green wrote:

pheonex 007 wrote:

it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 Cry

uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP

It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want.

You can't kill Sentinel's in 3 shots.

Even using Charged shots, assuming my Math is wrong, you will deal 377 damage per shot inclusive of the weapons damage profile.

That's 116 Damage per shot modified by the 3.25 Modifier.

That knocks out about half of the base shield HP of a sentinel of and unfit Cal Sent with Dropsuit Upgrades V and sets you back the equivalent of 10 Shots.

If I start using standard fire mode I exceed the 3 shot limit. If I continued to use charged shots a common Cal Sent fit begins to regenerate 50 HP per second within 1 second of taking damage and 4 (lessened to 2.46 on a fit I would use) once depleted.

Again if my math is right it should take 4 consecutive charged shots to kill my Cal Sent and many more when using standard fire. Which would take a significant time investment and stupidity on the Sentinel's part.

Take a joke except the part where I could care less what CCP does at this point. I do admit though I does get annoying when I constantly die by SCR ..... but I mainly do Min. FW. So my fault for that. Roll

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thehellisgoingon MONSTER SYNERGY 424	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:47:00 - [31] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It is very op when you run a proto scr with 2-3 complex damage mods. Wb damage at 5% (25k wbc!?!?!) . And proficiency 5. Btw it's shield based weaponry. It feels op cuz it kills your shield in 1 charge shot. Yea working as intended bud. The SCR dose not factor in your strafing skills. I have the templar stuff and I hate how good it is.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10106	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:51:00 - [32] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Echo is right. I shouldn't be this afraid of basic scramblers on suits that aren't Amarr but here I am, running from scrambler rifles like they're explosive rifles. That'd be like an shield suit loosing his ** at the sight of a magsec SMG Sgt Kirk, I was under the impression that you were not a bad. How are you scared of a ScR? I have ScR prof V, three light damage mods, and when I empty rounds into an armor dropsuit it is like punching a rhino in the ass: it just upsets the rhino. If you don't kill a person with that plus damage mods I wouldn't be assuming other guys are "bads", unless you're hitting sentinels, at that point its a "duh" moment. As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP**
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1603	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:51:00 - [33] - Quote It's armor damage profiles need to be changed or something else at least, I've been killed in mere moments by both the viziam and carthum with 600 armor and getting shot with 50-70+ damage per shot from a viziam and just a stream of continued damage of about 10-25 damage from a carthum Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 267	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:54:00 - [34] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: It's armor damage profiles need to be changed or something else at least, I've been killed in mere moments by both the viziam and carthum with 600 armor and getting shot with 50-70+ damage per shot from a viziam and just a stream of continued damage of about 10-25 damage from a carthum 41 base damage actually, it's why I don't like using it These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!
Poison Diego Vengeance Unbound RUST415 588	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:57:00 - [35] - Quote Ok its a shield weapon but how do you explain that you cant go head to head and beat the amarr using armor weapon against them, like ever. Even though you armor tank the living trash outta your suit. Also gallente never has a chance against them, still their weapon is only -10% to armor Im not a bad player but if Im facing a competitive slayer on the other side using the amarr with a viziam, its ridiculous, but I have to deploy in my identical one. Nýja Eden er bara byrjunin.
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1603	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:00:00 - [36] - Quote What if it was a +10/-15(or -20) profile Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 267	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:01:00 - [37] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: What if it was a +10/-15(or -20) profile Then the gun would be broken I think I'm not sure though it could work for all I know but people want it to be +15/-15 These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1603	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:05:00 - [38] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: knight guard fury wrote: What if it was a +10/-15(or -20) profile Then the gun would be broken I think I'm not sure though it could work for all I know but people want it to be +15/-15 If only we had test servers... Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 528	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:06:00 - [39] - Quote the scram rifles main issues is A: its high base damage means its -20% to armour still wont affect its ttk too much since it really isn't losing too much damage. ifn the profile was -30 or 35% THEN it would be noticble and struggle to melt armour. could be applied to the base variant......we all hate how stong that charged shot is even without damage mods. the assault variant really only needs its base damage nerfed down. B: the turbo controller....................enough said C: feed back damge of 25..............could be higher................it gets all this damage......short over heat time.. compare to the laser: 125 feedback....LONG cooldown even with lvl 5 operation. increase feedback to 75-90 damage to punish for over heat...and anoy turbo users. slightly increase overheat time. (prevent's....hinders...makes bad choice for cqc) D: the charged shot damage......................this is way too high. should have higher heat cost. to make it more risk/reward for landing the hit. prevents single round spam from lasting too long. E: clip size feels slightly too big, heat built per shot also feels to low compared to how many rounds/accumulated damage can be applied. F: shield suits using the scram rifle...............really..... I could go on but I feel these are its main issues. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 267	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:10:00 - [40] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: the scram rifles main issues is A: its high base damage means its -20% to armour still wont affect its ttk too much since it really isn't losing too much damage. ifn the profile was -30 or 35% THEN it would be noticble and struggle to melt armour. could be applied to the base variant......we all hate how stong that charged shot is even without damage mods. the assault variant really only needs its base damage nerfed down. B: the turbo controller....................enough said C: feed back damge of 25..............could be higher................it gets all this damage......short over heat time.. compare to the laser: 125 feedback....LONG cooldown even with lvl 5 operation. increase feedback to 75-90 damage to punish for over heat...and anoy turbo users. slightly increase overheat time. (prevent's....hinders...makes bad choice for cqc) D: the charged shot damage......................this is way too high. should have higher heat cost. to make it more risk/reward for landing the hit. prevents single round spam from lasting too long. E: clip size feels slightly too big, heat built per shot also feels to low compared to how many rounds/accumulated damage can be applied. F: shield suits using the scram rifle...............really..... I could go on but I feel these are its main issues. If I remember correctly, Rattati mentioned to decrease normal shot damage but keep or increase charge damage to reward accuracy. If I can find the thread again I will link it to you Edit: I found it here These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!

pheonex 007 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:15:00 - [41] - Quote so people say that THE SCR IS NOT OP then why in the hell would ratite says they are going to nerf it :3 and am not just alking about my caldari suits am talking abt armour based suits also....it can kill any gallente assault suit in a CQC as well as in long range thats what my problem is ..! it should be weak against armour ...... and CAL SCOUTS dont you think they are weak againts any weapon...... even though its a shielded scout i try o sneak upon min assault and they just blow me away with there assault combat rifle
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 267	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:17:00 - [42] - Quote Why the gun is so good at CQC is because of aim assist. I want you to try it on without aim assist, you will overheat before you even get to your enemy's health. Well in the case of CQC of course These god damned duct tape warriors got rust all over my armor!
pheonex 007 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:30:00 - [43] - Quote yeah but no ones gonna turn it off right so....OP
RD Burns Third Degree Burns. 25	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:56:00 - [44] - Quote How about I charge up my combat rifle and one shot armor tanked suits!
Doc DDD TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 432	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:12:00 - [45] - Quote Thing has been OP for over a year... only people that didn't thinks so were the people using them. DONT NERF MY CRUTCH
Harry Bawlss Fatal Absolution 250	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:21:00 - [46] - Quote The scrambler does not need a nerf. In terms of weapon and bonus it gets. In a caldero yes even the militia will take away most shields as it should. Try using the weapon on any suit other than the amarr assault and it is poop. Also the charge shot does most of the damage. The gun doesn't due well against amour tanked suits. I have been playing as an amarr for two years. Just because you all suck now doesn't mean weapon needs nerf. Change your combat style and adapt. You all just a bunch of whiny beotchess. Get gud scrubs ^-+^
CUSE TOWN333 PIanet Express Smart Deploy 2413	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:38:00 - [47] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: There are just a lot of people using scramblers. If all of those players were using ARs, this would be a 'CCPZ, nerf ARs' thread. Not that the gun isn't 'op', it certainly is marginally better than other guns in its class. However, that doesn't matter much in the end. Your play style is universally to blame for any deaths you incur, with the occasional exception of elevated lag. Use cover, fight in pairs, and take ownership of your weaknesses. please explain how the scrambler rifle is better than the tac AR? now watch when they nerf the scrambler and buff the tac AR the buckets of tears by caldari getting chopped in half by ARs. the retardation in this room is on LvL 10 right now. CBM.
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1604	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:44:00 - [48] - Quote Harry Bawlss wrote: The scrambler does not need a nerf. In terms of weapon and bonus it gets. In a caldero yes even the militia will take away most shields as it should. Try using the weapon on any suit other than the amarr assault and it is poop. Also the charge shot does most of the damage. The gun doesn't due well against amour tanked suits. I have been playing as an amarr for two years. Just because you all suck now doesn't mean weapon needs nerf. Change your combat style and adapt. You all just a bunch of whiny beotchess. Get gud scrubs ^-+^ Your just a shitposting scrub using the "your not good" excuse. And your grammar is god awful Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Nestil Nos Nothi 217	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:49:00 - [49] - Quote SCR is easy mode on a amarr assault but not so on everything else since facing more than player will end in your dead most of the time
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18211	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:37:00 - [50] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: hmm so u people think except those fine people supporting me a CARTHIUM assault scrambler can take out a gal gk.0 FROM 27meter range in a cqc ? almost instantaneously thats bull **** u guys must have skill up ino the scr a lot so you are scared if they nerf it again yu need grind to gain sp for another weapon :3 Should they, and I am from a corporation that is only allowed to use Amarrian dropsuit technology and in practice always attempts to use Amarrian weapons where possible, I'll just pick up the AR, Shotgun, and Ion Pistol. Kirk told me they sucked but I can't argue with two 20+ kill games with basic Gallente weapons. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City

Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 193	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:40:00 - [51] - Quote Stupid buff is stupid
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:40:00 - [52] - Quote Doc DDD wrote: Thing has been OP for over a year... only people that didn't thinks so were the people using them. DONT NERF MY CRUTCH Aim Assist is the real crutch, it's what breaks several of the weapons, Bolt Pistol I'm looking at you, ScR is another weapon you can tell when aim assist is kicking in and making it headseek.
Union118 Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 545	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:41:00 - [53] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: SCR IS OP! NERF IT RR IS OP! NERF IT CR IS OP! NERF IT SG IS OP! NERF IT HMG IS OP! NERF IT BP IS OP! NERF IT NERF EVERYTHING. But heey crying please buff stuff that i use crying. Can you see the allusion? Umm... can you be more specific? Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 71	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:44:00 - [54] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18211	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:55:00 - [55] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. You can't kill Sentinel's in 3 shots. Even using Charged shots, assuming my Math is wrong, you will deal 377 damage per shot inclusive of the weapons damage profile. That's 116 Damage per shot modified by the 3.25 Modifier. That knocks out about half of the base shield HP of a sentinel of and unfit Cal Sent with Dropsuit Upgrades V and sets you back the equivalent of 10 Shots. If I start using standard fire mode I exceed the 3 shot limit. If I continued to use charged shots a common Cal Sent fit begins to regenerate 50 HP per second within 1 second of taking damage and 4 (lessened to 2.46 on a fit I would use) once depleted. Again if my math is right it should take 4 consecutive charged shots to kill my Cal Sent and many more when using standard fire. Which would take a significant time investment and stupidity on the Sentinel's part. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9378	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:58:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. You can't kill Sentinel's in 3 shots. Even using Charged shots, assuming my Math is wrong, you will deal 377 damage per shot inclusive of the weapons damage profile. That's 116 Damage per shot modified by the 3.25 Modifier. That knocks out about half of the base shield HP of a sentinel of and unfit Cal Sent with Dropsuit Upgrades V and sets you back the equivalent of 10 Shots. If I start using standard fire mode I exceed the 3 shot limit. If I continued to use charged shots a common Cal Sent fit begins to regenerate 50 HP per second within 1 second of taking damage and 4 (lessened to 2.46 on a fit I would use) once depleted. Again if my math is right it should take 4 consecutive charged shots to kill my Cal Sent and many more when using standard fire. Which would take a significant time investment and stupidity on the Sentinel's part. This doesn't sound like it takes into account headshots, which I assume there is a modifier for. However, if someone gets 3 consecutive headshots they deserve the kill IMO. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 71	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:01:00 - [57] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. You can't kill Sentinel's in 3 shots. Even using Charged shots, assuming my Math is wrong, you will deal 377 damage per shot inclusive of the weapons damage profile. That's 116 Damage per shot modified by the 3.25 Modifier. That knocks out about half of the base shield HP of a sentinel of and unfit Cal Sent with Dropsuit Upgrades V and sets you back the equivalent of 10 Shots. If I start using standard fire mode I exceed the 3 shot limit. If I continued to use charged shots a common Cal Sent fit begins to regenerate 50 HP per second within 1 second of taking damage and 4 (lessened to 2.46 on a fit I would use) once depleted. Again if my math is right it should take 4 consecutive charged shots to kill my Cal Sent and many more when using standard fire. Which would take a significant time investment and stupidity on the Sentinel's part. Take a joke except the part where I could care less what CCP does at this point. I do admit though I does get annoying when I constantly die by SCR ..... but I mainly do Min. FW. So my fault for that. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1234	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:09:00 - [58] - Quote History has shown us that if it shows up too often in the kill feed it's likely to be nerfed in the near future. I've died more to it recently than ever before. That is just my Minmatar perspective, but i do see them a lot in the feed these days. Your matchmaking sucked the last time and it still sucks this time.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18212	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:25:00 - [59] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: True Adamance wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP It does get annoying when my sentinels get killed in 3 shots but I just want CCP to do what they want. You can't kill Sentinel's in 3 shots. Even using Charged shots, assuming my Math is wrong, you will deal 377 damage per shot inclusive of the weapons damage profile. That's 116 Damage per shot modified by the 3.25 Modifier. That knocks out about half of the base shield HP of a sentinel of and unfit Cal Sent with Dropsuit Upgrades V and sets you back the equivalent of 10 Shots. If I start using standard fire mode I exceed the 3 shot limit. If I continued to use charged shots a common Cal Sent fit begins to regenerate 50 HP per second within 1 second of taking damage and 4 (lessened to 2.46 on a fit I would use) once depleted. Again if my math is right it should take 4 consecutive charged shots to kill my Cal Sent and many more when using standard fire. Which would take a significant time investment and stupidity on the Sentinel's part. Take a joke except the part where I could care less what CCP does at this point. I do admit though I does get annoying when I constantly die by SCR ..... but I mainly do Min. FW. So my fault for that. Well ideally the Min Sent should have the best Laser Damage Resistance in the game. However in true fashion Caldari content has some of the lower laser resistances. That is simply how it is. GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 225	Posted - 2015.04.13 22:27:00 - [60] - Quote pheonex 007 wrote: it kills every thing -.- -.- my caldari assault dies within instant with a militia scrambler and the assault srambler and my cal scout LOL its a petrol and all the other weapons are flamethrowers with just kills it in an instant ...!1 uuugg it IS AN OVERPOWERD WEAPON...! NERF IT CCP They certainly need to take a look at it but were you running shield based caldari fits? it is suppose to be effective against that n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +24 Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?



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