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CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3301	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:33:00 - [1] - Quote So I have only been playing with this new match maker a couple of days or so, however so far I have had very mixed results. The first day or so, matches were half empty, I was seeing red lines way more often in battle and I was not running into most of the players that I would normally fight against. Even now I feel, yes things have improved over the last few days but I honestly feel that matchmaking was more fun and crucially - more even before hand. A lot of my games since the match making fix have been rather slow and dull. I am willing to wait longer to let CCP fiddle with numbers and to allow the mu / elo scores to settle but so far I honestly feel match making was really good before this update (the last few weeks). Where as now it feels random again. Anecdotal evidence of course. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!
Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 65	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:44:00 - [2] - Quote Your not alone it, We all don't know reason if this matchmaking is good or bad. I been in matches were team weren't even full or during matches half of them quit.
Duke Noobiam D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 403	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:19:00 - [3] - Quote Depends what you mean by worst. Here are my observations. - Advanced or proto gear is a must. I used to only run my bpos but I can't seem to get away with it in pubs anymore. - When the team numbers stay even, the games are very good and balanced. The gap between the top of the leader board and the bottom is much narrower than it used to be. -The games are much harder than before. The competition is fierce and as such you can't just coast and do well. -Too many players are dropping from battles. This was really bad the first night and seems to have gotten better since. Obviously when you end up with 15 vs 3 the match is going to suck, but when that does not happen the matches are much better although they are also much more difficult.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1196	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:44:00 - [4] - Quote Apparently my 1.25 K:DR and never squading is enough to throw me up against constant proto squads. While I have my moments I am pretty terrible so I am a bit confused. /Faceplam
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3234	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:51:00 - [5] - Quote I am assuming the best and figuring that Scotty is trying to pit me against players with similar lethality. That said, as soon as I see what looks like a stomp squad, I drop the match to give Scotty another chance at doing just that. I am quitting games more than ever, but I'm sure it's all for the best. KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 532	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:51:00 - [6] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Apparently my 1.25 K:DR and never squading is enough to throw me up against constant proto squads. While I have my moments I am pretty terrible so I am a bit confused. Judging from your corp you prolly know how to make some sweet WAR POINTS From what I can tell the Match Making is based off of KILLS and WARPOINTS per match If you average anywhere over 750wp a match, my money is you get sent to the big leagues... http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
The dark cloud Negative-Feedback. 4305	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:53:00 - [7] - Quote I do not call it a improvment to let me wait 10 mins+ to get into a single pub match. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1882	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:59:00 - [8] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Apparently my 1.25 K:DR and never squading is enough to throw me up against constant proto squads. While I have my moments I am pretty terrible so I am a bit confused. What are you lifetime stats though?? I have a 1.50 KDR, low enough, but glady I fight the better players (before+after update) Adding in my 8mil + lifetime WP, maybe Scotty has me confused with someone who isn't a scrub I'm seeing a few posts regarding this, and one guy was boasting that he was in lower-tier.. I REALLY hope that our playerbase doesn't become a pack of window lickers trying to lower their stats So they can avoid getting murdered, let's just pray that CCP have this one figured out (pllleeeeaaassseee) ^ This is why I think an Easy/Hard mode should be available... Obviously different rewards for each, why have players given no incentive to fight at a higher level?
Vyzion Eyri WarRavens 2767	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:04:00 - [9] - Quote There was nothing before; this is the first time matchmaking has ever existed in DUST ever, besides people having server preferences. I seem to recall lots of people asking for it before it was implemented, now the community which previously would've been 90% for it is now split 50/50 for and against. Interesting, eh? Grass is always greener on the other side. Oh well, complaints aside, the lower tier seems to be giving the newbies a little more breathing space after the academy, which is definitely necessary. We just need more players to fill out teams now, tbh. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10051	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:05:00 - [10] - Quote MY only issue is that know I get put with enemies that do nothing but snipe, grenade and mass driver spam with FoTM suits. Dammit, my mu puts me with Scrubs that want easymode weapons. Welp, back to FW I go! It's been a second Caldari *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*

Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1198	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:08:00 - [11] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Apparently my 1.25 K:DR and never squading is enough to throw me up against constant proto squads. While I have my moments I am pretty terrible so I am a bit confused. What are you lifetime stats though?? I have a 1.50 KDR, low enough, but glady I fight the better players (before+after update) Adding in my 8mil + lifetime WP, maybe Scotty has me confused with someone who isn't a scrub I'm seeing a few posts regarding this, and one guy was boasting that he was in lower-tier.. I REALLY hope that our playerbase doesn't become a pack of window lickers trying to lower their stats So they can avoid getting murdered, let's just pray that CCP have this one figured out (pllleeeeaaassseee) ^ This is why I think an Easy/Hard mode should be available... Obviously different rewards for each, why have players given no incentive to fight at a higher level? Actually apparently I've gone down hill as of late, life time I am down to 1.2 K:DR with 2.23 Million WP. Much much worse on the month as I've been goofing round with dumb fits. I've done a lot of logi work in my time but I mostly run commando's these days, so my WP totals of late are down. /Faceplam
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 360	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:44:00 - [12] - Quote Personally all the games I joined were dead except 2 that were excellent. The game has never been so boring. I don't care about who I'm facing as long as I can get into big fights, but right now there is no action.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 450	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:48:00 - [13] - Quote Honestly I have found most of these 12 vs 13 and 13 v 14 type matches to be the best thing to happen in Dust. They seem unfair at first but then they turn into drawn out blood baths that are a battle down to the last clone. I do not care if I ever see 16 v 16 in pubs again. P.S. Performance feels a bit better at like 12 - 13 players per side. I do not thing I have seen a single rubber band, lag spike, or frame rate drop since the addition of this system.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1016	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:56:00 - [14] - Quote it's been mostly good for me. Slightly longer que time for matches, the occasional unbalanced team numbers. When it's full game , I have had much beter fights. Had a skirmish last night that was the closest game I have ever played. We were losing , the enemy had control of 3 out of the 4 objectives. We had about 10% armor left on MCC , they had over half of their armor still. It looked to be a loss, but I managed to hop into a scout with uplinks and hacked 2 of the objectives and dropped the links and fought off glimmerin inivsa scouts with shotguns and a plasma cannon wielding sentinal on one of the objectives , while the rest of the team secured the 3rd objective and attempted to hold on. We were both sitting there with just a sliver of MCC health, it was over any time and the enemy had managed to hack back 3 of the null cannons , but before they could get online ofr their side we pulled off the victory.. one more null shot and we were going to be the loser, **** was epic.
ROTFL Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:58:00 - [15] - Quote I have always been teamed up with cowards against proto scrubs...... Nothing has changed for me.... Except now, half my team leaves.... Found better things to spend my free time on.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6940	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:12:00 - [16] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: Depends what you mean by worst. Here are my observations. - Advanced or proto gear is a must. I used to only run my bpos but I can't seem to get away with it in pubs anymore. - When the team numbers stay even, the games are very good and balanced. The gap between the top of the leader board and the bottom is much narrower than it used to be. -The games are much harder than before. The competition is fierce and as such you can't just coast and do well. -Too many players are dropping from battles. This was really bad the first night and seems to have gotten better since. Obviously when you end up with 15 vs 3 the match is going to suck, but when that does not happen the matches are much better although they are also much more difficult. This. Kind of miss running all BPO fits. Can't do that anymore.
Songs of Seraphim Negative-Feedback. 451	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:27:00 - [17] - Quote In pubs I come across KDR padders who get their **** pushed in (you all know who they are). So it's one push then the match is eerily quiet with a bunch of snipers. It's actually more competitive in FW now... And I only had one loss in Caldari FW yesterday. :D Caldari loyalist Selling stuff
Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 66	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:29:00 - [18] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: Depends what you mean by worst. Here are my observations. - Advanced or proto gear is a must. I used to only run my bpos but I can't seem to get away with it in pubs anymore. - When the team numbers stay even, the games are very good and balanced. The gap between the top of the leader board and the bottom is much narrower than it used to be. -The games are much harder than before. The competition is fierce and as such you can't just coast and do well. -Too many players are dropping from battles. This was really bad the first night and seems to have gotten better since. Obviously when you end up with 15 vs 3 the match is going to suck, but when that does not happen the matches are much better although they are also much more difficult. That pretty much what every single veteran is wearing. How do u expect new player to even survive a number of game or grind the within certain of game play in order to get advanced or Proto suit just to stay even with them. They even got to rank up to be in same playing field which it not. Player dropping out, There nothing you can do for that. I had play few match today and saw half of my team just quite in the middle of a domination game which suck. All it does is kill player base itself if this continue to go on.
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback 6466	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:30:00 - [19] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: I do not call it a improvment to let me wait 10 mins+ to get into a single pub match. I'd wait 10 minutes if they were quality matches. It's just very, very rare to have 32 willing participants in the highest tier of matchmaking.
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback 6466	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:32:00 - [20] - Quote Take a look at your contacts section of the leaderboard. I see some big names with their KDRs slashed. I can tell you that's going to be an issue longterm. Especially if they feel as I do, that the people on their team aren't participating and causing them more deaths and losses.

Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 66	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:36:00 - [21] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: I am assuming the best and figuring that Scotty is trying to pit me against players with similar lethality. That said, as soon as I see what looks like a stomp squad, I drop the match to give Scotty another chance at doing just that. I am quitting games more than ever, but I'm sure it's all for the best. It that problem that you quitting the game more often, It the problem that Look what weapon, suit, equipment etc. against what the veteran player have is the most expensive stuff suit, equipment and weapons etc. Trust me I know how most the player feel when they don't want to quit a game when u know there is no point of trying to come back and win it. That what mentally is when they quit.
Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 66	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:45:00 - [22] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: Personally all the games I joined were dead except 2 that were excellent. The game has never been so boring. I don't care about who I'm facing as long as I can get into big fights, but right now there is no action. At some point you will be pulling your hair out of frustration if you were saying that all the game were boring except two because that lobby was balance basically. It not that point if u don't care about something. It the point that when player log in the first thing they want is to do good and have fun with it not get overwhelm by the veteran player have all of gear. Back then non of that never happen upset for veteran that kept there progress from the beta upon release of the game. why u think most of them have 40 mil in SP and 200 Mil in ISK.?
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3238	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:46:00 - [23] - Quote Cordera Ray wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: I am assuming the best and figuring that Scotty is trying to pit me against players with similar lethality. That said, as soon as I see what looks like a stomp squad, I drop the match to give Scotty another chance at doing just that. I am quitting games more than ever, but I'm sure it's all for the best. It that problem that you quitting the game more often, It the problem that Look what weapon, suit, equipment etc. against what the veteran player have is the most expensive stuff suit, equipment and weapons etc. Trust me I know how most the player feel when they don't want to quit a game when u know there is no point of trying to come back and win it. That what mentally is when they quit. I'm sorry... What? KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 710	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:51:00 - [24] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: I do not call it a improvment to let me wait 10 mins+ to get into a single pub match. 10+ min?, i've played Dust for about 12hours total since the matchmakings been in effect, and hav'nt waited longer than 2min to get into a Pub match. Guess i'm lucky Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11408	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:58:00 - [25] - Quote It depends on who you ask. As a veteran, it has gotten far better than before in my opinion as I am no longer put into a game filled with scrubs or protostompers. But after testing out the matchmaking from a new-player perspective, I think it needs work. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1003	Posted - 2015.04.04 19:01:00 - [26] - Quote Matchmaking is definitely better, I'm getting more even matches (only a few more uneven team matches than before.) But the playerbase still sucks and there are still teams that will spam better gear than they can afford just to win... Also players that will give up and snipe from the red in every match... The players that never push the objective still have to go somewhere to play. I just hope it evens out at some point... Perhaps include 'time spent near an objective' in the matchmaking calculations?
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1614	Posted - 2015.04.04 20:14:00 - [27] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: I am assuming the best and figuring that Scotty is trying to pit me against players with similar lethality. That said, as soon as I see what looks like a stomp squad, I drop the match to give Scotty another chance at doing just that. I am quitting games more than ever, but I'm sure it's all for the best. Stop doing that. you are just screwing things up, even for yourself. Because, that's why.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1584	Posted - 2015.04.04 20:18:00 - [28] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Apparently my 1.25 K:DR and never squading is enough to throw me up against constant proto squads. While I have my moments I am pretty terrible so I am a bit confused. I was wondering about this and I saw it for myself when queueing earlier. On my team were 14 solo players. Enemy team had 2 squads on a full side. LOL. And that's what you get for running solo. Rare Item Trades
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11411	Posted - 2015.04.04 20:23:00 - [29] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: I am assuming the best and figuring that Scotty is trying to pit me against players with similar lethality. That said, as soon as I see what looks like a stomp squad, I drop the match to give Scotty another chance at doing just that. I am quitting games more than ever, but I'm sure it's all for the best. You're quitting when you see a challenge? That's not the way to go. Now that matchmaking logic has changed, it's very likely now that the people you see on the roster are probably of your caliber. If you leave just because you suspect a stomp squad, you're only making it harder for the remaining players to be able to defeat them. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9063	Posted - 2015.04.04 20:25:00 - [30] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Apparently my 1.25 K:DR and never squading is enough to throw me up against constant proto squads. While I have my moments I am pretty terrible so I am a bit confused. I was wondering about this and I saw it for myself when queueing earlier. On my team were 14 solo players. Enemy team had 2 squads on a full side. LOL. And that's what you get for running solo. If matchmaking and team balancing in combination are doing what they are supposed to, that shouldn't matter. I ran solo the other night and had plenty of good games. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.



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