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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.20 19:58:00 -
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Don't even bother hoping Dust 514 will last longer than 5-years. In an effort to show CCP how much we wanted this franchise to survive we apparently shot ourselves in the foot. We stabilized the player-base with 2,400 or so active players at any given time (meaning we're no longer hemmoraging players apparently) and not only that... We made it a profitable endeavor for CCP.
Which, both hilariously and ironically, may have sealed the fate of Project Legion as being in Development Hell as they're now back to focusing on Dust 514.
So - paraphrasing here (and of course just speculation) - we basically showed them that we were so loyal and dedicated to this franchise that they're now no-longer working on any long-term survivability and are just focusing on keeping Dust 514 as their cash cow, keeping our interests by fixing it. We are at this point, for lack of a better word, just job security. At least, that's the only conclusion I can personally bring up at this point since they apparently have nothing else to say on the matter.
We've a shelf life now. An expiration date.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
Founder of AIV
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
479
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:04:00 -
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We are beta testing for Legion imo...
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
520
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:12:00 -
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Dude don't lie. You still have hope and that's what they are banking on. Cause honestly to many, this game died a long time ago.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9280
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:13:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:We are beta testing for Legion imo...
Its pretty freaggin clear that Legion ain't happenin' bro. They're just too terrified to lose their revenue stream to admit it.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
Founder of AIV
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
307
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:15:00 -
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It is really hard to say what will happen at this point.
If they just port Dust to PC I am likely to not waste my hard drive space. If they port to PS4 I am doubtful I will buy a new system for it.
What seems to be a 100% given is that the dream of a MMOFPS set in New Eden and integrated with the sand box has been given up. The idea of Dust that we all bought into so long ago is dead. We were teased with the possibility of this dream staying alive in Legion but that is now dead as well. |
Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9280
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:16:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Dude don't lie. You still have hope and that's what they are banking on. Cause honestly to many, this game died a long time ago.
Nah, I'm done. For real this time. I might still play but I'm definitely not investing any more money so they can try to wrap their heads around what they want to do. No sense in wasting my time and effort into it if it's going no where. Fun benefit of being terrified of commitment is that you can't honestly expect anyone else to commit to it either and that being said, why should I commit any more time and effort to a company that doesn't know what they want?
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
696
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:16:00 -
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I consider myself a patron of the electronic arts (not Electronic Arts).
I really didn't want to use outdated PS3 hardware when it was released, but I figured it would be ported over to the PS4 when it was released (the PS4). Now the PS4 is outdated, and I might accidentally send Sony* the wrong message because we're the 50% they can't get rid of, and I'll buy a PS4 if that's what it takes to support CCP.
*Sony should be providing annual hardware upgrades. Slots for new memory modules, video cards, etc. They have been conditioned to think customers are willing to use the same outdated hardware year after year, because we keep buying spec-locked consoles with no option to upgrade.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Avallo Kantor
534
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:19:00 -
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I'll give a quick parallel here: PoS revamp.
EVE players have been complaining about it for years. All that time being told "It's legacy code" and "we are working on it"
That's it. No updates as to what they did, no little insights to the new system. Nothing.
Come this year at Fanfest, they show off dozens of new goodies, a completely redesigned system, and come Saturday will be unveiling the finer details of their whole plan.
Before they were ready they gave EVE players NOTHING to hope for in regards to that feature coming around. Just words of "we're working on it but we won't show you anything"
Second Example: New SoV system.
Again same thing, just words that they were "working on it" and "it will be done when we are happy with it" but other than that no changes until they were ready to release phase one. Then again, nothing news wise on that front. Then again, bam, one dev blog later they open the flood gates on their system when they are confident in it.
TLDR: CCP of today doesn't tell you crap unless they are ready with the product. Until they you might get confirmation that they are working on it, but they seem committed to no empty promises. However that commitment means they also won't share any features they are working on unless they are actually ready for release in the coming weeks / months. |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
188
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:21:00 -
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Dust in itself will continue to lose players( I don't why some people saying its stabilizing when it was about 3,000 a few months ago). Mostly because eventually some players will move on to other games; it seems to me Legion is canceled( pretty much) and CCP is doing what they been doing for dust until not many people are left. |
Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
2933
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:26:00 -
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The salt is real in this thread.
I think you guys need to all relax and stop putting all your eggs in one basket.
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Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
305
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:32:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Don't even bother hoping Dust 514 will last longer than 5-years. In an effort to show CCP how much we wanted this franchise to survive we apparently shot ourselves in the foot. We stabilized the player-base with 2,400 or so active players at any given time (meaning we're no longer hemmoraging players apparently) and not only that... We made it a profitable endeavor for CCP. Which, both hilariously and ironically, may have sealed the fate of Project Legion as being in Development Hell as they're now back to focusing on Dust 514. So - paraphrasing here (and of course just speculation) - we basically showed them that we were so loyal and dedicated to this franchise that they're now no-longer working on any long-term survivability and are just focusing on keeping Dust 514 as their cash cow, keeping our interests by fixing it. We are at this point, for lack of a better word, just job security. At least, that's the only conclusion I can personally bring up at this point since they apparently have nothing else to say on the matter. We've a shelf life now. An expiration date.
If we are their job security wouldn't CCP want to push for the long-term survivability of this game? If they end this game they are losing the opportunity to have myself and others pay their rent or mortgage. |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
520
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:33:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Dude don't lie. You still have hope and that's what they are banking on. Cause honestly to many, this game died a long time ago. Nah, I'm done. For real this time. I might still play but I'm definitely not investing any more money so they can try to wrap their heads around what they want to do. No sense in wasting my time and effort into it if it's going no where. Fun benefit of being terrified of commitment is that you can't honestly expect anyone else to commit to it either and that being said, why should I commit any more time and effort to a company that doesn't know what they want?
Yea dude. Doesn't that suck? There's no solid direction. I can't tell which way things are going.
First it was Legion, being the vision of Dust at the optimum level Now its shelved and Dust is the focus because the consumers are paying. Its ridiculous and is it a stretch to say, a bit of a slap to the face?
Saying what's on people's minds
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
520
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:35:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Don't even bother hoping Dust 514 will last longer than 5-years. In an effort to show CCP how much we wanted this franchise to survive we apparently shot ourselves in the foot. We stabilized the player-base with 2,400 or so active players at any given time (meaning we're no longer hemmoraging players apparently) and not only that... We made it a profitable endeavor for CCP. Which, both hilariously and ironically, may have sealed the fate of Project Legion as being in Development Hell as they're now back to focusing on Dust 514. So - paraphrasing here (and of course just speculation) - we basically showed them that we were so loyal and dedicated to this franchise that they're now no-longer working on any long-term survivability and are just focusing on keeping Dust 514 as their cash cow, keeping our interests by fixing it. We are at this point, for lack of a better word, just job security. At least, that's the only conclusion I can personally bring up at this point since they apparently have nothing else to say on the matter. We've a shelf life now. An expiration date. If we are their job security wouldn't CCP want to push for the long-term survivability of this game? If they end this game they are losing the opportunity to have myself and others pay their rent or mortgage.
OMG dude are you zombie bro? You are perfectly fine with spending your cash on this game? This is why the devs won't change. The player base is full of the gullible
Saying what's on people's minds
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:35:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:I'll give a quick parallel here: PoS revamp.
EVE players have been complaining about it for years. All that time being told "It's legacy code" and "we are working on it"
That's it. No updates as to what they did, no little insights to the new system. Nothing.
Come this year at Fanfest, they show off dozens of new goodies, a completely redesigned system, and come Saturday will be unveiling the finer details of their whole plan.
Before they were ready they gave EVE players NOTHING to hope for in regards to that feature coming around. Just words of "we're working on it but we won't show you anything"
Second Example: New SoV system.
Again same thing, just words that they were "working on it" and "it will be done when we are happy with it" but other than that no changes until they were ready to release phase one. Then again, nothing news wise on that front. Then again, bam, one dev blog later they open the flood gates on their system when they are confident in it.
TLDR: CCP of today doesn't tell you crap unless they are ready with the product. Until they you might get confirmation that they are working on it, but they seem committed to no empty promises. However that commitment means they also won't share any features they are working on unless they are actually ready for release in the coming weeks / months.
Key difference: PC isn't outdated hardware, yo. There is no "PC4" to replace it.
CCP is trying to save a freaggin dinosaur on a console that was made a decade ago. Let that sink in for a moment...
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
Founder of AIV
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Avallo Kantor
534
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:38:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Summa Militum wrote:If we are their job security wouldn't CCP want to push for the long-term survivability of this game? If they end this game they are losing the opportunity to have myself and others pay their rent or mortgage. OMG dude are you zombie bro? You are perfectly fine with spending your cash on this game? This is why the devs won't change. The player base is full of the gullible
Shocking, people spend money for things they like?
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
1798
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:38:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:The salt is real in this thread.
I think you guys need to all relax and stop putting all your eggs in one basket.
We have more than one basket???
Time for a platform jump. Dust to WiiU!
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
520
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:44:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Summa Militum wrote:If we are their job security wouldn't CCP want to push for the long-term survivability of this game? If they end this game they are losing the opportunity to have myself and others pay their rent or mortgage. OMG dude are you zombie bro? You are perfectly fine with spending your cash on this game? This is why the devs won't change. The player base is full of the gullible Shocking, people spend money for things they like?
Lol dude, do you even understand the contextual theme of this thread?
Saying what's on people's minds
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5518
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:44:00 -
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Good lord this is melodramatic.
Is Dust fun for you to play? If so, keep playing, enjoy it for what it is. If not, don't play.
If you have to hand some grand vision of what the future might hold in order to enjoy day to day gameplay, stop playing. This isn't like your mom telling you to eat your broccoli so you can get dessert. If you don't like what you're consuming right now, don't play. If the game isn't fun for you right now, don't play.
Also, we're CCP job security? So what you're saying is that....if a product appeals to consumers enough that they spend money on it....and people then spend money, thus making the product profitable, which then encourages the company to keep having people work on said product.....in order to make more money.... which assures those people will be able to keep working....to make money.............Wait a second, that's how EVERY COMPANY EVER WORKS.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast
www.biomassed.net
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2715
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:52:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Don't even bother hoping Dust 514 will last longer than 5-years. In an effort to show CCP how much we wanted this franchise to survive we apparently shot ourselves in the foot. We stabilized the player-base with 2,400 or so active players at any given time (meaning we're no longer hemmoraging players apparently) and not only that... We made it a profitable endeavor for CCP. Which, both hilariously and ironically, may have sealed the fate of Project Legion as being in Development Hell as they're now back to focusing on Dust 514. So - paraphrasing here (and of course just speculation) - we basically showed them that we were so loyal and dedicated to this franchise that they're now no-longer working on any long-term survivability and are just focusing on keeping Dust 514 as their cash cow, keeping our interests by fixing it. We are at this point, for lack of a better word, just job security. At least, that's the only conclusion I can personally bring up at this point since they apparently have nothing else to say on the matter. We've a shelf life now. An expiration date.
Legion will come, because Dust won't live forever. And if it's profitable CCP won't kill the game. And due to Legion being the same game anyways... yeah. Wait a year or two, then they'll talk about Legion.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
527
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:58:00 -
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Well, EVE has pretty much been their cash cow hold out for the last five or so years. Same stale player base of Mittani kissas*es sitting in the safety of their null sec empire stalemating the whole game with their brand of "emergent gameplay".
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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AndyAndio
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
169
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:01:00 -
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- Stop being salty
- Leave Dust forums
- Find another game
- Have fun
- ???
- Profit
2013 DUST 514's MVP of the Year.-
Retired for Love of the Game
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9285
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:02:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Good lord this is melodramatic.
Is Dust fun for you to play? If so, keep playing, enjoy it for what it is. If not, don't play.
If you have to hand some grand vision of what the future might hold in order to enjoy day to day gameplay, stop playing. This isn't like your mom telling you to eat your broccoli so you can get dessert. If you don't like what you're consuming right now, don't play. If the game isn't fun for you right now, don't play.
Also, we're CCP job security? So what you're saying is that....if a product appeals to consumers enough that they spend money on it....and people then spend money, thus making the product profitable, which then encourages the company to keep having people work on said product.....in order to make more money.... which assures those people will be able to keep working....to make money.............Wait a second, that's how EVERY COMPANY EVER WORKS.
Oh, cool, so now Pokey is playing the Blind Faith card.
Please don't come at me with this "if it's not fun don't play" BS, Pokey, seriously. Some of us are in it for a little bit more than the casual experience, hate to break your heart. Some of us actually played this game for the longevity, the character progression, and the genuine sense of ownership and belonging in this fictional world that was created. I'm sorry if that slaughters your little isolated view of how games have to be played and I genuinely do apologize if you only play video games for a fifteen minute thrill but for the love of christ don't come in here acting like you're god's gift to gaming with why people should or should not play video games.
Seriously. My level of respect for you dropped like, a dozen levels just now.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
Founder of AIV
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
520
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:04:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Good lord this is melodramatic.
Is Dust fun for you to play? If so, keep playing, enjoy it for what it is. If not, don't play.
If you have to hand some grand vision of what the future might hold in order to enjoy day to day gameplay, stop playing. This isn't like your mom telling you to eat your broccoli so you can get dessert. If you don't like what you're consuming right now, don't play. If the game isn't fun for you right now, don't play.
Also, we're CCP job security? So what you're saying is that....if a product appeals to consumers enough that they spend money on it....and people then spend money, thus making the product profitable, which then encourages the company to keep having people work on said product.....in order to make more money.... which assures those people will be able to keep working....to make money.............Wait a second, that's how EVERY COMPANY EVER WORKS.
A product or person has never grown surrounded by yes men.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
702
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:06:00 -
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Maybe change forums?
Here what Eve players says aobut us... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=403236&find=unread
Just go out the box...
Not much time left...
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
1798
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:15:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Good lord this is melodramatic.
Is Dust fun for you to play? If so, keep playing, enjoy it for what it is. If not, don't play.
If you have to hand some grand vision of what the future might hold in order to enjoy day to day gameplay, stop playing. This isn't like your mom telling you to eat your broccoli so you can get dessert. If you don't like what you're consuming right now, don't play. If the game isn't fun for you right now, don't play.
Also, we're CCP job security? So what you're saying is that....if a product appeals to consumers enough that they spend money on it....and people then spend money, thus making the product profitable, which then encourages the company to keep having people work on said product.....in order to make more money.... which assures those people will be able to keep working....to make money.............Wait a second, that's how EVERY COMPANY EVER WORKS.
Oh, cool, so now Pokey is playing the Blind Faith card. Please don't come at me with this "if it's not fun don't play" BS, Pokey, seriously. Some of us are in it for a little bit more than the casual experience, hate to break your heart. Some of us actually played this game for the longevity, the character progression, and the genuine sense of ownership and belonging in this fictional world that was created. I'm sorry if that slaughters your little isolated view of how games have to be played and I genuinely do apologize if you only play video games for a fifteen minute thrill but for the love of christ don't come in here acting like you're god's gift to gaming with why people should or should not play video games. Seriously. My level of respect for you dropped like, a dozen levels just now.
Aeon, I've never seen you lose your cool in such a pedantic way, and imply a different persons personal feelings without even a hint of evidence at them.
Youve officially gone into bamm havoc insanity land.
May i suggest you log iut the forums, go get sihtcan hammered, and have a copious amount of sex, then return with a better state of mind.
And if not, then its time for you to leave the community as you plan on cutting back your gameplay regardless at this point.
Time for a platform jump. Dust to WiiU!
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
488
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:17:00 -
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No offense meant to the author of that website article you linked (or to ANY website journalist/critic who thinks they can properly assess/ conclude/ forecast a gameplay innovation that's never been tried before)GǪ butGǪ
It's naysaying.
This game is an EVE-based idea. EVE-based games have always (always?GǪ there's only been ONE, Celesta!) been a cult-following, not a grand stellar game that becomes a giant in the market for years to come. EVE-Online is a quirky game that has built a committed band of followers internationallyGǪ. but is just a humble-size gaming group compared to what companies consider "applauded success". It's followers and repeat addicts make it last so many years. Not it's actual numbers (50% hardcore capsuleers + 50% constantly leaving new players, from what Capsuleers experinced through the years).
Dust was (still is) a very weird-principled game idea that had to be "sold" to its console manufacturer Sony, and has to be regularly re-sold to them each time CCP wants to add a new mechanic or gameplay content. With that kind of "3rd-party arranger" you have to keep requesting assistance and data from, it's no wonder the Dust idea feels demoralized and ready to retreat to PC one year, then turns around and re-convinces the creators another year, etc, etc. Unless the authors of these articles, (and we the PS3 players who swallow the articles) are EVE-Online Capsuleers, none of us can say whether EVE went through this IDENTICAL evolution during its first 5 years. (I've recently heard that our player base is about 50% hardcore Dusters + 50% new players who are constantly leaving/replaced----sounds familiar to...).
Don't give too much thumbs up to any writer's fight-doctor reports on Dust. I know they mean well (), but literally, LITERALLY, a game like this has never been tried before. Lots of writers implied this game was too danged weird and too non-traditional to ever last 8 months. I had PS3 Dusters telling me "Celesta, you do realize we will never have trading or PC with EVE in this game---you do realize that, right? And, the player base is losing numbers by 1000 every month since they mentioned Legion, right Celesta? And by January 2015, we're all going to be playing this game on PC, cuz scrap-salvage, asset-resale are too far beyond a PS3's capability, you do know that, right Celesta?"
GǪ.if you insist, sure.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2759
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:19:00 -
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Legion on PC: Bound to fail due to stiff competition and lack of serious server security. Star Citizen just won't leave enough room for it, even if its FPS parts end up being 10% as good as they look.
Dust on PS3: Days are numbered. PS3 is old. They just can't do what they want here.
Valkyrie: Bound to flop due to stiff competition. There is no way it will compete with Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous. It being VR just isn't enough to make it worth playing over the alternatives... Especially when VR consoles are still in their infancy.
EVE: Not going anywhere. It is too solidly in its own niche with its own very strong fan base.
Dust/Legion on PS4: In a HUGE market where the only competition would be Planetside 2 and Blacklight Retribution (and maybe Warframe a little), a good F2P game with the complexity and style of the New Eden Universe has a good chance at being successful. Not only that, but CCP could finally make the game that they originally wanted.
Home at Last <3
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9285
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Good lord this is melodramatic.
Is Dust fun for you to play? If so, keep playing, enjoy it for what it is. If not, don't play.
If you have to hand some grand vision of what the future might hold in order to enjoy day to day gameplay, stop playing. This isn't like your mom telling you to eat your broccoli so you can get dessert. If you don't like what you're consuming right now, don't play. If the game isn't fun for you right now, don't play.
Also, we're CCP job security? So what you're saying is that....if a product appeals to consumers enough that they spend money on it....and people then spend money, thus making the product profitable, which then encourages the company to keep having people work on said product.....in order to make more money.... which assures those people will be able to keep working....to make money.............Wait a second, that's how EVERY COMPANY EVER WORKS.
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Aeon, I've never seen you lose your cool in such a pedantic way, and imply a different persons personal feelings without even a hint of evidence at them.
Youve officially gone into bamm havoc insanity land.
May i suggest you log iut the forums, go get sihtcan hammered, and have a copious amount of sex, then return with a better state of mind.
And if not, then its time for you to leave the community as you plan on cutting back your gameplay regardless at this point.
My sincerest apologies if this seems melodramatic - my bad for caring about the time, effort, and money that I invested into this little experiment and being concerned as to what all of it was worth. Allow me to sarcastically ask for your forgiveness for needing slightly more reassurance than "eh, maybe" toward something that has been about three years (that's 1/8th or about 12%) of my life. Even longer on Eve Online (started in 2006).
Do you think you can take a moment out of your time to acknowledge that a man is basically begging for your forgiveness that he was being melodramatic over something that's had a significant impact on their actual life and actually inspired some life decisions (going to school for game design)? Do you think you can do that or is that too melodramatic for you as well? Does that infringe on your concept of masculinity and what is or is not acceptable for a person to be concerned about what is, at this point, basically a lifestyle?
Or are is that pedantic as well? Am I not allowed to be frustrated over something that is entirely out of my control over something that I genuinely love simply because it's a video game and that's -too weird- for you..?
Yeah, I implied a person's personal feelings. Generally what happens when that person basically devalues what is cause of concern for another player. You can't just up and walk in, tell someone the political correct equivalent of "quit being a baby" and then expect them not to get a little twinged. But yanno, feel free to keep that up, I'm sure I'll make a big turn around any minute now and legitimately apologize.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
Founder of AIV
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1328
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:44:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Good lord this is melodramatic.
Is Dust fun for you to play? If so, keep playing, enjoy it for what it is. If not, don't play.
If you have to hand some grand vision of what the future might hold in order to enjoy day to day gameplay, stop playing. This isn't like your mom telling you to eat your broccoli so you can get dessert. If you don't like what you're consuming right now, don't play. If the game isn't fun for you right now, don't play.
Also, we're CCP job security? So what you're saying is that....if a product appeals to consumers enough that they spend money on it....and people then spend money, thus making the product profitable, which then encourages the company to keep having people work on said product.....in order to make more money.... which assures those people will be able to keep working....to make money.............Wait a second, that's how EVERY COMPANY EVER WORKS.
| Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Aeon, I've never seen you lose your cool in such a pedantic way, and imply a different persons personal feelings without even a hint of evidence at them.
Youve officially gone into bamm havoc insanity land.
May i suggest you log iut the forums, go get sihtcan hammered, and have a copious amount of sex, then return with a better state of mind.
And if not, then its time for you to leave the community as you plan on cutting back your gameplay regardless at this point.
My sincerest apologies if this seems melodramatic - my bad for caring about the time, effort, and money that I invested into this little experiment and being concerned as to what all of it was worth. Allow me to sarcastically ask for your forgiveness for needing slightly more reassurance than "eh, maybe" toward something that has been about three years (that's 1/8th or about 12%) of my life. Even longer on Eve Online (started in 2006). Do you think you can take a moment out of your time to acknowledge that a man is basically begging for your forgiveness that he was being melodramatic over something that's had a significant impact on their actual life and actually inspired some life decisions (going to school for game design)? Do you think you can do that or is that too melodramatic for you as well? Does that infringe on your concept of masculinity and what is or is not acceptable for a person to be concerned about what is, at this point, basically a lifestyle? Or are is that pedantic as well? Am I not allowed to be frustrated over something that is entirely out of my control over something that I genuinely love simply because it's a video game and that's -too weird- for you..? Yeah, I implied a person's personal feelings. Generally what happens when that person basically devalues what is cause of concern for another player. You can't just up and walk in, tell someone the political correct equivalent of "quit being a baby" and then expect them not to get a little twinged. But yanno, feel free to keep that up, I'm sure I'll make a big turn around any minute now and legitimately apologize. EDIT: And please, -PLEASE- say something about how I need to re-evaluate my life for putting such a high priority on a video game. That'll -definitely- make me turn around and suddenly go all rational and apologetic/sympathetic toward what you're trying to say.
Not trying to slight how you feel, or what you think, as I know that all things impact us all differently. What I will say as you seem to be a bit younger than I am is...put full stock into things in your life but always with the knowledge that they will end. Attachment is a control issue, and eventually you just have to let things go. Everything will end, and knowing that is what allows you to really enjoy things.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Reign Omega wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Good lord this is melodramatic.
Is Dust fun for you to play? If so, keep playing, enjoy it for what it is. If not, don't play.
If you have to hand some grand vision of what the future might hold in order to enjoy day to day gameplay, stop playing. This isn't like your mom telling you to eat your broccoli so you can get dessert. If you don't like what you're consuming right now, don't play. If the game isn't fun for you right now, don't play.
Also, we're CCP job security? So what you're saying is that....if a product appeals to consumers enough that they spend money on it....and people then spend money, thus making the product profitable, which then encourages the company to keep having people work on said product.....in order to make more money.... which assures those people will be able to keep working....to make money.............Wait a second, that's how EVERY COMPANY EVER WORKS.
| Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Aeon, I've never seen you lose your cool in such a pedantic way, and imply a different persons personal feelings without even a hint of evidence at them.
Youve officially gone into bamm havoc insanity land.
May i suggest you log iut the forums, go get sihtcan hammered, and have a copious amount of sex, then return with a better state of mind.
And if not, then its time for you to leave the community as you plan on cutting back your gameplay regardless at this point.
My sincerest apologies if this seems melodramatic - my bad for caring about the time, effort, and money that I invested into this little experiment and being concerned as to what all of it was worth. Allow me to sarcastically ask for your forgiveness for needing slightly more reassurance than "eh, maybe" toward something that has been about three years (that's 1/8th or about 12%) of my life. Even longer on Eve Online (started in 2006). Do you think you can take a moment out of your time to acknowledge that a man is basically begging for your forgiveness that he was being melodramatic over something that's had a significant impact on their actual life and actually inspired some life decisions (going to school for game design)? Do you think you can do that or is that too melodramatic for you as well? Does that infringe on your concept of masculinity and what is or is not acceptable for a person to be concerned about what is, at this point, basically a lifestyle? Or are is that pedantic as well? Am I not allowed to be frustrated over something that is entirely out of my control over something that I genuinely love simply because it's a video game and that's -too weird- for you..? Yeah, I implied a person's personal feelings. Generally what happens when that person basically devalues what is cause of concern for another player. You can't just up and walk in, tell someone the political correct equivalent of "quit being a baby" and then expect them not to get a little twinged. But yanno, feel free to keep that up, I'm sure I'll make a big turn around any minute now and legitimately apologize. EDIT: And please, -PLEASE- say something about how I need to re-evaluate my life for putting such a high priority on a video game. That'll -definitely- make me turn around and suddenly go all rational and apologetic/sympathetic toward what you're trying to say. Not trying to slight how you feel, or what you think, as I know that all things impact us all differently. What I will say as you seem to be a bit younger than I am is...put full stock into things in your life but always with the knowledge that they will end. Attachment is a control issue, and eventually you just have to let things go. Everything will end, and knowing that is what allows you to really enjoy things.
Only legitimate logic I've heard all day, even if it is bittersweet. Thanks for that.
Just really can't stand whenever someone comes barging in and starts taking stock on how much someone else should care about something.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
Founder of AIV
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