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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:44:00 -
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Good lord this is melodramatic.
Is Dust fun for you to play? If so, keep playing, enjoy it for what it is. If not, don't play.
If you have to hand some grand vision of what the future might hold in order to enjoy day to day gameplay, stop playing.
This isn't like your mom telling you to eat your broccoli so you can get dessert.
If you don't like what you're consuming right now, don't play.
If the game isn't fun for you right now, don't play.
Also, we're CCP job security? So what you're saying is that....if a product appeals to consumers enough that they spend money on it....and people then spend money, thus making the product profitable, which then encourages the company to keep having people work on said product.....in order to make more money.... which assures those people will be able to keep working....to make money.............Wait a second, that's how EVERY COMPANY EVER WORKS.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast
www.biomassed.net
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:38:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Oh, cool, so now Pokey is playing the Blind Faith card.
Please don't come at me with this "if it's not fun don't play" BS, Pokey, seriously. Some of us are in it for a little bit more than the casual experience, hate to break your heart. Some of us actually played this game for the longevity, the character progression, and the genuine sense of ownership and belonging in this fictional world that was created. I'm sorry if that slaughters your little isolated view of how games have to be played and I genuinely do apologize if you only play video games for a fifteen minute thrill but for the love of christ don't come in here acting like you're god's gift to gaming with why people should or should not play video games.
Seriously. My level of respect for you dropped like, a dozen levels just now.
Oh, cool, so now Aeon is playing the Blind Pessimism card.
Like seriously you take Hilmar saying "We're focusing on Dust and we want to give the players the best experience possible" as "Haha screw you guys, we're gonna stop trying to improve the game and milk you as long as possible". I mean what are you saying? That we're just going to cease adding new features now because the game is in the black? Toss out the roadmap because they're making money? Give me a break.
I actually play the game because I enjoy the gameplay, not because I hate it and I'm waiting for it to get better. Do I want it to get better? Of course, not sure how much time you spend in Feedback but I like to think I'm actually quite active in many facets of balance and design for the game, because I wan't to help it get better, because I do actually like the game and want it to do well. If that makes me a casual, then I guess I'm a pretty filthy casual.
And your respect for me dropped a dozen levels because I don't agree with your knee-jerk pessimism? Oh noes! 
Don't worry though, I've come to expect such behavior from you so my level of respect for you is completely unchanged from where it was after you flipped out post CPM-1 Elections.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast
www.biomassed.net
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:43:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Weird, I read that article and thought for the first time that they seemed to be coming to their senses and at least consider a PS4 port a possibility.
Aeon seems to think that when companies make money on a product, that they reduce support for it. The only chance Dust has of actually progressing if it became profitable. I can't understand why people think this could be construed as a bad thing in any way.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast
www.biomassed.net
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:09:00 -
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Aeon, listen. I know you care about the game deeply, and that's good. The problem I have with this is that CCP makes a few comments and you seem to take it in the absolute worst way possible. It's this "HOLY ******* **** WE'RE ALL GETTING SCREWED OVER!" arm flailing mentality that spooks the company into not saying anything at all, because even "Oh yeah we're profitable now" somehow sends you into a rant about how it's the end of days for Dust.
Should they talk more? Absolutely. But I feel like you often approach this sort of thing with an emotionally driven mindset, which leads to rather over the top and often bombastic threads like this one, when there is very little concrete evidence to support what you're either implying or saying outright. Again I understand that you're very emotionally engaged in the whole situation, and am I overly optimistic? Probably. But these sort of outbursts and trying to rile up the community in a Chicken Little-like fashion is not going to help anyone.
I guess what I'm saying is....is you really need to take a chill pill. If you have legitimate concerns, even if they're wrapped in a bit of tinfoil, it's fine to state them in a clear an objective manner. But this sort of emotionally driven conjecture often presented as fact serves to do nothing but freak people out, often unduly, because of the assumptions being made. The fact remains that we don't have all of the information about what's going on within the company or what their intentions are. We can make assumptions and piece together tidbits of information, but ultimately they're potentially incorrect interpretations.
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Am i completely satisfied with the way things are? No, of course not, I would love to have more development. But I also understand that there are limitations, money being a big part of it. Many people, yourself included, want leaps and bounds of progress being made, but truthfully from what I know about business, CCP and namely its shareholders are scared shitless, and they're not going to take any more chances since apparently up to this point, Dust has been in the red.
Rattati has obviously done a lot to change that, and obviously has been successful. A company, it is far easier to make the call to invest additional resources into a project if the project is actively making money. The move from being in the red to being in the black was the first small step but the end effect is likely far larger. The fact remains that the game and development team was completely FUBAR'd and just now are things starting to look half organized enough to start moving forward with expanding things out. It's going to be slow at first and I know people are very frustrated, but things ARE improving, even if you don't personally agree with everything that's happening.
The point I was making is that you basically sound completely dissatisfied with the game in it's current state, and my point was that if that's how you feel, then you'll likely never be completely satisfied. The game itself is enjoyable to me, that's why I put so much effort into it because I want to make it better. Hell I don't know if you listen to our Podcast but we've been talking about this **** ever week for 45 weeks, because we want to make the game better. But I feel like a lot of people just don't like the game but are hanging on for it to become something it's just not. Maybe I misinterpreted your initial intent, but it feels like you land closer to the latter category. If not, than I apologize.
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I know you care man, and I don't mean to **** in your cheerios. But you really just need to take a deep breath and relax.
Also I think it's great that you're following your dreams to get into video game design. I know you've been doing some UI stuff and whatnot. And being unemployed sucks, I was without work for over a year and a half after graduating college. I do hope you find something soon, just try not to let the stress of it get to you.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast
www.biomassed.net
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