just about everything else i think was perfect, but why not have it mirror wow directly as white=mlt green=std yellow=adv red=pro purple=experimental blue=officer

oh and also how is having 5 damage types more simple than having 4? and the tactical overlay would be awesome always. you could activate it by pressing O on the controller while not at an installation.

And rattati, i forgot about clothes/faces.
Right now dust mercs with faces are an exclusive club. you can easily tell players with strong ties to EVE by our faces. I would like my Dust character to have a face, but more importantly i want to be able to wear outfits in social areas(like my MQ) or have modifications like my robot arm applied to my dust character (I bought the EVE CE, I'm ***still*** holding onto that code, PLEASE let me use it to give my merc a robot arm.) clothes and prosthetics dont use assets that dont already exist, in fact theyre in EVE already

[This line assumed to be filled with more obsessing on wanting my robot arm from eve to be applicable to my dust merc]

There is literally mountains of ways to increase New Eden immersion.

Unfortunately most of them require game additions and overhauls that have either been problematic or have proven impossible on the PS3.

Like adding more weapons. It adds yet more sh*t that the database system has to page through and front-load to matches despite the fact that we need them.

The more fittings and variables that have to be loaded the more performance suffers.

It's obstacles like this that I wish players were more aware of. It's like the lock warning for dropships thing. Most players are still unaware that this was tested and went rather disastrously.

Knowing where the system's ability to handle modifications to the client and page from the server would be IMMENSELY helpful when providing input and ideas for integration of more neat new eden things.

I think this simplification would actually increase revenue to CCP.

My 1v1 comment refers to "if it is in EVE Online we must have it exactly the same following the same rules"

I think we should be inspired but not overruled by EVE.

How can EVE inspire us in a different way then just with modules and rules, and make you think while in game and in MQ, "this is New Eden"

To be clear...that is NOT what drew many of us to this game originally or how this was sold to the first generation of the community.

I would also reference you to the public comments made even by CCP Rouge that he did, in fact, want the game to be an "EVE FPS".

That doesn't mean shoehorning naval combat concepts from EVE into a ground combat game. To me at least it means that the tone and themes of EVE / New Eden should strongly reverberate throughout the game. There seems to be a notion that some prescribe to that believes you can't have a good FPS game if it's an "EVE FPS". I challenge this notion.

What makes EVE the game that it is and what should be carried over to DUST?
- Tools given to players that foster building communities bonded by the game
- Meaningful and impactful individual decisions and group conflict
- Clearly delineated racial and faction themes and styles of combat that can all be fun and useful
- a deep and far reaching storyline that continually has threads laced in from the players themselves

GǪWow.

Don't mistake me for being ANTI-Lore (I'm not). But,GǪ I assumed from his words and from the discussion attempts in the Fanfest video, that Rattati was looking for a way to bring EVE Lore atmosphere to the game WITHOUT trying to align Dust to be more like EVE-Online.

Most of the post ideas I read here are very nice (kudos), but most of them seem to be asking for a mechanics-reworking or playstyle-behavior that more closely resembles EVE's mechanics. In other words, you're inadvertently proposing that Dust be more like EVE-Online.

GǪI thought Rattati was only asking to have more Lore flavor in Dust, not more EVE-alignment in Dust.

I'll point out that a 3rd line of conversation is emerging.


1) Immersion:
Making Dust players more aware of the New Eden Universe in general. Bringing elements to Dust that are accurate reflections of NewEden's existing and evolving nature, inhabitants, and storylines.


2) Cross Platform Cooperation:
The so called "EVE Link". Methods of interaction and communication between New Eden Game Platforms.

1. How can we strengthen the EVE lore connection, without enforcing 1 to 1 relationships. (which essentially means having connections to NEW EDEN as in the universe, without having people whining about the game not being 'gritty' enough)

This was my response to that question in a separate thread.

Player control, plain and simple. Take for instance FW, a way to strengthen the Eve connection would be to allow players to initiate fights in specific systems. This would benefit in several ways, the first being it allows Dust players to forge their own narrative in how Planetary FW progresses. This would make the game much closer to the spirit of New Eden without needing to change anything stylistically. Secondly it would strengthen the actual connection to eve. Once players in either game have the ability to coordinate you will beggin to see more cross talk. Eve pilots will support the Dust Bunnies for the easy LP with Orbital strikes. FW Dust Bunnies will launch attacks in systems they can get support in. Fights will ensue in Space and the Surface it seems like a win all around. All of this would result without adding much in the way of mechanics (The tools are almost all there, just lacking one crucial element.)

Essentially if you want Dust to be more Eve like without requiring it to look like Eve, Player driven is the key phrase. If you want to draw inspiration from Eve take the design philosophy of sandbox as far as you can go with the tech you have. The rest (such as the jumping) is just aesthetic.

My 1v1 comment refers to "if it is in EVE Online we must have it exactly the same following the same rules"

I think we should be inspired but not overruled by EVE.

How can EVE inspire us in a different way then just with modules and rules, and make you think while in game and in MQ, "this is New Eden"

The simplest answer to this is make people think and give them the tools to innovate. Most of the rest can be reconciled...

... Do that and it will not matter if the laser isn't purple or if the damage control module is passive instead of active. Get the spirit of it right the rest will fall into place.

I think the first thing is to dramatically reduce the number of star systems that battles are fought in at any point in time, and the sides in the battles.

There should be just a handful of wars going on at any point in time. Each war should be in a single constellation, or even in a single system, with all battles in the war between the same sides. A war should continue for anything from a few days to a few weeks. New wars should start as old ones end, though not necessarily immediately.

Before each war, create a quick backstory article; post it on the forums, and on Evelopedia. During the course of the war, additional updates can be posted, and then a final post describing the conclusion.

All of the above can probably be done with no changes to the PS3 client; it should all be server-side changes to the code that creates battles.

This would make the battles feel much more connected to the New Eden universe, and therefore to Eve.

My 1v1 comment refers to "if it is in EVE Online we must have it exactly the same following the same rules"

I think we should be inspired but not overruled by EVE.

How can EVE inspire us in a different way then just with modules and rules, and make you think while in game and in MQ, "this is New Eden"

I think you raise the central existential dilemma facing DUST.

My 1v1 comment refers to "if it is in EVE Online we must have it exactly the same following the same rules"

I think we should be inspired but not overruled by EVE.

How can EVE inspire us in a different way then just with modules and rules, and make you think while in game and in MQ, "this is New Eden"

We need Sky Boxes that are region Specific.And Maps that are Region(Faction)specific

https://youtu.be/x_RgGJpoUeg?t=18m22s


Rattati asked this question at Fanfest 2015:

How can we strengthen the EVE lore connection without enforcing 1 to 1 relationships?


go for it!

More than just about anything in life right now I want Rattati to notice this thread. This is a culmination of what Dust could be if steps in the right direction continue to be taken. It's threads like this that lead me to believe that perhaps there is still hope for Dust to be everything that I had dreamed for it to become back in beta.