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FLAY LOCKED
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:28:00 -
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are those who haven't skilled into them
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:30:00 -
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Talking out arse is fun.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:47:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'.
what your suggesting is everyone skill into them, so everyone is jumping. which ruins the gameplay for say. everyone??
sounds good yea +1
Its ok, I'm a ninja
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
22663
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:54:00 -
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I don't even have them at proto and I still adore them.
Gallente Guide
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Cassa-Nova
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:56:00 -
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only have lvl 3 and omg its on all my suits
Amarr Faction Suit Colour Schemes
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2545
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:58:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'.
Says the guy named FLAY LOCKED loooool
Exlposive spam much in Hotfix Echo?
PSN: RationalSpark
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2651
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:15:00 -
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"You're just mad that you don't have them skilled."
I'll remember this one when the Nerf AScR crowd comes along sometime next week.
Keep your silly jump mods. I'll burn you out of the sky anyways. And I'll be using them, myself, so yeah. Don't cry when my Amarr Assault with 1000 HP jumps 20m into the air and obliterates you with amazing AScR hipfire.
OPitemsftw!
Home at Last <3
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
1188
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:15:00 -
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I have them to level 3 and I believe it is ridiculous how high someone can jump.
The Forums are a special place.
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
796
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:18:00 -
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I maxed them to Level 3 and bought 200 from the LP of Minmatar FW.
I put it on my Caldari Quafe and @_@ I was jumping like crazy.
luckly this heavy got me good with the flaylock xD
I love the module = Its not OP = If you say OP then spend SP and give it a shot cause this can eliminate roof top camping and its great to kill Snipers >_>... xD
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Samantha Hunyz
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
178
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:17:00 -
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Played a few matches. This game is almost a COD clone. 360 no scope sniping when?
When I look down my scope, all I see are dead people.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3143
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:25:00 -
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Careful, they go straight to your thighs.
Dust is there! I was real!
Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2548
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:29:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:I maxed them to Level 3 and bought 200 from the LP of Minmatar FW.
I put it on my Caldari Quafe and @_@ I was jumping like crazy.
luckly this heavy got me good with the flaylock xD
I love the module = Its not OP = If you say OP then spend SP and give it a shot cause this can eliminate roof top camping and its great to kill Snipers >_>... xD
I actually saw a merc perform a massive vertical leap onto a rooftop and kill a camper. It was a moment of pure beauty, put a smile on my face.
PSN: RationalSpark
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17618
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:30:00 -
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Does the skill itself modify jump height or am I okay with say Level III to get some jumps?
Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you.
Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:33:00 -
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Samantha Hunyz wrote:Played a few matches. This game is almost a COD clone. 360 no scope sniping when?
Lord, you'd need a scanning electron microscope to ferret out the difference now.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback.
4718
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:18:00 -
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This has truly added a new dimension to Dust.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
18608
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:20:00 -
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anyone doing sweet jumps?
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Everything Dies
Not Another Dust Corporation
1276
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:21:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:This has truly added a new dimension to Dust.
...but for better or worse?
Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
RISE of LEGION
2729
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:23:00 -
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Lol
Official QuafeGäó Advocate
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
358
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:30:00 -
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Minass acr and core flays. 3 complex blues and 2 reds. 1 damp and re.
Also I have found a few interesting ways to get uplinks on crazy points.
And that 454 melee is sweet. 1 melee and few flays. Then fly away! |
PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
RISE of LEGION
680
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:35:00 -
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skilled them. I just don't have any suits with enough high slots to get a nice jump. And the ones i do have are weak with all the high slots filled.
Gassault Calogi and more. Respec Pending.
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
375
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:40:00 -
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wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets
What role does the shotgun have in team play? NONE. Remove it.
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
124
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:24:00 -
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CCP
FIX something! |
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
18618
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:26:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets
Yes, why didn't we fix starter loadouts for new players or anything
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
8990
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:26:00 -
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So much win
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
Founder of AIV
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maluble
Art.of.Death
219
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:38:00 -
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Awesome, almost forgot about that movie. |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:41:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets Yes, why didn't we fix starter loadouts for new players or anything
The only thing that will help noobs is their own game mode.
No new AV player in the history of ever is going to crack a halfway intelligently piloted tank now lol. So. Many. TANKS.
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Proto Annihilator
16 Vandals
686
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:43:00 -
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thehellisgoingon wrote:Minass acr and core flays. 3 complex blues and 2 reds. 1 damp and re.
Also I have found a few interesting ways to get uplinks on crazy points.
And that 454 melee is sweet. 1 melee and few flays. Then fly away!
Bouncing bananas!
World of hurt
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
7547
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:47:00 -
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Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
Lokun Listamenn
229
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:52:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets
Cool off bruh. Its a new fad toy. Give it a week and caldari will stop getting chewed up all Tue time and put their shields back on. The only ones who will still be flying are the minja, and as tired as iI've been of getting my leg shot while trying to jp away from someone shooting me, I love it.
BTW a special tip just for you, since you're a special person: when you see someone flying, aim for where tthey're going to land.
Myofibs increase the jump height, not how far you can fall before taking damage. In other words, flying calscouts break their shield when they land. If for no other reason, that will make every class that's not used to dying almost instantaneously put them away after they've had their fun.
As a side bonus, minja got a cool new toy today. Thanks rattati 
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
797
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:59:00 -
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Just killed Sniper Hunter 300. He was in his caldari tank and boom. One shot one kill with my basic Plasma cannon xD
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
592
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Posted - 2015.03.13 03:35:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'.
I haven't skilled into them and I love them. Easier to hit those flying monkeys with my HMG and tank because they can't change the place of fall. They commit to the jump and then if they don't do something crazy mid air (99% don't) they just become easier targets ;)
Story of your life
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1147
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Posted - 2015.03.13 03:38:00 -
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Cypher Nil wrote:FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'. what your suggesting is everyone skill into them, so everyone is jumping. which ruins the gameplay for say. everyone?? sounds good yea +1
Slow, floating ducks are hard to hit?
Don't try sniping man, you won't survive the ordeal if you think these are tough to hit from a little bouncing.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
375
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Posted - 2015.03.13 04:01:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets Yes, why didn't we fix starter loadouts for new players or anything
you raise the new guys a foot and the vets get three
What role does the shotgun have in team play? NONE. Remove it.
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
232
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Posted - 2015.03.13 06:39:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets Yes, why didn't we fix starter loadouts for new players or anything you raise the new guys a foot and the vets get three
Vets are playing around with a toy that makes them easier to shoot bc theyre floating and easier to kill bc they take damage when they hit the ground... Problem? basic medium frames(used by new players) got revamped, cloaks at lower tiers got fitting adjustments(for new players) starter fits redone(for new players)... Im not feelin ya here.
But from someone who doesn't understand how shotguns are viable in team play this isn't surprising. BTW gal assault has enough range to blap shields off incoming targets as allies chew them up, galmandos have enough power behind a shotty to make a sentinel think twice, and oh yeah that scout who's flanking the group your squad is up against. But yeah... No purpose in team play. Not to mention gal logis using it for self defense if their squadmates are getting dropped around them by some pesky scout, since who is most likely to detect them first? Fix your sig bro, shotguns are immensely valuable to gallente players and scouts alike
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
931
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Posted - 2015.03.13 07:13:00 -
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Myrofibs are incredibly funny and incredibly stupid at the same time. I am not happy about seeing the worst parts of Destiny's PvP or COD exosuits brought to Dust 514.
Mostly because its so removed from context. Thats were the laughs come from, not from something clever or wry, but because people are litterally saying "look how stupid this is" when they hit x and take off.
Not even to say it should be removed. It should be usefull but certainly not a jump hieght as dumb as we have now. So far its with stacking complex myrofibs that make it pretty OP, and that needs to be looked at.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
646
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Posted - 2015.03.13 10:42:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Myrofibs are incredibly funny and incredibly stupid at the same time. I am not happy about seeing the worst parts of Destiny's PvP or COD exosuits brought to Dust 514.
Mostly because its so removed from context. Thats were the laughs come from, not from something clever or wry, but because people are litterally saying "look how stupid this is" when they hit x and take off.
Not even to say it should be removed. It should be usefull but certainly not a jump hieght as dumb as we have now. So far its with stacking complex myrofibs that make it pretty OP, and that needs to be looked at.
Sometimes I wonder if all the complainers are fourteen years old.
Do you people seriously not remember the time before Halo and multiplatform FPS homogenized the genre and made mobility a non-factor?
I, for one, am glad that new titles are re-discovering the joy of moving. And even better that Dust is following that trend. |
deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
44
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Posted - 2015.03.13 11:08:00 -
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Am i Understanding This Correctly.? Myofibril's arent going to get the super NERF.?
in all honesty i fell in love with it . Super fun just to prick around lol
( quick example : commando flew to the top of a building thinking something sweet til 5 scouts rained down on his party! lol i mean literally rain down on him lol ) great time's great time's. )
HUH whats That? ( +Pa¿è-+P)Gÿ¥ , Ahhhhh Run (-¦pâ¡-¦)Gÿ¥ , Rage quit -å(n+ƒn+¢n+ƒ*)n+ë "damn you ccp" ,
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
494
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Posted - 2015.03.13 12:00:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'.
No, it is those who think crap like jumping higher sucks for this type of game. Candy as*ed.
Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
1406
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Posted - 2015.03.13 12:16:00 -
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Somebody already saw how PT grenade frog blast assault dropship?
Saw the massdriver, designed for use with high places now works anywhere?
You killed this game.
Keep having fun, guys.
Please support fair play!
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tander09
Corrosive Synergy
RISE of LEGION
258
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Posted - 2015.03.13 12:17:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:Myrofibs are incredibly funny and incredibly stupid at the same time. I am not happy about seeing the worst parts of Destiny's PvP or COD exosuits brought to Dust 514.
Mostly because its so removed from context. Thats were the laughs come from, not from something clever or wry, but because people are litterally saying "look how stupid this is" when they hit x and take off.
Not even to say it should be removed. It should be usefull but certainly not a jump hieght as dumb as we have now. So far its with stacking complex myrofibs that make it pretty OP, and that needs to be looked at. Sometimes I wonder if all the complainers are fourteen years old. Do you people seriously not remember the time before Halo and multiplatform FPS homogenized the genre and made mobility a non-factor? I, for one, am glad that new titles are re-discovering the joy of moving. And even better that Dust is following that trend.
This guy gets it. I think CCP should take it further.
RACIAL JET PACKS!
"The feud shall not be forgotten. But those who forget, never witnessed the true horror of it."
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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven
823
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Posted - 2015.03.13 12:25:00 -
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Cypher Nil wrote:FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'. what your suggesting is everyone skill into them, so everyone is jumping. which ruins the gameplay for say. everyone?? sounds good yea +1
not for people who want to shoot
retired
stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs
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Orion Sanjeet
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
283
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Posted - 2015.03.13 13:32:00 -
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They having improving my sick bo staff skills.
Ebola makes me feel all warm and squishy inside.
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback.
4735
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Posted - 2015.03.13 13:36:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Kain Spero wrote:This has truly added a new dimension to Dust. ...but for better or worse?
Clearly for the better.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
18717
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Posted - 2015.03.13 14:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets Yes, why didn't we fix starter loadouts for new players or anything The only thing that will help noobs is their own game mode. No new AV player in the history of ever is going to crack a halfway intelligently piloted tank now lol. So. Many. TANKS.
no but maybe 2-3 will volley at the same time
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
1407
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Posted - 2015.03.13 14:49:00 -
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Moonjumping completely destroys excellent tank balance work.
The fact that the terrain is of great importance - tank pilot, carrying out the attack on the infantry, using the terrain combined with the distance.
Moonjumping with Swarms makes the battlefield smooth and flat as a table.
Please support fair play!
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
6237
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Posted - 2015.03.13 15:06:00 -
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It completely removed a lot of the map design that seemed to funnel people due to the terrain.
No longer do you need a person constantly using a DS to place/kill uplinks.
Engagements are more fun because people are unable to use terrain they knew wasn't passable to limit the approaches of the person they are fighting. |
Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
496
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:16:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets Yes, why didn't we fix starter loadouts for new players or anything
Yeah, that fixed it right up.
Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
496
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:17:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:It completely removed a lot of the map design that seemed to funnel people due to the terrain.
No longer do you need a person constantly using a DS to place/kill uplinks.
Engagements are more fun because people are unable to use terrain they knew wasn't passable to limit the approaches of the person they are fighting.
I.e. Map design is ruined. They redesigned the map to cut off LOS, especially for snipers. Now the maps would need a further redesign to either limit jumping or bring back LOS for snipers and long range.
Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
237
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:40:00 -
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Cypher Nil wrote:FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'. what your suggesting is everyone skill into them, so everyone is jumping. which ruins the gameplay for say. everyone?? sounds good yea +1
When and how did he suggest that?
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
453
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:45:00 -
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 Well, after playing in the new Echo release for one night, I knew THIS was going to be the one topic that would catch fire on the Forurm.
This M-fibril mechanic is something I don't use on my character, so my reactions to it are only based on observations of the OTHER players I saw using it that night:
I saw two players use their new jumps to take up sniper positions on buildings that were nearer the Objectives, so they could be more effective snipers.
I saw two players use the feature as a new "vertical strafe exploit", where it was impossible for the medium-range opponent to keep a clear line of fire on a target who hops faster than the vertical-response of your controller.
I had one player hack an exterior Null panel, then rise straight up as if by cat-burgler's helicopter cable, and she never came back down. The feature allows you to completely avoid being engaged.
I saw one player give up running around the map completely, and pogo-stick her way toward the objective for as long as the M-fibril allows---as a less-counterable means of travel. It looked as comical and outlandish as the speedy-HAV and the speedy-Scout issues we had.
 On the plus: It clearly gives players the opportunity to perch their weaponry/equipment on highground-advantage perches, arguably "at whim", without having to seek the dropship or jumping-LAV assistance that (unfortunately) many players aren't very good at arranging with fellow Dust players.
 On the negative: This kind of works AGAINST Dust devs' increasing desire to convince/inspire players to coordinate and successfully get assistance from one another as an effective and rewarded strategy for beating the opposition in a match.
On the plus: It removes the advantages that wise players used against opponents,GǪ the advantage of using terrain limitations and hilly topography to outmanuver an enemy or cover avenues of approach around the map.
On the negative: This attacks the purpose of having maps with TERRAIN. Terrain and hills are part of the important challenge of "controlling access around the map", which is arguably how destroying the MCC is ultimately accomplished. As some people have already posted, there's no advantage to making the maps "essentially flat", by giving free open access to anyone who wants to wear moonboots.
 On the plus, it adds a new component of "fun" to those players who may not really have any strategic use for the M-fibril boost, and are just looking to increase their "pleasure" in playing a game.
 One the negative, in a videogame that interacts with other human players, "fun" and "pleasure" differs with motives, so game designer need to be careful about what kind of "fun" they are opening their game to. The kind of fun that impedes and alienates too many other players?
No matter what cool new features the majority of us would enjoy and probably use effectively, there's alway among us a risky amount of player who don't care that this is Dust, or it's CoD, or it's video Monopoly. They play it because they want to find SOME method of obstructing the gameplay and disrupting the general population's experience. This is THEIR "fun".
Like the cloak, this is just another "fun" feature that CCP will need to monitor aggressively. We're going to have some considerably bad experiences soon.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
623
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:47:00 -
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That's true. Had a guy in my corp cursing them... Then he put them on and was all "Wooooooo!"
The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
237
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:54:00 -
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John Psi wrote:Moonjumping completely destroys excellent tank balance work.
The fact that the terrain is of great importance - tank pilot, carrying out the attack on the infantry, using the terrain combined with the distance.
Moonjumping with Swarms makes the battlefield smooth and flat as a table.
No... Moon jumping makes nothing smooth and flat, besides the fall hurts you making you easy pickings for tanks. I've been using myofibs to leap onto tanks for my tank surf can opener attack.Its really simple and works a treat: while firmly gripping the can, attach the magnet, and use can opener to remove the lid. By can I mean tank, by magnet i mean flux, and by can opener I mean knife. It takes some practice as any tanker will try hard to shake you off. beware, contents of can may be explosive. If you succeed in cutting the top off a tank in this way, you will most definitely die. But its so worth it when your squads just sitting back watching like "wtf is this crazy--- aw hell yeah!"
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
237
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Posted - 2015.03.13 19:22:00 -
[53] - Quote
Well, after playing in the new Echo release for one night, I knew THIS was going to be the one topic that would catch fire on the Forurm.
This M-fibril mechanic is something I don't use on my character, so my reactions to it are only based on observations of the OTHER players I saw using it that night:
I saw two players use their new jumps to take up sniper positions on buildings that were nearer the Objectives, so they could be more effective snipers
You saw this module pull snipers OUT of the redline? +1!
I saw two players use the feature as a new "vertical strafe exploit", where it was impossible for the medium-range opponent to keep a clear line of fire on a target who hops faster than the vertical-response of your controller.
Uh...huh. I'm sure. Because floating through the air in a clearly determinable arc with no way to stop yourself is impossible to aim at?
I had one player hack an exterior Null panel, then rise straight up as if by cat-burgler's helicopter cable, and she never came back down. The feature allows you to completely avoid being engaged.
More capable exfiltration techniques allow characters with no HP to avoid bloody and fruitless battle against the classes with the most HP... noted. hopefully every scout will keep this in mind
I saw one player give up running around the map completely, and pogo-stick her way toward the objective for as long as the M-fibril allows---as a less-counterable means of travel. It looked as comical and outlandish as the speedy-HAV and the speedy-Scout issues we had.
Less counter able in this context means impossible to defend yourself once someone notices you're a clay pigeon... Interesting choice of words.
On the plus: It clearly gives players the opportunity to perch their weaponry/equipment on highground-advantage perches, arguably "at whim", without having to seek the dropship or jumping-LAV assistance that (unfortunately) many players aren't very good at arranging with fellow Dust players.
arguably meaning im gonna argue that sacrificing all your shields to become nothing but a tactical positioning unit is quite the extreme compared to using a drop ship and a combat ready suit. Its less at whim than a drop ship and more likely to die. Problem?
On the negative: This kind of works AGAINST Dust devs' increasing desire to convince/inspire players to coordinate and successfully get assistance from one another as an effective and rewarded strategy for beating the opposition in a match.
Because sacrificing all combat capability to provide pure tactical support for your squad doesn't encourage working together. Ignoring this one, as should everybody else.
On the plus: It removes the advantages that wise players used against opponents,GǪ the advantage of using terrain limitations and hilly topography to outmanuver an enemy or cover avenues of approach around the map.
On the negative: This attacks the purpose of having maps with TERRAIN. Terrain and hills are part of the important challenge of "controlling access around the map", which is arguably what enables us to get each MCC destroyed. As some people have already posted, there's no advantage to making the maps "essentially flat", by giving free open access to anyone who wants to wear moonboots.
Funny because what I'mreading is that you ccan't hide in the hills while you sail through the air, and people sailing through the air can spot people hiding in the hills. Except for the clay pigeon effect, where your lack of shields makes you an easy target... For people hiding in the hills waiting for you to pop up
On the plus, it adds a new component of "fun" to those players who may not really have any strategic use for the M-fibril boost, and are just looking to increase their "pleasure" in playing a game.
Most ppl like this will get bored of being shot out of the aur, breaking shields on landing, or being spotted while traveling and quit juicing myofibs.
One the negative, in a videogame that has you interacting with other human players, "fun" and "pleasure" differs with motives, so game designerss need to be careful about what kind of "fun" they are opening their game to. The kind of fun that impedes and alienates too many other players?
Those who cannot adapt will QQ. This is the law of the land. Despite your beliefs, this series has a long standing tradition of letting the players do what they want as long as there's nothing that says they can't. Its reflected in an old saying you used to hear around here. Since you don't seem to have heard it before let me be the first to tell you: Welcome To New Eden
No matter what cool new features the majority of us would enjoy and probably use effectively, there's always among us a risky amount of players who don't care that this is Dust, or it's CoD, or it's video Monopoly. They play it because they want to find SOME method of obstructing the gameplay and disrupting the general population's experience. This is THEIR "fun".
Coding a game for the ppl who will find any exploit they can is the same as writing laws on the assumption that everyone will break it bc its the law. This backward reasoning will only hurt things. Monitor and adjust? Yes. Assume everyone will exploit? Bad move
Like the cloak, this is just another "fun" feature that CCP will need to monitor aggressively. We're going to have some considerably bad experiences soon.
By monitor aggressively I hope you aren't asking for a repeat of when cloaks had issues and the fix was to break it beyond any semblance of usefulness and then not monitor it at all afterward and ignore everybody who points out how insanely broken it is. If so, I would rather they have just let myofibs stay as an obscure tool only minjas use
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
131
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Posted - 2015.03.13 21:15:00 -
[54] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets Yes, why didn't we fix starter loadouts for new players or anything
You did and that is a very good thing!
Vets have played these maps so many times that we know the "what & where's" so we can anticipate. The new player experience just got more difficult by a dimension. Passive scans plus verticality have made cover a liability!
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
378
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Posted - 2015.03.14 05:08:00 -
[55] - Quote
Greiv Rabbah wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets Yes, why didn't we fix starter loadouts for new players or anything you raise the new guys a foot and the vets get three Vets are playing around with a toy that makes them easier to shoot bc theyre floating and easier to kill bc they take damage when they hit the ground... Problem? basic medium frames(used by new players) got revamped, cloaks at lower tiers got fitting adjustments(for new players) starter fits redone(for new players)... Im not feelin ya here. But from someone who doesn't understand how shotguns are viable in team play this isn't surprising. BTW gal assault has enough range to blap shields off incoming targets as allies chew them up, galmandos have enough power behind a shotty to make a sentinel think twice, and oh yeah that scout who's flanking the group your squad is up against. But yeah... No purpose in team play. Not to mention gal logis using it for self defense if their squadmates are getting dropped around them by some pesky scout, since who is most likely to detect them first? Fix your sig bro, shotguns are immensely valuable to gallente players and scouts alike
Like i have already said if people would stop being lazy and read my posts, with the poor hit detection and netcode, you cannot hit them as their velocity leaving the ground is >= minscout with kincats. Right now we need less movement altogether so that the consoles and servers can keep up. But the devs would rather run around, flying through the air, shooting their pretty little officer PLC
What role does the shotgun have in team play? NONE. Remove it.
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anaboop
The Phoenix Federation
Dark Taboo
160
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Posted - 2015.03.14 07:36:00 -
[56] - Quote
Disliked.
Waiting for fix.
Fully sick Anaboop trading card
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
381
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Posted - 2015.03.14 08:45:00 -
[57] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:wow, all time low, rattati. i can't believe this was even allowed. How can you justify moving players in more dimensions when you still cannot get your hit detection or netcode fixed. nice to see your priorities are about keeping the new players under the heels of vets Yes, why didn't we fix starter loadouts for new players or anything
Because you really think that these new starter fits will change anything?
It's been 2 years since we're asking for a working hit detection, could you please start working on it instead of adding useless and game breaking jumps? THIS will help your new players!! People leave the game because it's all bugged everywhere and not smooth at all, not because they get killed by vets sometimes! Your starter fits aren't the problem.
Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name.
Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback.
4754
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Posted - 2015.03.15 06:51:00 -
[58] - Quote
Speaking of starer fits though I think CCP should modify or make a starter suit that focuses on using myofibs. Better to introduction players to the tactic early on .
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Yokal Bob
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
881
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Posted - 2015.03.15 15:18:00 -
[59] - Quote
nope, never gunna. it is the worst thing ever done to this game
Vote Dust for PS4
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1861
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Posted - 2015.03.15 15:39:00 -
[60] - Quote
FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'.
Nope. Got em proto.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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Poultryge1st
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
102
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Posted - 2015.03.15 17:17:00 -
[61] - Quote
Loven the introduction of a new meta to the game!
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xxSilverleafxx ValDarianus
WarRavens
0
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:35:00 -
[62] - Quote
CELESTA AUNGM wrote: Well, after playing in the new Echo release for one night, I knew THIS was going to be the one topic that would catch fire on the Forurm. This M-fibril mechanic is something I don't use on my character, so my reactions to it are only based on observations of the OTHER players I saw using it that night: I saw two players use their new jumps to take up sniper positions on buildings that were nearer the Objectives, so they could be more effective snipers. I saw two players use the feature as a new "vertical strafe exploit", where it was impossible for the medium-range opponent to keep a clear line of fire on a target who hops faster than the vertical-response of your controller. I had one player hack an exterior Null panel, then rise straight up as if by cat-burgler's helicopter cable, and she never came back down. The feature allows you to completely avoid being engaged. I saw one player give up running around the map completely, and pogo-stick her way toward the objective for as long as the M-fibril allows---as a less-counterable means of travel. It looked as comical and outlandish as the speedy-HAV and the speedy-Scout issues we had. On the plus: It clearly gives players the opportunity to perch their weaponry/equipment on highground-advantage perches, arguably "at whim", without having to seek the dropship or jumping-LAV assistance that (unfortunately) many players aren't very good at arranging with fellow Dust players. On the negative: This kind of works AGAINST Dust devs' increasing desire to convince/inspire players to coordinate and successfully get assistance from one another as an effective and rewarded strategy for beating the opposition in a match. On the plus: It removes the advantages that wise players used against opponents,GǪ the advantage of using terrain limitations and hilly topography to outmanuver an enemy or cover avenues of approach around the map. On the negative: This attacks the purpose of having maps with TERRAIN. Terrain and hills are part of the important challenge of "controlling access around the map", which is arguably what enables us to get each MCC destroyed. As some people have already posted, there's no advantage to making the maps "essentially flat", by giving free open access to anyone who wants to wear moonboots. On the plus, it adds a new component of "fun" to those players who may not really have any strategic use for the M-fibril boost, and are just looking to increase their "pleasure" in playing a game. One the negative, in a videogame that has you interacting with other human players, "fun" and "pleasure" differs with motives, so game designerss need to be careful about what kind of "fun" they are opening their game to. The kind of fun that impedes and alienates too many other players? No matter what cool new features the majority of us would enjoy and probably use effectively, there's always among us a risky amount of players who don't care that this is Dust, or it's CoD, or it's video Monopoly. They play it because they want to find SOME method of obstructing the gameplay and disrupting the general population's experience. This is THEIR "fun". Like the cloak, this is just another "fun" feature that CCP will need to monitor aggressively. We're going to have some considerably bad experiences soon.
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Gemini Cuspid
137
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:12:00 -
[63] - Quote
It's really something I'm thinking is a more "negative" than positive: terrain works more against non~users than it does users as if you're able to jump onto different floors and on roofs where as a pursuer who lacks them has to chase you by going into a building, they're already at a disadvantage.
It also gives changes aoe damage dynamics in the game: wpns who's proximity damage could also kill its user now allow a player to effectively shoot and jump away ignoring proximity damage while inflicting a high damage lvl. Used to be able to, if desperate, run right up front to a mass driver user and if you were both low on the HP you're both dead pretty much.
The worse observation is myso users pogo~sticking around but never going into places that limit movement: dom maps that still require some sort of chamber is a "no~no" and every pogo user just sits outside because their aoe damage is less accurate and difficult to manage with a heavy and locus grenades flying in your direction if your head pops itself just enough.
I agree that vehicle dominance seems to be the biggest deciding factor in the game; installations including railguns are still only effective against players who skilled into them lightly. The serious maddy pilots are never a threat unless enough a/v or another vehicle is in play.
What makes the myos the problem in game dynamics are their usage and pairing with aoe's: aoe's are essentially an area controlling weapon where if you want an enemy out of an area you bombard it and, likewise, keep bombarding it keep them out once they leave. Unlike all other traditional fire arms you don't have to be accurate either, it's an aoe and if they're taking cover and the wall happens to not be high enough then most coverage is negated by either being able to jump up and shoot at your peak or right next to them.
This is probably the biggest grip of most players, it gives myo's and aoe's wpn users an advantage not possible in an other situation and why most users have come to rely on flaylocks now versus the past. If you're saying you're not skilled enough to make precision shots to kill someone using myo's and that's why you hate them then it's equally true to say that you're using mass drivers and flaylocks because you actually suck at shooting precision and need an aoe wpn to kill someone off because it doesn't have to be accurate at all. |
Koldy Lyte Marven
Y.A.M.A.H
33
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:09:00 -
[64] - Quote
Man since the new update, I see people literally flying...
Since when is flying without using a plane allowed in war? I know this is a futuristic game, but no matter how evolved it is, the basics are the heart of everything. Back in time, unless using a plane, soldiers couldn't fly. Why change the heart of something? Why change the basics of war?
Take these deaths as a lesson.
-Koldy Lyte M., best worst badass fighter ever =ƒÿÄ
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
313
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:21:00 -
[65] - Quote
FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'.
true mibro stims made me play dust again
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
313
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:22:00 -
[66] - Quote
ya i run 5 mibros on my ck and core reps thank you very much
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
313
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:25:00 -
[67] - Quote
FLAY LOCKED wrote:are those who haven't skilled into them
Just sayin'.
ive always had mibros lol i used to run around as cloaked ck scout beating people to death till melee while cloaked got broken lol
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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RolyatDerTeufel
1805
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:25:00 -
[68] - Quote
Totally broke my fighter alt. His melee game is ruined with the jump and this new cloak..
but I enjoy the explosions and jumping like the dust bunny they made us to be :P
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1888
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:28:00 -
[69] - Quote
The only problems that I have is that Myo's should be more taxing on a fit in terms of CPU / PG because it's now clearly the most used mod in terms of bio mods ... the CPU / PG should be more then using kinkats because by far it's offering more viable effects in terms of melee and jumping abilities which is more then any other bio mod which " normally " offers just one factor , Myo's offer multiple and bring a vast dynamic that no other mods in the infantry can / do .
It's just lazy to not have a stacking penalty ( if it's bugged it needs to be fixed ) and just have a limit of three being placed on a individual .
When are the tweaks coming ???
Is this going to be ignored and chalked up as " working as intended " ?
It's the biggest issue , even more then performance issues ( which is sad ) and again , another installation with no thoughts as to the effects that it will have in the current fragile structure as it is .
The problem that I have is what's spoken of and the thoughtlessness of not installing checks and balances in regards of such .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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RolyatDerTeufel
1805
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:49:00 -
[70] - Quote
is jumping mod intended? if so, who thought of that ****?
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3254
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Posted - 2015.03.21 00:59:00 -
[71] - Quote
Using myo`s I recently discovered the pros and cons of the Flaylock. When above your opponent the flaylock is an impressive weapon however on level ground the thing seems to really struggle to splash opponents.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1888
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:05:00 -
[72] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:Using myo`s I recently discovered the pros and cons of the Flaylock. When above your opponent the flaylock is an impressive weapon however on level ground the thing seems to really struggle to splash opponents.
I use to have mine maxed , I would have to lead or shoot behind for the splash to be effective , it was funny because I use to hit people on a regular with that gun and found it quite effective .
I just like the magsec more .
I love the flaylock though .
It's far better then it has been , I'm sure you would agree .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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TaaSr GunZ
Dark Republic Academy
13
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:22:00 -
[73] - Quote
I think it's funny, but I do see the tactical advantage to super jumping. However, it does not replace straffing. It adds its own value and problems to the game, and so it should stay. I was speccing into this, but more for melee damage. I want to be like Brick from Borderlands, but this is like a fun bonus!
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck...
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Jathniel
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
1509
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:31:00 -
[74] - Quote
I just think the buff is on the wrong item.
Put the 'sweet jumps' on kin cats. And use a charge-stamina consumption mechanic to control the strength of the jump.
Give myos, a recoil reduction buff instead.
But hey, otherwise Idgas.
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
The Scope
Gallente Federation
270
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:37:00 -
[75] - Quote
I think they are pretty whack. i really dont seem to have a problem killing people with them. i think it helps if you pretend you're robocop. its what i do. he had limited mobility and still kicked ass
I got that john elway arm to proficiency level 5.
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xxSilverleafxx ValDarianus
WarRavens
1
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:02:00 -
[76] - Quote
IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:ya i run 5 mibros on my ck and core reps thank you very much
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Starfire Revo
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
325
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:32:00 -
[77] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:Speaking of starer fits though I think CCP should modify or make a starter suit that focuses on using myofibs. Better to introduce players to the tactic early on .
Hopefully they adjust the melee damage modifiers on the STD and ADV modules. Right now the difference between those and PRO makes them pretty much worthless by comparison.
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
755
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:20:00 -
[78] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:Speaking of starer fits though I think CCP should modify or make a starter suit that focuses on using myofibs. Better to introduce players to the tactic early on .
This has happened already, they have a starter fit with a myofib kincat and prci enh. It also carries SG and knives. Pretty much a med frame modded into scout territory... It's called Recon.
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PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
138
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Posted - 2015.04.03 11:51:00 -
[79] - Quote
RolyatDerTeufel wrote:is jumping mod intended? if so, who thought of that ****?
Yeah who the hell came up with that stupid idea ?
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