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Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 15801	Posted - 2015.02.26 15:42:00 - [61] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Harder to use items/abilities are more powerful. The LR is one of the harder to use weapons in the game. And extremely situational besides. In its niche, and when used correctly, it roflpwns. Working as intended. Not saying the Laser Rifle is OP but it's not really hard to use. Not that it means anything, as besides Launchers nothing is really "difficult" to use. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8863	Posted - 2015.02.26 15:43:00 - [62] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Vs Armour, Yes. But then its supposed to be. thats like asking if the LR is OP vs Shields. an equivalent tier CR vs Shield tanker is pretty terrible. even on a proto skilled minmando with complex DMs and max skills you can struggle to break a well tanked C-I whats 'OP' (technically broken not OP) is the LR's heat build up and damage vs Armour. the damage multiplier for the length of firing the laser needs to really be looked at. it far negates the -20% damage to armour that other laser weapons have to deal with. its the only weapon that still broken and been made more OP due to the effective ranging being brought down from 30m to 5/10m. there isn't really much downside to using the LR now. Laser Rifle is OP? No. Its not. Just. Wow. People will cry about ***** anything. my templar can cut through several armour tankers pretty easily so yeah its pretty OP/Broken. hell my corp mate uses his Viziam on his proto amarr and just laughs as he slices through proto heavies. i've seen him go through 4 suits in less than a clip, no other weapon can do that since the HMGs heat build up got fked over Have you not heard of skill:power ratio balancing in games? Harder to use items/abilities are more powerful. The LR is one of the harder to use weapons in the game. And extremely situational besides. In its niche, and when used correctly, it roflpwns. Working as intended. What Fizzer means to say is that it can't be OP because it's Amarr Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Nirwanda Vaughns 1469	Posted - 2015.02.26 15:52:00 - [63] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Vs Armour, Yes. But then its supposed to be. thats like asking if the LR is OP vs Shields. an equivalent tier CR vs Shield tanker is pretty terrible. even on a proto skilled minmando with complex DMs and max skills you can struggle to break a well tanked C-I whats 'OP' (technically broken not OP) is the LR's heat build up and damage vs Armour. the damage multiplier for the length of firing the laser needs to really be looked at. it far negates the -20% damage to armour that other laser weapons have to deal with. its the only weapon that still broken and been made more OP due to the effective ranging being brought down from 30m to 5/10m. there isn't really much downside to using the LR now. Laser Rifle is OP? No. Its not. Just. Wow. People will cry about ***** anything. my templar can cut through several armour tankers pretty easily so yeah its pretty OP/Broken. hell my corp mate uses his Viziam on his proto amarr and just laughs as he slices through proto heavies. i've seen him go through 4 suits in less than a clip, no other weapon can do that since the HMGs heat build up got fked over Have you not heard of skill:power ratio balancing in games? Harder to use items/abilities are more powerful. The LR is one of the harder to use weapons in the game. And extremely situational besides. In its niche, and when used correctly, it roflpwns. Working as intended. lol boocks is it. i'm a terrible FPS gamer with a dualshock3 that is held together with dirt and prayers and i can use the LR just fine. if you plug in a $20 laser mouse you can get pinpoint zapping with it too. tank the st out of an Assault Ak.0 sit on a building 100m away and just happily sit zippy-zapping away with it. if we're talkign about using skill:power ratio then lets boost the crap outta assault forge guns cos hitting a dropship at 200m away with an assault forge is something that takes real skill Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2429	Posted - 2015.02.26 15:54:00 - [64] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Vs Armour, Yes. But then its supposed to be. thats like asking if the LR is OP vs Shields. an equivalent tier CR vs Shield tanker is pretty terrible. even on a proto skilled minmando with complex DMs and max skills you can struggle to break a well tanked C-I whats 'OP' (technically broken not OP) is the LR's heat build up and damage vs Armour. the damage multiplier for the length of firing the laser needs to really be looked at. it far negates the -20% damage to armour that other laser weapons have to deal with. its the only weapon that still broken and been made more OP due to the effective ranging being brought down from 30m to 5/10m. there isn't really much downside to using the LR now. Laser Rifle is OP? No. Its not. Just. Wow. People will cry about ***** anything. my templar can cut through several armour tankers pretty easily so yeah its pretty OP/Broken. hell my corp mate uses his Viziam on his proto amarr and just laughs as he slices through proto heavies. i've seen him go through 4 suits in less than a clip, no other weapon can do that since the HMGs heat build up got fked over Have you not heard of skill:power ratio balancing in games? Harder to use items/abilities are more powerful. The LR is one of the harder to use weapons in the game. And extremely situational besides. In its niche, and when used correctly, it roflpwns. Working as intended. What Fizzer means to say is that it can't be OP because it's Amarr Yup. Which is totally why I defend weapons like Plasma Cannons, ScRs, Lasers, Nova Knives and all Pistols, while berating weapons like AR, ACR, and SMGs... I like higher-skill weapons Aeon. I can't help it that all of the Amarr weapons so far have generally higher skill caps... I've petitioned for low skill Amarr weapons. Like and SMG or a shotgun, but CCP doesn't give a ** about Amarr **. Home at Last <3
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8864	Posted - 2015.02.26 16:55:00 - [65] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Yup. Which is totally why I defend weapons like Plasma Cannons, ScRs, Lasers, Nova Knives and all Pistols, while berating weapons like AR, ACR, and SMGs... I like higher-skill weapons Aeon. I can't help it that all of the Amarr weapons so far have generally higher skill caps... I've petitioned for low skill Amarr weapons. Like and SMG or a shotgun, but CCP doesn't give a ** about Amarr . Take a joke, dude. While you're at it, don't ever insinuate that the AR is a "low skill weapon" unless you want to show everyone how well you fare with it. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? Founder of AIV**
Myron Kundera UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE 171	Posted - 2015.02.26 17:39:00 - [66] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Myron Kundera wrote: I understand that the CR/ACR is supposed to kill armor in nanoseconds cause reasons (aurum/respec/fotm), but still, it feels as if it kills shields almost as fast. I armor tank so i don-¦t have high shields, but i have seen caldari assaults get melted in seconds with the ACR/CR in CQC 1 vs 1, don-¦t think thats supposed to happen... Well it is a low-mid range weapon, it's not like the scrambler(mid-long) doing 400+ damage from 8 meters. And let's be honest, the Caldari aren't exactly the picture of CQC, no matter how much these idiots brick tank them. In game, the ScR is a close-medium-long range weapon and it functions properly at those 3 ranges. The Caldari Assault i saw get melted by a Boundless CR was using a Proto Cal Ass with Duvolle, and i doubt he was brick tanked cause he moved way to fast and tried to strafe, but still died to that Boundless CR pretty easily. "Greed, the forgotten mental disease" "Spray and pray makes my day" "Will use proto gear in self defense"
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1800	Posted - 2015.02.26 17:59:00 - [67] - Quote Pretty much my gripe with it , it's a mid range weapon that excels in every category except long range and that's for the RR and LR but an ARR and any CR can melt a AR / PR user in their own range factor . It will kill in a CQC with a AR / PR , just like a ARR would and that's just not the intended purpose of the weapon . AR / PR should be CQC but it's not by any means . CR is by far the best rifle in the game because it can do everything except kill at far ranges with consistency , but I have seen cases where someone dies at range by a CR so that too is just another factor , it's just so easy to get headshots with that rifle at dam near any distance . If one is taking multiple shots , you get hit by a CR and you might as well wrap it up , other guns at least give you time to react even if hit by multiple fire . The RR was changed so it wouldn't be as effective at CQC with the exception of the ARR but the CR is just so good at darn near everything , where all other weapons have noticeable drop-offs . ( i.e. overheating , the least range and charge time / kick . ) I've experienced and seen the same thing Myron . Edit : By far the best strafe to kill weapon . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 1203	Posted - 2015.02.26 18:10:00 - [68] - Quote ScR / CR are better than RR/ARR across all ranges, plus the rail rifles dont even work in CQC lol. At least the LR works at its intended job. RR gets pwned at stand off fights vs a breach AR, says it all. Balance CCP do you understand it? Nemo me impune lacessit CCP - Announcing games at the same time as killing the ones you love CCP - No Credibility
Savage Mangler Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.02.26 18:16:00 - [69] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: STD HMG - 18.00 HP - 2400 RPM STD Assault combat rifle - 19.85 - 1200 RPM STD Combat rifle - 27.00 HP - 1200 RPM Something was not clear? Do you even math bruh? 18*2400/60= 720 DPS while the CR does 540 and the ACR does 397. I don't even..... Free your mind, break your shackles..... In other words....stop being a gorram metasheeple.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2432	Posted - 2015.02.26 18:56:00 - [70] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Yup. Which is totally why I defend weapons like Plasma Cannons, ScRs, Lasers, Nova Knives and all Pistols, while berating weapons like AR, ACR, and SMGs... I like higher-skill weapons Aeon. I can't help it that all of the Amarr weapons so far have generally higher skill caps... I've petitioned for low skill Amarr weapons. Like and SMG or a shotgun, but CCP doesn't give a ** about Amarr **. Take a joke, dude. While you're at it, don't ever insinuate that the AR is a "low skill weapon" unless you want to show everyone how well you fare with it. Its definitely one of the lower skill weapons in the game. The only things that take less are the HMG, SMGs, and the ACR. But all four of those weapons are just bullethoses by a different name... None of them have any real drawbacks to their use, besides requiring the player to get within 40m, which is trivial in a game where the objectives and map assets are consciously designed for close quarters combat. And I have used the AR. A lot. Every vet has. Remember when it was the only generalist rifle in the game? I had to use it then. Not enough has changed about it for me to conclude that it hasn't become anything else but a low skill weapon. Home at Last <3

Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 696	Posted - 2015.02.27 05:42:00 - [71] - Quote I see a lot of suspect comments on various guns by various people in various different arguments. Suspect comments are kinda sad :(
JONAHBENHUR WarRavens 99	Posted - 2015.02.27 06:57:00 - [72] - Quote it just seems op because the current way of the game is to armor tank it is our only real weapon against you armored meanies ! "To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8868	Posted - 2015.02.27 09:04:00 - [73] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Yup. Which is totally why I defend weapons like Plasma Cannons, ScRs, Lasers, Nova Knives and all Pistols, while berating weapons like AR, ACR, and SMGs... I like higher-skill weapons Aeon. I can't help it that all of the Amarr weapons so far have generally higher skill caps... I've petitioned for low skill Amarr weapons. Like and SMG or a shotgun, but CCP doesn't give a ** about Amarr . Take a joke, dude. While you're at it, don't ever insinuate that the AR is a "low skill weapon" unless you want to show everyone how well you fare with it. Its definitely one of the lower skill weapons in the game. The only things that take less are the HMG, SMGs, and the ACR. And swarms too, I guess, but for obvious reasons I'll just ignore them... But all four of those weapons are just bullethoses by a different name... None of them have any real drawbacks to their use, besides requiring the player to get within 40m, which is trivial in a game where the objectives and map assets are consciously designed for close quarters combat. And I have used the AR. A lot. Every vet has. Remember when it was the only generalist rifle in the game? I had to use it then. Not enough has changed about it for me to conclude that it hasn't become anything else but a low skill weapon. Mhmm. S'why you don't use it now, right? Too low skill for you? You're one of those dudes who consciously aligns to weapons that are for dem l337 gamers. AR is a lot different now than it was prior to 1.7 bro. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? Founder of AIV**


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