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Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7770	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:01:00 - [1] - Quote Since when was this a huge problem, of all the things I've been killed by recently I don't think I've ever had: Damn that overpowering Combat Rifle, it's so powerful and unstoppable! Cross my mind before. Keep hearing it though, I missing something something? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 17	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:04:00 - [2] - Quote Are you armour based? One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7770	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:07:00 - [3] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: Are you armour based? I use both tanks, shield and armor, on many fits. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Nocturnal Soul Ametat Security Amarr Empire 5524	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:08:00 - [4] - Quote Kinda does over a 100 damage a burst if you have pro, so its expected. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2345	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:09:00 - [5] - Quote It's OP against the meta, not AS much on shields, but it is better than the other rifles and is good on any suit, making it very versatile where the ScR is pretty OP, but mostly so on an AmAssault. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7771	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:11:00 - [6] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kinda does over a 100 damage a burst if you have pro, so its expected. You're sure you're talking about the combat rifle there dark... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 15785	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:12:00 - [7] - Quote The Combat Rifle is considered overpowered by players who: 1. Believe that anything that kills them with regularity is OP 2. Armor Tank and feel like their HP should make them Senti-Strong. 3. Believe that the Matari Assault is OP and want to take something else down with it. Looking at the stats however, it's DPS (and therefore TTK) is in-line with the other rifles, with it's differences being apparent based on which suit it's pitted against (like the other rifles). The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2345	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:13:00 - [8] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kinda does over a 100 damage a burst if you have pro, so its expected. You're sure you're talking about the combat rifle there dark... Yes. If each bullet does ~30 damage, multiply by three, against armor, plus prof and dmg mods. I don't know exactly what the damage is, but it is at least 30 I believe Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Nocturnal Soul Ametat Security Amarr Empire 5525	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:15:00 - [9] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Combat Rifle is considered overpowered by players who: 1. Believe that anything that kills them with regularity is OP 2. Armor Tank and feel like their HP should make them Senti-Strong. 3. Believe that the Matari Assault is OP and want to take something else down with it. Looking at the stats however, it's DPS (and therefore TTK) is in-line with the other rifles, with it's differences being apparent based on which suit it's pitted against (like the other rifles). looks at Scr (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7771	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:16:00 - [10] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kinda does over a 100 damage a burst if you have pro, so its expected. You're sure you're talking about the combat rifle there dark... Yes. If each bullet does ~30 damage, multiply by three, against armor, plus prof and dmg mods. I don't know exactly what the damage is, but it is at least 30 I believe I know, I was pulling his leg. I may act like an idiot at times but I'm not overly ignorant. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe

Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 692	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:23:00 - [11] - Quote My Cal Sent trembles in fear of CRs, ACRs, and ScRs.
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7772	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:28:00 - [12] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: My Cal Sent trembles in fear of CRs, ACRs, and ScRs. But actually CRs/ACRs about equally as ScRs. Does less damage and all due to profile -- but the damage application is damn near the paper DPS. Other guns no where near that. The last one I get, the first two, not so much. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1792	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:34:00 - [13] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Since when was this a huge problem, of all the things I've been killed by recently I don't think I've ever had: Damn that overpowering Combat Rifle, it's so powerful and unstoppable! Cross my mind before. Keep hearing it though, I missing something something? CR isn't even half as OP against Armor as ScR is against Shield. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens 1126	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:49:00 - [14] - Quote When I use my Adv CalAss I tend to die more by Combat Rifles than Scrambler Rifles. Surprisingly the do good damage against shields. The Forums are a special place.
VALCORE72 Dead Man's Game RUST415 216	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:57:00 - [15] - Quote combat rifles . scramblers and rail rifles all do a tad to much damage . mabe 5 % or 10% reduction in damage would be good or lower the bonuses to a max of plus 10 min 10 .
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9678	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:58:00 - [16] - Quote defending the CR on Min Assault is like defending the HMG or Breach AR. Only issue with the CR is the Min Assault bonus taking away from the weapons only balancing feature since it's damn good at everything else and costing sidearm level CPU/PG to equip. It's annoying on most suits but I don't call it OP, the problem comes when you have the ability to keep your high RoF, DPS, recoil, decent ranged weapon constantly on a target then you'd get a problem. That's like if the Gallente Assault was given a bonus to Range. You know how OP that would make the Plasma Rifles then it makes the Breach into Jove mode? Another weapon that has very little drawbacks besides the one main one...then we just get a bonus to negate the main balancing factor of the weapon. Let's give RR more damage if we are to have this mindset. Let's get rid of Laser Rifle heatbuildup even more and give it more damage. Yay! Now no weapons have the weakness and counters they were supposed to have! *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 890	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:02:00 - [17] - Quote ACR, CR have the highest DPS around all rifles. [modded ScR and tAR doesn't count] Ps. #Atiim. Minmatar assault have the same/equally amount of hp/regen as rest. But additionaly it has scout speed. It's just broken. Loyal to State https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2629870#post2629870 - Mejto's trade/sale list
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 439	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:03:00 - [18] - Quote Its remarkably powerful. Comparing it to the scr is a joke though. The scr needs heavy sp investment aim and practice. The militia acr on the starter fit tears everything apart. Overpowered? Idk but i definitely find it WAY more reliable for killing everything. "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7777	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:07:00 - [19] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Its remarkably powerful. Comparing it to the scr is a joke though. The scr needs heavy sp investment aim and practice. The militia acr on the starter fit tears everything apart. Overpowered? Idk but i definitely find it WAY more reliable for killing everything. Having used the scrambler I can honestly say it's not as difficult to use as you Amarr make it out to be, not even close. I get more of a challenge using the mass driver. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Minmatar Mercenary 9292 Nos Nothi 577	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:24:00 - [20] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: costing sidearm level CPU/PG to equip. This is what I don't understand, why it costs so little to fit, I remember back when my assault had a crappy 5/2 slot layout and low fitting capabilities the combat rifles fitting felt perfect, like they designed it around that suit and they way it should be fit. Problem being is that You don't need to use it on the min assault and more importantly the min assaults slot layout and fitting capabilities are greatly increased so i don't see why it has such a low fitting requirement still. Da only good Amarr is a ded Amarr, an de ony fing betta than a ded one, is a dyin one who tells ya were 'is mates is!

Dengru Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 501	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:46:00 - [21] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Its remarkably powerful. Comparing it to the scr is a joke though. The scr needs heavy sp investment aim and practice. The militia acr on the starter fit tears everything apart. Overpowered? Idk but i definitely find it WAY more reliable for killing everything. Having used the scrambler I can honestly say it's not as difficult to use as you Amarr make it out to be, not even close. I get more of a challenge using the mass driver. you seriously find it more challenging to use a splash damage weapon (>^_^)><(^.^<)
Nocturnal Soul Ametat Security Amarr Empire 5528	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:49:00 - [22] - Quote Dengru wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Its remarkably powerful. Comparing it to the scr is a joke though. The scr needs heavy sp investment aim and practice. The militia acr on the starter fit tears everything apart. Overpowered? Idk but i definitely find it WAY more reliable for killing everything. Having used the scrambler I can honestly say it's not as difficult to use as you Amarr make it out to be, not even close. I get more of a challenge using the mass driver. you seriously find it more challenging to use a splash damage weapon At range yes, up close might as well put a permanent +50 on my screen. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7781	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:51:00 - [23] - Quote Dengru wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Its remarkably powerful. Comparing it to the scr is a joke though. The scr needs heavy sp investment aim and practice. The militia acr on the starter fit tears everything apart. Overpowered? Idk but i definitely find it WAY more reliable for killing everything. Having used the scrambler I can honestly say it's not as difficult to use as you Amarr make it out to be, not even close. I get more of a challenge using the mass driver. you seriously find it more challenging to use a splash damage weapon Yup, far more timing, adjustment, and leading involved. Love my MD, fun and challenging. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17291	Posted - 2015.02.26 02:09:00 - [24] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Yup, far more timing, adjustment, and leading involved. Love my MD, fun and challenging. Kinda like how I feel about my Laser though on my end its not about leading its about tracing their movements and predicting if or when they are going to flip out. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
TritusX PH4NT0M5 339	Posted - 2015.02.26 02:18:00 - [25] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: When I use my Adv CalAss I tend to die more by Combat Rifles than Scrambler Rifles. Surprisingly the do good damage against shields. No, it's because barely anyone runs ScR unless they have Am As, and they most likely don't That scout you see on the kill board with 20 kills and 15 deaths
Slave of MORTE 332	Posted - 2015.02.26 03:06:00 - [26] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kinda does over a 100 damage a burst if you have pro, so its expected. You're sure you're talking about the combat rifle there dark... How many bullets in a burst my cr should be hitting close to. 40 dmg a bullet Boundless cr Minmando 10% racial bonus plus 2 complex dmg mods and 5 % from wb. And then prof 5 for armor Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
killertojo42 KnightKiller's inc. 161	Posted - 2015.02.26 03:08:00 - [27] - Quote almost anyone who runs a combat rifle runs damage mods, the weapon only seems OP because of that but we're talking about a weapon that has a whole skill ( sharpshooter ) just so it doesn't miss its target too much and it's a weapon where people are mixing damage mods and the damage mod skill which increases damage mod efficiency ie. damage given on mod and the weapon skills, calling a heavily skilled into weapon OP is pointless because every weapon when heavily skilled into is supposed to be quite powerful Because both of us dying as I'm in my nomad BPO is to my benefit Rank 10 winmataar
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2356	Posted - 2015.02.26 03:12:00 - [28] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: almost anyone who runs a combat rifle runs damage mods, the weapon only seems OP because of that but we're talking about a weapon that has a whole skill ( sharpshooter ) just so it doesn't miss its target too much and it's a weapon where people are mixing damage mods and the damage mod skill which increases damage mod efficiency ie. damage given on mod and the weapon skills, calling a heavily skilled into weapon OP is pointless because every weapon when heavily skilled into is supposed to be quite powerful How can you say that, you and I both know that is complete and utter bullsmit... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7784	Posted - 2015.02.26 03:22:00 - [29] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kinda does over a 100 damage a burst if you have pro, so its expected. You're sure you're talking about the combat rifle there dark... How many bullets in a burst my cr should be hitting close to. 40 dmg a bullet Boundless cr Minmando 10% racial bonus plus 2 complex dmg mods and 5 % from wb. And then prof 5 for armor And there's one guy who didn't check the rest of the page... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
killertojo42 KnightKiller's inc. 161	Posted - 2015.02.26 03:40:00 - [30] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: killertojo42 wrote: almost anyone who runs a combat rifle runs damage mods, the weapon only seems OP because of that but we're talking about a weapon that has a whole skill ( sharpshooter ) just so it doesn't miss its target too much and it's a weapon where people are mixing damage mods and the damage mod skill which increases damage mod efficiency ie. damage given on mod and the weapon skills, calling a heavily skilled into weapon OP is pointless because every weapon when heavily skilled into is supposed to be quite powerful How can you say that, you and I both know that is complete and utter bullsmit... if you're saying you don't then i might die laughing at you tonight Because both of us dying as I'm in my nomad BPO is to my benefit rank 10 winmataar



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