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xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 269	Posted - 2015.02.11 04:16:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys. Thought I'd post up this thread for any new Logi's out there who need help. Who better to help you out than me? I'll keep this thread up for those seeking knowledge into the ways of true logistics (it's more than just a rep tool). Being on the highly competitive end of Planetary Conquest since it's inception into the game, I've gotten to lead and fight the best players in Molden Heath. I see a lot of players asking for help in logistics, and lead astray by players with limited knowledge and skill into this vastly diverse occupation in the game. You want to know how to give your slayers the sharpest edge on the field and still be at the top of the list? Come to me. GOT QUESTIONS I GOT ANSWERS xTSRx *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 626	Posted - 2015.02.11 04:51:00 - [2] - Quote Hell yea
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7178	Posted - 2015.02.11 05:31:00 - [3] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Hey guys. Thought I'd post up this thread for any new Logi's out there who need help. Who better to help you out than me? I'll keep this thread up for those seeking knowledge into the ways of true logistics (it's more than just a rep tool). Being on the highly competitive end of Planetary Conquest since it's inception into the game, I've gotten to lead and fight the best players in Molden Heath. I see a lot of players asking for help in logistics, and lead astray by players with limited knowledge and skill into this vastly diverse occupation in the game. You want to know how to give your slayers the sharpest edge on the field and still be at the top of the list? Come to me. GOT QUESTIONS I GOT ANSWERS xTSRx Ghostt shadoww says he is the best logi in the game, what do you have to say about this? CBM EVE, Dust & Corp Services Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 2097	Posted - 2015.02.11 05:43:00 - [4] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Ghostt shadoww says he is the best logi in the game, what do you have to say about this? Imma let him answer but Road K1ll is the best logi in the game. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! [RYJC]
TheOtherCheek TurnIt Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2015.02.11 06:56:00 - [5] - Quote How much range does a proto rep tool have on a maxed out minlogi? What are some good low slot choices?
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 277	Posted - 2015.02.11 09:38:00 - [6] - Quote TheOtherCheek TurnIt wrote: How much range does a proto rep tool have on a maxed out minlogi? What are some good low slot choices? Here we go. I placed the specs for you with range and dropsuit reps with the min logi bonus. Minmatar Logistic Dropsuit w/ Racial Statistical Bonus: Core Rep tool: Range: 22.5m Repair rate on Dropsuit: 87.5HP/s Lai Dai Rep Tool: Range: 33.75m Repair Rate on Dropsuit: 87.5HP/s Six Kin Rep Tool: Range:22.5m Repair Rate on Dropsuit: 110 HP/s Rep Boundless Rep Tool: Range: 30m Repair Rate on Dropsuit: 112.5 HP/s Core Focus Rep Tool: Range: 11.25m Repair Rate on Dropsuit: 156.25HP/s With these bonuses in mind, your low slot choices should dictate around the advantage of the rep tool. Build around that starting as your foundation for the suit. Speed is always a plus. With 4 highs and 4 lows, you'll get a balanced outlook on the game. I personally like to go with moderate speed with enough tank to stay in the fight with my heavies. At the same time I still want to be mobile should I need to retreat and or engage in combat. One complex kin-Cat with two complex reactive plates, finished with a simple basic plate, will give you enough armor and reps (assuming you've maxed out all CPU and PG space as well) to fit your suit with over 700+HP combined with shield selection, as well as all proto equipment. Hope this helps you out bud o/ *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
Match Omega D3ATH CARD RUST415 12	Posted - 2015.02.11 09:45:00 - [7] - Quote TheOtherCheek TurnIt wrote: How much range does a proto rep tool have on a maxed out minlogi? What are some good low slot choices? Sixkin 22.5 meters boundless 30 meters core focus 11.25 meters the rest don't matter and for low slots I like kincats and ferroscales
Match Omega D3ATH CARD RUST415 12	Posted - 2015.02.11 09:57:00 - [8] - Quote whats is your best method would u say that u deal with scouts
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 278	Posted - 2015.02.11 10:25:00 - [9] - Quote Match Omega wrote: whats is your best method would u say that u deal with scouts When it comes to being a Logi, by far you are the easiest target to hit. Recently with the min assault stepping in place for many former scouts, high DPS I find seems to put them down fairly easy. In a tight CQC, I use shotguns and maybe a mass driver for the ones performing hit and run tactic. It's hard for them to escape the splash. Even a militia or basic is good enough. The best scouts in this game tend to use speed. Combine that with an SSD hardrive, and your looking at a demon. Stay alert and crack them with 2 concise chest shots and they're done. Once they start spamming RE's, then you've got them beat. The mass driver is the winner in this situation. Just sweep everything out the way. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 626	Posted - 2015.02.11 10:42:00 - [10] - Quote Match Omega wrote: whats is your best method would u say that u deal with scouts never run around by yourself. in pubs gallogi and scanner, or squad with people who have maxed scans if you haven't maxed out gallogi or are other race. know what scouts do too, where they usually flank from, after awhile you can sense them because they do the same old **** all the time. if you are an amarr logi run with with a PLC and a BP, the high alpha damage makes scouts instantly fuk off. there is no way to completely avoid scouts because 80% of people run them, one thing you can also do if you are solo is get an uplink up high where scouts can't easily get to so while you are repping blues at an objective or something other blues can spawn in. also, squad with people who play aggressive. trust me, i'm also the best logi in the game

Match Omega D3ATH CARD RUST415 12	Posted - 2015.02.11 10:53:00 - [11] - Quote so then what is required to be the best logi in the game?
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 626	Posted - 2015.02.11 10:57:00 - [12] - Quote Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? dik riding
Match Omega D3ATH CARD RUST415 12	Posted - 2015.02.11 10:58:00 - [13] - Quote hold that wrote: Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? dik riding lol
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1234	Posted - 2015.02.11 11:30:00 - [14] - Quote Match Omega wrote: hold that wrote: Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? dik riding lol but I do believe if worded differently it would not be far from the truth Gungame, and knowing when to use it. I know some great logis, who consistantly score high in pubs, but couldn't shoot their way out of a paperbag. Sad truth is, most of these guys dont fare well in PC. A rep tool doesn't kill enemies. If you can down some reds and revive and rep the blues after, that's what seperates the men from the boys. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Match Omega D3ATH CARD RUST415 12	Posted - 2015.02.11 11:33:00 - [15] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Match Omega wrote: hold that wrote: Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? dik riding lol but I do believe if worded differently it would not be far from the truth Gungame, and knowing when to use it. I know some great logis, who consistantly score high in pubs, but couldn't shoot their way out of a paperbag. Sad truth is, most of these guys dont fare well in PC. A rep tool doesn't kill enemies. If you can down some reds and revive and rep the blues after, that's what seperates the men from the boys. not really men from the boys but the protos from the professionals
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 627	Posted - 2015.02.11 11:38:00 - [16] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Match Omega wrote: hold that wrote: Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? dik riding lol but I do believe if worded differently it would not be far from the truth Gungame, and knowing when to use it. I know some great logis, who consistantly score high in pubs, but couldn't shoot their way out of a paperbag. Sad truth is, most of these guys dont fare well in PC. A rep tool doesn't kill enemies. If you can down some reds and revive and rep the blues after, that's what seperates the men from the boys. yeah man that's why i think that amarr and gal logis are the best ones.
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 158	Posted - 2015.02.11 13:48:00 - [17] - Quote Irish accent You like dags?. "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
Orion Sanjeet Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 272	Posted - 2015.02.11 14:20:00 - [18] - Quote Is it true that if humans didn't take it every time you tried to eat it, that your diet would consist entirely of yogurt? Ebola makes me feel all warm and squishy inside.
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1235	Posted - 2015.02.11 15:16:00 - [19] - Quote TerranKnight87 wrote: Irish accent You like dags?. "Oh you mean dogs.." 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 159	Posted - 2015.02.11 15:19:00 - [20] - Quote @ 0.55 onwards lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQSnua3M2lo "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.

xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 296	Posted - 2015.02.11 17:33:00 - [21] - Quote Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? Being the best Logi in the game is based on factors that separate you from the pack. Yet, for almost all, its personal opinion and favoritism of those who really are just sub-par. Most Logi's have a horrid overall K/D ratio. Since 1.8 in Uprising, my K/D dropped from a 4.0 to right below 3.0 currently due to game changes. I found that in doing PC of course, you'll find the most interesting and innovative tacticians. However The only "Logi" I found that was on par with myself in terms of generally gearing out 3500+ WP a PC match on a consistent basis while leading an entire 16 man unit during a highly contested fight, has only been myself and Reiselia from 0.H. back in her corps glory days. I have yet to meet another Logi other than her could multi-task a battle logistically the way I have. Back when I used to lead Gunfall Mobilization against Quickgloves in STB and DDB (1.4-1.6 UR), under my command we locked out QG and Jk40's team for about 4 weeks from district 2 on Skarkon 2. OSG had just lost their remaining districts, and my guys were the only ones left with any territory. We won about 75% of our engagements and prevented our district being flipped, until they had to come to me for negotiations. Upon which in the later days the district would be lost due to CCP's game defaults by DC'ing everyone but 6 players from the match on GF side. In FA's defining moment in single handedly taking on what would be later known as DNS, Zatara picked me up into the corp right at the start of the war. At first I had to earn my way into the squads of my choice. Once I got in we were able to form, in my opinion, the greatest PC team to ever play Dust. In one month alone, every district that was attacked by DNS was successfully defended... for over a month (we owned 16 at the time). Forcing Kain and Cubs to come to Zatara and broker a deal. Which we took with deception in mind. I feel I was lucky enough to play alongside the best tactical minds who gave me the opportunity to flourish as a logi. Skeletor Voltron and Himiko Kuronaga by far were the best heavies. When you paired them up, it was game over. We all worked together and because of that during DNS wars before and after we joined. 99% of the time I was right at No. 1 on the list with 4000+ WP by the EoM. (** these guys even trusted me to lead them into many battles which was like amaze-balls). Public matches are... cute. However, the only logi's I would say are worth even the time are PC logi's. Even then most and almost all cannot FC and Logi at the same time effectively. I find that always my biggest challenge when I PC, more-so than the enemy on the other side no matter who they are. If your team is competent enough to get the job done, then you might be able to become the best logi. \|LOGi GOD\|** Director of Fatal Absolution
Travis Stanush Y.A.M.A.H 376	Posted - 2015.02.11 17:40:00 - [22] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? Being the best Logi in the game is based on factors that separate you from the pack. Yet, for almost all, its personal opinion and favoritism of those who really are just sub-par. Most Logi's have a horrid overall K/D ratio. Since 1.8 in Uprising, my K/D dropped from a 4.0 to right below 3.0 currently due to game changes. I found that in doing PC of course, you'll find the most interesting and innovative tacticians. However The only "Logi" I found that was on par with myself in terms of generally gearing out 3500+ WP a PC match on a consistent basis while leading an entire 16 man unit during a highly contested fight, has only been myself and Reiselia from 0.H. back in her corps glory days. I have yet to meet another Logi other than her could multi-task a battle logistically the way I have. Back when I used to lead Gunfall Mobilization against Quickgloves in STB and DDB (1.4-1.6 UR), under my command we locked out QG and Jk40's team for about 4 weeks from district 2 on Skarkon 2. OSG had just lost their remaining districts, and my guys were the only ones left with any territory. We won about 75% of our engagements and prevented our district being flipped, until they had to come to me for negotiations. Upon which in the later days the district would be lost due to CCP's game defaults by DC'ing everyone but 6 players from the match on GF side. In FA's defining moment in single handedly taking on what would be later known as DNS, Zatara picked me up into the corp right at the start of the war. At first I had to earn my way into the squads of my choice. Once I got in we were able to form, in my opinion, the greatest PC team to ever play Dust. In one month alone, every district that was attacked by DNS was successfully defended... for over a month (we owned 16 at the time). Forcing Kain and Cubs to come to Zatara and broker a deal. Which we took with deception in mind. I feel I was lucky enough to play alongside the best tactical minds who gave me the opportunity to flourish as a logi. Skeletor Voltron and Himiko Kuronaga by far were the best heavies. When you paired them up, it was game over. We all worked together and because of that during DNS wars before and after we joined. 99% of the time I was right at No. 1 on the list with 4000+ WP by the EoM. (**** these guys even trusted me to lead them into many battles which was like amaze-balls). Public matches are... cute. However, the only logi's I would say are worth even the time are PC logi's. Even then most and almost all cannot FC and Logi at the same time effectively. I find that always my biggest challenge when I PC, more-so than the enemy on the other side no matter who they are. If your team is competent enough to get the job done, then you might be able to become the best logi. Yup I remember those days lol that was when PC was brand new. Gunfall had split a planet with Zion TCD.. good times. No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3184	Posted - 2015.02.11 18:00:00 - [23] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Combine that with an SSD hardrive, and your looking at a demon. Why do you say SSD makes a difference? At the start of matches, sure....but I'm at a loss to explain any in-game difference...thus the question.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 296	Posted - 2015.02.11 18:04:00 - [24] - Quote Orion Sanjeet wrote: Is it true that if humans didn't take it every time you tried to eat it, that your diet would consist entirely of yogurt? Lol. My fridge is stuffed with Yoplait... But because of Nani... not me of course... *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 296	Posted - 2015.02.11 18:11:00 - [25] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Combine that with an SSD hardrive, and your looking at a demon. Why do you say SSD makes a difference? At the start of matches, sure....but I'm at a loss to explain any in-game difference...thus the question. Solid State Hard-drives give players a faster play rate due to the immense complexity of what the game delivers in terms of customization. Every match you play includes the market, all of your drop suits, chat channels, etc. Now multiply that by 32 mercs and here comes the lag. PS3 is no more different than a computer. So if you have a faster processor to deal with the game, your in an overall better "state" lol. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3184	Posted - 2015.02.11 18:24:00 - [26] - Quote Not in my experience, having played extensively with and without an SSD and knowing a bit how computers like the PS3 work. Said a bit differently, while playing the game (i.e. not looking at your suits), there is virtually no difference in game performance (i.e. frame rate) between the two. Said even more directly: The game isn't reading disk much during a battle, and thus any performance gains are minimal. Loading the game? Sure! Moving between your quarters and the warbarge? Absolutely. In the battle? Not as best as I can tell. Why the eye roll?
Aramis Madrigal State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 367	Posted - 2015.02.11 18:32:00 - [27] - Quote Is it racist to assume that rabbits like carrots and am I a horrible person for doing so? -Aramis
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 296	Posted - 2015.02.11 18:41:00 - [28] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Not in my experience, having played extensively with and without an SSD and knowing a bit how computers like the PS3 work. Said a bit differently, while playing the game (i.e. not looking at your suits), there is virtually no difference in game performance (i.e. frame rate) between the two. Said even more directly: The game isn't reading disk much during a battle, and thus any performance gains are minimal. Loading the game? Sure! Moving between your quarters and the warbarge? Absolutely. In the battle? Not as best as I can tell -- outside of the time of initial rendering of certain sockets which doesn't affect game play one iota. If you have direct experience to the contrary, I'm all ears! Why the eye roll? Example. Outer Heaven to my knowledge has the most players with SSD. In PC they will always get to the points before anyone else UNLESS we send players with the same advantages to counter them. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3184	Posted - 2015.02.11 18:43:00 - [29] - Quote Agreed 100%. It gives you about 5 seconds spawn advantage. Beyond that.... I've really struggled to see any performance gain.
REDBACK96USMC Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 129	Posted - 2015.02.11 19:19:00 - [30] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Agreed 100%. It gives you about 5 seconds spawn advantage....and, like you guys, we've been forced to counter the same thing. Beyond that.... I've really struggled to see any performance gain. I'm open to the idea, but I've simply not seen it nor heard of it in my discussions with other players...which is why I reacted the way that I did upon reading your note. Tested this on multiple occassions. You get a 1.5 second at best lead. There is a hold function on spawn in that got rid of the "squad leader spawning 5 secs earlier" problem too.

Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 607	Posted - 2015.02.11 19:53:00 - [31] - Quote @ Rabbit about the MinLogi Do you prefer to stagger your uplinks with multiple suits or equip multiple links to 1 suit then switch out? I know that both methods are useful for link coverage but which do you think is a better tendency to develop. No Skill Required
Skeletor Voltron 65	Posted - 2015.02.11 20:03:00 - [32] - Quote xTSR masturbatory thread. lol FA's daddy bear Forever Faabulous
Travis Stanush Y.A.M.A.H 377	Posted - 2015.02.11 20:09:00 - [33] - Quote Aramis Madrigal wrote: Is it racist to assume that rabbits like carrots and am I a horrible person for doing so? -Aramis Yes He said the was Nani's yogurt it's actually his No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1237	Posted - 2015.02.11 20:10:00 - [34] - Quote Skeletor Voltron wrote: xTSR masturbatory thread. lol He is stroking a little hard eh? 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Juedfin90 BLACK-GUARD E.B.O.L.A. 16	Posted - 2015.02.11 20:13:00 - [35] - Quote I play Gal logi with 3 times complex prec enhancer (24 dB Scan) with 2 complex range mods (49 m passive Scan) 2 complex plates 1 complex rep (16 rep/s & 700 Hp in total) with 2 beast scanners and rep & neddlll ;-) ---->beast but Scan gives y not so much WP, but its a good team support " If you aren´t strong, be smart " citation from Sun Zu´s Book Tactics of War
Kuruld Sengar ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 203	Posted - 2015.02.11 20:13:00 - [36] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Not in my experience, having played extensively with and without an SSD and knowing a bit how computers like the PS3 work. Said a bit differently, while playing the game (i.e. not looking at your suits), there is virtually no difference in game performance (i.e. frame rate) between the two. Said even more directly: The game isn't reading disk much during a battle, and thus any performance gains are minimal. Loading the game? Sure! Moving between your quarters and the warbarge? Absolutely. In the battle? Not as best as I can tell -- outside of the time of initial rendering of certain sockets which doesn't affect game play one iota. If you have direct experience to the contrary, I'm all ears! Why the eye roll? Not completely accurate. The ps3 only has 256mb of ram and 256mb of vram, developers tend to use a larg pagefile on the hard drive to compensate, and this gives the SSD a noticeable advantage in high lag situations. Changing only the hard drive, performance changes almost night and day between the two on the underground depot map.
Skeletor Voltron 66	Posted - 2015.02.11 20:14:00 - [37] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Skeletor Voltron wrote: xTSR masturbatory thread. lol He is stroking a little hard eh? It's the usual for him. You get used to it FA's daddy bear Forever Faabulous
Harry Bawlss Fatal Absolution 62	Posted - 2015.02.11 22:50:00 - [38] - Quote I wish I had an E-Peen as big as Silly's...
Match Omega D3ATH CARD RUST415 14	Posted - 2015.02.11 23:39:00 - [39] - Quote well then I guess one of the biggest thing for a logi then that we haven't talked about is the way they should move while following their team what are some of your tips for that so that you don't get stuck or shot easily
Soul Cairn Fatal Absolution 17	Posted - 2015.02.11 23:42:00 - [40] - Quote Teach me how to Cal logi Born Ammatar, Caldari at heart.

xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 309	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:26:00 - [41] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: @ Rabbit about the MinLogi Do you prefer to stagger your uplinks with multiple suits or equip multiple links to 1 suit then switch out? I know that both methods are useful for link coverage but which do you think is a better tendency to develop. Good question. Since bandwidth was implemented, the max uplinks I've found to be able to drop are up to 10 consistently without fail. Unfortunatley in PC, out of the 10 uplinks I drop only 3-4 will survive the initial first wave of attacks once a perimeter is established. I have 9 individual drop suits geared for PC in a domino effect of logi work so to speak. the first two are geared towards uplinks primarily. Usually if my team can gain control of the match early, I won't have to go outside my two initial suits. A good strategy to develop would be to base each suit around a certain scenario that you happen to find yourself in. Pending on the fight, I even created a suit in which I equip two rep tools. The options are endless. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 153	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:29:00 - [42] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Match Omega wrote: hold that wrote: Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? dik riding lol but I do believe if worded differently it would not be far from the truth Gungame, and knowing when to use it. I know some great logis, who consistantly score high in pubs, but couldn't shoot their way out of a paperbag. Sad truth is, most of these guys dont fare well in PC. A rep tool doesn't kill enemies. If you can down some reds and revive and rep the blues after, that's what seperates the men from the boys. One day I'll grow up =ƒÿæ. Lol I gotta fit my logi with a better gun.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 9819	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:39:00 - [43] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: @ Rabbit about the MinLogi Do you prefer to stagger your uplinks with multiple suits or equip multiple links to 1 suit then switch out? I know that both methods are useful for link coverage but which do you think is a better tendency to develop. Good question. Since bandwidth was implemented, the max uplinks I've found to be able to drop are up to 10 consistently without fail. Unfortunatley in PC, out of the 10 uplinks I drop only 3-4 will survive the initial first wave of attacks once a perimeter is established. I have 9 individual drop suits geared for PC in a domino effect of logi work so to speak. the first two are geared towards uplinks primarily. Usually if my team can gain control of the match early, I won't have to go outside my two initial suits. A good strategy to develop would be to base each suit around a certain scenario that you happen to find yourself in. Pending on the fight, I even created a suit in which I equip two rep tools. The options are endless. To back this up: Remember, Links aren't solely the Logi's job. This job MUST be shared by the whole team. Yes, Logi's should have a link spam suit for when you NEED links, and you probably need one on at least every suit. HOWEVER, as he said, most get destroyed fairly quickly. It's common PC etiquette to kill links the moment you can safely do so (And some people have jobs that are solely link removal). In FA, we have the scouts helping with uplink control, both with removal and placement. What does this mean? Just like Silly said, Links should only be dominant on fits in the early stages of the match. After the initial dominance is established, its normally very easy for two logis and two scouts to keep a good 8-10 links on the field, scattered about. After the team has established a perimeter, the suits would focus more on sustaining troops against assault (With reps, needles, etc). Now, maintaining the Link net is a topic in and of itself, but I think that should answer most of your questions. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 9820	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:44:00 - [44] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Match Omega wrote: hold that wrote: Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? dik riding lol but I do believe if worded differently it would not be far from the truth Gungame, and knowing when to use it. I know some great logis, who consistantly score high in pubs, but couldn't shoot their way out of a paperbag. Sad truth is, most of these guys dont fare well in PC. A rep tool doesn't kill enemies. If you can down some reds and revive and rep the blues after, that's what seperates the men from the boys. One day I'll grow up =ƒÿæ. Lol I gotta fit my logi with a better gun. Better Gun =/= Better GunGame Get that through your head right now. Gun Game has nothing to do with the tier of gun you are using. Universal Gun Game Tips: Know when to hipfire, and when to ADS Know your recoil, and how to burst to reduce it. PREFIRE CORNERS Take Corners wide if you don't know whats around it. Know how to strafe and use cover. As a Logi, your goal is primarily to avoid death until your HMG death machine comes to get your attacker. Knowing how to strafe and use cover WHILE MAINTAINING LOCK is huge for a Logi. If you AREN'T repping, you need to quickly down your target, or at least drag him to an area with friendlies. Preferbly the second. People love logis that don't die the moment they are primaried. You gotta know how to survive, and take people down. You'll know gun game when you see it. You will shoot at someone, watch most of your shots miss, and quickly be downed. Or its that guy who you get the jump on, and can't seem to finish off. Then he kills you in reload. Those are people with gun game. Its a combination of shooting ability, situational awareness, and strafing/using cover. Hope that helps. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
VECTORS ABROAD Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2015.02.12 03:48:00 - [45] - Quote I have 18 million+ skill points and I am wondering if I should respec to get a gk.0 logi along with a mk.0 logi and prototype all the equipment except for cloak field and systems hacking. would like some tips thx Life sucks sometimes, much like Dust 514.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 309	Posted - 2015.02.12 04:00:00 - [46] - Quote VECTORS ABROAD wrote: I have 18 million+ skill points and I am wondering if I should respec to get a gk.0 logi along with a mk.0 logi and prototype all the equipment except for cloak field and systems hacking. would like some tips thx The two main suits you should have as a logi are the Minmatar and Amarr; everything else is preference. The Gallente Logi is making a bit of a comeback in terms of E-War against Scan-dampened enemies, and general all purpose sit rep of the enemy location. However, still I find the suit struggling to compete with the amarr and min drop suit. Outside the suit as a whole, it wouldn't be a bad move to spec into the Gal logi. There is a use for it competitively. Master your hacking skills. Cloaks are worthless for a logi suit, leave that to the scouts. Hope I answered some questions *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
VECTORS ABROAD Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2015.02.12 04:02:00 - [47] - Quote based on what I have seen on protofits, amarr logo doesn't really appeal to me. Life sucks sometimes, much like Dust 514.
Harry Bawlss Fatal Absolution 63	Posted - 2015.02.12 04:17:00 - [48] - Quote How is logi difficult ?
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1237	Posted - 2015.02.12 04:22:00 - [49] - Quote Harry Bawlss wrote: How is logi difficult ? How is scout? How is Assault? How is Heavy or Commando? It requires a set of skills to master, just like any class. Those who say "just hold R1" have never run a logi in PC. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
TheOtherCheek TurnIt Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2015.02.12 07:23:00 - [50] - Quote What would be a good weapon for a logi?

Vektus Alvoraan WarRavens Capital Punishment. 66	Posted - 2015.02.12 13:51:00 - [51] - Quote Situational. Awareness. Knowing who and what is around you is one of the most important factors in being the best logi. Know your limits and never try to be a hero. Only shoot to stave off attackers, or to get a confirmed kill. Never take on what you cannot ultimately defeat. It WILL result in your death and possibly the death of teammates around you. Also try to stay away from the killzone, keep a distance between you and your teammates as they confront the enemy. Strategic placement of deployable equipment, such as nanohive, uplinks, and Remote Explosives/Proximity Explosives can also make a world of a difference. Whipping out your rep tool acts as a sort of scanner for yourself, as you can read the vital signs of friendlies in about a 20-25 meter radius. Keeping an eye on team member's status is very helpful, as it tells you who needs repping, and if you're attentive, you'll get an idea of what is going on on their side. This is done by seeing how fast their health is going down. Taking account your own expenses is also paramount to your success. Never run what you can't afford to lose, UNLESS the match seems to be in your favor. These are simply just a few simple steps on the path of becoming a great, if not the BEST logi out there. Good luck, and happy hunting. =ƒÿè7 DUST 514 Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.02.12 14:26:00 - [52] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Harry Bawlss wrote: How is logi difficult ? How is scout? How is Assault? How is Heavy or Commando? It requires a set of skills to master, just like any class. Those who say "just hold R1" have never run a logi in PC. ^^^^ *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.02.12 14:29:00 - [53] - Quote TheOtherCheek TurnIt wrote: What would be a good weapon for a logi? Use whatever you feel will get the job done. I use my CR,SG,MD,SL the most often as light weapons, pending on the situation. Secondary I love to use the SMG and Flaylock. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
Harry Bawlss Fatal Absolution 64	Posted - 2015.02.12 15:15:00 - [54] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Harry Bawlss wrote: How is logi difficult ? How is scout? How is Assault? How is Heavy or Commando? It requires a set of skills to master, just like any class. Those who say "just hold R1" have never run a logi in PC. I have logi'd in more PC's than you played pubs... It was a sarcasm comment. But how about them epeens?
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1238	Posted - 2015.02.12 16:22:00 - [55] - Quote Harry Bawlss wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Harry Bawlss wrote: How is logi difficult ? How is scout? How is Assault? How is Heavy or Commando? It requires a set of skills to master, just like any class. Those who say "just hold R1" have never run a logi in PC. I have logi'd in more PC's than you played pubs... It was a sarcasm comment. But how about them epeens? Sarcasm is so easy to detect through writing.. Also, my corp held the very first planet completely owned by a corp for a couple months. Defended against the likes of IMPS, PFBHz, Hellstorm (before AE,) ect. I was a-team and played PC 12 hours a day some days. I highly doubt you have any more experience than me. We can compare dik sizes all day.. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 317	Posted - 2015.02.12 16:27:00 - [56] - Quote PLEASE KEEP THIS CHANNEL CONSTRUCTIVE AND INFORMATIONAL. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
Harry Bawlss Fatal Absolution 66	Posted - 2015.02.12 16:55:00 - [57] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: PLEASE KEEP THIS CHANNEL CONSTRUCTIVE AND INFORMATIONAL. Dik size is constructive silly, and the silly guy doesn't know my main so let me have fun withthiss. BBecause my size has the girth
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1238	Posted - 2015.02.12 17:10:00 - [58] - Quote Harry Bawlss wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: PLEASE KEEP THIS CHANNEL CONSTRUCTIVE AND INFORMATIONAL. Dik size is constructive silly, and the silly guy doesn't know my main so let me have fun withthiss. BBecause my size has the girth 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Ku Shala UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE 1251	Posted - 2015.02.12 17:18:00 - [59] - Quote As a logi do you prefer being squad lead? does having command orders help your performance as a logi eyeing out the enemy and directing the players you support with logistics? How practical a role is pilot logistics? *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist Superior technology will privale.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 317	Posted - 2015.02.12 17:33:00 - [60] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: As a logi do you prefer being squad lead? does having command orders help your performance as a logi eyeing out the enemy and directing the players you support with logistics? How practical a role is pilot logistics? I do prefer squad lead due to the extra points and access to orbitals. Command points are always a plus. Furthermore it does help in terms of spotting those that can't be seen as an immediate threat, though I would prefer the feature of secondary command orders for other players in squad in case I can't see what my teammates can. Pilot logistics are vital in my opinion. They have the ability to place links in high places immediately, which is why the amarr logistics would make a perfect pairing in ADS. The amount of time to call an ADS, get inside, and fly to a said objective from the ground would take over a minute. As crazy as it sounds, one minute is all it takes to be on the losing side of the battle. Having your Ace already airborne from the start of the match will give you access to strategic advantages later during the match. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3194	Posted - 2015.02.12 18:40:00 - [61] - Quote Kuruld Sengar wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Not in my experience, having played extensively with and without an SSD and knowing a bit how computers like the PS3 work. Said a bit differently, while playing the game (i.e. not looking at your suits), there is virtually no difference in game performance (i.e. frame rate) between the two. Said even more directly: The game isn't reading disk much during a battle, and thus any performance gains are minimal. Loading the game? Sure! Moving between your quarters and the warbarge? Absolutely. In the battle? Not as best as I can tell -- outside of the time of initial rendering of certain sockets which doesn't affect game play one iota. If you have direct experience to the contrary, I'm all ears! Why the eye roll? Not completely accurate. The ps3 only has 256mb of ram and 256mb of vram, developers tend to use a larg pagefile on the hard drive to compensate, and this gives the SSD a noticeable advantage in high lag situations. Changing only the hard drive, performance changes almost night and day between the two on the underground depot map. Lag is network based, not PS3 performance based. So perhaps you meant to say "slow framerate situations" instead of "high lag"? And FWIW, the performance on the Gallente Lag Facility didn't change much for me outside the initial loading of the socket -- performance is still spotty for both SSD and non-SSD players as best as I can tell. What's worse is that it often changes if you go outside and then back into the city for some odd reason...for both SSD and non-SSD PS3s. What led you to say the difference in performance is "almost night and day", because I didn't notice anything outside of initial rendering/loading of the socket. Once it's loaded it seems to preform the same regardless of if you have a SSD or not...but perhaps I need to play around some more as it's been a while since I popped the HD back into my PS3. [and my apologies to the OP for the tangent that has nothing to do with logi-ing]
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1676	Posted - 2015.02.12 19:24:00 - [62] - Quote The best tip I've found for logi in PC is.... lolLogis
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 142	Posted - 2015.02.12 19:59:00 - [63] - Quote My question is "Sometimes my level 5 amarr plays a big role in winning the match when it puts an uplink in the right spot, Is there any way to use the caldari bonus just as effectively?"
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1238	Posted - 2015.02.13 00:51:00 - [64] - Quote jane stalin wrote: My question is "Sometimes my level 5 amarr plays a big role in winning the match when it puts an uplink in the right spot, Is there any way to use the caldari bonus just as effectively?" Carry a proto needle and rep hives. Set up shop on a point with a heavy and defend. Everyone says the amarr is the most assault-like, but I would have to go with the caldari. The thing that hurts the cal is the nerf they recieved many moons ago. They are not the slayers they once were. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 142	Posted - 2015.02.13 09:56:00 - [65] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: [quote=Ku Shala] The amount of time to call an ADS, get inside, and fly to a said objective from the ground would take over a minute. As crazy as it sounds, one minute is all it takes to be on the losing side of the battle. Having your Ace already airborne from the start of the match will give you access to strategic advantages later during the match. Do you stay high near your redline or do you race around like a maniac?
DarthPlagueis TheWise 449	Posted - 2015.02.13 11:22:00 - [66] - Quote hold that wrote: Match Omega wrote: so then what is required to be the best logi in the game? dik riding Was going to post in this thread, but my work has already been done for me. you know you've been playing dust too long when you can remember the last valentines day sale
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 631	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:08:00 - [67] - Quote jane stalin wrote: My question is "Sometimes my level 5 amarr plays a big role in winning the match when it puts an uplink in the right spot, Is there any way to use the caldari bonus just as effectively?" amarr excels because you only really need to put one link down at a time, and by the time it's destroyed or depleted you will already have cycled your team through to help capture/defend the point or whatever you are trying to do. logis also need to kill things, and having the ability to use a alpha damage light like a plc, or a AoE wep like a mass driver, or AV, then switch to sidearm is straight up good. cal is extremely situational. best map for it is meat grinder because there is a depot nearby, or 50 clone ambush when you know it's going to be a zerg. i'm lazy so i'll paste what i was saying recently about cal logi: "cal logi is underpowered for many reasons, and i'm sure if ccp showed us the numbers on how many people use them they would be shockingly low. in order to run cal logi at it's max potential you have to do a couple things. 1 is run it proto in order to get the 3 equipment slots. 2 run a cpu upgrade, which makes the 5 highs and 4 lows worthless because ultimately you have the same eHP as everyone else, but with less regen, damp, stam, speed. because of the cal logi's bonus (which is an awesome one) 2 of your equipment slots will be dedicated to various hives, making you lose out on a needle, uplink, or scanner as the other one should be a repper. problem is there is very few maps/situations where hives will stay out long enough to benefit the team. i would say the best use for a cal logi is just run proto hives in all slots, drop them then switch out to another 32 BW logi/cal logi with repper, needle, scanner or hive because of how easy it is to destroy hives and the other problems stated above, cal logi is the absolute worse logi for PC."
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 535	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:29:00 - [68] - Quote hold that wrote: jane stalin wrote: My question is "Sometimes my level 5 amarr plays a big role in winning the match when it puts an uplink in the right spot, Is there any way to use the caldari bonus just as effectively?" amarr excels because you only really need to put one link down at a time, and by the time it's destroyed or depleted you will already have cycled your team through to help capture/defend the point or whatever you are trying to do. logis also need to kill things, and having the ability to use a alpha damage light like a plc, or a AoE wep like a mass driver, or AV, then switch to sidearm is straight up good. cal is extremely situational. best map for it is meat grinder because there is a depot nearby, or 50 clone ambush when you know it's going to be a zerg. i'm lazy so i'll paste what i was saying recently about cal logi: "cal logi is underpowered for many reasons, and i'm sure if ccp showed us the numbers on how many people use them they would be shockingly low. in order to run cal logi at it's max potential you have to do a couple things. 1 is run it proto in order to get the 3 equipment slots. 2 run a cpu upgrade, which makes the 5 highs and 4 lows worthless because ultimately you have the same eHP as everyone else, but with less regen, damp, stam, speed. because of the cal logi's bonus (which is an awesome one) 2 of your equipment slots will be dedicated to various hives, making you lose out on a needle, uplink, or scanner as the other one should be a repper. problem is there is very few maps/situations where hives will stay out long enough to benefit the team. i would say the best use for a cal logi is just run proto hives in all slots, drop them then switch out to another 32 BW logi/cal logi with repper, needle, scanner or hive because of how easy it is to destroy hives and the other problems stated above, cal logi is the absolute worse logi for PC." @ hold that, I run logi's and just wanted to correct the running Cal Logi proto for 3 equipment slot thing. The advanced Cal Logi has 3 equipment slots also, good info tho :) Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Soul Cairn Fatal Absolution 28	Posted - 2015.02.14 01:24:00 - [69] - Quote No seriously though, I'm terribad at Cal Logi. Born Ammatar, Caldari at heart.
Crazy Cat Lady Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 247	Posted - 2015.03.02 01:13:00 - [70] - Quote bump.

xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 351	Posted - 2015.03.02 01:46:00 - [71] - Quote Crazy Cat Lady wrote: bump. Cat! *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
CPM Awox Mexican Justice League 105	Posted - 2015.03.02 02:14:00 - [72] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Crazy Cat Lady wrote: bump. Cat! Question: Which heavy is the most awesome/gayest you ever logied for? Killed again has Super-Ebola.
Ghost Kaisar Negative-Feedback 10113	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:18:00 - [73] - Quote CPM Awox wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Crazy Cat Lady wrote: bump. Cat! Question: Which heavy is the most awesome/gayest you ever logied for? Gayest would definitely be Mythtanker. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
P14GU3 UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E 1263	Posted - 2015.03.02 17:53:00 - [74] - Quote Crazy Cat Lady wrote: bump. ^ the real logi god[ess] 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 361	Posted - 2015.03.02 20:44:00 - [75] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Crazy Cat Lady wrote: bump. ^ the real logi god[ess] This is very true. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1807	Posted - 2015.03.02 21:13:00 - [76] - Quote jane stalin wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: [quote=Ku Shala] The amount of time to call an ADS, get inside, and fly to a said objective from the ground would take over a minute. As crazy as it sounds, one minute is all it takes to be on the losing side of the battle. Having your Ace already airborne from the start of the match will give you access to strategic advantages later during the match. Do you stay high near your redline or do you race around like a maniac? I know your not asking me but , I like to defend my links that I place and also check the points to keep them current and kept up where pressure is constant . I can't just lay links and leave them exposed because I feel like the troops spawning there are my personal responsibility because I placed the links there but if I see the other team is not fielding any air support I get on the ground but while they fly and I have links , I fly too just to protect my troops and links . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 367	Posted - 2015.03.02 21:22:00 - [77] - Quote CPM Awox wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Crazy Cat Lady wrote: bump. Cat! Question: Which heavy is the most awesome/gayest you ever logied for? Lol hey myth. To answer your question, the best heavies I had the opportunity to work with happen to be quite a few. Himiko Kuronaga Mythtanker Angeal Wolfbane Neodarc Solar Quio Skeletor Voltron Ydubbs Roman837 ChicagoCubs *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
CPM Awox Mexican Justice League 111	Posted - 2015.03.02 21:58:00 - [78] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: CPM Awox wrote: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Crazy Cat Lady wrote: bump. Cat! Question: Which heavy is the most awesome/gayest you ever logied for? Lol hey myth. To answer your question, the best heavies I had the opportunity to work with happen to be quite a few. Himiko Kuronaga Mythtanker Angeal Wolfbane Neodarc Solar Quio Skeletor Voltron Ydubbs Roman837 ChicagoCubs Awesome but you still need to sing happy birthday to me. Killed again has Super-Ebola.


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