It's all about the money Aeon. You see...the more players CCP acquires, the more money they make. New players won't be attracted to the game if they are always losing and dying. So how does CCP fix this problem you may ask. Well, they have two options, they could fix match-making which would place vets against vets, or they could hold the vets back. Guess which one they chose? lol. It started with the whole racial bonus thing. This allowed new players to spend a certain amount of SP and be productive on the battlefield in one particular role. Before this the vets were extremely OP as the could change between roles and be the best at every role they had. With this new racial bonus option, new players could stand a better chance of being just as productive on the battlefield as someone with multiple roles.

The next big jump was the introduction of bandwidth, which made it nearly impossible to run multiple roles. Vets used to start a match in their uplink suits, then switch to any other suit accordingly. Now with bandwidth, you have to run logi the whole match or another role, one or the other. In doing this, it limits the vets options or versatility and therefore helps the new players.

The lastest installment of "let's screw our vets out of what they grinded for", is Apex suits. Finally, the day has come where Dust goes complete noob. This is the mother load for CCP. New players are drooling over proto BPO's. They can compete with the vets a little better and make lots of isk, no worries. No skills required. And CCP gets money from those who decide to purchase these with aurum. OH YEA! Just awesome.

The last thing and most recent thing they have come out with is what your topic is about. Now, it will help with afk'ing, however...why ambush? Then after reading everything I've written above...it all starts to make sense. Just another way CCP tries to level the playing field without making it look to obvious, that they are intentionally restricting veteran players, like a boa constrictor they just keep squeezing. Do you know how to boil a frog? You don't boil the water then throw a frog in it...it'll just jump out. Instead, you put it on simmer and place the frog in the warm water, it enjoys it and doesn't realize it's being cooked until it's too late. They are doing the same thing to the vets. Little by little.

I think you just hate ambush?

We tried to fix ambush spawn mechanics, which were random, more like BF/COD, just spawn away in the distance, but then the blob was invincible.

The current mechanic tries to put you close to the hub of your teammates, but if they are being massacred, it's not good either.

Then we get into "if X deaths in area, then not spawn close to friends, just in outer rims", and that isn't easy either.

Any super smart ideas?

You could also worry less about others and just do what you do that brings you enjoyment.

EDIT: To better establish my point here: Why is the minimum WP for SP a thing in Ambush? If it was meant to combat AFKers, and there isn't any safe location to AFK in Ambush, then who's it stopping?

Not true, I AFK'd once or twice in ambush, you just pop down a bunch of droplinks and then wander around in the hills. Besides, you don't really need to be safe to AFK

lol. YES!!!! Someone with common sense. Are their others or are we the only ones that survived?

Unfortunately no, I ate them to absorb their powers

I think you just hate ambush?

We tried to fix ambush spawn mechanics, which were random, more like BF/COD, just spawn away in the distance, but then the blob was invincible.

The current mechanic tries to put you close to the hub of your teammates, but if they are being massacred, it's not good either.

Then we get into "if X deaths in area, then not spawn close to friends, just in outer rims", and that isn't easy either.

Any super smart ideas?

Not true, I AFK'd once or twice in ambush, you just pop down a bunch of droplinks and then wander around in the hills. Besides, you don't really need to be safe to AFK

If a vet cant Reach 150 WP, he totally deserves to be rewarded with 0 SP, ambush or not. Because it means that that vet wasnt even trying at all. Period.

If you can't keep up you don't get paid...

However, it's dumb. Why would they put this system in when academy is such a short process? Soon as they're done they're thrown into pubs - get there ass handed to them - and now they're punished for it.

CCP hates new players.

Any super smart ideas?

I left that match because I looked at the competition (mostly veterans with proto) and my team (bumbling guys in militia ...) and left the match because I knew that it was going to be a lost cause.

Super Smart Spawn will not spawn a unit within (X) meters of enemy.

Stop being bad at ambush?

150 WP is very attainable through kill assists alone.

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Super Smart Spawn will not spawn a unit within (X) meters of enemy.[/quote
What if they exploit this? We could in Resistance. All you have to do is spread out 195% of the distance (x) over the whole map. Picture overlapping circles. All you need to do is pick a spot and remove that guy. That spot would be the only one they can spawn in.

Part of the problem is you don't know where smart deploy will spawn you, it should appear as part of the countdown so you can abort if the area's being overrun

I think you just hate ambush?

We tried to fix ambush spawn mechanics, which were random, more like BF/COD, just spawn away in the distance, but then the blob was invincible.

The current mechanic tries to put you close to the hub of your teammates, but if they are being massacred, it's not good either.

Then we get into "if X deaths in area, then not spawn close to friends, just in outer rims", and that isn't easy either.

Any super smart ideas?

Depends upon how badly matchmaking/mu performed. It is not uncommon for the stomp side to lose fewer than 10 clones by match end. Not many assists to go around.

I think you just hate ambush?

We tried to fix ambush spawn mechanics, which were random, more like BF/COD, just spawn away in the distance, but then the blob was invincible.

The current mechanic tries to put you close to the hub of your teammates, but if they are being massacred, it's not good either.

Then we get into "if X deaths in area, then not spawn close to friends, just in outer rims", and that isn't easy either.

Any super smart ideas?

I think you just hate ambush?

We tried to fix ambush spawn mechanics, which were random, more like BF/COD, just spawn away in the distance, but then the blob was invincible.

The current mechanic tries to put you close to the hub of your teammates, but if they are being massacred, it's not good either.

Then we get into "if X deaths in area, then not spawn close to friends, just in outer rims", and that isn't easy either.

Any super smart ideas?

Nothing like running ADV/Proto gear against a proto-stomp team in Ambush only to come out with 125 WP and not get any SP for the match.

Just shelling out ISK for nothing at this point.

Under current mechanics, none of these people would have received SP:
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http://i.imgur.com/r1OsMSi.png
http://i.imgur.com/XIbZFiZ.png

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The question you have to ask is: What meaningful function does the WP Minimum implement? What is it supposed to do, who is it supposed to affect, and who gets caught the crossfire unnecessarily?

If the WP Minimum was implemented to keep people from AFKing, then Ambush shouldn't be in the equation because it's nigh impossible to AFK through an Ambush.

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