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Varoth Drac wrote:

Gotta say, I strongly disagree.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Min scout, and I'm really glad it's finally good enough to play with the big boys. But its not the strongest scout.

The fact is, shotguns are superior cqc weapons to nova knives, even with the Min scout damage bonus. The only reasons I use knives over the shotgun are:
1. You can use a light weapon as well. This gives you a slightly better ranged option. This allows more tactical options, even though you are weaker than a shotgun scout up close. Though pairing an smg or bolt pistol with a shotgun is nearly as good. If you stick to cqc, an smg is all you need outside of shotgun range.
2. Those rare occasions where you get a stealthy knife kill and it's helpful to prevent you from drawing attention to yourself. This makes me feel badass, rather than being reliably useful.
3. Kudos. Most people would agree that a knife kill takes more skill than a shotgun, so kills feel better. Maybe I just suck, but I still find getting kills with knives more challenging than most weapons.

EWAR may have been nerfed on scouts. Gallente logi active scans are now the king of scans. They may not be all that common, but they are common enough to give Gal and Cal scouts an advantage by allowing them to avoid detection using one less slot that a Min or Am scout.

Hack speed is good, but is isn't any more useful than dampening. A slightly faster hack speed will not help in most situations. Being able to fit an extra mod as you don't need as many damps is useful. Also, scout passive scans may have been toned down, but they are still a factor, and the fact remains that Min scouts are the worst at this.

Fitting capability. The low pg still punishes Min scouts compared to other scouts. Kinetic catalysers, codebreakers, cloaks and uplinks are all very pg intensive. It's much easier to fit a Gal, Am or Cal scout than a Min.

Not trying to moan, I think Min scouts are great. Its just that I have to disagree with the idea they are superior to Caldari and Gallente scouts. Amarr maybe, but not the others. Even if Min scouts were the best, it's definitely would't be by a wide enough margin to be an issue.

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TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1662	Posted - 2015.01.30 18:56:00 - [1] - Quote The Min Scout is over-performing. And becoming FoTm Reasons: - CCP killed Scout EWAR (The Minja has worse EWAR, but that hardly matters anymore) With EWAR being left near useless, that downside to the MinScout means little - NK range buff (2m is too much, they are daggers you swipe with) A 2m lunge is not how they are used, when knifing you look like a dam T-Rex, how can that be 2m? - Hack Speed (used to be great when other Scouts were good, now it hands a major advantage) Killing off EWAR use on Scouts screws 3 race types, leaving Minmatar ahead of the pack Where before the Min Bonuses made up for what it lacked compared to Cal/Gal... Now EWAR means little, so those Scouts lost their main bonuses.. Have CCP noticed this?? I love the MinScout, but when the FoTm bandwagon are all wearing it, you know there's a problem Fixes: - Define the role of Scouts, should they be intel slaves and WP candy for Slayers?? OR should they be the assassins waiting for you to drop your guard? - EWAR, have the bonus come from modules not suits. 16v16 boxed in objectives, leaves little room for an intel role ... But murder packs, or 1500hp fattys on point defence, leaves room for an assassin So should Scout EWAR/Bonuses be re-looked at??
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7527	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:11:00 - [2] - Quote According to Rattati, the data demonstrates that NKs have become less effective. CCP Rattati wrote: Guys, if NK kills were remotely a problem, or a potential problem, with slightly lower backpedal, I wouldn't be advocating for them. With Scanning changes, they became less effective, but I want all styles, even niche, to be able to flourish if they want to. It's not my personal style, but I appreciate it and get killed by novas every 10 battles, maybe. Stats say the same. We should be proud of our NKers if anything. I tend to think "good kill", versus "**** you" for most other kills. In regards to hacking, it is a very limited skill. To be really fast, you have to sacrifice any dampening in order to do it. That means being easily picked up by scanners and passive scans, even those of medium frames. Just because you are good at what you do doesn't mean the role itself is OP. Not until the data backs it up. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7527	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:16:00 - [3] - Quote P.S. If you look here, at Rattati's Big Board of Things, you will find a column called Dropsuits and Roles, in which he has a post considering scout roles and bonuses. This also goes for assaults. Its a pretty interesting list as a whole. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1662	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:37:00 - [4] - Quote Thanks for the feedback. I do strongly disagree on there being any difficulty left to using NK's Between range and what seems like Aim-Assist on a pair of knives, it's too easy I have been knifing for quite sometime, and since that 'buff' I have gotten many kills from clear misses But the extra range, and the magnets in my knives take away half the fun With Scanning changes, and Scout nerfs.. most players repecc'd So of course there is less use, there are less Scouts overall, so not surprising And bringing back, Perma-Scan is not the best reason to have the range of a sword with NK's They are Knives, they should be used in the closest range possible... Either way, prior to 'nerfs' the Minja had drawbacks compared to other Scouts (crap EWAR) Now the other Scouts have a drawback (crap EWAR) without a dmg/hack bonus... That's my issue, before the MinScout had combat advantages, over the others having EWAR But EWAR means carrying a Scanner at this stage, so the others have lost their advantage. - I run Scouts mostly, Min/Gal/Am/Cal Minmatar being my primary, It hurts condemning my main role .. But I was raised with a 3/2 slot layout, battling against the other Scouts with 1m NK range Now... it's the Amarr Sentinel of Scout suits. dafuq happened there ??
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 21477	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:39:00 - [5] - Quote o_O *Vote 'Keshava' for a new Gallente vehicle name!* Gallente Guide to DUST
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1662	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:52:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: o_O Sigh, I never expect much from the forums.. I'll end up being that crazy guy reminding everyone 'I tried to warn you, no one would listen' - Min Scout = Speed Hacks/OHK - Gal Scout = Damped while keeping speed - Cal Scout = Crazy Regen, or Damps. slow - Am Scout = ehhmmm, I like the suit, but has nothing the Gal can't do better (18db scans is not low enough) With EWAR taking a kick in the nuts, The Cal/Gal lost their place as the better suits Gallente is a close second, but the Min Scout is noticeably better in Pubs/PC... I'd like to see the NK range reduced at least, that would tone it down somewhat.. But after testing multiple fits on all 4 Scouts, I think a re-work of the bonuses is needed EWAR bonuses on suits should be killed with fire. just make the modules usable for all
Varoth Drac Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 551	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:13:00 - [7] - Quote Gotta say, I strongly disagree. Don't get me wrong, I love the Min scout, and I'm really glad it's finally good enough to play with the big boys. But its not the strongest scout. The fact is, shotguns are superior cqc weapons to nova knives, even with the Min scout damage bonus. The only reasons I use knives over the shotgun are: 1. You can use a light weapon as well. This gives you a slightly better ranged option. This allows more tactical options, even though you are weaker than a shotgun scout up close. Though pairing an smg or bolt pistol with a shotgun is nearly as good. If you stick to cqc, an smg is all you need outside of shotgun range. 2. Those rare occasions where you get a stealthy knife kill and it's helpful to prevent you from drawing attention to yourself. This makes me feel badass, rather than being reliably useful. 3. Kudos. Most people would agree that a knife kill takes more skill than a shotgun, so kills feel better. Maybe I just suck, but I still find getting kills with knives more challenging than most weapons. EWAR may have been nerfed on scouts. Gallente logi active scans are now the king of scans. They may not be all that common, but they are common enough to give Gal and Cal scouts an advantage by allowing them to avoid detection using one less slot that a Min or Am scout. Hack speed is good, but is isn't any more useful than dampening. A slightly faster hack speed will not help in most situations. Being able to fit an extra mod as you don't need as many damps is useful. Also, scout passive scans may have been toned down, but they are still a factor, and the fact remains that Min scouts are the worst at this. Fitting capability. The low pg still punishes Min scouts compared to other scouts. Kinetic catalysers, codebreakers, cloaks and uplinks are all very pg intensive. It's much easier to fit a Gal, Am or Cal scout than a Min. Not trying to moan, I think Min scouts are great. Its just that I have to disagree with the idea they are superior to Caldari and Gallente scouts. Amarr maybe, but not the others. Even if Min scouts were the best, it's definitely would't be by a wide enough margin to be an issue.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6230	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:17:00 - [8] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: The Min Scout is over-performing. And becoming FoTm FoTM tends to hang out in the Top 10: http://dust.thang.dk/market_tryhardinator.php Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 1043	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:20:00 - [9] - Quote Don't nerf the Minja after it was granted a buff. Thats low and the fact it still has low Hp. Keep your distance and shoot them. Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol. I am the Assassin.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 825	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:29:00 - [10] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Gotta say, I strongly disagree. Don't get me wrong, I love the Min scout, and I'm really glad it's finally good enough to play with the big boys. But its not the strongest scout. The fact is, shotguns are superior cqc weapons to nova knives, even with the Min scout damage bonus. The only reasons I use knives over the shotgun are: 1. You can use a light weapon as well. This gives you a slightly better ranged option. This allows more tactical options, even though you are weaker than a shotgun scout up close. Though pairing an smg or bolt pistol with a shotgun is nearly as good. If you stick to cqc, an smg is all you need outside of shotgun range. 2. Those rare occasions where you get a stealthy knife kill and it's helpful to prevent you from drawing attention to yourself. This makes me feel badass, rather than being reliably useful. 3. Kudos. Most people would agree that a knife kill takes more skill than a shotgun, so kills feel better. Maybe I just suck, but I still find getting kills with knives more challenging than most weapons. EWAR may have been nerfed on scouts. Gallente logi active scans are now the king of scans. They may not be all that common, but they are common enough to give Gal and Cal scouts an advantage by allowing them to avoid detection using one less slot that a Min or Am scout. Hack speed is good, but is isn't any more useful than dampening. A slightly faster hack speed will not help in most situations. Being able to fit an extra mod as you don't need as many damps is useful. Also, scout passive scans may have been toned down, but they are still a factor, and the fact remains that Min scouts are the worst at this. Fitting capability. The low pg still punishes Min scouts compared to other scouts. Kinetic catalysers, codebreakers, cloaks and uplinks are all very pg intensive. It's much easier to fit a Gal, Am or Cal scout than a Min. Not trying to moan, I think Min scouts are great. Its just that I have to disagree with the idea they are superior to Caldari and Gallente scouts. Amarr maybe, but not the others. Even if Min scouts were the best, it's definitely would't be by a wide enough margin to be an issue. Minmatar are supposed to have lower fitting capabilities they have the best base stats(excluding hp). The base stats that min scouts have are better than e-war. E-war is a joke on scouts, even if they get a bonus to it, the active scanner will always be better because it's much easier to use and only requires one slot. Not to mention scouts can't even scan a properly dampened scout so using precision enhancers is a waste of slots when you can have a much more efficient scanner at the price of 1 equipment slot. Hack speed wins matches, dampening just lets a player get away IF they're not spotted. Again E-war on scouts is a non-factor when compared to the benefits of an active scanner. E-war is no longer a big enough scout factor for it to make a suit "worse," than another suit. Avoiding detection doesn't do anything, "wow they can't see you, and you're low hp suit because you're dedicated to e-war and can't scan back because the cloak removes all passive scans, and the range of passive scans is awful anyway. you're such a gud player!" At this point all scouting has been reduced to shield/speed tank(maybe damps) because passive scanning is pointless. Because of this fact the min scout is on/above par to the other scout suits. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk #We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th

TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 647	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:32:00 - [11] - Quote The minja is actually a very..."flexible" suit. You can stack melee mods, you can hack fast, you can knife fast... and run the fastest. Not to mention sticking RE's onto tanks. Life has no "real" meaning. We are just dust particles in an endless world we call space. Just have fun while you live.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 165	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:58:00 - [12] - Quote I agree with you on the ewar but not the rest. Why? Well for one, everyone a while back(4ish months ago) wanted knock knives this good, and they haven't been better. The min scout owns that bonus. It's an assassin for crying out loud. I guess you could say people are abusing them by stacking damage mods and Kincats but hey, you hav the option to do so. So leave knives alone. Secondly, MINMATAR as a whole have hacking benefits. The min scout also serves as the main hacker suit because of this. It's in the descriptions anyways. I feel they are good the way they are as they give up ewar and go for hacking and killing. So I disagr with you. I do agree with the ear tho. CCP GIVE Back OUR EWAR. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1664	Posted - 2015.01.30 23:05:00 - [13] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: I agree with you on the ewar but not the rest. Why? Well for one, everyone a while back(4ish months ago) wanted knock knives this good, and they haven't been better. The min scout owns that bonus. It's an assassin for crying out loud. I guess you could say people are abusing them by stacking damage mods and Kincats but hey, you hav the option to do so. So leave knives alone. Secondly, MINMATAR as a whole have hacking benefits. The min scout also serves as the main hacker suit because of this. It's in the descriptions anyways. I feel they are good the way they are as they give up ewar and go for hacking and killing. So I disagr with you. Damn right it's good And the reason I am posting is because the others are left behind. Min Scout is the most versatile, and has great bonuses ... Where the others.. are not so great (EWAR) The range buff to NK's has made them near as dangerous as a Shotgun, easily And Knives have way better hit detection so that's always a bonus .. I'd like to see more from the Scout frames, too many stats are over-looked, Like the Bonus to Cloak Reduction, when only 2 Scouts can use it to it's full potential Or the EWAR modules and bonuses meaning little to the suits specialized there
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6244	Posted - 2015.01.31 01:26:00 - [14] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Min Scout is the most versatile This statement is especially incorrect. The GalScout is the most versatile Scout. The moment your enemy fields a GA Logi + 28dB scanner, the MinScout's universe of feasible builds is reduced by significant degree. I Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7537	Posted - 2015.01.31 01:55:00 - [15] - Quote You are right that the Amarr scout is left behind, but I don't see why we need to nerf a suit that is not over performing according to the overall usage numbers I am hearing. I would rather think of ways to bring it up to snuff rather than to bring the Minjas down. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1421	Posted - 2015.01.31 02:25:00 - [16] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: You are right that the Amarr scout is left behind, but I don't see why we need to nerf a suit that is not over performing according to the overall usage numbers I am hearing. I would rather think of ways to bring it up to snuff rather than to bring the Minjas down. The OP tends to post that things are OP. Which is funny but not constructive. Your suggestion is a much better path. Ganking is the heart of CCP, maybe that is why he focuses on a Nerf Hammer. I quit playing Dust on the ground because my MinLogi got ganked by CCP. The entire set of reasons I chose the line of suits disappeared, as did I after they lied about it not being set in stone. Then it came out Exactly as leaked. While the MinScout got the hacking benefit I have no fondness for Scout player styles. I am Logi at my core, even in another MMO I play engineer and medic more often than any another role. Good points and keeps the squad on task (although that game the revive removes the death). My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3975	Posted - 2015.01.31 02:53:00 - [17] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: w - Am Scout = ehhmmm, I like the suit, but has nothing the Gal can't do better (18db scans is not low enough) The relative mediocrity of the Amarr Scout bothers me more. I kept hoping they'd adjust the move speed on all the scouts or something. Dren&Templar Tragedy.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 828	Posted - 2015.01.31 04:15:00 - [18] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: This statement is especially incorrect. The GalScout is the most versatile Scout. The moment your enemy fields a GA Logi + 28dB scanner, the MinScout's universe of feasible builds is pigeon-holed into only a handful of options. Of all Scouts, the Minmatar is the easiest to counter and the least versatile. Minmatar Scout has all the stats, that's what makes it versatile. In the grand scheme of things and the current state of E-war, there is no reason that the min scout isn't good. Shield tank=isn't instakilled by hmg heavies(the most abundant thing on the field) Knife bonus=ohk weapon always in back pocket. Best Base Stats of All Scouts=Doesn't have to worry about speed or stamina mods. Hacking Skill=Can carry a skirm by speed hacking all the objectives. Shield regen and delays=Doesn't have to wait more than 10 seconds to have full shields returned to their suits Balanced slot layout=this coupled together with the stats of the min scout allows it to be very versatile. There is also no solid proof that the gal scout is any more versatile than any of the other scout suits. Care to add some proof so I can debunk it with facts? The scout doesn't need a nerf, but the min scout isn't a terrible suit anymore either, it's instrumental in winning PCs. Any properly dampened scout can avoid all scans, and it's not the only one that is held back because of active scans. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk #We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 142	Posted - 2015.01.31 04:51:00 - [19] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: TheD1CK wrote: The Min Scout is over-performing. And becoming FoTm FoTM tends to hang out in the Top 3: http://dust.thang.dk/market_tryhardinator.php It also tends to pack more than 400 HP. Amarr assault is falling in favor..... gooooood Director / Slayer / Emperor
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6247	Posted - 2015.01.31 05:15:00 - [20] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: The scout doesn't need a nerf, but the min scout isn't a terrible suit anymore either ^ This much is true. And if we agree on the bottom line, it'd be a futile exercise to nitpick at one another's opinions. The MN Scout is performing on par with the GA and GA Scout. The AM Scout is behind these three. There is no sound reason to nerf the MN Scout. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1670	Posted - 2015.01.31 10:44:00 - [21] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: The scout doesn't need a nerf, but the min scout isn't a terrible suit anymore either ^ This much is true. And if we agree on the bottom line, it'd be a futile exercise to nitpick at one another's opinions. The MN Scout is performing on par with the GA and GA Scout. The AM Scout is behind these three. There is no sound reason to nerf the MN Scout. The main issue is knife range (I run Min Scout 75% of the time) When you combine that with the fastest suit, it's nasty GA is no longer as versatile I find, bar PG you suffer on fitting the right gear CA has a few options, but has to pick one each time (not very versatile) Am has a couple of OK fits (They do not make use of the bonus though, as those fits suck) The Scout as a role does not need a nerf, especially if the Minja is now on par But regardless, the balance with scouts has been flipped, I do not find that balance That is just sticky tape fixes, leaving the Scouts in need of some re-work
Haerr Nos Nothi 2237	Posted - 2015.01.31 11:03:00 - [22] - Quote Not sure how long ccp needs to collect stats to evaluate the scanning changes but I am guessing 1~2 patches/hotfixes since they were implemented, then maybe they will tweak them again. I mean I like the changes, but then again I am 'slightly' biased in favour of them, so I am not all too bothered about the choice between scout suit feeling a bit bland. NKs feels too easy to hit with, that said not too easy to use. Maybe tone down the hit range and ?angle? just slightly, I mean I can actually hit things with them while using a mouse without struggling. I still find that the Scouts inherent scanning stats are quite powerful while CQCing, especially the cal scouts. (2cRA+1cPE makes it more than just okish) Regarding the Amarr scout, I saw a thread on hp vs movement speed and sprint speed which made me thinking that the hp difference between Scout suits does not exactly line up with the penalty (or increase) on movement speed. Perhaps that would be a good place to start looking for a buff to the Amarr scout?
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1986	Posted - 2015.01.31 11:34:00 - [23] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: - NK range buff (2m is too much, they are daggers you swipe with) A 2m lunge is not how they are used, when knifing you look like a damn T-Rex, how can that be 2m? I totally agree that 2m for a knife is way too much. Specially one that can 1 hit kill most suits in the game.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1671	Posted - 2015.01.31 11:40:00 - [24] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: TheD1CK wrote: - NK range buff (2m is too much, they are daggers you swipe with) A 2m lunge is not how they are used, when knifing you look like a damn T-Rex, how can that be 2m? I totally agree that 2m for a knife is way too much. Specially one that can 1 hit kill most suits in the game. This ^^ IMO was fully acceptable with shorter range, as it is damn risky getting in CQC with Knives There are several stats CCP could edit - Charge time - Range - Angle - Aim-Adhesion That would leave Knife Scouts in a much more balanced form. The knives need to be deadly But deadly, and the range of a sword? don't get me wrong it's fun But I am a fan of Risk V Reward, they have killed some of the Risk via NK buff
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1987	Posted - 2015.01.31 11:45:00 - [25] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: deezy dabest wrote: TheD1CK wrote: - NK range buff (2m is too much, they are daggers you swipe with) A 2m lunge is not how they are used, when knifing you look like a damn T-Rex, how can that be 2m? I totally agree that 2m for a knife is way too much. Specially one that can 1 hit kill most suits in the game. This ^^ IMO was fully acceptable with shorter range, as it is damn risky getting in CQC with Knives There are several stats CCP could edit - Charge time - Range - Angle - Aim-Adhesion That would leave Knife Scouts in a much more balanced form. The knives need to be deadly But deadly, and the range of a sword? don't get me wrong it's fun But I am a fan of Risk V Reward, they have killed some of the Risk via NK buff I have not run knives so I can not speak on it from this side. From what I have seen in videos and talked with players on I feel like aim adhesion + (damage OR range) would be the best route. How much rage would there be if the shotgun had aim adhesion? This is pretty much what the NKs have become since the shotgun really only does maximum damage at 3-4m anyway.
Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1360	Posted - 2015.01.31 12:59:00 - [26] - Quote As long as backpedal speed is as fast as it is now, the knife range has to remain the way it is. It still is easy enough to miss with knives and when the target starts backpedaling and shooting at you you will die very quickly. The skill of countering a min scout is to not let it get close enough and check your surroundings regularly (as is the case for countering most scouts). A shorter knife range won't make it easier to survive a min scout's attack, it will just make playing min scout more frustrating because of barely missing a hit even though the target is right in front of you but just not right in front of you enough. A range of 2m sounds a lot on paper. But in reality 2m in Dust aren't neccessarily the equivalent to 2m in real life. Some even have the theory that Dust meters really are more like yards (~0.91m). Then also the range certainly is not measured from your fist to the tip of the knife but more like center of minja body to edges of targets hitbox. So, in summary, ~1.8m from the center of a minjas body to the targets hitbox doesn't sound like it is way too much. That range certainly is unrealistic, but then again this is just a game and we also have to factor in stuff like limitations of controller input, balancing, network related issues, and hitdetection. In conclusion as long as knives aren't clearly overperforming, proven by data, I don't think it is justified to make any changes. And so far I don't see knives overperforming. They are clearly more common than they used to be and that alone might give the impression of overperforming even though it is not neccessarily true. Jebus still hates scans.
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 229	Posted - 2015.01.31 13:19:00 - [27] - Quote My amar scout disagrees with you Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1673	Posted - 2015.01.31 13:21:00 - [28] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: My amar scout disagrees with you Your Amarr Scout stays in you merc quarters Sure it can be used, so can MLT gear ... in terms of competing .. it falls short.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6261	Posted - 2015.01.31 15:00:00 - [29] - Quote Blue flare was a regular occurrence with knives before the range extension. We increased NK range for a reason, and it should remain as is until we've good reason to change it. Per Rattati, NK performance has slumped (not improved) since Falloff. Nova Knives are in fact UP, not OP, and we don't nerf what isn't OP. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Finn Colman Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 133	Posted - 2015.01.31 15:06:00 - [30] - Quote What I'm seeing here is that people are looking at the wrong issue. What is the point in making all of the scouts on the same weak playing field, when you can just bring the rest up to par with the best? The main problem here appears to be the E-war capabilities of the other scouts just not being as good as they should be. PSA: Tell players to terminate in order to access mCRUs.



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