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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7209	Posted - 2015.01.25 03:29:00 - [1] - Quote Please CCP Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4520	Posted - 2015.01.25 04:22:00 - [2] - Quote I'm kind of curious, modern military doesn't use anything beyond a knife or even a short bayonet (which is typically just a knife). Why would a futuristic military use them? Why would the disadvantages of large blades be overcome and why would someone in the future want to use a sword? A knife is understandable, its small, non-cumbersome, and quiet, but swords are big, bulky, and hard to use in confined quarters where you would want to actually have a melee weapon. So why would someone use this? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7209	Posted - 2015.01.25 04:40:00 - [3] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm kind of curious, modern military doesn't use anything beyond a knife or even a short bayonet (which is typically just a knife). Why would a futuristic military use them? Swords aren't used anymore because people get killed at range before they can use them. In Dust people take a lot of punishment before succumbing to the opposition. Right now the U.S.A is closing in on exoskeleton technology with testing going on the last few years in special forces. In a few decades we will most likely see highly armored personnel who will be almost invulnerable to modern small arms. If one day two armies meet and both are using exoskeletons with the same level of protection then they may not be able to fight each other with firearms. In the time it takes to create sufficiently powerful firearms, armies may come to rely heavily on melee weapons if for a short time. Even when firearms catch up melee weapons will most likely continue to fulfill a role in CQC. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4520	Posted - 2015.01.25 05:04:00 - [4] - Quote You misunderstand. Why would someone use a sword over a knife? Its bulkier, less useful in CQC than a knife. If its not in CQC, it would be better to use a gun as you pointed out. I just don't see the point other than "it would be cool because space katanas" in which case I go play Warframe because...ninjas. And no we wouldn't be forced to use melee weapons because we already have guns in Dust that get the job done. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7210	Posted - 2015.01.25 05:14:00 - [5] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: You misunderstand. Why would someone use a sword over a knife? Its bulkier, less useful in CQC than a knife. If its not in CQC, it would be better to use a gun as you pointed out. I just don't see the point other than "it would be cool because space katanas" in which case I go play Warframe because...ninjas. And no we wouldn't be forced to use melee weapons because we already have guns in Dust that get the job done. Swords have more range than Knives. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4521	Posted - 2015.01.25 05:36:00 - [6] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You misunderstand. Why would someone use a sword over a knife? Its bulkier, less useful in CQC than a knife. If its not in CQC, it would be better to use a gun as you pointed out. I just don't see the point other than "it would be cool because space katanas" in which case I go play Warframe because...ninjas. And no we wouldn't be forced to use melee weapons because we already have guns in Dust that get the job done. Swords have more range than Knives. But if you want more range...why not use a gun? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7211	Posted - 2015.01.25 05:56:00 - [7] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You misunderstand. Why would someone use a sword over a knife? Its bulkier, less useful in CQC than a knife. If its not in CQC, it would be better to use a gun as you pointed out. I just don't see the point other than "it would be cool because space katanas" in which case I go play Warframe because...ninjas. And no we wouldn't be forced to use melee weapons because we already have guns in Dust that get the job done. Swords have more range than Knives. But if you want more range...why not use a gun? You don't need to reload a sword. You will seldom kill a target with one round in CQC, but are very likely to down an opponent with one strike from a large blade. In Dust where you can fight within 15 meters, unload 70 rounds and still not kill an opponent having a meter long blade can come in handie. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4521	Posted - 2015.01.25 05:57:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You misunderstand. Why would someone use a sword over a knife? Its bulkier, less useful in CQC than a knife. If its not in CQC, it would be better to use a gun as you pointed out. I just don't see the point other than "it would be cool because space katanas" in which case I go play Warframe because...ninjas. And no we wouldn't be forced to use melee weapons because we already have guns in Dust that get the job done. Swords have more range than Knives. But if you want more range...why not use a gun? You don't need to reload a sword. You will seldom kill a target with one round in CQC, but are very likely to down an opponent with one strike from a large blade. In Dust where you can fight within 15 meters, unload 70 rounds and still not kill an opponent having a meter long blade can come in handie. Except the knife has like....2.5 m range as it is? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7211	Posted - 2015.01.25 05:59:00 - [9] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Except the knife has like....2.5 m range as it is? While being about 15 inches big themselves. A Nova Sword would have almost 5m of range (compensating for dashing just like the Nova Knives extended range). Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4521	Posted - 2015.01.25 06:13:00 - [10] - Quote So why would you ever use a knife then? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7211	Posted - 2015.01.25 06:43:00 - [11] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: So why would you ever use a knife then? As a sidearm. The Nova Sword would be a light weapon. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4521	Posted - 2015.01.25 07:27:00 - [12] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: So why would you ever use a knife then? As a sidearm. The Nova Sword would be a light weapon. That's even less of a reason to use a sword since you could put a knife in your light weapon slot but you cant put a sword in a sidearm slot. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Delenne Arran Ivory Hounds 61	Posted - 2015.01.25 07:45:00 - [13] - Quote There's really just nowhere it would make sense to have, other than "it looks cool." At 0-5 meter range, we already have Nova Knives. At 5-15 meters, we already have shotguns. At 15+, we have... everything else. They'd serve no purpose as a sidearm, except possibly being a racial variant to Nova Knives, with some sort of huge drawback so they didn't just replace them entirely. They'd serve no purpose as light weapons, since... why not just use a shotgun at that range? They'd serve no purpose as a heavy weapon, because... come on.
Leovarian L Lavitz KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1349	Posted - 2015.01.25 07:47:00 - [14] - Quote Minmatar would, with an smg as a side-arm. a 5-meter ohk weapon on a fast, sturdy suit would be totally op. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 21224	Posted - 2015.01.25 12:07:00 - [15] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Right now the U.S.A is closing in on exoskeleton technology with testing going on the last few years in special forces. In a few decades we will most likely see highly armored personnel who will be almost invulnerable to modern small arms. If one day two armies meet and both are using exoskeletons with the same level of protection then they may not be able to fight each other with firearms. In the time it takes to create sufficiently powerful firearms, armies may come to rely heavily on melee weapons if for a short time. Even when firearms catch up melee weapons will most likely continue to fulfill a role in CQC. No form of armour equippable by humans will be impervious to small arms fire. In the highly unlikely case that it is (and a great deal we know about physics and chemistry is promptly turned upside down), it is highly unlikely that a sword will punch through. *Vote 'Keshava' for a new Gallente vehicle name!* Gallente Guide to DUST
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 949	Posted - 2015.01.25 15:08:00 - [16] - Quote Some people just don't understand. Don't be a sword hater That's just lame Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7231	Posted - 2015.01.25 15:12:00 - [17] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Right now the U.S.A is closing in on exoskeleton technology with testing going on the last few years in special forces. In a few decades we will most likely see highly armored personnel who will be almost invulnerable to modern small arms. If one day two armies meet and both are using exoskeletons with the same level of protection then they may not be able to fight each other with firearms. In the time it takes to create sufficiently powerful firearms, armies may come to rely heavily on melee weapons if for a short time. Even when firearms catch up melee weapons will most likely continue to fulfill a role in CQC. No form of armour equippable by humans will be impervious to small arms fire. In the highly unlikely case that it is (and a great deal we know about physics and chemistry is promptly turned upside down), it is highly unlikely that a sword will punch through. Very true, I would imagine something more like a loaded spear. It would most likely need a cartridge to have the spear point be launched forward and would then be forcefully inserted through the oponents armor. The spear point would always remain attached to the spear and would only move forward. Though if exoskeletons were powerful enough and the spear points sharp enough then it is possible that no cartridge would be needed and instead only the power of the exoskeleton would be necessary to break through another person's armor. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Insidious Bane Ametat Security Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2015.01.25 15:14:00 - [18] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Please CCP I fully support Aztec and this Sword Another reason I won't get Bored
Khulmach Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 122	Posted - 2015.01.25 15:39:00 - [19] - Quote support Darkness,Evil,Hatred,Even Fear My Ally While The Light Taughts,Mocks,and Burns Me.I Have No Side But The Side I Choose.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 795	Posted - 2015.01.25 19:58:00 - [20] - Quote Gameplay > Realism. Dune justified knives because personal shields became too effective at repelling firearms. Dust could justify it similarly, maybe melee weapons become extra effective against both shields and armor. I want cool melee weapons which are viable. However, this is still a futuristic warfare game, so even though It'd be great to see a few people run around with melee weapons, I'd like them to be hard enough to use that they remain a very small niche of specialized players using them regularly. Also, designing a suit especially for melee would be necessary to use melee really effectively. They'd be more for style than anything. Also, having a BLOCK feature with L1 would be an awesome feature for sword duels Who cares what some sniper has to say

Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 795	Posted - 2015.01.25 20:05:00 - [21] - Quote Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but assuming we get full racial light and sidearm melee weapons (swords and knives), then there are a few key aspects of melee fighting we need. - Regular attacks - Power attacks - Block - Perry: Perfectly timed block causing enemy to stumble back. This would make sword duels pretty fun. Also, each race and suit type would behave differently. Scouts: fast weak attacks, heavies: slow powerful attacks etc. This would also finally be a very good use for stamina. The more I think of this, the more I want it! Who cares what some sniper has to say
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 957	Posted - 2015.01.25 20:13:00 - [22] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but assuming we get full racial light and sidearm melee weapons (swords and knives), then there are a few key aspects of melee fighting we need. - Regular attacks - Power attacks - Block - Perry: Perfectly timed block causing enemy to stumble back. This would make sword duels pretty fun. Also, each race and suit type would behave differently. Scouts: fast weak attacks, heavies: slow powerful attacks etc. This would also finally be a very good use for stamina. The more I think of this, the more I want it! You should reply on my thread,your idea makes perfect sense is ingenious.Heavy-Slow,Hard Scout-Fast,Weak Assault-Medium speed,Medium attack power I can see more assault and,Heavies(Min Heavy) use this. Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7232	Posted - 2015.01.25 20:52:00 - [23] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but assuming we get full racial light and sidearm melee weapons (swords and knives), then there are a few key aspects of melee fighting we need. - Regular attacks - Power attacks - Block - Perry: Perfectly timed block causing enemy to stumble back. This would make sword duels pretty fun. Also, each race and suit type would behave differently. Scouts: fast weak attacks, heavies: slow powerful attacks etc. This would also finally be a very good use for stamina. The more I think of this, the more I want it! Duels? No. I think it should continue to be who ever happens to get struck gets struck. You both see each other and try to feint until one of you messes up and gets hit. I don't think CCP needs to put any complicated mechanics in. Racial Nova Knives. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 957	Posted - 2015.01.25 21:02:00 - [24] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but assuming we get full racial light and sidearm melee weapons (swords and knives), then there are a few key aspects of melee fighting we need. - Regular attacks - Power attacks - Block - Perry: Perfectly timed block causing enemy to stumble back. This would make sword duels pretty fun. Also, each race and suit type would behave differently. Scouts: fast weak attacks, heavies: slow powerful attacks etc. This would also finally be a very good use for stamina. The more I think of this, the more I want it! Duels? No. I think it should continue to be who ever happens to get struck gets struck. You both see each other and try to feint until one of you messes up and gets hit. I don't think CCP needs to put any complicated mechanics in. Racial Nova Knives. Nice Amarr knives Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4546	Posted - 2015.01.25 21:42:00 - [25] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but assuming we get full racial light and sidearm melee weapons (swords and knives), then there are a few key aspects of melee fighting we need. - Regular attacks - Power attacks - Block - Perry: Perfectly timed block causing enemy to stumble back. This would make sword duels pretty fun. Also, each race and suit type would behave differently. Scouts: fast weak attacks, heavies: slow powerful attacks etc. This would also finally be a very good use for stamina. The more I think of this, the more I want it! And this is how it would work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16803	Posted - 2015.01.25 21:50:00 - [26] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but assuming we get full racial light and sidearm melee weapons (swords and knives), then there are a few key aspects of melee fighting we need. - Regular attacks - Power attacks - Block - Perry: Perfectly timed block causing enemy to stumble back. This would make sword duels pretty fun. Also, each race and suit type would behave differently. Scouts: fast weak attacks, heavies: slow powerful attacks etc. This would also finally be a very good use for stamina. The more I think of this, the more I want it! And this is how it would work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE I can see it now. Caldari Scout thinking to himself how he is hot **** rolling around invisible with a sword. BAM! Insta gibbed by an ScR. goes to forums and cries than no one is letting him get into sword range...... "He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4547	Posted - 2015.01.25 21:52:00 - [27] - Quote Like honestly go check out Warframe, it has all the tactical sword space ninja exo power super suit action you could ask for. Plus you can cut ** in half. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 957	Posted - 2015.01.25 21:58:00 - [28] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but assuming we get full racial light and sidearm melee weapons (swords and knives), then there are a few key aspects of melee fighting we need. - Regular attacks - Power attacks - Block - Perry: Perfectly timed block causing enemy to stumble back. This would make sword duels pretty fun. Also, each race and suit type would behave differently. Scouts: fast weak attacks, heavies: slow powerful attacks etc. This would also finally be a very good use for stamina. The more I think of this, the more I want it! And this is how it would work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE Very funny.... Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 957	Posted - 2015.01.25 22:00:00 - [29] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Like honestly go check out Warframe, it has all the tactical sword space ninja exo power super suit action you could ask for. Plus you can cut **** in half. Played it,was fun but got bored because the game sucked to me. Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4548	Posted - 2015.01.25 22:17:00 - [30] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Like honestly go check out Warframe, it has all the tactical sword space ninja exo power super suit action you could ask for. Plus you can cut ** in half. Played it,was fun but got bored because the game sucked to me. Being Indiana Jones'd probably will suck too "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net

Amuf Oratok Dead Man's Game RUST415 62	Posted - 2015.01.25 22:25:00 - [31] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I dont see why anyone would give up a primary weapon to get an extra meter or two of melee range, especially if it has to be charged. I'd do it.
Insidious Bane Ametat Security Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2015.01.25 22:26:00 - [32] - Quote Amuf Oratok wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I dont see why anyone would give up a primary weapon to get an extra meter or two of melee range, especially if it has to be charged. I'd do it. Same I'd do it for this game. Arise from the deptless Hell I summon a merc I know to Well A merc who be a master of Pain I call on you,Insidious Bane
Khulmach Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 124	Posted - 2015.01.25 22:27:00 - [33] - Quote Insidious Bane wrote: Amuf Oratok wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I dont see why anyone would give up a primary weapon to get an extra meter or two of melee range, especially if it has to be charged. I'd do it. Same I'd do it for this game. Same here. Darkness,Evil,Hatred,Even Fear My Ally While The Light Taughts,Mocks,and Burns Me.I Have No Side But The Side I Choose.
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 960	Posted - 2015.01.25 22:28:00 - [34] - Quote Khulmach wrote: Insidious Bane wrote: Amuf Oratok wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I dont see why anyone would give up a primary weapon to get an extra meter or two of melee range, especially if it has to be charged. I'd do it. Same I'd do it for this game. Same here. As would I. Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4550	Posted - 2015.01.25 22:35:00 - [35] - Quote Well have fun with that, I'll just use a shotgun "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
TritusX PH4NT0M5 161	Posted - 2015.01.25 22:42:00 - [36] - Quote Sword would be neat. For all you wimps with shotguns and don't want to get close to the enemy, this is for you! Maybe it could be a sidearm which like nova knives slashes and kills, but with more range, it does less damage. Knives I imagine are charged up and stabbed hard wherever in the enemy. Swords slash and cut enemies open. Maybe we could have damage over time. lol seriously though, there aren't many uses for a sword, as there aren't many uses for the knife either. Believe in RUST Don't hate the DUST lol
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3639	Posted - 2015.01.25 23:02:00 - [37] - Quote It already exists they just called it a knife. The nova knife has 2m range that's 6feet even if that accounts for your arm length that's still like 4feet of the weapon now tell me that's not a sword. Fatal Absolution Director Shield tanking is hard mode /period. Proud FA.G http://imgur.com/VwYJUI3
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7235	Posted - 2015.01.25 23:04:00 - [38] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: It already exists they just called it a knife. The nova knife has 2m range that's 6feet even if that accounts for your arm length that's still like 4feet of the weapon now tell me that's not a sword. It's not a sword. First, you get two of them. Second, you only have extra range because you can't run and charge. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 961	Posted - 2015.01.25 23:18:00 - [39] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: It already exists they just called it a knife. The nova knife has 2m range that's 6feet even if that accounts for your arm length that's still like 4feet of the weapon now tell me that's not a sword. It's not a sword. First, you get two of them. Second, you only have extra range because you can't run and charge. Third this games doesn't know what meters is I always think of Meters here as feet. Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7237	Posted - 2015.01.25 23:26:00 - [40] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: It already exists they just called it a knife. The nova knife has 2m range that's 6feet even if that accounts for your arm length that's still like 4feet of the weapon now tell me that's not a sword. It's not a sword. First, you get two of them. Second, you only have extra range because you can't run and charge. Third this games doesn't know what meters is I always think of Meters here as feet. They are probably less than that. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.

Khulmach Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 128	Posted - 2015.01.25 23:29:00 - [41] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: It already exists they just called it a knife. The nova knife has 2m range that's 6feet even if that accounts for your arm length that's still like 4feet of the weapon now tell me that's not a sword. It's not a sword. First, you get two of them. Second, you only have extra range because you can't run and charge. Third this games doesn't know what meters is I always think of Meters here as feet. They are probably less than that. Right about that. Darkness,Evil,Hatred,Even Fear My Ally While The Light Taughts,Mocks,and Burns Me.I Have No Side But The Side I Choose.
Kaeru Nayiri Ready to Play 425	Posted - 2015.01.25 23:41:00 - [42] - Quote I'm a Nova Knife specialist and I do not want this. There is a fine line between something that is really great because of what people accomplish with it versus something that is great by design and is just fluff in practice. Nova Knives are great because at a glance they are unimpressive. They are the proverbial knife you don't bring to the gun fight. When you see people accomplish work with Nova Knives it can be impressive. Nova Sword: something made just to look cool, would just be mass used by new players for esthetics and would ultimately be seen as a joke. And anything with the power of Nova Knives + more range would be overpowered and you'd see it everywhere. Is that really what we want in Dust? Half the team running around with lightsabers? No one is the hero in this game, everyone is a mercenary.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7237	Posted - 2015.01.25 23:52:00 - [43] - Quote Kaeru Nayiri wrote: I'm a Nova Knife specialist and I do not want this. There is a fine line between something that is really great because of what people accomplish with it versus something that is great by design and is just fluff in practice. Nova Knives are great because at a glance they are unimpressive. They are the proverbial knife you don't bring to the gun fight. When you see people accomplish work with Nova Knives it can be impressive. Nova Sword: something made just to look cool, would just be mass used by new players for esthetics and would ultimately be seen as a joke. And anything with the power of Nova Knives + more range would be overpowered and you'd see it everywhere. Is that really what we want in Dust? Half the team running around with lightsabers? No one is the hero in this game, everyone is a mercenary. I'm not a Nova Knife specialist. I currently use Nova Knives as a secondary on my Gallante Assault. I don't think it would be a joke I think it would actually be quite useful. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 965	Posted - 2015.01.26 00:49:00 - [44] - Quote Joke,snicker Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
Insidious Bane Ametat Security Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2015.01.26 12:08:00 - [45] - Quote Only the skilled can Thrive With Knives But with a Sword I am sure any can manage a Horde (Dot,Not) Arise from the deptless Hell I summon a merc I know to Well A merc who be a master of Pain I call on you,Insidious Bane
Khulmach Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 131	Posted - 2015.01.26 16:43:00 - [46] - Quote Insidious Bane wrote: Only the skilled can Thrive With Knives But with a Sword I am sure any can manage a Horde (Dot,Not) Your right about that,it should also require skill to use a sword as Nova Knives. Darkness,Evil,Hatred,Even Fear My Ally While The Light Taughts,Mocks,and Burns Me.I Have No Side But The Side I Choose.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 669	Posted - 2015.01.26 18:01:00 - [47] - Quote How would the sword differ from the knives, to make it enough of an improvement over the knives to be worth the sacrifice of a light weapon slot, but not by so much as to make it over powered? Without nerfing the nova knives, I'm not seeing how this could be viable, the knives can already one shot most suits. Are we suggesting more range + more damage, giving the option of adding more hp modules or having enough damage modules to down a sentinel without a charge, isn't going to backfire somehow? Also with more range, we're getting into the area of making the shotgun pretty useless. Though I would be amused to have a sword instead of a shogun on my commando, it would have to be better than a knife somehow.
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 971	Posted - 2015.01.26 19:58:00 - [48] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: How would the sword differ from the knives, to make it enough of an improvement over the knives to be worth the sacrifice of a light weapon slot, but not by so much as to make it over powered? Without nerfing the nova knives, I'm not seeing how this could be viable, the knives can already one shot most suits. Are we suggesting more range + more damage, giving the option of adding more hp modules or having enough damage modules to down a sentinel without a charge, isn't going to backfire somehow? Also with more range, we're getting into the area of making the shotgun pretty useless. Though I would be amused to have a sword instead of a shogun on my commando, it would have to be better than a knife somehow. Think of it like this Which would you rather see coming to kill you? A shotgun Scout/Assault/Heavy(Hate them so much) Or a sword wielding Scout/Assault/Heavy The sword I would pick. I also think the sword shouldn't have a charge,you just swing it and it does 460 damage a swing Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 672	Posted - 2015.01.26 21:14:00 - [49] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: How would the sword differ from the knives, to make it enough of an improvement over the knives to be worth the sacrifice of a light weapon slot, but not by so much as to make it over powered? Without nerfing the nova knives, I'm not seeing how this could be viable, the knives can already one shot most suits. Are we suggesting more range + more damage, giving the option of adding more hp modules or having enough damage modules to down a sentinel without a charge, isn't going to backfire somehow? Also with more range, we're getting into the area of making the shotgun pretty useless. Though I would be amused to have a sword instead of a shogun on my commando, it would have to be better than a knife somehow. Think of it like this Which would you rather see coming to kill you? A shotgun Scout/Assault/Heavy(Hate them so much) Or a sword wielding Scout/Assault/Heavy The sword I would pick. I also think the sword shouldn't have a charge,you just swing it and it does 460 damage a swing What I'd prefer them to have will mostly be based on how balanced the weapons are. The graphics are far from impressive and never really make me go 'mmm look at that pretty gun he's shooting at me with.'
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 972	Posted - 2015.01.26 21:37:00 - [50] - Quote Funny Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.



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