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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:05:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:As well as 6 to 7 bursts a second with the combat rifle, my favorite gun, I can easily become one of the reasons the scrambler rifles deserves to be nerfed
Alright. You activated my trap card.
6-7 shots per second is excruciatingly average. I was being subtly sarcastic. You ain't special. Come back and gloat when you are firing 8-8.5 like myself and a few others do while relaxed.
6-7 shots per second ends up being about 464.75 DPS on the ScR. That's a Viziam. That's barely more DPS than a Duvolle AR. Like 11.41 more DPS. A tiny amount.
Which is why I never bought the whole "ScR DPS is OP" bullshit you whiners always bring up.
Also, I'd just like to point out that the CR firing at 6-7 bursts per second has more DPS than a ScR... Yet another reason why the ScR isn't OP.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:10:00 -
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Oh. And just so you know, the CR is capped at 6.25 bursts per second. So you aren't firing it at 7 burst per second.
What do you know? I just proved you a liar as well!
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:13:00 -
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It is capped now, I said before that got nerfed, i just proved you a scrub
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:15:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:It is capped now, I said before that got nerfed, i just proved you a scrub
It has always had the same cap and fire rate.
Those have never been touched.
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:15:00 -
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Anyway you just proved my point you idiot, at an average of 6-7 shots a second the scrambler is OP, thank you for your time :)
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:18:00 -
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The RPM of the standard combat rifle was increased by 100 at around the same time the ACR had its RPM decreased or do you not remember that? So yes it was touched
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:19:00 -
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We'll more they touched the DPS more than anything to be quite frank
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:22:00 -
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Oh and by the way at 6.25 that means there are some seconds where 7 shots can be produced if consistent fire is maintained, do the math
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:25:00 -
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An also let me continue, t your first shot fired is the start of the timer meaning it is 0.00 seconds then add the 6.25 ( 6 bursts ) and you get 7 bursts within a second
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:50:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:An also let me continue, your first shot fired is the start of the timer meaning it is 0.00 seconds then add the 6.25 ( 6 bursts ) and you get 7 bursts within a second
Do you not understand math?
That isn't how it works.
-The 1st burst starts a 0.0, and ends at 0.10(which is the exact moment the last bullet in the first burst is fired) there is then a 0.06 second delay-
-The 2nd burst starts a 0.16, and ends at 0.26, there is then a 0.06 second delay-
-The 3rd burst starts a 0.32, and ends at 0.42, there is then a 0.06 second delay-
-The 4th burst starts a 0.48, and ends at 0.58, there is then a 0.06 second delay-
-The 5th burst starts a 0.64, and ends at 0.74, there is then a 0.06 second delay-
-The 6th burst starts a 0.80, and ends at 0.90, there is then a 0.06 second delay-
-There is then 0.4 seconds left in the second. This is enough time for -+ of on burst, which ends up being 1 bullet, to be fired.-
That's 6.25, bruh.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:52:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:The RPM of the standard combat rifle was increased by 100 at around the same time the ACR had its RPM decreased or do you not remember that? So yes it was touched
They have both always had 1200 RoF since they were introduces in 1.7
The burst delays nor the RoF have ever been touched.
The only modifications that have happened to the CR and ACR since their release has been the Projectile Damage Profile change.
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:55:00 -
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It fires a 3 round burst, not a four round burst genius, there is no 1/4 of a burst, your math is off, lol
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:56:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Anyway you just proved my point you idiot, at an average of 6-7 shots a second the scrambler is OP, thank you for your time :)
How so? How is 464 DPS OP?
If that's OP, then we better take a serious loom at the CR, since it can easily achieve 577.5 DPS.
Be better Nerf its damage down to about... 21.25. That would put it on par with the AR in terms of actual DPS.
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:57:00 -
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Try better, you don't even know the first thing about a combat rifle
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:01:00 -
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Base damage of the AR is 30.90 HP, you're wrong again on your numbers
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:02:00 -
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So you just called less DPS than an AR ok for the combat rifle, funny
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:03:00 -
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As I said please use logic since your math keeps being off
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:04:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:It fires a 3 round burst, not a four round burst genius, there is no 1/4 of a burst, your math is off, lol
Not only am I questioning your math abilities now, but your very grasp on reality. I wrote it down for you plain as day, but you still don't understand?!
0.04 seconds is enough time for the first bullet of the 7th burst to fire, but the second is cut short before the 2nd bullet is fired.
0.04 seconds is also -+ of the length of an entire burst length, whivpch is 0.16s, delay included.
-+=0.25
6 bursts + -+ of the 7th burst(which ends up being Gàô of the bullets, but since this is a calculation that is counting TIME, and not bullets(hence the whole damage per second bit) it is to be counted a -+ of the burst)
6 + 0.25 = 6.25
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:07:00 -
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0.04 = 4/100 = 1/25
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:08:00 -
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If you want me to explain it easier...
A CR burst takes exactly 0.16 second to complete.
Guess how many time we can fit 0.16 seconds into a whole second?
6.25 times. On the nose.
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:08:00 -
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If your math made sense I wouldn't be laughing, lol
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:09:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:0.04 = 4/100 = 1/25
Too bad the RoF is 0.05, AKA 1200.
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:15:00 -
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Yeah, first bullet, starts timer 0.00 seconds then the 20 shots, 21 bullets and bam 7 burst
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:16:00 -
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Then 2 seconds of 6 bursts and again math hits and 7 bursts on the fourth second
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:19:00 -
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Do I also need to explain to you how a burst takes 0.16 seconds?
...and I'm the one who "doesn't know the first thing about the CR"...
All right, I'll break it down nice and easy, so your peanut brain can understand.
The first bullet, which is the first of three bullets, is fired at exactly 0.000 seconds.
So far, 0.00 seconds has passed.
There is then a 0.050 second delay before the second bullet, which is the second of three total bullets, has fired.
So far 0.050 seconds had passed as the second bullet is fired.
There is then yet another 0.050 second delay before the 3 bullet, which is the final of the three bullets in a burst, fires.
So far, 0.10 seconds has passed as the third bullet of three is fired.
There is the a 0.06 second delay that behinds at the exact moment of the third bullet firing. This delay must run its course before the next burs may begin.
In total, a full burst, delay included, takes exactly 0.16 seconds to complete its course before the trigger may be pulled again.
1++0.16=6.25
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:23:00 -
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0.05 + 0.16 =0.21 which = 4.67 burst, not even 5 bursts is possible at that math
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:23:00 -
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Did I break it down and clarify enough for you to understand?
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killertojo42
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:24:00 -
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Actually sorry, misread what that .16 was
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:27:00 -
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Actually no, 0.05 a shot, .6 delay comes out to .21 a burst, yeah your math is completely wrong now that I ran through it fully a second time
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:29:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:0.05 + 0.16 =0.21 which = 4.67 burst, not even 5 bursts is possible at that math
Where did you come up with an extra 0.05 seconds?
That isn't anywhere...
0.00 1st bullet
0.05 2nd bullet
0.10 3rd bullet
0.06 delay
Total=0.16
0.00 1st bullet
0.05 2nd bullet
0.10 3rd bullet
0.06 delay
Total=0.32
0.00 1st bullet
0.05 2nd bullet
0.10 3rd bullet
0.06 delay
Total=0.48
0.00 1st bullet
0.05 2nd bullet
0.10 3rd bullet
0.06 delay
Total=0.64
0.00 1st bullet
0.05 2nd bullet
0.10 3rd bullet
0.06 delay
Total=0.80
0.00 1st bullet
0.05 2nd bullet
0.10 3rd bullet
0.06 delay
Total=0.96
0.00 1st bullet
0.04s pass uneventfully
-Second Ends-
That. Is. 6.25. Bursts.
How hard do I need to drill this into your skull goddamnit!
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