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Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1269	Posted - 2015.01.13 09:40:00 - [1] - Quote Hello everyone, I want to tell you about my friend. His in- game name is jhon hartigan, he created that character a while ago but started playing a couple of weeks ago. I'm happy to say he is really enjoing the game. Now, he decided to play as a logi because he saw the potential of farming WP of that role. I've been playing with him a lot recently, all he do is put a couple of uplinks, revive someone and repair heavies. I'm not complaing about it, he is doing his job, but it is not like he tries very hard. Now, I'm a dedicated assault. As an assault my main job is killing. I average 20+ kills per match, with a lot of matches with 30+ kills. I'm usually the one that kills the most on the killfeed. I obviously also hack points. The problem is my friend and other logis are almost always above me with their WP. Even when I have a great game, logis, without any effort can obtain more WPs than me. The other day I had a good match, finishing 45-4 and I ended third. With my friend ending third and I know he didnt do that much in that game. That made me think This isn't a great problem for me, I don't give a duck about WP and I have enough ISK and SP. But for a new player ending first or second or third can change a lot, a lot of WP means a lot of isk and a lot of SP. So the logi is better to farm those things. I'm not complaining about logis being OP, I think they're balanced. I'm just saying kills should be rewarded a little bit more, cause an assault doing his job should be rewarded as a logi doing his job. It is also strange that a great match from an assault is rewarded less than an average match from a logi. Take a look at the numbers: 30 kills:3050=1500WP half of those kills are near an objective=1215=180 WP 10 assists= 2510=250 WP 5 installation hacks=505=250 WP 3 Null Cannon hacks= 100*3=300 WP 30 kills, 10 assists, 8 hacks, I'd say this is a great match, the WPs obtained for all this are 2780. Not bad, but a logi not trying so hard can obtain those WP quite easily. I'd say every kill should give you 70 or 80 WPs to help new player that dont want to play the logi role to farm isks and SPs more easily. This is an fps after all, your ability to kill should be rewarded One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Edau Skir2 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 279	Posted - 2015.01.13 09:49:00 - [2] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Hello everyone, I want to tell you about my friend. His in- game name is jhon hartigan, he created that character a while ago but started playing a couple of weeks ago. I'm happy to say he is really enjoing the game. Now, he decided to play as a logi because he saw the potential of farming WP of that role. I've been playing with him a lot recently, all he do is put a couple of uplinks, revive someone and repair heavies. I'm not complaing about it, he is doing his job, but it is not like he tries very hard. Now, I'm a dedicated assault. As an assault my main job is killing. I average 20+ kills per match, with a lot of matches with 30+ kills. I'm usually the one that kills the most on the killfeed. I obviously also hack points. The problem is my friend and other logis are almost always above me with their WP. Even when I have a great game, logis, without any effort can obtain more WPs than me. The other day I had a good match, finishing 45-4 and I ended third. With my friend ending third and I know he didnt do that much in that game. That made me think This isn't a great problem for me, I don't give a duck about WP and I have enough ISK and SP. But for a new player ending first or second or third can change a lot, a lot of WP means a lot of isk and a lot of SP. So the logi is better to farm those things. I'm not complaining about logis being OP, I think they're balanced. I'm just saying kills should be rewarded a little bit more, cause an assault doing his job should be rewarded as a logi doing his job. It is also strange that a great match from an assault is rewarded less than an average match from a logi. Take a look at the numbers: 30 kills:3050=1500WP half of those kills are near an objective=1215=180 WP 10 assists= 2510=250 WP 5 installation hacks=505=250 WP 3 Null Cannon hacks= 100*3=300 WP 30 kills, 10 assists, 8 hacks, I'd say this is a great match, the WPs obtained for all this are 2780. Not bad, but a logi not trying so hard can obtain those WP quite easily. I'd say every kill should give you 70 or 80 WPs to help new player that dont want to play the logi role to farm isks and SPs more easily. This is an fps after all, your ability to kill should be rewarded This. I much prefer combat to Logi-ing. Probably because somehow, I suck at logi-ing! I'm a Minmando damn it, if i have a good game, I'd like the high payouts for it, not the standard 200k isk, 4k sp for getting kills, hacks and a few team spawns in. Although, maybe if the APEX suits destroyed dropped more isk it wouldn't be an issue Resident pasty smasher
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 547	Posted - 2015.01.13 11:26:00 - [3] - Quote hey OP i want to help you with your 'story' so more people will believe you and be mad. make sure you include that your friend logi only runs STD or ADV suits (keep it min though as that is more believable), as this will also upset more non-logis as that would mean there's no risk for him and he can't run uplinks and hives in addition to repper and needle or scanner.
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 65	Posted - 2015.01.13 12:01:00 - [4] - Quote I would like to be paid more for doing my role as well. Signed in agreement of OP. Thank god for CCP Rattati!! Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3592	Posted - 2015.01.13 12:04:00 - [5] - Quote It's not necessarily that you don't recieve enough WP for a kill, it's that logi's earn WP from multiple incomes, some of which are passive, let's break it down. Assault/Heavy (Offence Orientated Roles) +50 Kill +25 Assist +100 NULL Point Hack +50/25/12 NULL Point Hack Assist +50 Installation Hack +25/12 Installation Hack Assist In additio to the following for Logistics(Assuming PRO with Tool, Injector, Hives, Uplink) +25 Team Spawn +10 Resupply +25 Triage +30 Guardian +60 Team Revive The Logistics can earn WP in almost twice as many ways as the Assault, what we need are offence oriented bonuses, while everyone will still be able to earn them (like an Assault with hives can earn resupply points), these points will most often be awarded to people who play to kill, some examples below. +20/10 FOCUSED FIRE Triggers when you and a teammate kill an opponent by both firing upon him at the same time, unlike Assist you must both be firing uponnthe target when he dies, (normally this creates a race condition 1 kill, 1 Assist), the one attributed with the Assist recieves 20 and the Kill recieves 10 +15 SUPPRESION Triggers when you force an enemy to disengage a friendly by firing upon him, this will be the main stay of WP earning for long range or low damage weapons. +40 SAVIOR Triggers when you kill or suppress an enemy who was firing upon a friendly with less than 40% eHP remaining, this hughe bonus can apply to Kills, Focused Fire and Suppresion +15 AVENGER Triggers when you kill an Enemy you OBSERVED killing a friendly, additional bonuses will bs given to logis who revive the fallen teamate after an Avenger bonus has been awarded +10 SURVIVOR Triggers when you kill an Enemy you engaged starting the engagement with 50% eHP or less. +80 LAST STAND Triggers for each enemy you kill with 1 mag or less remaining in your equipped weapon, using a nanohive or switching to/from a filled weapon disables this bonus. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Edau Skir2 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 283	Posted - 2015.01.13 12:23:00 - [6] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: It's not necessarily that you don't recieve enough WP for a kill, it's that logi's earn WP from multiple incomes, some of which are passive, let's break it down. Assault/Heavy (Offence Orientated Roles) +50 Kill +25 Assist +100 NULL Point Hack +50/25/12 NULL Point Hack Assist +50 Installation Hack +25/12 Installation Hack Assist In additio to the following for Logistics(Assuming PRO with Tool, Injector, Hives, Uplink) +25 Team Spawn +10 Resupply +25 Triage +30 Guardian +60 Team Revive The Logistics can earn WP in almost twice as many ways as the Assault, what we need are offence oriented bonuses, while everyone will still be able to earn them (like an Assault with hives can earn resupply points), these points will most often be awarded to people who play to kill, some examples below. +20/10 FOCUSED FIRE Triggers when you and a teammate kill an opponent by both firing upon him at the same time, unlike Assist you must both be firing uponnthe target when he dies, (normally this creates a race condition 1 kill, 1 Assist), the one attributed with the Assist recieves 20 and the Kill recieves 10 +15 SUPPRESION Triggers when you force an enemy to disengage a friendly by firing upon him, this will be the main stay of WP earning for long range or low damage weapons. +40 SAVIOR Triggers when you kill or suppress an enemy who was firing upon a friendly with less than 40% eHP remaining, this hughe bonus can apply to Kills, Focused Fire and Suppresion +15 AVENGER Triggers when you kill an Enemy you OBSERVED killing a friendly, additional bonuses will bs given to logis who revive the fallen teamate after an Avenger bonus has been awarded +10 SURVIVOR Triggers when you kill an Enemy you engaged starting the engagement with 50% eHP or less. +80 LAST STAND Triggers for each enemy you kill with 1 mag or less remaining in your equipped weapon, using a nanohive or switching to/from a filled weapon disables this bonus. Your suggestions for assault oriented bonus WPs are solid ideas, but there is one major way this.can be exploited. Snipers. Think how many WPs snipers would get for shooting redberries in the combat zone. They'd overtake logis in no time at all Resident pasty smasher
Zindorak Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 1628	Posted - 2015.01.13 12:31:00 - [7] - Quote Yea im fine with kill wp increase, aslong as you don't touch anything else Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1272	Posted - 2015.01.13 12:43:00 - [8] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: It's not necessarily that you don't recieve enough WP for a kill, it's that logi's earn WP from multiple incomes, some of which are passive, let's break it down. Assault/Heavy (Offence Orientated Roles) +50 Kill +25 Assist +100 NULL Point Hack +50/25/12 NULL Point Hack Assist +50 Installation Hack +25/12 Installation Hack Assist In additio to the following for Logistics(Assuming PRO with Tool, Injector, Hives, Uplink) +25 Team Spawn +10 Resupply +25 Triage +30 Guardian +60 Team Revive The Logistics can earn WP in almost twice as many ways as the Assault, what we need are offence oriented bonuses, while everyone will still be able to earn them (like an Assault with hives can earn resupply points), these points will most often be awarded to people who play to kill, some examples below. +20/10 FOCUSED FIRE Triggers when you and a teammate kill an opponent by both firing upon him at the same time, unlike Assist you must both be firing uponnthe target when he dies, (normally this creates a race condition 1 kill, 1 Assist), the one attributed with the Assist recieves 20 and the Kill recieves 10 +15 SUPPRESION Triggers when you force an enemy to disengage a friendly by firing upon him, this will be the main stay of WP earning for long range or low damage weapons. +40 SAVIOR Triggers when you kill or suppress an enemy who was firing upon a friendly with less than 40% eHP remaining, this hughe bonus can apply to Kills, Focused Fire and Suppresion +15 AVENGER Triggers when you kill an Enemy you OBSERVED killing a friendly, additional bonuses will bs given to logis who revive the fallen teamate after an Avenger bonus has been awarded +10 SURVIVOR Triggers when you kill an Enemy you engaged starting the engagement with 50% eHP or less. +80 LAST STAND Triggers for each enemy you kill with 1 mag or less remaining in your equipped weapon, using a nanohive or switching to/from a filled weapon disables this bonus. 10/10 post bro! May I add one? +10/20/30 KILLSTREAK After 5/10/15 kills without dying you receive +10/20/30 WPs for every kill. I'll add your suggestion to the OP. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Clone D 1314	Posted - 2015.01.13 12:49:00 - [9] - Quote I said something similar in this post: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2545262#post2545262 The consensus is that logis need more incentive to do their job due to lack of interest in the role.
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1921	Posted - 2015.01.13 13:29:00 - [10] - Quote if you want 1000 things popping up on your screen go play call of duty Don't Be A Scrub, Gimme A Sub!

Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1272	Posted - 2015.01.13 13:47:00 - [11] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: if you want 1000 things popping up on your screen go play call of duty Yes, because that's only difference between Dust and COD... One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1462	Posted - 2015.01.13 14:04:00 - [12] - Quote Yeah, I saw this coming. WP envy brought us Bandwidth and now we are seeing the inevitable "logis make too much WP". Because, that's why.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3593	Posted - 2015.01.13 14:11:00 - [13] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: It's not necessarily that you don't recieve enough WP for a kill, it's that logi's earn WP from multiple incomes, some of which are passive, let's break it down. Assault/Heavy (Offence Orientated Roles) +50 Kill +25 Assist +100 NULL Point Hack +50/25/12 NULL Point Hack Assist +50 Installation Hack +25/12 Installation Hack Assist In additio to the following for Logistics(Assuming PRO with Tool, Injector, Hives, Uplink) +25 Team Spawn +10 Resupply +25 Triage +30 Guardian +60 Team Revive The Logistics can earn WP in almost twice as many ways as the Assault, what we need are offence oriented bonuses, while everyone will still be able to earn them (like an Assault with hives can earn resupply points), these points will most often be awarded to people who play to kill, some examples below. +20/10 FOCUSED FIRE Triggers when you and a teammate kill an opponent by both firing upon him at the same time, unlike Assist you must both be firing uponnthe target when he dies, (normally this creates a race condition 1 kill, 1 Assist), the one attributed with the Assist recieves 20 and the Kill recieves 10 +15 SUPPRESION Triggers when you force an enemy to disengage a friendly by firing upon him, this will be the main stay of WP earning for long range or low damage weapons. +40 SAVIOR Triggers when you kill or suppress an enemy who was firing upon a friendly with less than 40% eHP remaining, this hughe bonus can apply to Kills, Focused Fire and Suppresion +15 AVENGER Triggers when you kill an Enemy you OBSERVED killing a friendly, additional bonuses will bs given to logis who revive the fallen teamate after an Avenger bonus has been awarded +10 SURVIVOR Triggers when you kill an Enemy you engaged starting the engagement with 50% eHP or less. +80 LAST STAND Triggers for each enemy you kill with 1 mag or less remaining in your equipped weapon, using a nanohive or switching to/from a filled weapon disables this bonus. Your suggestions for assault oriented bonus WPs are solid ideas, but there is one major way this.can be exploited. Snipers. Think how many WPs snipers would get for shooting redberries in the combat zone. They'd overtake logis in no time at all Potetially, although you aren't considering some of the rules I have already laid out. Snipers are unlikely to achieve FOCUSED FIRE due to their incedibly slow rate of fire, since snipers are one of the slowest firing infantry weapons in the game you set the delay to be shorter than it's fire rate. SUPPRESION is the biggest pull for Snipers to achieve, putting pot shots on redberries with a sniper usally makes them run a mile, Smipers would be recieveing a reward for doing one of their main jobs, suppressing the enemy SAVIOUR will also be a big draw for snipers killing or suppressing an enemy who is firing on a teammate is rewarding that sniper for fullfilling his overwatch duties, once again this is something Snipers should be rewarded for. AVENGER is simply a generic bonus, although with his limited FOV (pretty much exactly what he is aiming at, he is unlikely to directly observe and enemy killing someone, this makes this bonus relatively rare. SURVIVOR is also unlikley to trigger with a sniper due to the lack of health a sniper has, they rarely start an egagement with 50% or less health and are even less likely to win. LAST STAND is probably the one you are most concerned about, since a Sniper with one mag could potientally recieve an additional 80WP for each kill he makes, a simple modification so that between the 2 weapons you only 5% ammo capacity or less would solve this problem, furthermore add a 40m range limit so LAST STAND only really applies in close combat situations (such as defending a point). You have to remember that Snipers are Assault/Slayer Orientated roles, they aren't recon or scout roles, at least not with the current mechanics, the majority of the bonuses that apply to Assaults and Heavies quite frivously in close combat encourage Snipers and other long range (Artillery style units) to maintain an overwatch on friendly units. They then spend less time picking off that useless redberry in the middle of nowhere picking his nose and more time supporting his blues on the main assault. A sniper placed in prime posistion to suppress the enemy while his friends advance will be aptly rewarded. If anything this improves Sniper dynamics more than the chance of people farming WP from the redline. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Jack Boost Zarena Family 588	Posted - 2015.01.13 14:22:00 - [14] - Quote As assault you are not to much bechnid ..... Yes you have equiptment slots!!! and bandwich too! Logi are used for farm free good.. farm it the key word here, and CCP are ok with it. As assault you can almost have kils and wp fro logistic job. As scout you can get even more bonuses from broken playstyles? What can says heavy? No eq, no bandwitch? Is this post are for more alienate them? As av-heavy you can get only +75 because at optimal game design you shoudn't kill vehicle and very rarely get kill from it. As hmg-heavy you get kill's ... only when you manage join to farm fest logi or two. (even vehicle driver can operate alone and get more wp) I ask: Do you have more equal wp/sp distribution? Not much time left...
axis alpha Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 464	Posted - 2015.01.13 14:29:00 - [15] - Quote Lol Would be wayyyyy too hard for devs to code that. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
ADS IS OP Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2015.01.13 14:31:00 - [16] - Quote Some good ideas, I think that some could get exploited though. I also would not want my screen getting cluttered with pop up notifications We have gotten a wp slight increase with the objective defense bonus What if at the end of match you get a additional +10 sp bonus based on the in between numbers of your kdr? For example if you go 10 - 6 in a match you get a bonus of 40 additional wp Or if you go 24 - 2 you get a 220 sp bonus
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 692	Posted - 2015.01.13 14:50:00 - [17] - Quote Good ideas. Few of them could be in game [but not to many] like : more wp for kills, killstreaks, more wp for kills if you're under 50% of hp. Anything would be good. Cuz right now killing is not rewarded [in WP (PC) and in WP+isks in pubs] enough. Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth. Not scared of death [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba]. Honour and Mission over money
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3594	Posted - 2015.01.13 15:31:00 - [18] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: As assault you are not to much bechnid ..... Yes you have equiptment slots!!! and bandwich too! Logi are used for farm free good.. farm it the key word here, and CCP are ok with it. As assault you can almost have kils and wp fro logistic job. As scout you can get even more bonuses from broken playstyles? What can says heavy? No eq, no bandwitch? Is this post are for more alienate them? As av-heavy you can get only +75 because at optimal game design you shoudn't kill vehicle and very rarely get kill from it. As hmg-heavy you get kill's ... only when you manage join to farm fest logi or two. (even vehicle driver can operate alone and get more wp) I ask: Do you have more equal wp/sp distribution? Heavies would be recieve the WP bonuses I have suggested, you also have to consider that heavies having so much health would get the SURVIOUR bonus quite regularly. Not to mention SUPPRESION, FOCUS FIRE, SAVIOUR. The suggested WP Rewards insetivise team play between players that aren't neccesarily on the same squad. As for exploitation much like the logis who exploit hives around a supply depot, you won't do very well. Sure you might get a couple of more WP, but you would get much more if you actually earned them in the intentional way. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 140	Posted - 2015.01.13 16:10:00 - [19] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Lol Would be wayyyyy too hard for devs to code that. Unfortunately he's right... The propositions are good but they will never manage to code them.. Need to find some better ones, easier to implement. The killstreak one is cool Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 257	Posted - 2015.01.13 17:04:00 - [20] - Quote The ideas seem more like fantasy. You can simply fit your Assault suit with an Uplink or nanohive or some other equipment and get the same. Its pretty simple really Lets say you make three Assault fittings, one with uplinks, one with nanohives and one with repair tool You can drop one of each equipment and switch to a rep tool haha Dust Weekly Lottery Proud Christian Jesus Loves You

taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 297	Posted - 2015.01.13 17:07:00 - [21] - Quote IMO for killing the following suits basic - front line - militia 50 WP advanced 75 WP proto 100 WP simple
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 253	Posted - 2015.01.13 17:17:00 - [22] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: I'd say every kill should give you 70 or 80 WPs to help new player that dont want to play the logi role to farm isks and SPs more easily. This is an fps after all, your ability to kill should be rewarded Edit: Thank you to Monkey MAC for this great post. I may change my suggestion to just increase the reward for every kill to introduce the following: +20/10 FOCUSED FIRE Triggers when you and a teammate kill an opponent by both firing upon him at the same time, unlike Assist you must both be firing uponnthe target when he dies, (normally this creates a race condition 1 kill, 1 Assist), the one attributed with the Assist recieves 20 and the Kill recieves 10 +15 SUPPRESION Triggers when you force an enemy to disengage a friendly by firing upon him, this will be the main stay of WP earning for long range or low damage weapons. +40 SAVIOR Triggers when you kill or suppress an enemy who was firing upon a friendly with less than 40% eHP remaining, this hughe bonus can apply to Kills, Focused Fire and Suppresion +15 AVENGER Triggers when you kill an Enemy you OBSERVED killing a friendly, additional bonuses will bs given to logis who revive the fallen teamate after an Avenger bonus has been awarded +10 SURVIVOR Triggers when you kill an Enemy you engaged starting the engagement with 50% eHP or less. +80 LAST STAND Triggers for each enemy you kill with 1 mag or less remaining in your equipped weapon, using a nanohive or switching to/from a filled weapon disables this bonus. +10/20/30 KILLSTREAK After 5/10/15 kills without dying you receive +10/20/30 WPs for every kill. I'm not saying we should add all these things but CCP may take a look at these and choose from them. So add more ideas! Lots of good ideas in the OP, I'm very much on the same page and would like to see a whole load of extras when it comes to rewarding kills/killstreaks and situational takedowns. I would add that the last 5 guys on your team (when you have no more clones available and are being hunted by 20 or more redberries) should receive a big bonus for any kills they make. sort of a 'Last Stand' reward except you've already used that name - so how about 'The End is Nigh' +30 GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 253	Posted - 2015.01.13 17:18:00 - [23] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: IMO for killing the following suits basic - front line - militia 50 WP advanced 75 WP proto 100 WP simple Very good idea, simple but logical. GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Academy Inferno E-R-A 250	Posted - 2015.01.13 17:32:00 - [24] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: taxi bastard wrote: IMO for killing the following suits basic - front line - militia 50 WP advanced 75 WP proto 100 WP simple Very good idea, simple but logical. Make it 40/50/60 OP don't forget about people like me who own all line or multiple proto suits. Sometimes I'm doing logi work and it's almost impossible to stick with logi rather than changing it to role where I can kill more. Especially when there's big red wall on scoreboard. Put a needle on your suit. Logi will give U nanohives.
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1630	Posted - 2015.01.13 17:45:00 - [25] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: if you want 1000 things popping up on your screen go play call of duty Oh yeah, so I guess 5+ OB reminder messages, the crazy long names in the killfeed because of ranks, and 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED'/'ENEMY IS HACKING OBJECTIVE X' that are cluttering up my screen are just in my imagination, eh? Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 I'm not American, FFS!!!
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1630	Posted - 2015.01.13 17:48:00 - [26] - Quote Apparently CCP needs to make Logis WP wh4res because playing Logi is boring AF, and nobody would do it if they didn't obtain obscene amounts of WP. To the Logis in this thread, let me ask you this: 'Would you continue to play as Logi if you earnt only half as many WP as you do now?' Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 I'm not American, FFS!!!
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 298	Posted - 2015.01.13 18:18:00 - [27] - Quote OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: al nize mk2 wrote: taxi bastard wrote: IMO for killing the following suits basic - front line - militia 50 WP advanced 75 WP proto 100 WP simple Very good idea, simple but logical. Make it 40/50/60 OP don't forget about people like me who own all line or multiple proto suits. Sometimes I'm doing logi work and it's almost impossible to stick with logi rather than changing it to role where I can kill more. Especially when there's big red wall on scoreboard. Put a needle on your suit. Logi will give U nanohives. not sure what your ability to use proto suits has to do with it? i have unlocked 5 caldari scout mini logi and comando ammar assault and heavy slaying gets alot less money - killing the more shinny suits and getting a little be more reward seems fair to me
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1277	Posted - 2015.01.13 18:43:00 - [28] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Yeah, I saw this coming. WP envy brought us Bandwidth and now we are seeing the inevitable "logis make too much WP". I'm not asking to nerf logi's ability to obtain WP, I'm asking to have the possibility to obtain a similar amount of WP in a similar match. How it is now if I play a great match I'll obtain a number of WP a logi obtains in an average match. Do you play PCs? Killers never top the leaderboard, there are always 2 or three logis in the first positions. Timtron Victory wrote: The ideas seem more like fantasy. You can simply fit your Assault suit with an Uplink or nanohive or some other equipment and get the same. Its pretty simple really Lets say you make three Assault fittings, one with uplinks, one with nanohives and one with repair tool You can drop one of each equipment and switch to a rep tool haha If I wanted to play the logi role I would have skilled into a logi suit, I dont want to obtain more WPs, I want to be rewarded more for playing my role. Sentines', Assaults' and Commandos' role is killing. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1279	Posted - 2015.01.13 19:14:00 - [29] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: I would add that the last 5 guys on your team (when you have no more clones available and are being hunted by 20 or more redberries) should receive a big bonus for any kills they make. sort of a 'Last Stand' reward except you've already used that name - so how about 'The End is Nigh' +30 I changed your idea a little bit, I hope this is not a problem. Basically it is the same but it starts giving more WPs when the clone count is at 10 or 15 or 20. So in the last moments of a battle, when everything can still change you are rewarded more. __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Another idea could be to give different WPs to different roles. an example: a logi and an assault both kill an enemy and revive a friend. The logi is rewarded with 30 WPs for the kill and 60 WPs for reviving. The assault is rewarded 60 WPs for the kill and 30 WPs for the revive. (numbers are just examples.) So to start putting down a couple of things: ASSAULTS AND COMMANDOS: a lot of WP for killing little amount of WP from equipments medium amount of WP from hacking LOGIS: a lot of WP from equipments little amount of WP fro killing medium or high amount of WP for hacking. SCOUTS: medium from killing medium from equipments high from hacking Also: ASSAULTS AND COMMANDOS: Bonus for killing an enemy near an enemy Null Cannon SENTINELS: Bonus for killing an enemy near a blue Null Cannon SCOUTS: Bonus when they destroy an enemy equipment I have to apologies, I put Commandos with Assaults because I do not know their role that much, if you could help me on it. If you like this idea start adding more ideas, I'll edit this post like I'm doing with OP. IMPORTANT: This second idea wouldnt necessarily mean the ideas in the OP couldnt be added, these two system could be added together. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5470	Posted - 2015.01.13 19:50:00 - [30] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: IMO for killing the following suits basic - front line - militia 50 WP advanced 75 WP proto 100 WP simple What about the APEX? They're proto suits, but with STD gear.



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