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Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1271	Posted - 2014.12.21 14:46:00 - [1] - Quote It'd be cool to have resistance mods and all and I've given it some thought. Let each mod give you somewhere to 10%-20% with a resistance to a certian damage type, penalties can be hard to fit and skilling into it can lower the cpu or pg respectively. Armor resistance modules would be in the high slots and shield resistance modules in the low slots. This way armor guys dont have to use nothing but damage mods. Also if someone has a maxed proficiency it can nullify this resistance module so shouldn't be op. Also i think a shield rep tool should basically be a super regulator that just kickstarts delays of suits with triage points for each kickstart. Could be op with one more logi but the armor rep with two logis is ridiculous pretty op to. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Regnier Feros G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 188	Posted - 2014.12.21 15:38:00 - [2] - Quote If the percentage is going to be 10-20% then you'll need a huge downside to it. Something like this : Complex projectile resistance mod resist projectile weapons by 20% increase damage taken by explosive weapons by 20% I like pie do you like pie because i hate pie & I like muffins.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4833	Posted - 2014.12.21 16:06:00 - [3] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: If the percentage is going to be 10-20% then you'll need a huge downside to it. Something like this : Complex projectile resistance mod resist projectile weapons by 20% increase damage taken by explosive weapons by 20% The downside is if you get attacked by another weapon type you basically have a wasted slot. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8922	Posted - 2014.12.21 16:58:00 - [4] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: If the percentage is going to be 10-20% then you'll need a huge downside to it. Something like this : Complex projectile resistance mod resist projectile weapons by 20% increase damage taken by explosive weapons by 20% The downside is if you get attacked by another weapon type you basically have a wasted slot. Absolutely correct. The opportunity cost is that you could have used that module to be general purpose and help in all situations like more HP or more Damage. Instead you trade it off for a specific benefit, while being more effective than a general purpose module, doesn't get utilized as much. My Federation Navy Comet has +80% resistance to Kinetic weaponry. That's great if I'm fighting against rails and Kinetic Missiles, but that's always nearly not that case, only with missioning against NPCs I know will have that damage profile is it the most useful. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1272	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:06:00 - [5] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: If the percentage is going to be 10-20% then you'll need a huge downside to it. Something like this : Complex projectile resistance mod resist projectile weapons by 20% increase damage taken by explosive weapons by 20% Just stop We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Doshneil Antaro Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 313	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:37:00 - [6] - Quote Lol, take a mass driver w/prof 5 against any heavy 1 vs 1. Then you will see why resistance mods would be the single most OP thing ever. Ever! No other mod would ever be used except for some tryhard scouts. Sage /thread
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1471	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:39:00 - [7] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: If the percentage is going to be 10-20% then you'll need a huge downside to it. Something like this : Complex projectile resistance mod resist projectile weapons by 20% increase damage taken by explosive weapons by 20% I wouldn't even entertain the idea of using one. That would be an utterly trash deal to take in a PVP setting. Completely useless module. I could understand if the game had predictable PVE enemies, but the weapons your PVP enemies use are for all intents and purposes, random. And having a resistance fit set up for every situation would just be impractical. Why would I use that module, when I could just equip a Normal HP mod that would increase my HP by 15-20% with much less crippling drawbacks? Someone's gotta tell the stupids that their ideas are bad, and I guess it's my job...
Doshneil Antaro Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 313	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:41:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: If the percentage is going to be 10-20% then you'll need a huge downside to it. Something like this : Complex projectile resistance mod resist projectile weapons by 20% increase damage taken by explosive weapons by 20% I wouldn't even entertain the idea of using one. That would be an utterly trash deal to take in a PVP setting. Completely useless module. I could understand if the game had predictable PVE enemies, but the weapons your PVP enemies use are for all intents and purposes, random. And having a resistance fit set up for every situation would just be impractical. Why would I use that module, when I could just equip a Normal HP mod that would increase my HP by 15-20% with much less crippling drawbacks? Because heavies would benefit greatly from this. No need to stack armor that reduces strafe when you could add resistance. Sage /thread
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1272	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:48:00 - [9] - Quote Doshneil Antaro wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: If the percentage is going to be 10-20% then you'll need a huge downside to it. Something like this : Complex projectile resistance mod resist projectile weapons by 20% increase damage taken by explosive weapons by 20% I wouldn't even entertain the idea of using one. That would be an utterly trash deal to take in a PVP setting. Completely useless module. I could understand if the game had predictable PVE enemies, but the weapons your PVP enemies use are for all intents and purposes, random. And having a resistance fit set up for every situation would just be impractical. Why would I use that module, when I could just equip a Normal HP mod that would increase my HP by 15-20% with much less crippling drawbacks? Because heavies would benefit greatly from this. No need to stack armor that reduces strafe when you could add resistance. Sid you guys even read the part where penalties are high on cpu or pg? Also heavies right now are easy to kill get gud scrub We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1471	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:48:00 - [10] - Quote Doshneil Antaro wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: If the percentage is going to be 10-20% then you'll need a huge downside to it. Something like this : Complex projectile resistance mod resist projectile weapons by 20% increase damage taken by explosive weapons by 20% I wouldn't even entertain the idea of using one. That would be an utterly trash deal to take in a PVP setting. Completely useless module. I could understand if the game had predictable PVE enemies, but the weapons your PVP enemies use are for all intents and purposes, random. And having a resistance fit set up for every situation would just be impractical. Why would I use that module, when I could just equip a Normal HP mod that would increase my HP by 15-20% with much less crippling drawbacks? Because heavies would benefit greatly from this. No need to stack armor that reduces strafe when you could add resistance. Alright. You know what? Add these modules CCP! Just as the people in this thread has described them! Its quite obvious that everyone but me would use them, so I just want to reap the rewards and get all the easy kills. Someone's gotta tell the stupids that their ideas are bad, and I guess it's my job...

Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1472	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:55:00 - [11] - Quote I mean... How can you guys seriously think the idea of a module where the penalties heavily outweigh the advantages would make a good module? There would be more reasons not to use it than to use it! Pros: +20% resists Cons: -20% resists Uses slot Uses PG/CPU Costs ISK You might as well be equipping a module that does absolutely nothing, because you would be better off using that! Jesus, some of the people in these forums have absolutely no sense for balance. At all... Someone's gotta tell the stupids that their ideas are bad, and I guess it's my job...
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game RUST415 1778	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:57:00 - [12] - Quote i would prefer something along the lines of https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Reactive_Armor_Hardener . where the enemy team is heavy in 1 damage type due to FOTM this would boost your resistances to that damage type. if the enemy is using multiple damage types then you would get a smaller resist amount obviously the percentages would have to be tweaked but it offers up a far better solution than a massive increase to one and a massive decrease to another. All Hail Legion
Doshneil Antaro Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 313	Posted - 2014.12.21 19:06:00 - [13] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Doshneil Antaro wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: If the percentage is going to be 10-20% then you'll need a huge downside to it. Something like this : Complex projectile resistance mod resist projectile weapons by 20% increase damage taken by explosive weapons by 20% I wouldn't even entertain the idea of using one. That would be an utterly trash deal to take in a PVP setting. Completely useless module. I could understand if the game had predictable PVE enemies, but the weapons your PVP enemies use are for all intents and purposes, random. And having a resistance fit set up for every situation would just be impractical. Why would I use that module, when I could just equip a Normal HP mod that would increase my HP by 15-20% with much less crippling drawbacks? Because heavies would benefit greatly from this. No need to stack armor that reduces strafe when you could add resistance. Sid you guys even read the part where penalties are high on cpu or pg? Also heavies right now are easy to kill get gud scrub lol a hreavy is easy to kill, a team of heavies is another issue that we see every other game. Also, saying "Get gud" has no room in an adult conversation. Sage /thread
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1272	Posted - 2014.12.21 19:20:00 - [14] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: I mean... How can you guys seriously think the idea of a module where the penalties heavily outweigh the advantages would make a good module? There would be more reasons not to use it than to use it! Pros: +20% resists Cons: -20% resists Uses slot Uses PG/CPU Costs ISK You might as well be equipping a module that does absolutely nothing, because you would be better off using that! Jesus, some of the people in these forums have absolutely no sense for balance. At all... Do you even pvp in eve? No stop being butthurt We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 116	Posted - 2014.12.21 19:36:00 - [15] - Quote does no one remember hav or murder taxis? they had the resist mods plus natural resist. however 20% maybe to high why not try 6% basic, 8% adv & 10% to one type per mod. yes there will be stacking penalies but only if you stack the same type of resist mod, cpu/pg of the damage mods, armor ones on high side and shields to low. this way heavies can not abuse them to op levels, the worst heavy to abuse this would be caldari making their armor harder to take out or the Minnie but both have lower ehp the the gall or amarr by 200-400 (easily on protos). logis and assault could stack 2-3 making them more of a defender, resist damage but at the cost of dealing damage. the resist mods themselves should be broke up like the damage resist of the heavies. hybrid - blasters, hybrid- railgun, laser weapons, projectile weapons, the amarr heavies would be harder to kill when going up against with another heavy since they have a natural 15% resist the throw another 10% on, however 5% damage mod plus proficiency of the hmg 15% (when in armor) and the natural 10 of being an armor weapon being it to 25% so it is equal damage plus resist,
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16188	Posted - 2014.12.21 19:47:00 - [16] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: It'd be cool to have resistance mods and all and I've given it some thought. Let each mod give you somewhere to 10%-20% with a resistance to a certian damage type, penalties can be hard to fit and skilling into it can lower the cpu or pg respectively. Armor resistance modules would be in the high slots and shield resistance modules in the low slots. This way armor guys dont have to use nothing but damage mods. Also if someone has a maxed proficiency it can nullify this resistance module so shouldn't be op. Also i think a shield rep tool should basically be a super regulator that just kickstarts delays of suits with triage points for each kickstart. Could be op with one more logi but the armor rep with two logis is ridiculous pretty op to. On a suit why pick a resistance module over an extender or plate? Traditionally passive resistance modules are cheaper to fit than plates or extenders. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5908	Posted - 2014.12.21 20:28:00 - [17] - Quote resist only fits don't work in anything resembling PvP. You need to have a buffer and some form of reps to back the resists or the fits wind up being deceptively squishy. Especially in a combat environment like DUST where there is literally no possible way to predict enemy fits. Plus everyone will just stack projectile resists to counter heavy spam EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 116	Posted - 2014.12.21 22:09:00 - [18] - Quote @ Breakin Stuff read my post and tell me what you think?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16194	Posted - 2014.12.21 22:23:00 - [19] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: resist only fits don't work in anything resembling PvP. You need to have a buffer and some form of reps to back the resists or the fits wind up being deceptively squishy. Especially in a combat environment like DUST where there is literally no possible way to predict enemy fits. Plus everyone will just stack projectile resists to counter heavy spam PIE Inc corp tormentor is passive tanked and we watched one of them nab and solo and Ishkur Pilot....... funniest thing I've ever seen. Works wonders in PvP. https://zkillboard.com/kill/43188894/ *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Megaman Trigger Knights of Eternal Darkness 156	Posted - 2014.12.21 23:09:00 - [20] - Quote I assume that any Resistance Mods would have a stacking penalty? Purifier. First Class.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5912	Posted - 2014.12.21 23:20:00 - [21] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: I assume that any Resistance Mods would have a stacking penalty? anything with a percent base would. But for overall resist mods (omni resists) anything over 10-12% would be excessive as hell. For single-damage resists you could go upwards of 15-18% before you break the calculations. the way CCP sets up their calculations it is literally impossible to get 100% resists in any category. I think the highest I have personally seen in EVE was 82%? But that was active tank resist mods, not passive. Actives give MUCH higher values. Edit: I need to redo my math. Generally a omni resist module is ROUGHLY equivalent to the module used to add raw HP like plates or extenders. So a resist mod for omni would be roughly equivalent EHP to a plate or an extender. It just means you're more able to take advantage of reps easily. HP stacking for holding the line, resists work best for regen builds. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 116	Posted - 2014.12.22 00:08:00 - [22] - Quote read this breakin stuff jace silencerww wrote: does no one remember hav or murder taxis? they had the resist mods plus natural resist. however 20% maybe to high why not try 6% basic, 8% adv & 10% to one type per mod. yes there will be stacking penalies but only if you stack the same type of resist mod, cpu/pg of the damage mods, armor ones on high side and shields to low. this way heavies can not abuse them to op levels, the worst heavy to abuse this would be caldari making their armor harder to take out or the Minnie but both have lower ehp the the gall or amarr by 200-400 (easily on protos). logis and assault could stack 2-3 making them more of a defender, resist damage but at the cost of dealing damage. the resist mods themselves should be broke up like the damage resist of the heavies. hybrid - blasters, hybrid- railgun, laser weapons, projectile weapons, both having an armor on high slot and shield on low slots. the amarr heavies would be harder to kill when going up against with another heavy since they have a natural 15% resist the throw another 10% on, however 5% damage mod plus proficiency of the hmg 15% (when in armor) and the natural 10 of being an armor weapon being it to 25% so it is equal damage plus resist, what do you think?
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1274	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:19:00 - [23] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: does no one remember hav or murder taxis? they had the resist mods plus natural resist. however 20% maybe to high why not try 6% basic, 8% adv & 10% to one type per mod. yes there will be stacking penalies but only if you stack the same type of resist mod, cpu/pg of the damage mods, armor ones on high side and shields to low. this way heavies can not abuse them to op levels, the worst heavy to abuse this would be caldari making their armor harder to take out or the Minnie but both have lower ehp the the gall or amarr by 200-400 (easily on protos). logis and assault could stack 2-3 making them more of a defender, resist damage but at the cost of dealing damage. the resist mods themselves should be broke up like the damage resist of the heavies. hybrid - blasters, hybrid- railgun, laser weapons, projectile weapons, both having an armor on high slots and shield on low slots the amarr heavies would be harder to kill when going up against with another heavy since they have a natural 15% resist the throw another 10% on, however 5% damage mod plus proficiency of the hmg 15% (when in armor) and the natural 10 of being an armor weapon being it to 25% so it is equal damage plus resist, Are you guys forgetting armor resistance modules would be high slots? An amarr heavy has wahat 1 high slot? Thats sooooooo op. Same goes for Caldari heavy 1 low slot 4 highs no room for resistance modules We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16199	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:39:00 - [24] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: jace silencerww wrote: does no one remember hav or murder taxis? they had the resist mods plus natural resist. however 20% maybe to high why not try 6% basic, 8% adv & 10% to one type per mod. yes there will be stacking penalies but only if you stack the same type of resist mod, cpu/pg of the damage mods, armor ones on high side and shields to low. this way heavies can not abuse them to op levels, the worst heavy to abuse this would be caldari making their armor harder to take out or the Minnie but both have lower ehp the the gall or amarr by 200-400 (easily on protos). logis and assault could stack 2-3 making them more of a defender, resist damage but at the cost of dealing damage. the resist mods themselves should be broke up like the damage resist of the heavies. hybrid - blasters, hybrid- railgun, laser weapons, projectile weapons, both having an armor on high slots and shield on low slots the amarr heavies would be harder to kill when going up against with another heavy since they have a natural 15% resist the throw another 10% on, however 5% damage mod plus proficiency of the hmg 15% (when in armor) and the natural 10 of being an armor weapon being it to 25% so it is equal damage plus resist, Are you guys forgetting armor resistance modules would be high slots? An amarr heavy has wahat 1 high slot? Thats sooooooo op. Same goes for Caldari heavy 1 low slot 4 highs no room for resistance modules NOPE NOPE NOPE. Resistance Modules fit in the correct racial slot. Shields- High Armour - Low *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Loyal Glasses Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 12	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:56:00 - [25] - Quote Wouldn't it be better to have the modules affect Shield only? I'm Gallente so even on proto I only use armor and a TON of armor reps but having that extra buffer along with a few new shield modules seen like it would work best. "Glasses of the Loyal Variety"
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16199	Posted - 2014.12.22 02:30:00 - [26] - Quote Loyal Glasses wrote: Wouldn't it be better to have the modules affect Shield only? I'm Gallente so even on proto I only use armor and a TON of armor reps but having that extra buffer along with a few new shield modules seen like it would work best. Resistance modules are not unique to shields. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1275	Posted - 2014.12.22 03:01:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: jace silencerww wrote: does no one remember hav or murder taxis? they had the resist mods plus natural resist. however 20% maybe to high why not try 6% basic, 8% adv & 10% to one type per mod. yes there will be stacking penalies but only if you stack the same type of resist mod, cpu/pg of the damage mods, armor ones on high side and shields to low. this way heavies can not abuse them to op levels, the worst heavy to abuse this would be caldari making their armor harder to take out or the Minnie but both have lower ehp the the gall or amarr by 200-400 (easily on protos). logis and assault could stack 2-3 making them more of a defender, resist damage but at the cost of dealing damage. the resist mods themselves should be broke up like the damage resist of the heavies. hybrid - blasters, hybrid- railgun, laser weapons, projectile weapons, both having an armor on high slots and shield on low slots the amarr heavies would be harder to kill when going up against with another heavy since they have a natural 15% resist the throw another 10% on, however 5% damage mod plus proficiency of the hmg 15% (when in armor) and the natural 10 of being an armor weapon being it to 25% so it is equal damage plus resist, Are you guys forgetting armor resistance modules would be high slots? An amarr heavy has wahat 1 high slot? Thats sooooooo op. Same goes for Caldari heavy 1 low slot 4 highs no room for resistance modules NOPE NOPE NOPE. Resistance Modules fit in the correct racial slot. Shields- High Armour - Low Then you would give up your tank for a resistance mod? In pvp? Doesnt sound smart We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16200	Posted - 2014.12.22 03:09:00 - [28] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: jace silencerww wrote: does no one remember hav or murder taxis? they had the resist mods plus natural resist. however 20% maybe to high why not try 6% basic, 8% adv & 10% to one type per mod. yes there will be stacking penalies but only if you stack the same type of resist mod, cpu/pg of the damage mods, armor ones on high side and shields to low. this way heavies can not abuse them to op levels, the worst heavy to abuse this would be caldari making their armor harder to take out or the Minnie but both have lower ehp the the gall or amarr by 200-400 (easily on protos). logis and assault could stack 2-3 making them more of a defender, resist damage but at the cost of dealing damage. the resist mods themselves should be broke up like the damage resist of the heavies. hybrid - blasters, hybrid- railgun, laser weapons, projectile weapons, both having an armor on high slots and shield on low slots the amarr heavies would be harder to kill when going up against with another heavy since they have a natural 15% resist the throw another 10% on, however 5% damage mod plus proficiency of the hmg 15% (when in armor) and the natural 10 of being an armor weapon being it to 25% so it is equal damage plus resist, Are you guys forgetting armor resistance modules would be high slots? An amarr heavy has wahat 1 high slot? Thats sooooooo op. Same goes for Caldari heavy 1 low slot 4 highs no room for resistance modules NOPE NOPE NOPE. Resistance Modules fit in the correct racial slot. Shields- High Armour - Low Then you would give up your tank for a resistance mod? In pvp? Doesnt sound smart In Dust it would depend on the situation. I would drop a plate/kincat/utility slot on a protosuit in some cases to plug the explosive damage profile vs my suit. Preventing grenades from OHKOing me or Mass Driver/Flay Locks doing so much damage..... or vs Kinetic Damage (projectile weapons) from doing so much DPS...yup. In EVE.....yup again. I'd be a fool not to on the ships I fly. Corp Tormentor uses an Adaptive Nano Plate , my Retribution uses a Thermic Rig and an even better Nanoplate, my Confessor uses Nanoplates, almost all the ships I've ever used bar kiting ships use Nanoplate, Energized Plates, or depending on whether or not I know the source of my opponents primary damage the individual resistance plates themselves. 690.75 armour with say 10% armour resistances vs all damage types (or specific I don't know which kind you refer to) roughly 760 eHP unmodified, partially nullifies the damage of weapons that do increased damage vs me, and even further reduces the effectiveness of the wrong kind of weapons while not compromising my eHP at all....... why would I not stack one of those? *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5915	Posted - 2014.12.22 09:01:00 - [29] - Quote Jace I think adding resistance mods would natively require a rework the sentinel defenses again. Also you have to remember that the amarr rail resistance is on the shields, which means the amsent isn't as cut and dried as you might think. The Sentinel suits won't gain as much traction as one might think. The downside to resists is the fact that if you stack resists you sacrifice HP. This is a big deal. Stacking plates you can get away with buffer tanking. With resists you cannot get away with it as well. You become dependent upon reps. Further because as resists are no-drawback they need to provide less overall HP than plates. I'm on the fence about how to balance them against extenders because you can spike shield regen through the roof. For single-damage type hardeners it needs to cap at about 20% ish. Since three plates can almost double your EHP triple stacking hardeners should provide less benefit to raw EHP while providing solid protection vs. Specific damage. Remember plates protect against everything. But if you four-stack projectile resists to fight other sentinels you will be leaving yourself untanked vs. Rails AR and lasers. In short yer dead. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1278	Posted - 2014.12.22 17:05:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: jace silencerww wrote: does no one remember hav or murder taxis? they had the resist mods plus natural resist. however 20% maybe to high why not try 6% basic, 8% adv & 10% to one type per mod. yes there will be stacking penalies but only if you stack the same type of resist mod, cpu/pg of the damage mods, armor ones on high side and shields to low. this way heavies can not abuse them to op levels, the worst heavy to abuse this would be caldari making their armor harder to take out or the Minnie but both have lower ehp the the gall or amarr by 200-400 (easily on protos). logis and assault could stack 2-3 making them more of a defender, resist damage but at the cost of dealing damage. the resist mods themselves should be broke up like the damage resist of the heavies. hybrid - blasters, hybrid- railgun, laser weapons, projectile weapons, both having an armor on high slots and shield on low slots the amarr heavies would be harder to kill when going up against with another heavy since they have a natural 15% resist the throw another 10% on, however 5% damage mod plus proficiency of the hmg 15% (when in armor) and the natural 10 of being an armor weapon being it to 25% so it is equal damage plus resist, Are you guys forgetting armor resistance modules would be high slots? An amarr heavy has wahat 1 high slot? Thats sooooooo op. Same goes for Caldari heavy 1 low slot 4 highs no room for resistance modules NOPE NOPE NOPE. Resistance Modules fit in the correct racial slot. Shields- High Armour - Low So what your saying is you don't want an armor upgrade in the high slot. Say what We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals



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