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Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2386	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:13:00 - [31] - Quote Clone D wrote: There is an equal chance that the team that I will be assigned to has organized squads, as the opposing team having organized squads. It is random and by chance I should at least end up on a team with the advantage 50% of the time. That is not happening. THERE IS NOT AN EQUAL CHANCE by not bringing your own team and going tolo into FW you lower the chance of your team being organised making it no longer equal. you CHOSE weather or not your bringing organised squad, it isnt random its literally your choice by your account of how probability works nobody in the game should have a win/loss ratio over 1/1 but thats not true we have people with winn lose ratios of over 1 and well under 1 now if you average EVERY player on BOTH teams then the average is 1, but if you only average one team (say amaar fac war only) then the math no longer works. bionary desisions like that dont work. look at this this way, tommorow one of two things could happen to you, you could either live through the day, or die before the day is done. that DOES NOT mean you have a 50% chance of dieing tommorow. MATH DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Clone D Grundstein Automation 930	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:17:00 - [32] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Clone D wrote: There is an equal chance that the team that I will be assigned to has organized squads, as the opposing team having organized squads. It is random and by chance I should at least end up on a team with the advantage 50% of the time. That is not happening. THERE IS NOT AN EQUAL CHANCE by not bringing your own team and going tolo into FW you lower the chance of your team being organised making it no longer equal. you CHOSE weather or not your bringing organised squad, it isnt random its literally your choice by your account of how probability works nobody in the game should have a win/loss ratio over 1/1 but thats not true we have people with winn lose ratios of over 1 and well under 1 now if you average EVERY player on BOTH teams then the average is 1, but if you only average one team (say amaar fac war only) then the math no longer works. bionary desisions like that dont work. look at this this way, tommorow one of two things could happen to you, you could either live through the day, or die before the day is done. that DOES NOT mean you have a 50% chance of dieing tommorow. MATH DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT It is guaranteed that 1 team WILL win and 1 team WILL lose. I will be on ONE of the TWO teams and therefore have a 50% chance of being assigned to the WINNING team. It is not guaranteed that I WILL live tomorrow or I WILL die tomorrow. ISK Trader channel: blitz
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1712	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:19:00 - [33] - Quote You're stupid aren't you? Or you didn't get through math or probability in grade 7. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Clone D Grundstein Automation 930	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:21:00 - [34] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: You're stupid aren't you? Or you didn't get through math or probability in grade 7. I have displayed the probability above. You have displayed nothing of quantitative significance. ISK Trader channel: blitz
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact 6279	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:24:00 - [35] - Quote Amarr are such bads, i get in first place when i play while dual boxing EVE defending the district(even getting kills) while defending one objective on dust by myself because everyone in Amarr has Adhd and has to run to the next shiny red letter and leave the one they just captured completely unguarded. I run solo most of the time because i like to listen to music. It's a little bit my fault but the thing i don't like is people right out of the academy in FW. It's bad for me and bad for them. My Chat: NEG1 Pub 21 Day EVE Trial ISK, Corp & PC Services
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1712	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:31:00 - [36] - Quote Clone D wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're stupid aren't you? Or you didn't get through math or probability in grade 7. I have displayed the probability above. You have displayed nothing of quantitative significance. No, you have actually brought nothing quantative to the table. Nothing you've said is substantiated. I could go back to the discussions about mu matchmaking and reference that stuff. Your numbers are pulled out of nowhere. If you won't accept what the majority of people who do understand this are telling you there's no point in continuing this conversation. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Clone D Grundstein Automation 931	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:35:00 - [37] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Clone D wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're stupid aren't you? Or you didn't get through math or probability in grade 7. I have displayed the probability above. You have displayed nothing of quantitative significance. No, you have actually brought nothing quantative to the table. Nothing you've said is substantiated. I could go back to the discussions about mu matchmaking and reference that stuff. Your numbers are pulled out of nowhere. If you won't accept what the majority of people who do understand this are telling you there's no point in continuing this conversation. There is information conformity and normative conformity. You have not convinced me of anything by the "information" that you have shared. I will not accept what the majority of people think, because the majority of people are usually not thinking clearly. I don't have the actual data on CCPs servers, so I can't tell you what percentage of the time each faction wins, and therefore I can't investigate the behaviors that contribute to the statistical evidence, so we have to work with theory here. The theory has been stated above, and we can drill into it further if you need to. ISK Trader channel: blitz
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2386	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:35:00 - [38] - Quote Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Clone D wrote: There is an equal chance that the team that I will be assigned to has organized squads, as the opposing team having organized squads. It is random and by chance I should at least end up on a team with the advantage 50% of the time. That is not happening. THERE IS NOT AN EQUAL CHANCE by not bringing your own team and going tolo into FW you lower the chance of your team being organised making it no longer equal. you CHOSE weather or not your bringing organised squad, it isnt random its literally your choice by your account of how probability works nobody in the game should have a win/loss ratio over 1/1 but thats not true we have people with winn lose ratios of over 1 and well under 1 now if you average EVERY player on BOTH teams then the average is 1, but if you only average one team (say amaar fac war only) then the math no longer works. bionary desisions like that dont work. look at this this way, tommorow one of two things could happen to you, you could either live through the day, or die before the day is done. that DOES NOT mean you have a 50% chance of dieing tommorow. MATH DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT It is guaranteed that 1 team WILL win and 1 team WILL lose. I will be on ONE of the TWO teams and therefore have a 50% chance of being assigned to the WINNING team. It is not guaranteed that I WILL live tomorrow or I WILL die tomorrow. you do NOT have a 50% chance of being assigned to the winning team that 50% number assumes ALL things are equal, and they arnt. for instance, your not organising a squad and almost everyone elsee is, so technically your going to have a higher chance of being on the unorganised team simply by being unorganised. thats not how statistics, probability and math work. bionary options are NEVER 50/50 not even a coin flip due to the entropy principal in rac war you have a guarenteed chance ofbeing on the same side of battle every game (amaar for instance) you CANNOT be placed on the minmatar side... therefore your dont have a 50% chance of being on the winning team, you have a 100% chance of being on the amaar team. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Clone D Grundstein Automation 931	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:38:00 - [39] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Clone D wrote: There is an equal chance that the team that I will be assigned to has organized squads, as the opposing team having organized squads. It is random and by chance I should at least end up on a team with the advantage 50% of the time. That is not happening. THERE IS NOT AN EQUAL CHANCE by not bringing your own team and going tolo into FW you lower the chance of your team being organised making it no longer equal. you CHOSE weather or not your bringing organised squad, it isnt random its literally your choice by your account of how probability works nobody in the game should have a win/loss ratio over 1/1 but thats not true we have people with winn lose ratios of over 1 and well under 1 now if you average EVERY player on BOTH teams then the average is 1, but if you only average one team (say amaar fac war only) then the math no longer works. bionary desisions like that dont work. look at this this way, tommorow one of two things could happen to you, you could either live through the day, or die before the day is done. that DOES NOT mean you have a 50% chance of dieing tommorow. MATH DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT It is guaranteed that 1 team WILL win and 1 team WILL lose. I will be on ONE of the TWO teams and therefore have a 50% chance of being assigned to the WINNING team. It is not guaranteed that I WILL live tomorrow or I WILL die tomorrow. you do NOT have a 50% chance of being assigned to the winning team that 50% number assumes ALL things are equal, and they arnt. for instance, your not organising a squad and almost everyone elsee is, so technically your going to have a higher chance of being on the unorganised team simply by being unorganised. thats not how statistics, probability and math work. bionary options are NEVER 50/50 not even a coin flip due to the entropy principal This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If "almost everyone else is" organizing a squad, then the other 15 members on my team would basically be organized into squads, or at least have the same chance as 15 members on the opposing team being organized into squads. ISK Trader channel: blitz
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2386	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:41:00 - [40] - Quote Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Clone D wrote: There is an equal chance that the team that I will be assigned to has organized squads, as the opposing team having organized squads. It is random and by chance I should at least end up on a team with the advantage 50% of the time. That is not happening. THERE IS NOT AN EQUAL CHANCE by not bringing your own team and going tolo into FW you lower the chance of your team being organised making it no longer equal. you CHOSE weather or not your bringing organised squad, it isnt random its literally your choice by your account of how probability works nobody in the game should have a win/loss ratio over 1/1 but thats not true we have people with winn lose ratios of over 1 and well under 1 now if you average EVERY player on BOTH teams then the average is 1, but if you only average one team (say amaar fac war only) then the math no longer works. bionary desisions like that dont work. look at this this way, tommorow one of two things could happen to you, you could either live through the day, or die before the day is done. that DOES NOT mean you have a 50% chance of dieing tommorow. MATH DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT It is guaranteed that 1 team WILL win and 1 team WILL lose. I will be on ONE of the TWO teams and therefore have a 50% chance of being assigned to the WINNING team. It is not guaranteed that I WILL live tomorrow or I WILL die tomorrow. you do NOT have a 50% chance of being assigned to the winning team that 50% number assumes ALL things are equal, and they arnt. for instance, your not organising a squad and almost everyone elsee is, so technically your going to have a higher chance of being on the unorganised team simply by being unorganised. thats not how statistics, probability and math work. bionary options are NEVER 50/50 not even a coin flip due to the entropy principal This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If "almost everyone else is" organizing a squad, then the other 15 members on my team would basically be organized into squads, or at least have the same chance as 15 members on the opposing team being organized into squads. they do not have the same chance because YOU BEING THERE lowers the chancee of your team being organised becuas eyour chosing to be disorganised lowering your teams odds of sucess. this game isnt bassed on luck its bassed in skill. your actions directly contribute to winning or losing and therefore yoru actions determin weather you win or lose... your losing becuase your assuming other people will carry you, but by having to carry you your team has a higher chance of losing. its not 50% it would onlly be 50% if EVERY action in the game was determined by a coin flip, and even then deviation would occur becuase there is no such thing as random. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost

Clone D Grundstein Automation 931	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:42:00 - [41] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: bionary options are NEVER 50/50 not even a coin flip due to the entropy principal functions may draw close to an asymptote, and we use the normal line as a description of the value that the function is approaching. No, it's not exactly 50/50, but I don't have the data to be more precise. It is good enough to say that it is theoretically close to 50/50. ISK Trader channel: blitz
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1712	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:44:00 - [42] - Quote Clone D wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Clone D wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're stupid aren't you? Or you didn't get through math or probability in grade 7. I have displayed the probability above. You have displayed nothing of quantitative significance. No, you have actually brought nothing quantative to the table. Nothing you've said is substantiated. I could go back to the discussions about mu matchmaking and reference that stuff. Your numbers are pulled out of nowhere. If you won't accept what the majority of people who do understand this are telling you there's no point in continuing this conversation. There is information conformity and normative conformity. You have not convinced me of anything by the "information" that you have shared. I will not accept what the majority of people think, because the majority of people are usually not thinking clearly. I don't have the actual data on CCPs servers, so I can't tell you what percentage of the time each faction wins, and therefore I can't investigate the behaviors that contribute to the statistical evidence, so we have to work with theory here. The theory has been stated above, and we can drill into it further if you need to. Feel free to persist in being wrong if you want to. Normally people who come up with a hypothesis on how something works and see it demonstrated to be wrong re-evaluate their hypothesis. Facts are your 'belief' on how it should work isn't matching the data you've witnessed. Your belief is empirically wrong. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2386	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:45:00 - [43] - Quote Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: bionary options are NEVER 50/50 not even a coin flip due to the entropy principal functions may draw close to an asymptote, and we use the normal line as a description of the value that the function is approaching. No, it's not exactly 50/50, but I don't have the data to be more precise. It is good enough to say that it is theoretically close to 50/50. no you do not have a 50% chance of dieing tommorow just because the only two options are live and die, therefore you dont have a 50% chance of winning your next match based on the same math. you really arnt understanding the core reason why your math is broken... Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Clone D Grundstein Automation 931	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:47:00 - [44] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: they do not have the same chance because YOU BEING THERE lowers the chancee of your team being organised becuas eyour chosing to be disorganised lowering your teams odds of sucess. this game isnt bassed on luck its bassed in skill. your actions directly contribute to winning or losing and therefore yoru actions determin weather you win or lose... your losing becuase your assuming other people will carry you, but by having to carry you your team has a higher chance of losing. its not 50% it would onlly be 50% if EVERY action in the game was determined by a coin flip, and even then deviation would occur becuase there is no such thing as random. You're not using the information provided. I already said that I'm finishing top 3. I am a key contributor to the team. I said 15/16 because that removes me from the equation. Take me away and take away one player from the other team, and you have an equal chance of either team having organized squads. ISK Trader channel: blitz
Clone D Grundstein Automation 931	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:48:00 - [45] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: bionary options are NEVER 50/50 not even a coin flip due to the entropy principal functions may draw close to an asymptote, and we use the normal line as a description of the value that the function is approaching. No, it's not exactly 50/50, but I don't have the data to be more precise. It is good enough to say that it is theoretically close to 50/50. no you do not have a 50% chance of dieing tommorow just because the only two options are live and die, therefore you dont have a 50% chance of winning your next match based on the same math. you really arnt understanding the core reason why your math is broken... Show me by means of syllogism or mathematical proof where my logic is broken. Until then, I will assume that it is fine. ISK Trader channel: blitz
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1712	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:49:00 - [46] - Quote Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: they do not have the same chance because YOU BEING THERE lowers the chancee of your team being organised becuas eyour chosing to be disorganised lowering your teams odds of sucess. this game isnt bassed on luck its bassed in skill. your actions directly contribute to winning or losing and therefore yoru actions determin weather you win or lose... your losing becuase your assuming other people will carry you, but by having to carry you your team has a higher chance of losing. its not 50% it would onlly be 50% if EVERY action in the game was determined by a coin flip, and even then deviation would occur becuase there is no such thing as random. You're not using the information provided. I already said that I'm finishing top 3. I am a key contributor to the team. I said 15/16 because that removes me from the equation. Take me away and take away one player from the other team, and you have an equal chance of either team having organized squads. No, you don't. But lets follow this trail of stupidity to its end. What makes you believe that you have an equal chance of either team having organized squads? Remember to show the reasons for why you believe this. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Clone D Grundstein Automation 931	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:51:00 - [47] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Clone D wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Clone D wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're stupid aren't you? Or you didn't get through math or probability in grade 7. I have displayed the probability above. You have displayed nothing of quantitative significance. No, you have actually brought nothing quantative to the table. Nothing you've said is substantiated. I could go back to the discussions about mu matchmaking and reference that stuff. Your numbers are pulled out of nowhere. If you won't accept what the majority of people who do understand this are telling you there's no point in continuing this conversation. There is information conformity and normative conformity. You have not convinced me of anything by the "information" that you have shared. I will not accept what the majority of people think, because the majority of people are usually not thinking clearly. I don't have the actual data on CCPs servers, so I can't tell you what percentage of the time each faction wins, and therefore I can't investigate the behaviors that contribute to the statistical evidence, so we have to work with theory here. The theory has been stated above, and we can drill into it further if you need to. Feel free to persist in being wrong if you want to. Normally people who come up with a hypothesis on how something works and see it demonstrated to be wrong re-evaluate their hypothesis. Facts are your 'belief' on how it should work isn't matching the data you've witnessed. Your belief is empirically wrong. That's why I would like complete transparency on how the FW team building algorithm works from the DEVS. If I had that, then I could better model the situation and develop more informed decisions. As far as I know, your responses are mere speculation. ISK Trader channel: blitz
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact 6279	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:51:00 - [48] - Quote On a side note, people with rank 10 in there faction should get unlimited consequence free team killing. NEG1 21 Day EVE Trial PC, ISK, EVE, Corp & Other Services
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1712	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:52:00 - [49] - Quote Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: bionary options are NEVER 50/50 not even a coin flip due to the entropy principal functions may draw close to an asymptote, and we use the normal line as a description of the value that the function is approaching. No, it's not exactly 50/50, but I don't have the data to be more precise. It is good enough to say that it is theoretically close to 50/50. no you do not have a 50% chance of dieing tommorow just because the only two options are live and die, therefore you dont have a 50% chance of winning your next match based on the same math. you really arnt understanding the core reason why your math is broken... Show me by means of syllogism or mathematical proof where my logic is broken. Until then, I will assume that it is fine. Oh, we have a misunderstanding of the burden of proof here. It's up to you to provide reasonable grounds for belief that your information is correct before we have to attempt to disprove it. No one gets to say "THERE'S A TEACUP ORBITING THE SUN RIGHT NOW, PROVE ME WRONG **ERS! OH WAIT YOU CANT" because they need to provide reasonable grounds to others for them to believe that there might actually be a teacup orbiting the sun. You're not debating in good faith and are instead descending to even lower and lower depths of insane troll 'logic'. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2386	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:52:00 - [50] - Quote Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: they do not have the same chance because YOU BEING THERE lowers the chancee of your team being organised becuas eyour chosing to be disorganised lowering your teams odds of sucess. this game isnt bassed on luck its bassed in skill. your actions directly contribute to winning or losing and therefore yoru actions determin weather you win or lose... your losing becuase your assuming other people will carry you, but by having to carry you your team has a higher chance of losing. its not 50% it would onlly be 50% if EVERY action in the game was determined by a coin flip, and even then deviation would occur becuase there is no such thing as random. You're not using the information provided. I already said that I'm finishing top 3. I am a key contributor to the team. I said 15/16 because that removes me from the equation. Take me away and take away one player from the other team, and you have an equal chance of either team having organized squads. you dont have an equal chance of having organised squads though... because you specifically lwoer that chance by not brining them. ITS NOT RANDOM and therefore its not a 50/50 coin flip. YOU specifically chosee how you want to modify that percentage, you chosee yto be unorganiseed and therefore you have a lower percentage of people on your team with the ppotential to be organised, couple that with the fact that once a person does chosee to be organised they automatically bring in 1-5 other organised people. meaning its an exponential increase in odds of success for every 1 person that choses to be organised, so by having 1 person make that choice their odds of sucess increase exponentially, and by YOU choseing NOT to be organised your odds of sucess decrease exponentially. you making that choice reemoves that randomness fromt he equation as it starts you off aat a negative value before all other factors are in place. a rough math out of it in my head based on a linier equation reduses your chance of winning by aproximatly 5% just by you exsisting on a team Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost

Clone D Grundstein Automation 931	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:54:00 - [51] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Clone D wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: bionary options are NEVER 50/50 not even a coin flip due to the entropy principal functions may draw close to an asymptote, and we use the normal line as a description of the value that the function is approaching. No, it's not exactly 50/50, but I don't have the data to be more precise. It is good enough to say that it is theoretically close to 50/50. no you do not have a 50% chance of dieing tommorow just because the only two options are live and die, therefore you dont have a 50% chance of winning your next match based on the same math. you really arnt understanding the core reason why your math is broken... Show me by means of syllogism or mathematical proof where my logic is broken. Until then, I will assume that it is fine. Oh, we have a misunderstanding of the burden of proof here. It's up to you to provide reasonable grounds for belief that your information is correct before we have to attempt to disprove it. No one gets to say "THERE'S A TEACUP ORBITING THE SUN RIGHT NOW, PROVE ME WRONG ****ERS! OH WAIT YOU CANT" because they need to provide reasonable grounds to others for them to believe that there might actually be a teacup orbiting the sun. You're not debating in good faith and are instead descending to even lower and lower depths of insane troll 'logic'. I couldn't care less what you believe. If you look at my post, it says "@Devs". I want a description of their algorithm from them. I really don't care what your comprehension level is. ISK Trader channel: blitz
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1712	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:54:00 - [52] - Quote Clone D wrote: That's why I would like complete transparency on how the FW team building algorithm works from the DEVS. If I had that, then I could better model the situation and develop more informed decisions. As far as I know, your responses are mere speculation. You have been referenced as to where you can find more information: The old discussions about MU matchmaking. There were pages of it in which many people lobbied to keep matchmaking out of faction warfare, and responses from devs about how faction warfare would be set up to prefer squads instead of individuals when given the choice. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 97	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:54:00 - [53] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: On a side note, people with rank 10 in there faction should get unlimited consequence free team killing. "BLAM Stop Being terrible blueberries!" ...I both like and dislike this idea XD Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1712	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:57:00 - [54] - Quote Clone D wrote: I couldn't care less what you believe. If you look at my post, it says "@Devs". I want a description of their algorithm from them. I really don't care what your comprehension level is. "waaah only devs can tell me I'm wrong, despite the collective observations of many others and myself!". Revising 'stupid' to 'incredibly **ing dumb' with demonstrably zero understanding of probability. As I asked earlier, please provide reasons for why you think there's a 50/50 chance for either team to have organized squads or not. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact 6279	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:57:00 - [55] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: On a side note, people with rank 10 in there faction should get unlimited consequence free team killing. "BLAM Stop Being terrible blueberries!" ...I both like and dislike this idea XD I'll shoot the stupid out of them. NEG1 21 Day EVE Trial PC, ISK, EVE, Corp & Other Services
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1712	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:58:00 - [56] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: On a side note, people with rank 10 in there faction should get unlimited consequence free team killing. "BLAM Stop Being terrible blueberries!" ...I both like and dislike this idea XD I'll shoot the stupid out of them. Standing 10 would quickly be changed to 'license to troll', which is a terrible thing to hand to people. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 97	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:59:00 - [57] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: On a side note, people with rank 10 in there faction should get unlimited consequence free team killing. "BLAM Stop Being terrible blueberries!" ...I both like and dislike this idea XD I'll shoot the stupid out of them. Understood Commissar Viktor You must raise morale to keep the blueberries from running away (by being more dangerous to them if they run than the enemy) Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2390	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:00:00 - [58] - Quote PROOF by your math there are two options win and lose. so you have a 50% chance of winning because winning is 50% of the available outicomes calculating on number of outcomes 100% devided by 2 (total options devided by number of options) so y using that formula 100% (chance of something happening) devided by (number of potential things that can happen) = (the odds of that happening) so lets usee that equation of yours for something else and see how it works out lottery, you with win or you lose 100%/ (win+lose=2) = 50% chance of winning the lottery every time you play living, you either you live through the next (insert amount of tiime here) or you die in the next (insert amount of time here) only two possable outcomes so 100/2=50% chance of dieing in (insert amount of time here) THATS the equation your using, and CLEARLY it doesnt apply to anything else in a logical manner if you apply this equation YOUR usiing to ANY other situation it doesnt work out to whats REALLY going to happen. thats your proof its broken, it doesnt function based on its own rules. inaddition by your equation EVERY PLAYER in the game should have a win loss ratio of 1 because everyone hass 2 options win or lose at 50%, and therefore everyone should have a win loss ratio of 1 based on YOUR equation. but they dont. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact 6279	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:00:00 - [59] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: On a side note, people with rank 10 in there faction should get unlimited consequence free team killing. "BLAM Stop Being terrible blueberries!" ...I both like and dislike this idea XD I'll shoot the stupid out of them. Standing 10 would quickly be changed to 'license to troll', which is a terrible thing to hand to people. Amarr can't get any worse, the only problem would for minmatar. so im fine with that. NEG1 21 Day EVE Trial PC, ISK, EVE, Corp & Other Services
Clone D Grundstein Automation 931	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:07:00 - [60] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Clone D wrote: I couldn't care less what you believe. If you look at my post, it says "@Devs". I want a description of their algorithm from them. I really don't care what your comprehension level is. "waaah only devs can tell me I'm wrong, despite the collective observations of many others and myself!". Revising 'stupid' to 'incredibly ***ing dumb' with demonstrably zero understanding of probability. As I asked earlier, please provide reasons for why you think there's a 50/50 chance for either team to have organized squads or not. Because I don't have the data, I will generate a hypothetical situation. Here's a simple one for you. Assume 66% of all FW players squad up and that this percentage is distributed equally between the four factions. 66% of Amarr FW players squad up 66% of Minmatar FW players squad up 66% of Gallente FW players squad up 66% of Caldari FW players squad up If Team A is Amarr and Team B is Minmatar then they both share the same chance of 15/16 players on their team being squadded up: 66% 15 Players = 10 Squadded players on Team A 66% * 15 Players = 10 Squadded players on Team B That leaves 1 player left on each team: 1 is me, the other can be a squadded or solo player on the other team. Your argument is that organized teams win. As long as there is an equal distribution of percentage of players who squad up in each faction, then there is an equal chance of either side having organized players. The fact that I play solo is only a minor discrepancy in the exact 50/50 ratio in this hypothetical example. ISK Trader channel: blitz



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