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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2991	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:30:00 - [1] - Quote I see no balancing effort in the patch notes...when can I expect to not have my boundless CR out DPSed and out ranged by a basic full auto weapon? "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6045	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:36:00 - [2] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I see no balancing effort in the patch notes...when can I expect to not have my boundless CR out DPSed and out ranged by a basic full auto weapon? +1 The Breach AR needs a RANGE nerf. Thats all. Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
loumanchew Ametat Security Amarr Empire 186	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:38:00 - [3] - Quote I would just put a recoil when using it while scoping.
Jack 3enimble Titans of Phoenix 500	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:46:00 - [4] - Quote The RR complaints were legit and so are the BAR complaints.
hfderrtgvcd 1417	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:48:00 - [5] - Quote Its ******* obnoxious how powerful this thing is. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3766	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:50:00 - [6] - Quote I imagine balance related issues will be confined to Hotfixes, where as features that require client updates will be part of the major updates. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 514	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:53:00 - [7] - Quote lol it's broken. Only loyal to the republic.
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1604	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:07:00 - [8] - Quote I'm going to spam it with 4 complex damage mods for as long as I can, if I didn't have such a squishy suit it would feel like cheating, sometimes it kind of still does though DUST VIDEOS
Valor Goat 13	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:11:00 - [9] - Quote Range-damage nerf plus putting some goddamn recoil on it and we have a deal. 1EE7
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2400	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:15:00 - [10] - Quote The CR and the BrAR both deserve nerfs. So there, Gav! :)


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 12646	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:32:00 - [11] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I imagine balance related issues will be confined to Hotfixes, where as features that require client updates will be part of the major updates. You imagined right "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2994	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:34:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I imagine balance related issues will be confined to Hotfixes, where as features that require client updates will be part of the major updates. You imagined right So will the BrAR be balanced soon...? Its kinda removing the fun in the game having the "One weapon to rule them all". "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6299	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:35:00 - [13] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I see no balancing effort in the patch notes...when can I expect to not have my boundless CR out DPSed and out ranged by a basic full auto weapon? +1 The Breach AR needs a RANGE nerf. Thats all. (Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p you are OBVIOUSLY exaggerating XD) Gav would never exaggerate... Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2994	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:37:00 - [14] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: The CR and the BrAR both deserve nerfs. So there, Gav! :) Eh, CR can't scratch shield. BrAR annihilates armor. Its the same reason the ScR isn't that OP....its worse for shield suits than the CR is on armor, but really stops working against super tanked heavies. Though armor does seem to register hits better than shields in general... "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2994	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:38:00 - [15] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I see no balancing effort in the patch notes...when can I expect to not have my boundless CR out DPSed and out ranged by a basic full auto weapon? +1 The Breach AR needs a RANGE nerf. Thats all. (Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p you are OBVIOUSLY exaggerating XD) Gav would never exaggerate... Who, me? "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 445	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:45:00 - [16] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: The CR and the BrAR both deserve nerfs. So there, Gav! :) Eh, CR can't scratch shield. BrAR annihilates armor. Its the same reason the ScR isn't that OP....its worse for shield suits than the CR is on armor, but really stops working against super tanked heavies. Though armor does seem to register hits better than shields in general... Grav - you know that isn't true The CR is arguably the most powerful rifle in the game. After the BrAR gets fixed it will be hands down the most powerful rifle in the game. Exaggerating the case will just get the BrAR NOT fixed.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4160	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:58:00 - [17] - Quote If the BAR gets nerfed then I better see the AScR/ACR/ARR get nerfed. Literally everyone of those weapons is out performing the AR in its intended range. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Frost Kitty Ancient Exiles. 153	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:05:00 - [18] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: If the BAR gets nerfed then I better see the AScR/ACR/ARR get nerfed. Literally everyone of those weapons is out performing the AR in its intended range. OR... or we could just buff the ar slightly. it isn't underperforming by very much, it just needs a small damage increase... probably... Meow
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2999	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:08:00 - [19] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: The CR and the BrAR both deserve nerfs. So there, Gav! :) Eh, CR can't scratch shield. BrAR annihilates armor. Its the same reason the ScR isn't that OP....its worse for shield suits than the CR is on armor, but really stops working against super tanked heavies. Though armor does seem to register hits better than shields in general... Grav - you know that isn't true The CR is arguably the most powerful rifle in the game. After the BrAR gets fixed it will be hands down the most powerful rifle in the game. Exaggerating the case will just get the BrAR NOT fixed. Not at all. BrAR has 0 kick and perfect hit detection, is full auto, and fires forever. And less than 100 less DPS than the CR fired at max RoF, which is pretty hard to do without a modded controller. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
fragmentedhackslash Titans of Phoenix 318	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:11:00 - [20] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Imp Smash wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: The CR and the BrAR both deserve nerfs. So there, Gav! :) Eh, CR can't scratch shield. BrAR annihilates armor. Its the same reason the ScR isn't that OP....its worse for shield suits than the CR is on armor, but really stops working against super tanked heavies. Though armor does seem to register hits better than shields in general... Grav - you know that isn't true The CR is arguably the most powerful rifle in the game. After the BrAR gets fixed it will be hands down the most powerful rifle in the game. Exaggerating the case will just get the BrAR NOT fixed. Not at all. BrAR has 0 kick and perfect hit detection, is full auto, and fires forever. And less than 100 less DPS than the CR fired at max RoF, which is pretty hard to do without a modded controller. Not only is it full auto, you can ALSO over tap that BAR to increase it's fire rate. This is a good thing, however the BAR being about 4% too powerful results in TacAR and AR being negated. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.

Tonka Legacy Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 135	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:15:00 - [21] - Quote well, by the sounds of it, they are gonna nerf the gun I waited so long for a buff for. At least buff the regular AR's range a bit, im not too fond of the RR or SCR. Sentinel: I am heavy weapons guy... Commando: I got a RR and a CR, Im so good. Logi: In it 4 the points and points only.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 356	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:23:00 - [22] - Quote Funniest thing is that everyone told Rattati that this 14% increased damage was a bit too much when he first talked about it. But he said it'll just be at the same lvl as the normal AR. Lmao. Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be. Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
Mex-0 180	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:34:00 - [23] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: The CR and the BrAR both deserve nerfs. So there, Gav! :) The CR? I didn't know it was OP.... It feels pretty balanced for me Meh, I give up on FW.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 637	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:00:00 - [24] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Funniest thing is that everyone told Rattati that this 14% increased damage was a bit too much when he first talked about it. But he said it'll just be at the same lvl as the normal AR. Lmao. Problem is I imagine Rattatai didn't account for the god awful hit detection in this game. In reality you lose a lot of DPS everytime the server has to recognize one of your bits of damage. Although dps wise the BAR is on par with the AR, the fact that less shots have to be counted to achieve said amount of damage = less skull freakery from the game engine.
Zaria Min Deir TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 887	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:18:00 - [25] - Quote Valor Goat wrote: Range-damage nerf plus putting some goddamn recoil on it and we have a deal. Really, nerf it in every aspect that matters? So we can go back to Gallente rifles being entirely irrelevant again? No deal. Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
fragmentedhackslash Titans of Phoenix 320	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:24:00 - [26] - Quote Zaria Min Deir wrote: Valor Goat wrote: Range-damage nerf plus putting some goddamn recoil on it and we have a deal. Really, nerf it in every aspect that matters? So we can go back to Gallente rifles being entirely irrelevant again? No deal. Not nerf all above, just a slight back-adjustment would suffice imho. I don't run stats, I run feel, that BAR feels 4-8% too powerful in damage. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
STABBEY Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 522	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:28:00 - [27] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I imagine balance related issues will be confined to Hotfixes, where as features that require client updates will be part of the major updates. You imagined right So will the BrAR be balanced soon...? Its kinda removing the fun in the game having the "One weapon to rule them all". It's not going to get balanced its gonna get nerfed into the ground like the AR and TACAR did. AR users are a dieing breed when they were nerfed into the ground the first time is when a HUGE chunk of CB vets bailed. Without AR's wtf is the point of an assault suit? Boringgg -ASSAULT AR user since closed beta. The other classes are boring to me. Go ahead and nerf us to hell again we'll just quit for another year until you bring the assaults back again. Gÿú GÖ¦ Gÿñ Gäó © sç+(¬GÇ+¬)sç+ (-éGîú¦Ç_Gîú¦ü)ßòñ Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ-Vet-GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ+¦Gû¼Gû¼ +¬(GùÅ¦«¦âGÇó)¦¦ (GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ (a+ç'¦Ç-'¦ü)a+ç GöîGê¬GöÉ(Gùú_Gùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ
Beast gameplay1 jr WarRavens Capital Punishment. 4	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:30:00 - [28] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: The CR and the BrAR both deserve nerfs. So there, Gav! :) Eh, CR can't scratch shield. BrAR annihilates armor. Its the same reason the ScR isn't that OP....its worse for shield suits than the CR is on armor, but really stops working against super tanked heavies. Though armor does seem to register hits better than shields in general... Grav - you know that isn't true The CR is arguably the most powerful rifle in the game. After the BrAR gets fixed it will be hands down the most powerful rifle in the game. Exaggerating the case will just get the BrAR NOT fixed. There is a lot more powerful weapons than the cr the Bar does need a nerf when I had ceodron breach ar took out some ppl in 6 bullets
Beast gameplay1 jr WarRavens Capital Punishment. 4	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:31:00 - [29] - Quote Beast gameplay1 jr wrote: Imp Smash wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: The CR and the BrAR both deserve nerfs. So there, Gav! :) Eh, CR can't scratch shield. BrAR annihilates armor. Its the same reason the ScR isn't that OP....its worse for shield suits than the CR is on armor, but really stops working against super tanked heavies. Though armor does seem to register hits better than shields in general... Grav - you know that isn't true The CR is arguably the most powerful rifle in the game. After the BrAR gets fixed it will be hands down the most powerful rifle in the game. Exaggerating the case will just get the BrAR NOT fixed. There is a lot more powerful weapons than the cr the Bar does need a nerf when I had ceodron breach ar took out some ppl in 6 bullets But the duvolle should be a bit more powerful and more range
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2404	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:37:00 - [30] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: The CR and the BrAR both deserve nerfs. So there, Gav! :) Eh, CR can't scratch shield. BrAR annihilates armor. ... CR: -15/+15 & AR: +10/-10 One "can't scratch" and another "annihilates? Sorry, but I'm not sure we're going to agree about that, brother.



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