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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
438
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:18:00 -
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With the scanning table the minja just got another leg up for knifing
With how lag effects tacnet the minja can get I. For the kill before they show up on tacnet while other less agile scouts will have a harder time.
Or am I missing something???
I know my minja can use all the help it can get
So mad I could eat a chimichanga, swallow a marble, chug a quafe, bend over, fart, and drop an amarian from 100 meters..
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
6034
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:20:00 -
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CCP im still waiting for my Amarr sword...
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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Patrilicus
Trash Bucket
83
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:44:00 -
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I'm working on my minja suit now so I'd like to know too..
Garbage Day!
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
438
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:46:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:CCP im still waiting for my Amarr sword... You amarian scouts are so slow you need broad sword
So mad I could eat a chimichanga, swallow a marble, chug a quafe, bend over, fart, and drop an amarian from 100 meters..
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
6038
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:51:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:CCP im still waiting for my Amarr sword... You amarian scouts are so slow you need broad sword
But we are so strong we dont even need it to be sharp. Just let me swing something around and smash minnies to a pulp with the hate of my broadswoard,.... XD
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
439
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:54:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bright Steel wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:CCP im still waiting for my Amarr sword... You amarian scouts are so slow you need broad sword But we are so strong we dont even need it to be sharp. Just let me swing something around and smash minnies to a pulp with the hate of my broadswoard,.... XD A big golden Thor hammer of the gods/empress
So mad I could eat a chimichanga, swallow a marble, chug a quafe, bend over, fart, and drop an amarian from 100 meters..
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
13499
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:57:00 -
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Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
439
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop How does scouts in general benefit?
So mad I could eat a chimichanga, swallow a marble, chug a quafe, bend over, fart, and drop an amarian from 100 meters..
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
13500
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:06:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop How does scouts in general benefit? Honestly? Not much.
But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
439
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:10:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop How does scouts in general benefit? Honestly? Not much. But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick. I was thinking that with the extra range and close in precision mediums and commandos might be tempted to run percision to catch that scout, this forcing the scout to damp and loose the hp, which would remove a lot of slayer scouts.
So mad I could eat a chimichanga, swallow a marble, chug a quafe, bend over, fart, and drop an amarian from 100 meters..
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15334
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:23:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:CCP im still waiting for my Amarr sword...
Thal sits on his knees praying for that thing every day....... if the Amarr did get a CQC weapon and it was anything but a sword....... I honestly don't know what he'd do.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
13500
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:36:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop How does scouts in general benefit? Honestly? Not much. But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick. I was thinking that with the extra range and close in precision mediums and commandos might be tempted to run percision to catch that scout, this forcing the scout to damp and loose the hp, which would remove a lot of slayer scouts. 6m? Really? You expect that to matter? The original was 12m.
Not to mention the medium range and long range weren't pathetic, so an EWAR game within the medium frames themselves could develop. And sentinel spam would get a slight nerf as they wouldn't be able to sneak into an Assault's scanners without triple dampening.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
440
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:50:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop How does scouts in general benefit? Honestly? Not much. But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick. I was thinking that with the extra range and close in precision mediums and commandos might be tempted to run percision to catch that scout, this forcing the scout to damp and loose the hp, which would remove a lot of slayer scouts. 6m? Really? You expect that to matter? The original was 12m. Not to mention the medium range and long range weren't pathetic, so an EWAR game within the medium frames themselves could develop. And sentinel spam would get a slight nerf as they wouldn't be able to sneak into an Assault's scanners without triple dampening. Thinking of the scout on the other side of the wall getting scanned and especially with logi running percision and rang??? I can see EWAR variations becoming viable, even if not the "best"
So mad I could eat a chimichanga, swallow a marble, chug a quafe, bend over, fart, and drop an amarian from 100 meters..
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6291
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:03:00 -
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Not really.
If anything, this will be an ever so slight nerf, possibly barely or unnoticeable.
Reason being is that for most of the range, Long and Medium, things will remain the same.
At short range, will will be 6 m before any range changes, they will be able to see you (can't possibly dodge all scans now, depending on their EWAR mods).
In some instances, this won't hurt a thing.
In others, like when you are taking on a moving target from behind and miss, you just popped up on their radar. Some people are already aware enough to hear you, others aren't.
I don't think the problem will be so much that it will be noticeable.
Not to mention, that shotgun scouts that used to ambush us will be in the same boat.
All this assumes you run a dampened knife fit. If you don't dampen, you may have a significantly harder time, which is fine really.
I just hope we aren't forced to rely on that POS cloak anymore.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2636
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:27:00 -
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Cal scout got unnecessarily nerfed yet againGǪ
Dust is there! I was real!
Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6291
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:29:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Cal scout got unnecessarily nerfed yet againGǪ But according to Rattati the data has shown they are over performing.
So they needed to be nerfed yet again.
Gal really need to be brought in line with the rest of us though.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Varoth Drac
Titans of Phoenix
433
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Honestly? Not much.
But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick.
Really Cat?
I know it wasn't as much as you wanted, but consider this, ignoring the short range scans (which is a small scout nerf by the way):
Assaults: Range - buff Profile - buff Precison - buff
Scouts: Precision - nerfed beyond 15m Direction arrow removal - more of a nerf to scouts than other suits
Min scout buff? = no
Not saying it will necessarily fix everything, or that it won't cause more issues, we will have to see. However, you can't say scouts got buffed and ignore the assault buffs. |
Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2636
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:44:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Cal scout got unnecessarily nerfed yet againGǪ But according to Rattati the data has shown they are over performing. So they needed to be nerfed yet again. Gal really need to be brought in line with the rest of us though. Nerfed? Yes. I agree that some change could is needed (if only by the data points since I don't see a huge problem with them (hint hint, use a scrambler rifle)).
But this is the wrong nerf, imo.
I'd rather see them lose their dampening bonus for a precision bonus (not as high as the Amarr's unless they sacrifice a lot of highs) while keeping their range bonus (and moving scout's base range to 25-30m), on top of removing passive scan chevrons from the HUD, only displaying them on the mini-map.
Dust is there! I was real!
Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
442
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Posted - 2014.12.02 23:08:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Honestly? Not much.
But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick. Really Cat? I know it wasn't as much as you wanted, but consider this, ignoring the short range scans (which is a small scout nerf by the way): Assaults: Range - buff Profile - buff Precison - buff Scouts: Precision - nerfed beyond 15m Direction arrow removal - more of a nerf to scouts than other suits Min scout buff? = no Not saying it will necessarily fix everything, or that it won't cause more issues, we will have to see. However, you can't say scouts got buffed and ignore the assault buffs. with lag the tacnet doesn't always update quickly enough... i have had heavies shoot my minja point blank when rounding a corner that never showed up on tacnet...
the speed tanked minja could get into rang to knife before they showed on the tacnet eliminating at least part of the ewar disparity. considering lag, speed tank gives you an additional benefit, and the minja is "the" speed tanker and thus a minja buff, however so slightly...
So mad I could eat a chimichanga, swallow a marble, chug a quafe, bend over, fart, and drop an amarian from 100 meters..
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
12638
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Posted - 2014.12.02 23:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop How does scouts in general benefit? Honestly? Not much. But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick.
I 100% disagree with that statement.
These are numbers that CCP and CPM worked on based on all the feedback we were given.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1263
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Posted - 2014.12.02 23:38:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:CCP im still waiting for my Amarr spear...
FTFY
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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fragmentedhackslash
Titans of Phoenix
318
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Posted - 2014.12.03 00:52:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop How does scouts in general benefit? Honestly? Not much. But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick. I 100% disagree with that statement. These are numbers that CCP and CPM worked on based on all the feedback we were given.
A brief history of Minmatar...
It took 2 years for anyone to believe me about stun-lock. Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised, I sat silent.
It took 2 years for anyone to believe me that Minmatar scout role bonus needed to be hacking. Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised. I sat silent.
It took 2 years for anyone to believe me that Minmatar assaults needed to be buffed HP. Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised. I sat silent.
It took 2 years for anyone to believe me that Minmatar logistics needed a repair tool role bonus. Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised. I sat silent.
It only took 8 months for anyone to believe me that the.Combat rifle was being shat upon by a broken rail rifle range table (combined with stun lock). Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised. I sat silent.
I still say Minmatar scout trade off of speed over ANY E-war is completely the wrong move. Why? because the instant ANY player migrates off their local region Automatic, they instantly get slowed in frame rub speed by an approximate 8% anyway. Yes I'm deadly serious. No one realises this.
I still say Minmatar logistics (considering the $380,000 isk it costs for a PC logibro suit) as THE logibro suit needs to have the same and or equilivent HP balancing that thr Min Assault recieved.
I still say Minmatar assaults need a very slight onboard armour repair increase because anything GAL can stack the **** out of armour based modules not because of racial traits but because of thst 1 extra low slot.
I still say Minmatar vechials. Any, just any of them. Hell the AUR MYRON is STILL broken. God damn. It's ok because the Logistics Dropships were just simply deleted --- #smh
I still say Minmatar Precision Sniper Rifle with explosive rounds and bipod.
I still say the entire range table of REAL WORLD VALUES divided by 4 = DUST range table equivelents, means that a sniper rifle (I do understand why it was cut, thanks Kane you POS , it has nothing to do with small maps at all!!!) is 80% less effective then it should be, and that shot guns range table of 25m x 4 = 100m Real world value, desperatly needs to be fixed, because if the SR gets cut to shreads then why hasnt the SG had the same adjustment.
I still say AFK isk farming closed Oceanic, and the exact same thing continues to this day on Tokyo automatic and the endemic negligence to fix this is appauling.
So, it's not necessarily a matter of listening to the whole community, taking on board and being open minded about a wide view is one thing but disregarding or even the lack of approaching some parts of the community, mainly those who can't stand to post on the forums because 90% of the conubity here is plainly retarted is another thing altogether.
Ask around, Minmatar have been segregated across the board ever since day one.
~frag out.
I sit silent and wait, once again.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4693
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Posted - 2014.12.03 01:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:CCP im still waiting for my Amarr sword... Thal sits on his knees praying for that thing every day....... if the Amarr did get a CQC weapon and it was anything but a sword....... I honestly don't know what he'd do. Am I the only Amarrian that wants power gloves? Because I honestly just want to see a full metal gauntlet send a body 20m
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Lynn Beck
Delta Vanguard 6
2312
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Posted - 2014.12.03 01:35:00 -
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Min melee needs to be a Claymore blade, Amarr can get a fancy dagger or Longsword/Rapier.
Im just trying to imagine how scary a Claymore wielding Minja would be...
General John Ripper
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Mex-0
181
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Posted - 2014.12.03 01:40:00 -
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My minja always gets toasted by a full squad of heavies and logis...
Meh, I give up on FW.
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fragmentedhackslash
Titans of Phoenix
318
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Posted - 2014.12.03 01:41:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Min melee needs to be a Claymore blade, Amarr can get a fancy dagger or Longsword/Rapier.
Im just trying to imagine how scary a Claymore wielding Minja would be...
RE.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Mex-0
181
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Posted - 2014.12.03 01:42:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Min melee needs to be a Claymore blade, Amarr can get a fancy dagger or Longsword/Rapier.
Im just trying to imagine how scary a Claymore wielding Minja would be... RE.
*Frisbee minjas
Meh, I give up on FW.
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fragmentedhackslash
Titans of Phoenix
318
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Posted - 2014.12.03 01:45:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Min melee needs to be a Claymore blade, Amarr can get a fancy dagger or Longsword/Rapier.
Im just trying to imagine how scary a Claymore wielding Minja would be... RE. *Frisbee minjas
I love playing catch the RE.
I don't love playing catch the Core grenade.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
792
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Posted - 2014.12.03 01:53:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop How does scouts in general benefit? Honestly? Not much. But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick. I 100% disagree with that statement. These are numbers that CCP and CPM worked on based on all the feedback we were given. R3KT.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
637
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Posted - 2014.12.03 01:54:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Of course it buffed scouts.
Rattati used the barbershop's numbers.
/me prepares to be attacked by the lobbyshop How does scouts in general benefit? Honestly? Not much. But it still keeps them the dominant force along with sentinels, medium frames will not see any use, so business as usual. You see the original numbers at least gave medium frames a reason to use precision enhancer or two, or maybe even a range amp if they felt extra scanny today, but now? Pfft, lolno, leave it to the scouts, everyone else just brick. I 100% disagree with that statement. These are numbers that CCP and CPM worked on based on all the feedback we were given. A brief history of Minmatar... It took 2 years for anyone to believe me about stun-lock. Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised, I sat silent. It took 2 years for anyone to believe me that Minmatar scout role bonus needed to be hacking. Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised. I sat silent. It took 2 years for anyone to believe me that Minmatar assaults needed to be buffed HP. Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised. I sat silent. It took 2 years for anyone to believe me that Minmatar logistics needed a repair tool role bonus. Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised. I sat silent. It only took 8 months for anyone to believe me that the.Combat rifle was being shat upon by a broken rail rifle range table (combined with stun lock). Then it became a huge deal when everyone realised. I sat silent. I still say Minmatar scout trade off of speed over ANY E-war is completely the wrong move. Why? because the instant ANY player migrates off their local region Automatic, they instantly get slowed in frame rub speed by an approximate 8% anyway. Yes I'm deadly serious. No one realises this. I still say Minmatar logistics (considering the $380,000 isk it costs for a PC logibro suit) as THE logibro suit needs to have the same and or equilivent HP balancing that thr Min Assault recieved. I still say Minmatar assaults need a very slight onboard armour repair increase because anything GAL can stack the **** out of armour based modules not because of racial traits but because of thst 1 extra low slot. I still say Minmatar vechials. Any, just any of them. Hell the AUR MYRON is STILL broken. God damn. It's ok because the Logistics Dropships were just simply deleted --- #smh I still say Minmatar Precision Sniper Rifle with explosive rounds and bipod. I still say the entire range table of REAL WORLD VALUES divided by 4 = DUST range table equivelents, means that a sniper rifle (I do understand why it was cut, thanks Kane you POS , it has nothing to do with small maps at all!!!) is 80% less effective then it should be, and that shot guns range table of 25m x 4 = 100m Real world value, desperatly needs to be fixed, because if the SR gets cut to shreads then why hasnt the SG had the same adjustment. I still say AFK isk farming closed Oceanic, and the exact same thing continues to this day on Tokyo automatic and the endemic negligence to fix this is appauling. So, it's not necessarily a matter of listening to the whole community, taking on board and being open minded about a wide view is one thing but disregarding or even the lack of approaching some parts of the community, mainly those who can't stand to post on the forums because 90% of the community here is plainly retarted is another thing altogether. Ask around, Minmatar have been segregated across the board ever since day one. ~frag out. I sit silent and wait, once again. #edit: Fat thumbs = spelling mistakes
**** if you think minmitar logis are bad you should try a Caldari Logi. Those suits have literally the worst e/hp totals of any medium suit in their field, which I guess makes sense since that's typical of Caldari being shield tanks primarily but also consider Caldari logis don't get the base regen that other Caldari suits get. |
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