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Soraya Xel wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Rattati has said he doesn't feel about to some extent to previous promises and obligations made by his predecessors and instead prefers to look into number fixes.....or something along those lines.

I would not say Rattati prefers number fixes over previous content promises. What I would say, is he prefers things that make the game better over previous content promises.

For instance, can anyone theorize what the Amarr and Minmatar MCCs would do to benefit gameplay? Would they make gameplay more fun? I understand there are some racial purists, like True here, but I don't believe in racial parity for racial parity's sake personally. I want game mechanics. I want gameplay.

If something is going to add gameplay that is equal or greater to the cost and time it will take CCP to put it in, let's do it. But if it's just going to add "one more thing" without making the game fun, then it's pointless, and CCP can better use that time and money doing something else.

Just because "something was promised" doesn't mean it's actually the best choice or direction for the game. Especially when it was promised by people who did a terrible job making decisions about the direction for the game. o_o

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Jathniel G I A N T 1282	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:56:00 - [1] - Quote Things we were supposed to get. The Frame system for customized weapons. http://rakshasa.no/downloads/eve/wallpapers/smg_modelsheet1200x2133.jpg Aircraft, the last two MCCs, medium vehicles, and (the last two on the bottom right.... are "bikes"?) http://i.imgur.com/4xNAmjj.png The other melee weapons... http://i.imgur.com/uoQpwnJ.jpg The other tanks and cars... http://newmmorpgames.ru/uploads/posts/2013-06/1370063245_dust-514.png Then there were these guys... http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/f2/09/19/f2091904e87ea5246566bf39b48bc686.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nn8ThFVx-1E/UNpz1SuKVhI/AAAAAAAAAcM/chIi-cPGRxk/s640/dust+514+rogue+drone+2.png Electronic weapon sight (on AR) (something we actually HAD, that was taken away) http://www.gamearthub.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/555_max.jpg But my questions for our Lord and Savior, is if he is aware of just how much was expected of Dust. And, is it reasonable to see ANY of these things come (come back) to Dust? Or are they going to be only for Legion? Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5020	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:57:00 - [2] - Quote Legion. Whenever that happens. My advice to you, playa...
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8566	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:58:00 - [3] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Legion. Whenever that happens. It probably won't happen. I'm willing to bet ISK that Legion is Fubar. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5020	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:03:00 - [4] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: It probably won't happen. I'm willing to bet ISK that Legion is Fubar. Speculation is fun. I'm waiting for fanfest 2015 to make my own judgement. My advice to you, playa...
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 995	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:09:00 - [5] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: It probably won't happen. I'm willing to bet ISK that Legion is Fubar. Speculation is fun. I'm waiting for fanfest 2015 to make my own judgement. Id say legion is in its final proof of concept stage before actual production. Apex suits anyone? Waiting on the green light/red light of fanfest. Please Lone-wolf responsibly. Calling for nerfs because you died is bad, cause its usually your own stupid fault.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 703	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:11:00 - [6] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Things we were supposed to get. The Frame system for customized weapons. http://rakshasa.no/downloads/eve/wallpapers/smg_modelsheet1200x2133.jpg Aircraft, the last two MCCs, medium vehicles, and (the last two on the bottom right.... are "bikes"?) http://i.imgur.com/4xNAmjj.png The other melee weapons... http://i.imgur.com/uoQpwnJ.jpg The other tanks and cars... http://newmmorpgames.ru/uploads/posts/2013-06/1370063245_dust-514.png Then there were these guys... http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/f2/09/19/f2091904e87ea5246566bf39b48bc686.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nn8ThFVx-1E/UNpz1SuKVhI/AAAAAAAAAcM/chIi-cPGRxk/s640/dust+514+rogue+drone+2.png Electronic weapon sight (on AR) (something we actually HAD, that was taken away) http://www.gamearthub.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/555_max.jpg But my questions for our Lord and Savior, is if he is aware of just how much was expected of Dust. And, is it reasonable to see ANY of these things come (come back) to Dust? Or are they going to be only for Legion? Firts we need full racial technology, drones and custom later boyo ;) *"In the rust we trust"*
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 314	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:38:00 - [7] - Quote Well i'm in tears now, i hope your happy. Dat Jetbike man...the humanity GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3850	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:40:00 - [8] - Quote They should redo the design of Minnie knives so that they look like rusty icepicks with duct tape around the handles. If I had a pair of those, then I'd really be shanking reds on the field.
First Prophet Nos Nothi 1955	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:50:00 - [9] - Quote Will we get separate models for logistic and assault suits? Wasn't the recolor thing supposed to be temporary? 'Cause like, the whole recolor to represent the separate roles idea kind of got thrown out the window with all these recolors you're throwing at us now. People find this this review helpful!
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2056	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:54:00 - [10] - Quote Jathniel wrote: The Frame system for customized weapons. http://rakshasa.no/downloads/eve/wallpapers/smg_modelsheet1200x2133.jpg wow.. winmatar soo modular! and DAT SUPPRESSED SMG! [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 382	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:56:00 - [11] - Quote I've seen all those before... If you look at the Rogue Drone, it has a Creodoen Shotgun. If we got a taste of PvE I would quit my Job, Go buy everything in Dust and be happy! I'm kinda glad we never will. *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 331	Posted - 2014.11.21 22:06:00 - [12] - Quote We should be getting the other MCC's and knives in DUST, I honestly can't see why not. That moment when you mow down a proto Caldari assault suit with a militia laser rifle. Words can't describe it.
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 314	Posted - 2014.11.21 22:27:00 - [13] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: We should be getting the other MCC's and knives in DUST, I honestly can't see why not. I know, it's just a 3d model right? I remember thinking " It will surely be in 1.2 " i mean why bother wit lore, races and the whole One universe mallarky when you're a gallente jumping out of a Caldari Mcc, don't get me started on FW. It's a damn shame, thats what it is. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Cass Caul 1678	Posted - 2014.11.21 22:30:00 - [14] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Legion. Whenever that happens. It probably won't happen. I'm willing to bet ISK that Legion is Fubar. Naw, bro. Legion will totally be released, but when UR4 was released they were like "Naw, we don't need a better engine we're totally confindant in our ability to modify UR3 extensively enough that we don't need them to create the new features for us." So it's going to be garbage. It's going to play like Counter-Strike 1.0. It's going to be 15 years behind in graphics and functionality. But it will exist. Just, as a worthless thing that will get more EVE subscribers to drop the game out of disappointment
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14932	Posted - 2014.11.21 22:42:00 - [15] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Things we were supposed to get. The Frame system for customized weapons. http://rakshasa.no/downloads/eve/wallpapers/smg_modelsheet1200x2133.jpg Aircraft, the last two MCCs, medium vehicles, and (the last two on the bottom right.... are "bikes"?) http://i.imgur.com/4xNAmjj.png The other melee weapons... http://i.imgur.com/uoQpwnJ.jpg The other tanks and cars... http://newmmorpgames.ru/uploads/posts/2013-06/1370063245_dust-514.png Then there were these guys... http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/f2/09/19/f2091904e87ea5246566bf39b48bc686.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nn8ThFVx-1E/UNpz1SuKVhI/AAAAAAAAAcM/chIi-cPGRxk/s640/dust+514+rogue+drone+2.png Electronic weapon sight (on AR) (something we actually HAD, that was taken away) http://www.gamearthub.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/555_max.jpg But my questions for our Lord and Savior, is if he is aware of just how much was expected of Dust. And, is it reasonable to see ANY of these things come (come back) to Dust? Or are they going to be only for Legion? Rattati has said he doesn't feel about to some extent to previous promises and obligations made by his predecessors and instead prefers to look into number fixes.....or something along those lines. Sadly however he tweaks and fixes based on the numbers he has and does not have the development power at this time, to my understanding, to push out new content. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4797	Posted - 2014.11.21 22:57:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Rattati has said he doesn't feel about to some extent to previous promises and obligations made by his predecessors and instead prefers to look into number fixes.....or something along those lines. I would not say Rattati prefers number fixes over previous content promises. What I would say, is he prefers things that make the game better over previous content promises. For instance, can anyone theorize what the Amarr and Minmatar MCCs would do to benefit gameplay? Would they make gameplay more fun? I understand there are some racial purists, like True here, but I don't believe in racial parity for racial parity's sake personally. I want game mechanics. I want gameplay. If something is going to add gameplay that is equal or greater to the cost and time it will take CCP to put it in, let's do it. But if it's just going to add "one more thing" without making the game fun, then it's pointless, and CCP can better use that time and money doing something else. Just because "something was promised" doesn't mean it's actually the best choice or direction for the game. Especially when it was promised by people who did a terrible job making decisions about the direction for the game. o_o CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 315	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:04:00 - [17] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: True Adamance wrote: Rattati has said he doesn't feel about to some extent to previous promises and obligations made by his predecessors and instead prefers to look into number fixes.....or something along those lines. I would not say Rattati prefers number fixes over previous content promises. What I would say, is he prefers things that make the game better over previous content promises. For instance, can anyone theorize what the Amarr and Minmatar MCCs would do to benefit gameplay? Would they make gameplay more fun? I understand there are some racial purists, like True here, but I don't believe in racial parity for racial parity's sake personally. I want game mechanics. I want gameplay. If something is going to add gameplay that is equal or greater to the cost and time it will take CCP to put it in, let's do it. But if it's just going to add "one more thing" without making the game fun, then it's pointless, and CCP can better use that time and money doing something else. Just because "something was promised" doesn't mean it's actually the best choice or direction for the game. Especially when it was promised by people who did a terrible job making decisions about the direction for the game. o_o You're absolutely right about putting development time in now. Rattati has bigger fish to fry than a hunk of rust and a Golden GloryVessel in the sky. i agree, but it's still a bit odd that it feels Gallente vs Caldari 514 even with the new weapons and suits. And lets be honest, a little lore or context would not hurt this game at all. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5029	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:36:00 - [18] - Quote Rattati knows about all of this. He has stated that the past is the past and his current stance is that he is under no obligation to fulfill his predecessors promises. Even though it is literally the only thing that can possibly ensure this game has a future. In hindsight, probably not the best stance to take. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14933	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:42:00 - [19] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: True Adamance wrote: Rattati has said he doesn't feel about to some extent to previous promises and obligations made by his predecessors and instead prefers to look into number fixes.....or something along those lines. I would not say Rattati prefers number fixes over previous content promises. What I would say, is he prefers things that make the game better over previous content promises. For instance, can anyone theorize what the Amarr and Minmatar MCCs would do to benefit gameplay? Would they make gameplay more fun? I understand there are some racial purists, like True here, but I don't believe in racial parity for racial parity's sake personally. I want game mechanics. I want gameplay. If something is going to add gameplay that is equal or greater to the cost and time it will take CCP to put it in, let's do it. But if it's just going to add "one more thing" without making the game fun, then it's pointless, and CCP can better use that time and money doing something else. Just because "something was promised" doesn't mean it's actually the best choice or direction for the game. Especially when it was promised by people who did a terrible job making decisions about the direction for the game. o_o I believe you can only attain a true and meaningful sense of balance when all core racial content is in the game. Currently....actually for the past year or so I feel CCP has been pointing the big middle finger at anyone who is not Caldari or Gallente..... moreover I have yet to see CCP Rattati engage veteran vehicle users in a meaningful manner about the development of their role. All he's been doing is pandering to the endless whining of infantry players.....which I have no grief over anymore it's rather clear at this point vehicles are an afterthought. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4797	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:04:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I believe you can only attain a true and meaningful sense of balance when all core racial content is in the game. True: Again, what content does the Amarr and Minmatar MCCs provide? "Racial content" is nonsense, because racial versions in themselves, provide no content. If there are ways they are different from existing versions, then perhaps you have content. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.

Sinboto Simmons Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 6538	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:31:00 - [21] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: True Adamance wrote: I believe you can only attain a true and meaningful sense of balance when all core racial content is in the game. True: Again, what content does the Amarr and Minmatar MCCs provide? "Racial content" is nonsense, because racial versions in themselves, provide no content. If there are ways they are different from existing versions, then perhaps you have content. It's times like this I remember why fancy titles don't make a man. Simply put, the racial content adds to current features in the game, both for gameplay and variety. Weaponry, vehicles, and maps made to be different and unique would hardly be a bane to the community as a whole. While you're so pointedly picking out key phrases in Mr.True's statement you ignore the welcome change such things could bring. And that dear CPM, is the mark of shortsighted fool. Even as I joke and jab I'd very much like for this world to improve, these changes don't need to be immediate, but they are important. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10298	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:49:00 - [22] - Quote That was back when Dust was developed by a different set of teams. Ever since Fanfest 2014, the leadership behind Dust development changed and is now under the care of three people so far: CCP Rattati, CCP Logibro, and CCP Frame as far as I can tell. This means priorities have changed. If we ever do see those nice additions come to the game, I wouldn't bet on them coming any sooner than a few years. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 533	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:52:00 - [23] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: That was back when Dust was developed by a different set of teams. Ever since Fanfest 2014, the leadership behind Dust development changed and is now under the care of three people so far: CCP Rattati, CCP Logibro, and CCP Frame as far as I can tell. This means priorities have changed. If we ever do see those nice additions come to the game, I wouldn't bet on them coming any sooner than a few years. We saw some nice additions in 1.9. Who is to say that more won't follow?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10298	Posted - 2014.11.22 01:02:00 - [24] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: That was back when Dust was developed by a different set of teams. Ever since Fanfest 2014, the leadership behind Dust development changed and is now under the care of three people so far: CCP Rattati, CCP Logibro, and CCP Frame as far as I can tell. This means priorities have changed. If we ever do see those nice additions come to the game, I wouldn't bet on them coming any sooner than a few years. We saw some nice additions in 1.9. Who is to say that more won't follow? I didn't say more won't follow. It's how long it will take for them to get here that I'm wondering. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6068	Posted - 2014.11.22 01:04:00 - [25] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: That was back when Dust was developed by a different set of teams. Ever since Fanfest 2014, the leadership behind Dust development changed and is now under the care of three people so far: CCP Rattati, CCP Logibro, and CCP Frame as far as I can tell. This means priorities have changed. If we ever do see those nice additions come to the game, I wouldn't bet on them coming any sooner than a few years. We saw some nice additions in 1.9. Who is to say that more won't follow? I didn't say more won't follow. It's how long it will take for them to get here that I'm wondering. Soon TM Really, if you think about it, you asked for it. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4797	Posted - 2014.11.22 01:44:00 - [26] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: And that dear CPM, is the mark of shortsighted fool. Shortsighted would be someone who can't get over a presentation from two years ago, and has CCP waste months of effort for minimal to nonexistent gains. I am not saying it would be bad to have them. I am saying it would be a waste of time compared to more beneficial efforts. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Sinboto Simmons Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 6540	Posted - 2014.11.22 02:27:00 - [27] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: And that dear CPM, is the mark of shortsighted fool. Shortsighted would be someone who can't get over a presentation from two years ago, and has CCP waste months of effort for minimal to nonexistent gains. I am not saying it would be bad to have them. I am saying it would be a waste of time compared to more beneficial efforts. You realise that both your cutting out of key statements and general 'brush off' way of communication invites confrontation yes? As previously stated, the additional content would have a positive impact, a larger impact than you seem to believe. Understandable that other features take priorities, smart, but to actively dismiss the past will always lead to even greater problems that could have been avoided in the future. Current situations could be used as an example. Apologies for the hash words, however the previous statement remains true. Progress has been made swiftly, hardly before the ceiling cracked under hail. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4797	Posted - 2014.11.22 02:38:00 - [28] - Quote Perhaps it is not me underestimating the impact, and more you underestimating the required investment. Additionally, nobody in this thread has come up with gameplay benefits to adding any of these things. "New/shiny!" is basically the strategy of the original development. Putting things into the game without any idea how they should work in relation to everything else. (See HAVs, cloaks, etc.) This was dumb. What this thread seems to be asking for, is more of what got DUST into such a bad place to begin with. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 333	Posted - 2014.11.22 02:52:00 - [29] - Quote I don't get why the CPM is so defensive of CCP. Surely asking them to follow through on their promises is appropriate. Not everything needs to have an huge benefit to gameplay, take the new moods for example, they don't enable any "new gameplay" but they do add to immersion and the visual enjoyment of the game, two things which do actually matter and are worth the development time.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1322	Posted - 2014.11.22 02:56:00 - [30] - Quote I like that frame system. I can see how SMG turns into ACR Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)



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