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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:57:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Rattati has said he doesn't feel about to some extent to previous promises and obligations made by his predecessors and instead prefers to look into number fixes.....or something along those lines.
I would not say Rattati prefers number fixes over previous content promises. What I would say, is he prefers things that make the game better over previous content promises.
For instance, can anyone theorize what the Amarr and Minmatar MCCs would do to benefit gameplay? Would they make gameplay more fun? I understand there are some racial purists, like True here, but I don't believe in racial parity for racial parity's sake personally. I want game mechanics. I want gameplay.
If something is going to add gameplay that is equal or greater to the cost and time it will take CCP to put it in, let's do it. But if it's just going to add "one more thing" without making the game fun, then it's pointless, and CCP can better use that time and money doing something else.
Just because "something was promised" doesn't mean it's actually the best choice or direction for the game. Especially when it was promised by people who did a terrible job making decisions about the direction for the game. o_o
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.22 00:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I believe you can only attain a true and meaningful sense of balance when all core racial content is in the game.
True: Again, what content does the Amarr and Minmatar MCCs provide?
"Racial content" is nonsense, because racial versions in themselves, provide no content. If there are ways they are different from existing versions, then perhaps you have content.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.22 01:44:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:And that dear CPM, is the mark of shortsighted fool.
Shortsighted would be someone who can't get over a presentation from two years ago, and has CCP waste months of effort for minimal to nonexistent gains.
I am not saying it would be bad to have them. I am saying it would be a waste of time compared to more beneficial efforts.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.22 02:38:00 -
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Perhaps it is not me underestimating the impact, and more you underestimating the required investment.
Additionally, nobody in this thread has come up with gameplay benefits to adding any of these things. "New/shiny!" is basically the strategy of the original development. Putting things into the game without any idea how they should work in relation to everything else. (See HAVs, cloaks, etc.) This was dumb. What this thread seems to be asking for, is more of what got DUST into such a bad place to begin with.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.22 03:06:00 -
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Ghural wrote:Surely asking them to follow through on their promises is appropriate.
Neither Rattati nor Rouge promised these things. And idiotic promises are idiotic.
Ghural wrote:Not everything needs to have an huge benefit to gameplay, take the new moods for example, they don't enable any "new gameplay" but they do add to immersion and the visual enjoyment of the game, two things which do actually matter and are worth the development time.
The moods were already done. (I think.) This is concept art that would have to be built for scratch for the game.
Between a game mode and a racial vehicle, what would add more enjoyment to your day? Between a port to a newer platform and racial parity for MCCs? These are probably fair comparisons of the scope of effort and cost required. If CCP asks me "Hey, we've got this money and these devs, what should we work on?", my answer is not going to be "racial parity".
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.22 03:37:00 -
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Ghural wrote:CCP made those promises. Blaming individuals is idiotic since they act with the approval of the overall management. The same company is still in charge.
The level of management who approves such decisions is not the people running the game now.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.22 04:13:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:What's with all the hostility?
I'm not hostile. I'm not "attributing ill-motive" to you.
Why is telling you the request is a bad idea "hostile"?
And with regards to your thread edit, you might notice I was responding to True Adamance, not you. ;) I did intend to answer general questions about the thread, but a lot of my posts in the thread have been in response to other people.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.22 06:11:00 -
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Avinash Decker wrote:So new content is ill advised and should not be considered right now, and CCP should focus on "balancing" the content that is currently in the game? Is it not possible for the company to consider how will to integrate new content well not breaking the game?
I didn't say that. Content should be added if it's benefits to gameplay is worth the cost of implementation.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.22 06:19:00 -
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Jathniel, I have no problem with you asking the status of these things. And I think I probably covered the answer in there.
My primary nerve people struck was this "But CCP promised me!" line a few people spouted. Because it's juvenile. CCP never said "I pinky promise this stuff is going to be in the game." And about half the stuff CCP has shown at Fanfest in the last ten years has never actually happened. Not to mention it's a completely different studio that made that presentation for all intents and purposes.
If people have thoughts on why such and such is important to get into the game, that's worthwhile feedback. But the "But CCP promised me" comments will incur ire.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.22 17:05:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:That being said I think it would do the game and the community a whole world of good the sooner CCP can at least give some sort of basic roadmap for the future of DUST 514. Also any roadmap they can share about Legion.
We all appreciate the recent updates and stuff but we are very curious and cautious about the future for these games.
I fully agree. I hope CCP will share some of this information soon.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.11.23 15:55:00 -
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Grimmiers wrote:That commander mode would be great and that would be best with all racial mcc's
Mmmm, I would love that battle commander role thing.
Vell0cet wrote:If I were CCP Rouge, I would do the following: [...1.10 and 1.11 stuff...]
CCP Rattati is the one who is developing DUST stuff. He is deciding what to do in DUST based on what is best for DUST, not what is best for Legion.
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