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RayRay James
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:04:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor no one wants that, but if there are not thresholds added to the game we will all be riding it into the.... well... dust.
We're already doing that.
Either Legion happens or it doesn't, and it will be on PC first (if not only). Dust is not going to be the game we expected. Doesn't mean we should disavow everything that we like about the game just to appease a few people still here who think Dust can rise from the ashes and become a top 5 shooter while still being on the PS3 if only we do this, that and the other thing.
The Dust name is rusted and no about of sanding is going to eliminate that. That's the main reason for the name change. A fresh start, even though it wont be "fresh" because any reviewer worth a damn is going to remember Dust and bring it up in their review.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui has changed his argument through out the last 3 pages. Then refuses to discuss it with anyone with an opposing opinion. That is entirely his prerogative, however, he can't come to the forums with his "solution" without being able to defend it. He completely side steps peoples legitimate questions and focuses on only his point.
If he can't make his argument succinctly and defend it against questions, it's not going to gain traction.
And he still hasn't answered my questions |
Leadfoot10
molon labe. General Tso's Alliance
2209
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:04:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:It isn't the protostompers fault necessarily. They earned their SP and they can run any fit they choose. As for squading up, well that's a core part of Dust: squad-based gameplay.
No, this is matchmaking's fault for not putting the protostompers up against other protostompers.
My squad of three got shunted into a match against Leadfoot10 + squad once. I swear the other 13 blueberries were randoms. I saw one guy swapping fittings at the supply depot in our redline for 3 minutes...
It is not Leadfoot10's fault Scotty gave me window-licker teammates. And I TOTALLY agree , I even said that previously . Leadfoot10 is a good player but the match make up suffers . It's not anyone's fault but the ones that can actually do something about it . This MU crap is garbage and isn't helping in the least , I would make an alt just to test and get placed right into a stomp fest right after graduation , now that's complete B.S. I would get placed in matches that I couldn't pay CCP enough to put me in while on my main . Something is just so wrong about that .
I don't think you understand how MU and team balancing works.
MU doesn't decide who goes into a particular battle, it decides how the battle is balanced between the teams once the match is full and launches.
Perhaps what you should be suggesting is match making rather than team balancing... |
Thor Odinson42
molon labe. General Tso's Alliance
5295
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:06:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
I think the reason so many people like Dust is directly related to it's difficulty and depth. I don't think you are going to get much traction asking to have public matches reduced to solo only game modes where you get some time in the warbarge to build up random squads.
That would suck for everyone when the answer for the sane human would be to find a better group to squad up with. I hope they don't dumb down Dust to the COD lobby shooter level.
I can understand where your coming from but how is that helping those who have no knowledge of the game , how is that competitive when the other team is full of random players , how is that NOT driving away people who feel like there overwhelmed by the lack of knowledge , SP's , ISK's or resources to compete ??? It's easy to say in the same mind frame and say you have to adapt but hows that doing for the community and the numbers on a game that's 2 years old and on a system that's 10 years old and it's F2P ? This is ONE game that should be KILLING with the numbers of people that play it but it's dying because not enough people play so they have to jump ship and move to PC .
The auto-squading from beta led me to the group of players that eventually ended up forming Molon Labe. I remember countless times telling some random squad leader how to drop an orbital. There's no telling how much NPE was handled this way back then.
But the game team aspect of Dust has eroded. I couldn't put a finger on when or why. My guess is that many of the beta players have left the game. I think the beta players were more likely to min/max everything to the core and more likely to squad up and come up with a plan to beat the opposing team. Perhaps the new players who are playing a FTP game on old generation hardware aren't exactly the type to use a lot of brain power on the game??? Who knows?
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
341
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:06:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor no one wants that, but if there are not thresholds added to the game we will all be riding it into the.... well... dust. I agree, and I think that many of the issues stem from CCP ignoring the squad/team play aspect of Dust for so long. They need to figure out how to completely flip the ratio of solo:squad players in matches. The auto squading is okay, but the vast majority aren't going to change their playstyle due to some green dots mixed in with their blue dots.
Since progression is linear the game just gets more and more inhospitable to new players this is probably a change that is long overdue. While auto squad may make people more familiar with team play without any restrictions it would likely have a devastating effect of removing all hope from new players because as it is now people say well you should squad up, when we all know it makes little difference with our very small player base i.e. I will face the same people almost every match in a squad and likely out.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1448
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:06:00 -
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Now you see why I said Bolsh Lee is one of the saner heads , he tells it like it is .
I can easily admit I'm wrong , like how I approached you Leadfoot10 , I was wrong but all I want are better matches not stomp fests where random players go against squads of players familiar with their tactics because there organized .
Please forgive me Leadfoot10 I was wrong in how I approached you .
I was being a Jack@$$ indeed .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
341
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:06:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor no one wants that, but if there are not thresholds added to the game we will all be riding it into the.... well... dust. I agree, and I think that many of the issues stem from CCP ignoring the squad/team play aspect of Dust for so long. They need to figure out how to completely flip the ratio of solo:squad players in matches. The auto squading is okay, but the vast majority aren't going to change their playstyle due to some green dots mixed in with their blue dots.
Since progression is linear the game just gets more and more inhospitable to new players this is probably a change that is long overdue. While auto squad may make people more familiar with team play without any restrictions it would likely have a devastating effect of removing all hope from new players because as it is now people say well you should squad up, when we all know it makes little difference with our very small player base i.e. I will face the same people almost every match in a squad and likely out.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1449
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:10:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor no one wants that, but if there are not thresholds added to the game we will all be riding it into the.... well... dust. We're already doing that. Either Legion happens or it doesn't, and it will be on PC first (if not only). Dust is not going to be the game we expected. Doesn't mean we should disavow everything that we like about the game just to appease a few people still here who think Dust can rise from the ashes and become a top 5 shooter while still being on the PS3 if only we do this, that and the other thing. The Dust name is rusted and no about of sanding is going to eliminate that. That's the main reason for the name change. A fresh start, even though it wont be "fresh" because any reviewer worth a damn is going to remember Dust and bring it up in their review. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui has changed his argument through out the last 3 pages. Then refuses to discuss it with anyone with an opposing opinion. That is entirely his prerogative, however, he can't come to the forums with his "solution" without being able to defend it. He completely side steps peoples legitimate questions and focuses on only his point. If he can't make his argument succinctly and defend it against questions, it's not going to gain traction. And he still hasn't answered my questions Funny , everyone else seems to be on topic , like I said , it's not about me ... it's about making this game better .
Have at me all you like but that's not changing the fact that something needs to be done to change the environment and create numbers and revenue .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Leadfoot10
molon labe. General Tso's Alliance
2213
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:11:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Now you see why I said Bolsh Lee is one of the saner heads , he tells it like it is .
I can easily admit I'm wrong , like how I approached you Leadfoot10 , I was wrong but all I want are better matches not stomp fests where random players go against squads of players familiar with their tactics because there organized .
Please forgive me Leadfoot10 I was wrong in how I approached you .
I was being a Jack@$$ indeed .
No worries, bro, we all want this game to be more popular and successful.
If I may offer you some advice, it would be to focus more on the solution and less on the problem.
We all want a more competitive and popular game. The question is how to go about it, not who is at fault (I blame CCP! ). |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1449
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:14:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Now you see why I said Bolsh Lee is one of the saner heads , he tells it like it is .
I can easily admit I'm wrong , like how I approached you Leadfoot10 , I was wrong but all I want are better matches not stomp fests where random players go against squads of players familiar with their tactics because there organized .
Please forgive me Leadfoot10 I was wrong in how I approached you .
I was being a Jack@$$ indeed . No worries, bro, we all want this game to be more popular and successful. If I may offer you some advice, it would be to focus more on the solution and less on the problem. We all want a more competitive and popular game. The question is how to go about it, not what's causing it or who is at fault. You know you Molon Labe and FA guys get all the slack and hate for some reason .
Guess I fell into that mode , shame to say .
You didn't deserve it .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
985
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:15:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:RayRay James wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor no one wants that, but if there are not thresholds added to the game we will all be riding it into the.... well... dust. We're already doing that. Either Legion happens or it doesn't, and it will be on PC first (if not only). Dust is not going to be the game we expected. Doesn't mean we should disavow everything that we like about the game just to appease a few people still here who think Dust can rise from the ashes and become a top 5 shooter while still being on the PS3 if only we do this, that and the other thing. The Dust name is rusted and no about of sanding is going to eliminate that. That's the main reason for the name change. A fresh start, even though it wont be "fresh" because any reviewer worth a damn is going to remember Dust and bring it up in their review. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui has changed his argument through out the last 3 pages. Then refuses to discuss it with anyone with an opposing opinion. That is entirely his prerogative, however, he can't come to the forums with his "solution" without being able to defend it. He completely side steps peoples legitimate questions and focuses on only his point. If he can't make his argument succinctly and defend it against questions, it's not going to gain traction. And he still hasn't answered my questions Funny , everyone else seems to be on topic , like I said , it's not about me ... it's about making this game better . Have at me all you like but that's not changing the fact that something needs to be done to change the environment and create numbers and revenue .
QFT srsly dude, stop. Here, this is all we need to talk about.
Match making.
Its doesn't exist. Why? Too small a player base. K... so what do we need t do? Get more players. How do we do that? Balance the game and improve npe.
How do we balance the game? Fixing the fuking bugs and horse crap game design.....exactly like Rattati's doing. And the illuminatii that pull the cpms strings say npe is beimg worked on.
So this game is *incredibly slowly* on the right track.
At this point if you cant see that, youre fuktarded.
Straight up dude.
Ratatti might be two years too late, but hes doing the best he can with the little bit he has. Be patient and stfu for once.
Please Lone-wolf responsibly. Calling for nerfs because you died is bad, cause its usually your own stupid fault.
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Leadfoot10
molon labe. General Tso's Alliance
2213
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:17:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Now you see why I said Bolsh Lee is one of the saner heads , he tells it like it is .
I can easily admit I'm wrong , like how I approached you Leadfoot10 , I was wrong but all I want are better matches not stomp fests where random players go against squads of players familiar with their tactics because there organized .
Please forgive me Leadfoot10 I was wrong in how I approached you .
I was being a Jack@$$ indeed . No worries, bro, we all want this game to be more popular and successful. If I may offer you some advice, it would be to focus more on the solution and less on the problem. We all want a more competitive and popular game. The question is how to go about it, not what's causing it or who is at fault. You know you Molon Labe and FA guys get all the slack and hate for some reason . Guess I fell into that mode , shame to say . You didn't deserve it .
We are just a visible and popular target. Used to it. No biggie.
The facts are we have good players and we have not so good players. We have people who only run solo, and people who run only in squads. We have people who run only proto, and people who never do. We have people who try hard to win, and people who could care less.
No worries. |
Thor Odinson42
molon labe. General Tso's Alliance
5295
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:21:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor no one wants that, but if there are not thresholds added to the game we will all be riding it into the.... well... dust. I agree, and I think that many of the issues stem from CCP ignoring the squad/team play aspect of Dust for so long. They need to figure out how to completely flip the ratio of solo:squad players in matches. The auto squading is okay, but the vast majority aren't going to change their playstyle due to some green dots mixed in with their blue dots. Since progression is linear the game just gets more and more inhospitable to new players this is probably a change that is long overdue. While auto squad may make people more familiar with team play without any restrictions it would likely have a devastating effect of removing all hope from new players because as it is now people say well you should squad up, when we all know it makes little difference with our very small player base i.e. I will face the same people almost every match in a squad and likely out.
I'm not sure I follow what you are trying to say here.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1450
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:22:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote: QFT srsly dude, stop. Here, this is all we need to talk about.
Match making.
Its doesn't exist. Why? Too small a player base. K... so what do we need t do? Get more players. How do we do that? Balance the game and improve npe.
How do we balance the game? Fixing the fuking bugs and horse crap game design.....exactly like Rattati's doing. And the illuminatii that pull the cpms strings say npe is beimg worked on.
So this game is *incredibly slowly* on the right track.
At this point if you cant see that, youre fuktarded.
Straight up dude.
Ratatti might be two years too late, but hes doing the best he can with the little bit he has. Be patient and stfu for once.
Gee , I wasn't aware that I was taking digs at Rattatti , didn't even mention him until now eventhough if that was how I felt , I could have ... didn't know that you were his boi toi , .... you must like me with all the hate , sorry I just don't swing that way , I don't kiss men on the mouth , no offense to those who do but it's just not me .
I can give you a hug though , sounds like you need one .
Just don't grab my @$$ .
We might have a problem then .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
985
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:28:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote: QFT srsly dude, stop. Here, this is all we need to talk about.
Match making.
Its doesn't exist. Why? Too small a player base. K... so what do we need t do? Get more players. How do we do that? Balance the game and improve npe.
How do we balance the game? Fixing the fuking bugs and horse crap game design.....exactly like Rattati's doing. And the illuminatii that pull the cpms strings say npe is beimg worked on.
So this game is *incredibly slowly* on the right track.
At this point if you cant see that, youre fuktarded.
Straight up dude.
Ratatti might be two years too late, but hes doing the best he can with the little bit he has. Be patient and stfu for once.
Gee , I wasn't aware that I was taking digs at Rattatti , didn't even mention him until now eventhough if that was how I felt , I could have ... didn't know that you were his boi toi , .... you must like me with all the hate , sorry I just don't swing that way , I don't kiss men on the mouth , no offense to those who do but it's just not me . I can give you a hug though , sounds like you need one . Just don't grab my @$$ . We might have a problem then .
Listen here slapass, your pedantic ranting is mind-numbingly infuriating; you havent put forth a solid argument or idea since prior to fanfest and everything after has been a how-to guide to polarize and isolate the playerbase.
Youd make a helluva congressman, but a rather terrible community member.
Look at what you were asking for in this thread. It took 4 pages but I whittled it down and summed it up in my prior post.
Why couldn't you have done that in the first place instead of this whirlwind, bleeding heart ego trip you took all for a ride on?
Shi t dont happen over night when you a 5-man crew desperately trying to fix this broken game, while proof-of-concept testing legion into at the same time.
Please Lone-wolf responsibly. Calling for nerfs because you died is bad, cause its usually your own stupid fault.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1450
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:28:00 -
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Sorry about the boi toi comment Rattatti , your a true star in the community .
Hell , you even compromised for people like myself with the SP refund .
I'll go to bat for you .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Kierkegaard Soren
THE HANDS OF DEATH RUST415
554
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:32:00 -
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Drop squad maximum to four, bring back the warbage and push all combatents into a squad by default, giving them the option to opt out and go solo before the battle starts.
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1452
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:37:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Listen here slapass, your pedantic ranting is mind-numbingly infuriating; you havent put forth a solid argument or idea since prior to fanfest and everything after has been a how-to guide to polarize and isolate the playerbase.
Youd make a helluva congressman, but a rather terrible community member.
Look at what you were asking for in this thread. It took 4 pages but I whittled it down and summed it up in my prior post.
Why couldn't you have done that in the first place instead of this whirlwind, bleeding heart ego trip you took all for a ride on?
Shi t dont happen over night when you a 5-man crew desperately trying to fix this broken game, while proof-of-concept testing legion into at the same time.
Shame that you just didn't see the truth in my comments and the fact that the community has come to discuss the matter means that they care about what's going on .
Sometimes feedback solve problems because like you stated , one person might not be able to do the job alone but multiple people are more efficient if there on the same path which is what happened . I love group discussions and if you see what I did as blank and meaningless then that's your opinion , I feel that I said what was on my mind , others came in and gave valued input on the matter and for that I'm thankful . Still doesn't change what's happening or what goes on but it gives this discussion substance IMHO .
Maybe this will cause some of the powers that be to think about what's going on to find a even ground and help to make the situation better and less one sided and that's all that I'm looking for .
Thank you for all the love that you show .
It's not unnoticed .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1453
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:39:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Drop squad maximum to four, bring back the warbage and push all combatents into a squad by default, giving them the option to opt out and go solo before the battle starts. See , good feedback is valued .
Good points made .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
985
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:49:00 -
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See, good feed back can be generated in 5 lines. Not pages.
Shin, id be more receptive to anything you'd say if it wasn't presented in an arrogant, all or nothing tone. If you were looking for actual conversation you still wouldnt be ignoring rayrays questions.
Nor would you have accusatory tones with straw man arguments.
Come on bud, I know you can do better, I've seen it before.
Also, seeing another *matches are borked, fix nao!* thread is enough to **** off anyone.
Cause they've been main page discussions for weeks now. : /
Please Lone-wolf responsibly. Calling for nerfs because you died is bad, cause its usually your own stupid fault.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1453
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:54:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:See, good feed back can be generated in 5 lines. Not pages.
Shin, id be more receptive to anything you'd say if it wasn't presented in an arrogant, all or nothing tone. If you were looking for actual conversation you still wouldnt be ignoring rayrays questions.
Nor would you have accusatory tones with straw man arguments.
Come on bud, I know you can do better, I've seen it before.
Also, seeing another *matches are borked, fix nao!* thread is enough to **** off anyone.
Cause they've been main page discussions for weeks now. : / So that should be an indicator that something needs to be done to fix it .
I can come off like a jack@$$ and for that please forgive me .
I try not to have that " do it now " attitude but I come off as being harsh at times , guess it's the military in me .
I just need to smoke some Kush and I will be fine .
I just want this game to be the best and I get frustrated at times .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14828
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:56:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Drop squad maximum to four, bring back the warbage and push all combatents into a squad by default, giving them the option to opt out and go solo before the battle starts. See , good feedback is valued . Good points made .
No reason to every opt out of a squad though. Almost every modern game auto assigns you one before the match even starts.
"The moment passed in thunder and calamitous intent and yet no order was given to retreat or give their ground"
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
986
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:00:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:See, good feed back can be generated in 5 lines. Not pages.
Shin, id be more receptive to anything you'd say if it wasn't presented in an arrogant, all or nothing tone. If you were looking for actual conversation you still wouldnt be ignoring rayrays questions.
Nor would you have accusatory tones with straw man arguments.
Come on bud, I know you can do better, I've seen it before.
Also, seeing another *matches are borked, fix nao!* thread is enough to **** off anyone.
Cause they've been main page discussions for weeks now. : / So that should be an indicator that something needs to be done to fix it . I can come off like a jack@$$ and for that please forgive me . I try not to have that " do it now " attitude but I come off as being harsh at times , guess it's the military in me . I just need to smoke some Kush and I will be fine . I just want this game to be the best and I get frustrated at times .
I hear ya bud, its what we all want. We just gotta be patient sometimes, and that ****;s hard.
Please Lone-wolf responsibly. Calling for nerfs because you died is bad, cause its usually your own stupid fault.
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe. General Tso's Alliance
5296
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Drop squad maximum to four, bring back the warbage and push all combatents into a squad by default, giving them the option to opt out and go solo before the battle starts. See , good feedback is valued . Good points made . No reason to every opt out of a squad though. Almost every modern game auto assigns you one before the match even starts.
There isn't any reason for a player to opt out, but when talking this over with Soraya in my thread he made it seem like this would be an absolute necessity. I still haven't figured out why.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
342
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:03:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor no one wants that, but if there are not thresholds added to the game we will all be riding it into the.... well... dust. I agree, and I think that many of the issues stem from CCP ignoring the squad/team play aspect of Dust for so long. They need to figure out how to completely flip the ratio of solo:squad players in matches. The auto squading is okay, but the vast majority aren't going to change their playstyle due to some green dots mixed in with their blue dots. Since progression is linear the game just gets more and more inhospitable to new players this is probably a change that is long overdue. While auto squad may make people more familiar with team play without any restrictions it would likely have a devastating effect of removing all hope from new players because as it is now people say well you should squad up, when we all know it makes little difference with our very small player base i.e. I will face the same people almost every match in a squad and likely out. I'm not sure I follow what you are trying to say here.
If we just squad people up it doesn't change their ability to compete, because they do not have the sp or tactics that a pre formed vet squad. The problem persists and escalates as the population ages vet>noob. This furthers new player strife, causes any population booms to be lost, and eventually degrades the likelihood of a sustainable player base to zero.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
986
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:05:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thor no one wants that, but if there are not thresholds added to the game we will all be riding it into the.... well... dust. I agree, and I think that many of the issues stem from CCP ignoring the squad/team play aspect of Dust for so long. They need to figure out how to completely flip the ratio of solo:squad players in matches. The auto squading is okay, but the vast majority aren't going to change their playstyle due to some green dots mixed in with their blue dots. Since progression is linear the game just gets more and more inhospitable to new players this is probably a change that is long overdue. While auto squad may make people more familiar with team play without any restrictions it would likely have a devastating effect of removing all hope from new players because as it is now people say well you should squad up, when we all know it makes little difference with our very small player base i.e. I will face the same people almost every match in a squad and likely out. I'm not sure I follow what you are trying to say here. If we just squad people up it doesn't change their ability to compete, because they do not have the sp or tactics that a pre formed vet squad. The problem persists and escalates as the population ages vet>noob. This furthers new player strife, causes any population booms to be lost, and eventually degrades the likelihood of a sustainable player base to zero.
Very much this.
Jumped in a couple of random squads from the spawn screen today. No cohesion, communication or plan. It was just extra qarpoints here and there. Can't win em all I guess
Please Lone-wolf responsibly. Calling for nerfs because you died is bad, cause its usually your own stupid fault.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:19:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:
If we just squad people up it doesn't change their ability to compete, because they do not have the sp or tactics that a pre formed vet squad. The problem persists and escalates as the population ages vet>noob. This furthers new player strife, causes any population booms to be lost, and eventually degrades the likelihood of a sustainable player base to zero.
That's the whole reason I started this , to show imbalance that I'm sure that most of you were aware of and to figure out a way that WE could change that .
I don't believe in it being too late in the game for change and like I said , I think that there are some that's waiting for certain changes before they come back and I'm just trying to make that happen with help .
I want the numbers to climb , I want better matches , I want the vets that left to come back , I want the new players to feel like they can lean on the vets for advice and help and not feel alienated .
It would be great with this game being F2P that the numbers would be out of the roof where you wouldn't have to wait to play FW because of the overabundance of people on-line ready and waiting , good pub matches and great PC matches where your not playing the same people or their ALT's match after match .
Better late then never and I know that this game is far better then it's numbers allow at the moment .
Maybe that's just my belief .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 10:59:00 -
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