The incredibly rare random vs random matches are always fun to play.

Now I must admit I didn't read all that you wrote Ray but can you tell me that you HAVE NEVER seen a post written by a new player that explains their discomfort with the current set up and how they feel like " cannon fodder " for vet players or higher skilled players ????


Are you really trying to tell me that ?

My comments weren't fashioned at Checkmate , I could care less what others do in-game but my concerns are about the games health and make-up in general .

If he took that as a poke then I'm misunderstood and I ask him to forgive me but that's his preference .

I'm talking about why this games numbers DO NOT GROW and how mechanics are mismanaged or flaws are left unattended in order of placing more content in a game that has so many things wrong that need to be addressed FIRST AND FORMOST .

I care about the health of this game and would love for more people to play and feel welcomed , I would love to see new faces and TRULY NEW not ALT's .

There are multiple posts like the one that was written by Checkmate so my gripe wouldn't be specifically directed towards him and that really won't be fair to tell you the truth to just single him out .

I don't have a problem with him .

I do have a problem with mismanagement and the fact that the numbers of this game is stagnant for a system that has millions of it's units sold with multiple years on the market and very few people involved in this games community .

That's my problem and something that I just don't understand .

Fix the glitches , running and getting stuck on terrain , broken mechanics in-game if it's weapons ... suits ... bonuses to roles , headshot multipliers , designed maps or game modes , these things should be first on the list instead of new content added to a fragile and unstable make up of the mechanics in this game .

Things would run so much more smoothly if these things were addressed and some emphasis were placed on these issues over ways to make money or add new content .

I for one , don't like to introduce people to this game and then have them to tell me what's wrong with it and those thoughts are a reflection of how I feel or what I know to be issues , sometimes I want to be wrong , not that I'm always right ... far from it but to not have any influence on a persons opinion and to have them state issues that I know are REAL problems says a lot .

Many people that I have spoken about Dust to eventually wonder why I still play this game which they look at as a failure but I see it as that's something that they just don't understand but I could also chalk that up to issues that are not looked at as important to the developers and that's why they go unattended but they are killing the potential of this game as a whole .

It's just no excuse why this is constant .

Didn't mean to take a jab at Checkmate . Wasn't my intention .

Now here is definitely one of the people that I'm speaking of .

I see you and Mike doing the same thing that I'm talking about and your ruining the game .

Care about squad play ? I have no problem with that but when you go against random players , the fact that your playing with players that your familiar with gives you a distinct advantage that you just can't dispute .

Your not as good as you think that you are as long as you use others as a crutch .

Like it or not that's just a fact .

Pubs should be a mixture of random players .

If you care about squads so much , why not play with others , other then the norms that you play with .?. grab some rookies and squad with them for a change if your so skilled and not ALT's from the same friends that you crutch on ?

Oh yeah , because people like you drive away newer players and you take pride in doing so .

Don't kid yourself , please .... just don't .

Your still not understanding me and that's alright , I guess .

We disagree and that's fine , a sign of life but I'm not against squad play .

I'm against the low numbers of this game .

I'm against facing the same stomp fest match after match .

I'm against people leaving a match because they see the mismatch on the other side .

I'm against not having enough players on a game that's over 2 years old on a system that's over 10 years old to que a full match , like 9 against 16 or 5 on 10 because of the fact that this game doesn't have the numbers to support it .

I can go on but why , these things are not foreign to most of you .

The reality is I'd stomp you with or without my squad.

I play with experienced players and newer members alike.

Don't pretend to know how I play or with whom.

Don't like being beaten by players better than you? Practice.
Don't like being beaten by squads? Join one.
Don't like being beaten by players familiar with each other using teamwork? Try it yourself.

Just don't tell me to not enjoy the game the way I want to enjoy it because you don't like getting beat.

Nobody did me any favors when I started playing this game. I got stomped relentlessly.

What did I do? It certainly didn't entail QQing on the forums.

I tried what beat me. I learned. I adapted. I got better.

You might try it too.

Or you might QQ.

The choice is yours.

Listen, extending warbarge times will NOT result in randoms going "LOLHey, lets make a squad"

If you want to make squads we have SQUADFINDER.

Gear restrictions should never happen as well. I like to think of ADV gear as the mainstay gear. Basic gear is budget gear, and Proto is what you pull when you NEED to do something (Like take an objective).

Blues need a lot more help than what you are suggesting, but none of your ideas will fix it. They NEED a better tutorial. Such as how to make squads, knowing when to pull out what gear etc. etc.

For example: Was playing against some friends yesterday in Fac War. My blues got horridly cloned in the city, despite my tryharding to ensure that we always held majority points. Chatted with my friends afterwards, and they said something very profound.

"Blues need to realize that they can't spam militia into the city. That place is a meatgrinder, and you NEED HP to survive down there. Spamming MLT or Basic is just feeding us kills over and over. "

These are the types of things that need to be taught in academy, not "Heres your 10 matches, get out, HAVE FUN".

Most of our problems in this game can be solved through a better NPE, which mainly consists of giving the vast majority of players in this game a decent amount of common FPS sense and tactics.

I am not going to allow you to make this about you or me for that matter , this is about a game that should be doing way better then it is currently and what could be done to change that because to me , it's never too late and I believe that a lot of people who left are waiting for the right things to happen to come back and small steps that are firm are better then long uncoordinated strides to me .

I want the numbers to increase , I want the people that I introduce to this game , to understand what I see in it and the community , I want to have better matches that are far more intense then the current set up .

Can't have a " if it ain't broke then don't fix it " attitude because this $h!t is broken as frack and it just doesn't seem like the things that really need to be done are being done .

I'm not going to give you that type of power .

I wan't this game to be the best in it's genre and right now , it's not even top five .

I wanna see Angry Joe do a late as hell review of Dust 514 because this game deserves it .

I would like to know that others think that this game is moving in the right direction , can't really say that now .

Now here is definitely one of the people that I'm speaking of .

I see you and Mike doing the same thing that I'm talking about and your ruining the game .

I think 30 seconds to a minute in the warbarge isn't a bad idea, but for what you seem to be wanting I think auto-squading is the answer.

We had it in beta, you were thrown in a squad as you entered the warbarge.

I spoke the truth because YOU ARE ONE OF THESE SAME PEOPLE , I see it everyday in pub matches whether were on the same team or not .

I see two teams of four or five of the same corp and on the other squad a bunch of random players .

That's not balanced and that is what this discussion is really about , not e-pen measuring .

If your still on the same $h!t I won't indulge you in the least .

So, tell me what to do.

Should I not squad up?

Should I only run militia fits?

Should I not use a mic?

Should I let you win?

I spoke the truth because YOU ARE ONE OF THESE SAME PEOPLE , I see it everyday in pub matches whether were on the same team or not .

I see two teams of four or five of the same corp and on the other squad a bunch of random players .

That's not balanced and that is what this discussion is really about , not e-pen measuring .

If your still on the same $h!t I won't indulge you in the least .

It isn't the protostompers fault necessarily. They earned their SP and they can run any fit they choose. As for squading up, well that's a core part of Dust: squad-based gameplay.

No, this is matchmaking's fault for not putting the protostompers up against other protostompers.

My squad of three got shunted into a match against Leadfoot10 + squad once. I swear the other 13 blueberries were randoms. I saw one guy swapping fittings at the supply depot in our redline for 3 minutes...

It is not Leadfoot10's fault Scotty gave me window-licker teammates.

If it's a mixture of players and not all familiars then that might be a compromise .

Like I said , pub matches should be a mixture of random players .

Not the crap that's current .

We have played together before , multiple times and I can say that for the most part , if I'm on your team we win , if not I loose but look at the match make up once and a while and you will understand what I'm talking about .

I'm not against you or squad play , I'm against mismatched matches and that's all .

That's the whole point of this discussion .

Look at the make up of the games and tell me if I'm lying .

I think the reason so many people like Dust is directly related to it's difficulty and depth. I don't think you are going to get much traction asking to have public matches reduced to solo only game modes where you get some time in the warbarge to build up random squads.

That would suck for everyone when the answer for the sane human would be to find a better group to squad up with. I hope they don't dumb down Dust to the COD lobby shooter level.

Thor no one wants that, but if there are not thresholds added to the game we will all be riding it into the.... well... dust.

I think the reason so many people like Dust is directly related to it's difficulty and depth. I don't think you are going to get much traction asking to have public matches reduced to solo only game modes where you get some time in the warbarge to build up random squads.

That would suck for everyone when the answer for the sane human would be to find a better group to squad up with. I hope they don't dumb down Dust to the COD lobby shooter level.