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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
655
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Posted - 2014.11.19 16:16:00 -
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My Scout MK.0 fit:
Proto CR Proto Knives Adv Cloak Active Scanner 1x Complex Shield Extender 2x Enhanced Shield Extenders 2x Complex Kincats 1x Enhanced PG Upgrade
Sprints at around 10.40 m/s and has almost 400 EHP
But if you get scanned, you're dead.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4629
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Posted - 2014.11.19 17:22:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote: 3 dampeners hide you from all except maximum skilled Gallogi (unlikely variable).
I'm a max skilled Gal logi. Hi scout I'm a max skilled Mk.0 and Gk.0 scout. Hello, prey. |
SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
171
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Posted - 2014.11.19 17:34:00 -
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Don't use my pro scout, feel i should max ewar out before wasting suit, but here's how its set up at moment.
2 complex shield enhanced precision
complex reactive complex ferro enhanced range
pro ar knives
link hive nade |
Leadfoot10
molon labe. General Tso's Alliance
2201
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Posted - 2014.11.19 17:53:00 -
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I don't run the min scout, but the ones I run with run some version of three basic suits:
sneaky (double dampened w/proto cloak to counter gallogi or amscout) fast (bottles) hacker (speed & codebreaker)
CR/KN seems to be the most popular weapon combo. |
Aria Gomes
Wirykomi Wolf Pack
687
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:48:00 -
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This is what I used to run.
Scout mk.0
Complex Shield Extender Complex Precision Enhancer Either a shield regulator or precision
Proto Scrambler Pistol/SMG/Bolt Pistol with Ishukone Nova Knives
3 Kin Cats
Remote Explosive or more than likely Compact Nanohive
No grenade unless I can fit a basic flux or locus.
Not sure if that fit would work for 1.9 but it was good for 1.8
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Sergeant Sazu
Kitties of Doom
199
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:55:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:I've been an occasional Minja since 1.0. Not very experienced, so take my advice lightly.
I only have it to level 3, but here's my fit after lots of tweaks:
Scout M/1 Series -BK-42 ACR -Ishukone NK -C-7 Flux Grenade -X-3 Quantum Nanohive
Lows: -Complex Dampener (Dodge PRO scanners)
I stopped here and laughed my ******* head off HAHA a minmitar scout needs 3 complex dampeners to avoid a complex scanning suit...someone has NO idea what they are talking about
Read the forum rules and come back. Perhaps you could explain how I'm wrong instead of being immature and unproductive.
Let's take a look at facts:
Minmatar Scout Db: 31.5 With 1 Complex Dampener, I'm around 23. Last I checked, proto scanners are 28. 21 on a Gallente Logi, which would require 2 dampeners to avoid. Not sure where you got 3, unless we're talking about the Focused Scanner; which is a different story. If I'm missing something, feel free to inform me in a civil manner.
[33.7m SP - Next skill: Combat Rifle Sharpshooter 5]
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
340
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Posted - 2014.11.19 22:00:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Id use
1x comp sidearm dmgmod if no prof 5/comp shield 2x comp shield 1x enh shield energizer
1x comp kinkat 1x comp codebreaker/dampener 1x ceomp/enh regulator
Proto combat rifle Proto NK Flux nade REs Adv cloak
EDIT:im not a scout and suck at fitting them Lol. Are you sure you can fit all that? I said I'm not a scout.
Gallente Assault-Caldari Logistics
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
763
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Posted - 2014.11.19 22:26:00 -
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I don't understand you clowns telling him not to run armor plates. The weapons that annihilate a min scout are scrambler rifles and ARs. Right now ARs are FOTM, armor is a nice thing to have, at least enough to survive an engagement with a backstepping AR user.
HP in general is a good idea on a min scout, especially in pubs. Something I've noticed is there isn't much need to run dampenersin pubs, you rarely run into someone with proto scans aand even when I do I can just switch to a dampened fit or turn on him, they typically stack dampeners themselves so are easy to kill.
I've also noticed kin cats are really not as effective as some HP modules. A reactive plate gives a shield tanked min scout + 15% HP and some more armor reps, a kin cat will only give +12.6% no matter what
Cloaks are not worth the pg on a min scout anymore, run REs. I drop most cloaked scouts due to firing delay and the fact that they think they are invisible. |
Aria Gomes
Wirykomi Wolf Pack
687
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:50:00 -
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Running armor on a Min Scout is taking it's only advantage away; speed. You take a Min Scout's speed away it becomes nothing.
But that's just my opinion. I prefer squishy speed tanking.
Edit:I'm talking Armor Plates not Ferroscale and Reactive. Even then Ferroscale is the better choice though.
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
495
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:04:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:Running armor on a Min Scout is taking it's only advantage away; speed. You take a Min Scout's speed away it becomes nothing.
But that's just my opinion. I prefer squishy speed tanking.
Edit:I'm talking Armor Plates not Ferroscale and Reactive. Even then Ferroscale is the better choice though. I still sneer at the one mk.0 I knifed yet had enough hP to still turn around and SG me...
Give the Magsex some love.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
2390
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Posted - 2014.11.20 01:02:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote: 3 dampeners hide you from all except maximum skilled Gallogi (unlikely variable).
I'm a max skilled Gal logi. Hi scout I'm a max skilled Mk.0 and Gk.0 scout. Hello, prey. I'm full scout Gk0. See ya later.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
2390
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Posted - 2014.11.20 04:51:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:xavier zor wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:I've been an occasional Minja since 1.0. Not very experienced, so take my advice lightly.
I only have it to level 3, but here's my fit after lots of tweaks:
Scout M/1 Series -BK-42 ACR -Ishukone NK -C-7 Flux Grenade -X-3 Quantum Nanohive
Lows: -Complex Dampener (Dodge PRO scanners)
I stopped here and laughed my ******* head off HAHA a minmitar scout needs 3 complex dampeners to avoid a complex scanning suit...someone has NO idea what they are talking about Read the forum rules and come back. Perhaps you could explain how I'm wrong instead of being immature and unproductive. Let's take a look at facts: Minmatar Scout Db: 31.5 With 1 Complex Dampener, I'm around 23. Last I checked, proto scanners are 28. 21 on a Gallente Logi, which would require 2 dampeners to avoid. Not sure where you got 3, unless we're talking about the Focused Scanner; which is a different story. If I'm missing something, feel free to inform me in a civil manner. The Focused has a base of 20. Need to be a full PRO Gal scout with 3 damps to escape my full PRO Gal logi.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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xavier zor
Boundless Mercenary
306
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Posted - 2014.11.21 01:04:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:xavier zor wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:I've been an occasional Minja since 1.0. Not very experienced, so take my advice lightly.
I only have it to level 3, but here's my fit after lots of tweaks:
Scout M/1 Series -BK-42 ACR -Ishukone NK -C-7 Flux Grenade -X-3 Quantum Nanohive
Lows: -Complex Dampener (Dodge PRO scanners)
I stopped here and laughed my ******* head off HAHA a minmitar scout needs 3 complex dampeners to avoid a complex scanning suit...someone has NO idea what they are talking about Read the forum rules and come back. Perhaps you could explain how I'm wrong instead of being immature and unproductive. Let's take a look at facts: Minmatar Scout Db: 31.5 With 1 Complex Dampener, I'm around 23. Last I checked, proto scanners are 28. 21 on a Gallente Logi, which would require 2 dampeners to avoid. Not sure where you got 3, unless we're talking about the Focused Scanner; which is a different story. If I'm missing something, feel free to inform me in a civil manner.
Proto scanners with complex precision enhancers on a gallante logi aren't 28 (stop using protofits.com) if you use a calculator they are less than 17
Highest plasma cannon kill: 132 metres
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Sergeant Sazu
Kitties of Doom
200
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:48:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Proto scanners with complex precision enhancers on a gallante logi aren't 28 (stop using protofits.com) if you use a calculator they are less than 17
I don't use protofits. I used a calculator.
Gallente Logistics 5 grants 25% to Active Scanner precision. So 28 becomes 21.
I've never heard of Precision Enhancers boosting Active Scanners. Pretty sure they only apply to passive scans.
[33.8m SP - Next skill: Combat Rifle Sharpshooter 5]
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3172
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:51:00 -
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4 complex damage mods, 4 complex kincats.
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2266
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:53:00 -
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^^^^
Balls. Has them. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6059
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:58:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:4 complex damage mods, 4 complex kincats. On a suit that only has 6 slots (3 HS, 3 LS)?
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3172
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:10:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:4 complex damage mods, 4 complex kincats. On a suit that only has 6 slots (3 HS, 3 LS)?
Oh, I thought this thread was about the assault mk.0 suit.
In that case, 3 myofibs, 3 complex armor plates.
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
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Aria Gomes
Wirykomi Wolf Pack
688
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:36:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:4 complex damage mods, 4 complex kincats. On a suit that only has 6 slots (3 HS, 3 LS)? Oh, I thought this thread was about the assault mk.0 suit. In that case, 3 myofibs, 3 complex armor plates.
Should be 3 myofibs and 3 complex kin kats so you can float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6061
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:41:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:4 complex damage mods, 4 complex kincats. On a suit that only has 6 slots (3 HS, 3 LS)? Oh, I thought this thread was about the assault mk.0 suit. In that case, 3 myofibs, 3 complex armor plates. I find it odd you stack KinCats on an your MinAss, and Armor on your Minja.
It seems kind of backwards, though KinCats on a MinAss makes more sense.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3850
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:54:00 -
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This thread is a bit all over the place now. Anyway, I've decided on a fit. It works for me and typically produces better results than the others I have tried.
Scout mk.0
Complex shields x3 Complex damp x2 Complex reactive
Ishukone NKs TY-5 BrScP Core Locus Nades
ARN-18 Clack REs
I don't need codebreakers. Level 5 MinBonus plus level 5 Systems Hacking suffices. I also don't need KinCats. I still sprint at 8.22 m/s, which is enough. I'd rather have less profile and a bit more HP with some repair. Thanks to those who have suggested some pretty decent fits. I couldn't get them to work for me, but they were still fun to use.
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Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
226
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:20:00 -
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too much HP, too much cloak.
That cloak won't serve you half as well as an active scanner, that armor isn't as useful as speed, those shields aren't as useful as myrofibrils (if you're badass) or precision enhancers (it only takes one dampener on an assault to beat your passive) |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8151
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Posted - 2014.11.21 23:09:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:This thread is a bit all over the place now. Anyway, I've decided on a fit. It works for me and typically produces better results than the others I have tried.
Scout mk.0
Complex shields x3 Complex damp x2 Complex reactive
Ishukone NKs TY-5 BrScP Core Locus Nades
ARN-18 Clack REs
I don't need codebreakers. Level 5 MinBonus plus level 5 Systems Hacking suffices. I also don't need KinCats. I still sprint at 8.22 m/s, which is enough. I'd rather have less profile and a bit more HP with some repair. Thanks to those who have suggested some pretty decent fits. I couldn't get them to work for me, but they were still fun to use.
NO NO NO
Did you read my first post in this?
Reactives slow you down. Speed/Stealth is the BEST way to run a Minja hands down. With 2 damps you NEED to run the complex cloak. When you cloak up with 2x damps, you are immune to all scans short of Gall Logi focused. This will get you under 2x Amarr scout scans.
I typically run a CR instead of a BrScP, and Fluxes have far better versatility than core locus.
I don't care WHAT you put in that last low slot, but NOT armor. Best choice would probably be a Kincat, but if you don't have the PG, next best bet would be a regulator. As a Shield scout, your first priority should be avoiding damage and avoiding taking enough damage to break shields as a last resort. With 3x complex shields, it will take you QUITE a while to get those back up, which is why the regulator is a good choice, since it gets your delay down to 2.46 / 3.77 for your delay/depleted.
Without the regulator, you're looking at a good 6 seconds before your shield start to come back. This will get you killed.
Hope the advice helps. Seriously, DON'T RUN ARMOR.
Alternate Speed/Regen fit I made while getting the data on regulators:
2x Complex Shield 1x Enhanced Energizer (Damn CPU)
1x Boundless Combat Rifle 1x Ishukone Nova Knife 1x C-7 Flux
Proto Cloak
1x Complex Regulator 1x Complex Speed 1x Complex Damp
Stats:
265 shields 87 Armor
65.3 Recharge/s 2.46s delay 3.52s depleted
Profile: 24 Cloaked: 22 9.35 Sprint
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