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CCP Frame C C P 4717	Posted - 2014.11.11 02:46:00 - [1] - Quote Today we are introducing a brand new generation of pre-fitted dropsuits to DUST 514 for Aurum or LP and ISK - APEX-Series BPO Dropsuits. Find out more about these prototype dropsuits right here, and feel free to post your feedback in this thread :) CCP Frame

Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 288	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:01:00 - [2] - Quote colour me surprised! GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2404	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:07:00 - [3] - Quote Interesting. Not what I had expected, however we can buy them with LP as well as AUR? Respect for that. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
dziz Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:11:00 - [4] - Quote wow, I'm getting my first BPO, thanks!
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1577	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:12:00 - [5] - Quote Very happy with the "State Rasetsu" Assault name. Kind of wish more of Galm and my work got used on the minmatar. I know plenty of people who'd be happy to have a "Republic Draugr" Assault or a "Republic Einherjar" Logistics. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3102	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:13:00 - [6] - Quote Much epic. Many colours. Wow. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 192	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:15:00 - [7] - Quote The LP suits we can buy will be consumable ones right? Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be. Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9150	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:15:00 - [8] - Quote Release? Price? This could be huge for logis who want all their equipment slots in a BPO. Templar Logi is cool and all but only 2 equipment suck. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3103	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:18:00 - [9] - Quote APEX? I want to see the fit, i may spend those 10Gé¼ PSN refunded me, if they cost 10Gé¼. I've named the "Shaman" proto Minmatar logi Don't be envy FW Kickstarter channel

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1337	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:20:00 - [10] - Quote Welp! DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status



CCP Frame C C P 4719	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:21:00 - [11] - Quote Nope, no consumables anywhere. These are all BPOs. Also, they are available... CCP Frame wrote: Today CCP Frame

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1577	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:26:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Nope, no consumables anywhere. These are all BPOs. Also, they are available... CCP Frame wrote: Today Prices? Both Aur & LP/isk variants? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 941	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:26:00 - [13] - Quote First, love this! Very nice! Second, some feedback before its even gone live! Could FW Ranks affect the suit? Like +1%HP per level as an example. Third, did I mention this is awesome and will more than likely buy when servers are up? Fourth, a bonus to LP payout while in one of the suits on the right side? wink wink nudge nudge SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1982	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:27:00 - [14] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: The LP suits we can buy will be consumable ones right? No it's a BPO that you can grind LP for and purchase using that LP. It's named differently so you can show you EARNED it rather than paid for it. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 13189	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:29:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Nope, no consumables anywhere. These are all BPOs. Also, they are available... CCP Frame wrote: Today Having stuff released the day it is announced? And isn't stupid? Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3104	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:29:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Nope, no consumables anywhere. These are all BPOs. Also, they are available... CCP Frame wrote: Today Not available on the market. I've named the "Shaman" proto Minmatar logi Don't be envy FW Kickstarter channel
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 941	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:31:00 - [17] - Quote I can only find a handful on the market. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1983	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:34:00 - [18] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: I can only find a handful on the market. Not at home at the moment but check the Loyalty Store of each faction to fit the LP variants I believe. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7163	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:34:00 - [19] - Quote So, it's a Prototype Pre-Fitted BPO that's lit up like the sun... Man, I hate to call a Slippery Slope argument but... EDIT: Can we please just cut the cord between Dust 514 and Eve Online now? Like, holy hell the very thought of a bunch of people running around in these suits and making an impact on the state of FW in Eve Online just drives me up the wall. Long-Term Roadmap Question -EVERYTHING-
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 941	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:40:00 - [20] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: I can only find a handful on the market. Not at home at the moment but check the Loyalty Store of each faction to fit the LP variants I believe. Unfortunately there not all there either, not all the ones that the dev blog listed anyway. Can only see: Amarr assault Caldari sentinel Gal commando Gal scout Minmatar Logi and then the AUR variants. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial

Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1984	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:42:00 - [21] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: So, it's a Prototype Pre-Fitted BPO that's lit up like the sun... Man, I hate to call a Slippery Slope argument but... Understand your reservations there but when Rattati explained that these suits could be paid for using LP points, rather than just cash, the CPM were supportive of the idea. It'll help new players giving them an option for a tougher suit and demonstrate the racial philosophies in warfare. It's also a great way to add excitement to FW as we believe it'll cause a lot of players to try and grind the LP variants of the Apex class. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Henry FitzEmpress Carpenters United 99	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:44:00 - [22] - Quote Is there a list of how each dropsuit is fitted? The specific modules and weapons? I'm not seeing anything here or in game. Would want to know how each is fitted before committing to purchase. Thanks.
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1984	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:44:00 - [23] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: I can only find a handful on the market. Not at home at the moment but check the Loyalty Store of each faction to fit the LP variants I believe. Unfortunately there not all there either, not all the ones that the dev blog listed anyway. Can only see: Amarr assault Caldari sentinel Gal commando Gal scout Minmatar Logi and then the AUR variants. I'll bring it to the teams attention o7 CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7164	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:46:00 - [24] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So, it's a Prototype Pre-Fitted BPO that's lit up like the sun... Man, I hate to call a Slippery Slope argument but... Understand your reservations there but when Rattati explained that these suits could be paid for using LP points, rather than just cash, the CPM were supportive of the idea. It'll help new players giving them an option for a tougher suit and demonstrate the racial philosophies in warfare. It's also a great way to add excitement to FW as we believe it'll cause a lot of players to try and grind the LP variants of the Apex class. I wouldn't care if we weren't directly connected to Eve Online via FW and PC. Dust 514 is on a closed-off economy with no player based interaction, so I'm not worried about johnny nobody running around in his riskless investment because it's not exactly harming anything. On the other hand, a bunch of people running around in Pre-fitted Prototype BPOs in FW making a direct impact on the state of FW in Eve Online bothers the ever living ** out of me. Long-Term Roadmap Question -EVERYTHING-**
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 929	Posted - 2014.11.11 11:55:00 - [25] - Quote So I checked and thus far reports of what people get in the packs have lined up with this thread. So if you are wondering what is in the suit before you buy it, check out this Google doc for the, (most likely correct) information. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gM03WwHeQd29u7PuwPJw7ETgkvuD9xYkyrufmdC4QZ8/edit#gid=0 O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Liara Kaiba Shadow Broker Wet Squad 3	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:00:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The APEX-Series is perfect for the new players of DUST 514. Except they need to grind 10 millions ISK and 100000 LP to get them. Not sure they will pay any attention to such expensive stuff. I won't talk about the 50000 AUR versions as I don't see any sane new player tossing much money in a game he can't play. If I were a new player, I would stick to free Starter Fit BPOs. Also, as already reported, only five APEX suits are released.

CCP Rattati C C P 11128	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:02:00 - [27] - Quote We are releasing a handful now, one to test the waters (and bugs), so one per faction, two for one for a total of 5. The other ones will be out soon enough. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P 11128	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:04:00 - [28] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: So I checked and thus far reports of what people get in the packs have lined up with this thread. So if you are wondering what is in the suit before you buy it, check out this Google doc for the, (most likely correct) information. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gM03WwHeQd29u7PuwPJw7ETgkvuD9xYkyrufmdC4QZ8/edit#gid=0 Thanks for the link, I will double check, but yes, they should be up to date in that spreadsheet. Also, if you look for "gold" dropsuits on protofits ;) "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2406	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:05:00 - [29] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So, it's a Prototype Pre-Fitted BPO that's lit up like the sun... Man, I hate to call a Slippery Slope argument but... Understand your reservations there but when Rattati explained that these suits could be paid for using LP points, rather than just cash, the CPM were supportive of the idea. It'll help new players giving them an option for a tougher suit and demonstrate the racial philosophies in warfare. It's also a great way to add excitement to FW as we believe it'll cause a lot of players to try and grind the LP variants of the Apex class. I wouldn't care if we weren't directly connected to Eve Online via FW and PC. Dust 514 is on a closed-off economy with no player based interaction, so I'm not worried about johnny nobody running around in his riskless investment because it's not exactly harming anything. On the other hand, a bunch of people running around in Pre-fitted Prototype BPOs in FW making a direct impact on the state of FW in Eve Online bothers the ever living ** out of me. Talk about making a big fuss over nothing. So you are bothered about some standard gear fit bpo proto suits but you were not bothered about the billions upon billions of isk generated in PC farming of old that can keep certain individuals in proto for the rest of the time this game is around? Maybe you were bothered. All I am saying is this wont suddenly change the outcome of anything that has not already happened Aeon. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big fk-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

CCP Frame C C P 4722	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:05:00 - [30] - Quote The first batch is out today: Caldari 'Shogun' Sentinel Amarr 'Opus' Assault Minmatar 'Shaman' Logistics Gallente 'Serpent' Scout Gallente 'Centurion' Commando And the rest will follow over the course of next 4 weeks or so. CCP Frame


Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 942	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:07:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: The first batch is out today: Caldari 'Shogun' Sentinel Amarr 'Opus' Assault Minmatar 'Shaman' Logistics Gallente 'Serpent' Scout Gallente 'Centurion' Commando And the rest will follow over the course of next 4 weeks or so. Min scout next? SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II 0uter.Heaven 128	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:10:00 - [32] - Quote Hope to see these suits eventually replace militia gear everywhere :D
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7165	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:11:00 - [33] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So, it's a Prototype Pre-Fitted BPO that's lit up like the sun... Man, I hate to call a Slippery Slope argument but... Understand your reservations there but when Rattati explained that these suits could be paid for using LP points, rather than just cash, the CPM were supportive of the idea. It'll help new players giving them an option for a tougher suit and demonstrate the racial philosophies in warfare. It's also a great way to add excitement to FW as we believe it'll cause a lot of players to try and grind the LP variants of the Apex class. I wouldn't care if we weren't directly connected to Eve Online via FW and PC. Dust 514 is on a closed-off economy with no player based interaction, so I'm not worried about johnny nobody running around in his riskless investment because it's not exactly harming anything. On the other hand, a bunch of people running around in Pre-fitted Prototype BPOs in FW making a direct impact on the state of FW in Eve Online bothers the ever living ** out of me. Talk about making a big fuss over nothing. So you are bothered about some standard gear fit bpo proto suits but you were not bothered about the billions upon billions of isk generated in PC farming of old that can keep certain individuals in proto for the rest of the time this game is around? Maybe you were bothered. All I am saying is this wont suddenly change the outcome of anything that has not already happened Aeon. Can you show evidence as to the consistency of that logic? That farmed PC ISK is somehow not lost whenever the person gets killed in battle? Farmed ISK or not they were still losing something whenever you blew their head off with a shotgun. That's not the case here in any sense of the word. I'd take PC ISK farming over BPOs any day. At least with that I have the satisfaction of knowing that it cost them something and further more PC ISK Farming is no longer an issue since it got removed (completely, despite my protests that it would remove incentive to even going into PC) whereas these BPOs seem to be ever on the rise. Long-Term Roadmap Question -EVERYTHING-**
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2406	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:14:00 - [34] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So, it's a Prototype Pre-Fitted BPO that's lit up like the sun... Man, I hate to call a Slippery Slope argument but... Understand your reservations there but when Rattati explained that these suits could be paid for using LP points, rather than just cash, the CPM were supportive of the idea. It'll help new players giving them an option for a tougher suit and demonstrate the racial philosophies in warfare. It's also a great way to add excitement to FW as we believe it'll cause a lot of players to try and grind the LP variants of the Apex class. I wouldn't care if we weren't directly connected to Eve Online via FW and PC. Dust 514 is on a closed-off economy with no player based interaction, so I'm not worried about johnny nobody running around in his riskless investment because it's not exactly harming anything. On the other hand, a bunch of people running around in Pre-fitted Prototype BPOs in FW making a direct impact on the state of FW in Eve Online bothers the ever living ** out of me. Talk about making a big fuss over nothing. So you are bothered about some standard gear fit bpo proto suits but you were not bothered about the billions upon billions of isk generated in PC farming of old that can keep certain individuals in proto for the rest of the time this game is around? Maybe you were bothered. All I am saying is this wont suddenly change the outcome of anything that has not already happened Aeon. Can you show evidence as to the consistency of that logic? That farmed PC ISK is somehow not lost whenever the person gets killed in battle? Farmed ISK or not they were still losing something whenever you blew their head off with a shotgun. That's not the case here in any sense of the word. I'd take PC ISK farming over BPOs any day. At least with that I have the satisfaction of knowing that it cost them something and further more PC ISK Farming is no longer an issue since it got removed (completely, despite my protests that it would remove incentive to even going into PC) whereas these BPOs seem to be ever on the rise. So your problem is not with an impact it will make on EVE FW but your own personal sense of accomplishment, the new fact that killing one of these BPO suits will not necessarily harm that persons wallet. Of course farmed isk is lost but you are missing the point. They got such a boost up to begin with that isk became meaningless to them. The game will die before you could even make a dent in that isk Aeon. So this is about you and your feelings and not any impact this may have on FW. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big fk-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 78	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:28:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We are releasing a handful now, one to test the waters (and bugs), so one per faction, two for one for a total of 5. The other ones will be out soon enough. I'd help you with this testing if the ones I wanted were there.
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7165	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:32:00 - [36] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: So your problem is not with an impact it will make on EVE FW but your own personal sense of accomplishment, the new fact that killing one of these BPO suits will not necessarily harm that persons wallet. Of course farmed isk is lost but you are missing the point. They got such a boost up to begin with that isk became meaningless to them. The game will die before you could even make a dent in that isk Aeon. So this is about you and your feelings and not any impact this may have on FW. Besides, these are not the first BPO`s or even the first time a 100% free BPO suit would have been made. "At least with that I have the satisfaction of knowing that it cost them something" - Cost them what precisely? If someones pool of isk resource is virtually infinite then you have cost them absolutely nothing. Lmfao, don't strawman my argument and don't assume what "my problem" is. Seriously, that is 100% the quickest way to get me to write off anything you have to say. 250,000 ISK is much more than 0 ISK and I understand your point clearly, I just don't think that it overshadows the sheer potential gain of BPO's in any way shape or form. PC ISK farming was not something that people did as an exploit, they took advantage of what CCP allowed them to do with in-game mechanics. The system itself was flawed but no-one was violating the EULA by doing it. To elaborate, people were angry because PC entities were doing exactly what CCP expected them to do with their districts: Make ISK. That was the entire point of PC and the only unforeseen circumstance to that was District Locking, which loosely had anything to do with the ISK faucet that PC was. It stopped people from attacking their districts, yes, but the districts were going to be pumping out ISK regardless. That being said, getting all butthurt and bitter over other players utilizing their territories for the express intent and purpose that CCP had -designed- the system for is - for lack of a better word - dumber than hell. Did they make too much? Sure. I could buy that argument. It -was- a lot of ISK. Was it necessary to remove ISK altogether? Perhaps, but it was a knee-jerk reaction to combat rampant ISK gains... Which doesn't make any sense at all because, at the time, we were also removing BPOs from the market as well.. Now that we're bringing BPO's back, why not bring back ISK generation from PC? Clearly having ISK isn't the issue, otherwise we wouldn't be giving people a "get out of jail free" card when it comes to -LOSING- their ISK. This has absolutely -NOTHING- to do with what -MY- problems are or what -MY- personal sense of accomplishment is. It has to do with the fact that so long as at least -ONE PERSON- is in FW on Dust 514 and winning battles without any risk at all, affecting the state of FW in Eve Online, and by default Eve Online's player-based economy, I have an issue. Cut the cord, or ditch the BPOs. Long-Term Roadmap Question -EVERYTHING-
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 135	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:35:00 - [37] - Quote Nice, but still no FW running
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 530	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:41:00 - [38] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Cut the cord, or ditch the BPOs. Cut the crap and enjoy the game sounds better to me? Holy walls of text batman, you two are too emotional over this. Stop with walls of text :D Story of your life
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2408	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:50:00 - [39] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: So your problem is not with an impact it will make on EVE FW but your own personal sense of accomplishment, the new fact that killing one of these BPO suits will not necessarily harm that persons wallet. Of course farmed isk is lost but you are missing the point. They got such a boost up to begin with that isk became meaningless to them. The game will die before you could even make a dent in that isk Aeon. So this is about you and your feelings and not any impact this may have on FW. Besides, these are not the first BPO`s or even the first time a 100% free BPO suit would have been made. "At least with that I have the satisfaction of knowing that it cost them something" - Cost them what precisely? If someones pool of isk resource is virtually infinite then you have cost them absolutely nothing. Lmfao, don't strawman my argument and don't assume what "my problem" is. Seriously, that is 100% the quickest way to get me to write off anything you have to say. 250,000 ISK is much more than 0 ISK and I understand your point clearly, I just don't think that it overshadows the sheer potential gain of BPO's in any way shape or form. PC ISK farming was not something that people did as an exploit, they took advantage of what CCP allowed them to do with in-game mechanics. The system itself was flawed but no-one was violating the EULA by doing it. To elaborate, people were angry because PC entities were doing exactly what CCP expected them to do with their districts: Make ISK. That was the entire point of PC and the only unforeseen circumstance to that was District Locking, which loosely had anything to do with the ISK faucet that PC was. It stopped people from attacking their districts, yes, but the districts were going to be pumping out ISK regardless. That being said, getting all butthurt and bitter over other players utilizing their territories for the express intent and purpose that CCP had -designed- the system for is - for lack of a better word - dumber than hell. Did they make too much? Sure. I could buy that argument. It -was- a lot of ISK. Was it necessary to remove ISK altogether? Perhaps, but it was a knee-jerk reaction to combat rampant ISK gains... Which doesn't make any sense at all because, at the time, we were also removing BPOs from the market as well.. Now that we're bringing BPO's back, why not bring back ISK generation from PC? Clearly having ISK isn't the issue, otherwise we wouldn't be giving people a "get out of jail free" card when it comes to -LOSING- their ISK. This has absolutely -NOTHING- to do with what -MY- problems are or what -MY- personal sense of accomplishment is, specifically. It has to do with the fact that so long as at least -ONE PERSON- is in FW on Dust 514 and winning battles without any risk at all, affecting the state of FW in Eve Online, and by default Eve Online's player-based economy, I have an issue. Cut the cord, or ditch the BPOs. Dude I hear you and I agree with most of what you have said but again you have skipped over the flaw in your argument. As long as one person who has farmed isk in PC is in FW, they too may well be winning battles without any risk at all. This whole thing is utterly meaningless. FW in EVE is laughed at by most of the community by the way. Not that that changes anything but its the truth. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2408	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:52:00 - [40] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Cut the cord, or ditch the BPOs. Cut the crap and enjoy the game sounds better to me? Holy walls of text batman, you two are too emotional over this. Stop with walls of text :D IDGAF about the implications where as Aeon does. I am merely pointing out that the difference is negligible at best. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10217	Posted - 2014.11.11 12:57:00 - [41] - Quote I must admit that I never expected ccp to be able to throw a curve ball, let alone a curve ball that then turns into a slider, at us and I mean that in a good way. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9150	Posted - 2014.11.11 13:03:00 - [42] - Quote How can the Amarr logi not have a rep tool for its favorite pal, the Amarr sentinel? Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2408	Posted - 2014.11.11 13:08:00 - [43] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: How can the Amarr logi not have a rep tool for its favorite pal, the Amarr sentinel? That's Minmatar tech.... "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 132	Posted - 2014.11.11 13:08:00 - [44] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: How can the Amarr logi not have a rep tool for its favorite pal, the Amarr sentinel? Yeah, that's kind of problematic with how slowly sentinel reps. Assaults/Commandos should carry the hives, Logi's a rep tool. Or at least they should take uplinks off min logi and put an active scanner there. CommanderBolt wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: How can the Amarr logi not have a rep tool for its favorite pal, the Amarr sentinel? That's Minmatar tech.... And yet the minmatar are using uplinks. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
wave soundE SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 0	Posted - 2014.11.11 13:13:00 - [45] - Quote cries isk suit bpo! Imma rock it with pride! No wonder its isk, no customization. But what ever >The soundE of your screams is music to my ears
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9150	Posted - 2014.11.11 13:14:00 - [46] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: How can the Amarr logi not have a rep tool for its favorite pal, the Amarr sentinel? That's Minmatar tech.... I can see that argument for weapons but not equipment as there is no racial variants for each type of equipment. Equipment fittings need to be based on practicality. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1985	Posted - 2014.11.11 13:23:00 - [47] - Quote I'll be buying the Gal commando when I get home. I have all the skills for all its components maxed out. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1678	Posted - 2014.11.11 13:24:00 - [48] - Quote Guys... You can edit these suits. Once you click out of the build you can't re-edit, but you can change anything when you create the suit... I thought the suit was an as-is thing? If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
NextDark Knight Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 576	Posted - 2014.11.11 13:41:00 - [49] - Quote Hopefully these suits are restricted to only running in Faction games. Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10217	Posted - 2014.11.11 13:53:00 - [50] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Guys... You can edit these suits. Once you click out of the build you can't re-edit, but you can change anything when you create the suit... I thought the suit was an as-is thing? https://twitter.com/RandomDuck91/status/532163385136529408 There's some proof. Wow. That could be a bug. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1680	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:02:00 - [51] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: ResistanceGTA wrote: Guys... You can edit these suits. Once you click out of the build you can't re-edit, but you can change anything when you create the suit... I thought the suit was an as-is thing? https://twitter.com/RandomDuck91/status/532163385136529408 There's some proof. Wow. That could be a bug. Honestly, if you can afford the LP version, you've probably been running mainly LP gear (I have) so it saves you pretty much nothing. I edit it to full proto, all it does is save me the suit ISK. But, yea, a little oversight. That's why I buy these things. And bring them here. And annoy CCP on Twitter. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Adis Riefha Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 0	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:03:00 - [52] - Quote Did I see this right, the new BPOs cost 50k aurm? Man, too bad for CCP but that's about twice as much as I was willing to pay. Time for some low-scale FW playing over the next months to get the two BPOs I want, I guess. On the other hand, thanks CCP for preventing me from wasting money on your fine game, it's appreciated!
Moonracer2000 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 830	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:10:00 - [53] - Quote Even with standard level gear, these are pretty proto suits. I don't see how this is balanced. I'd feel okay going up against players in advanced gear with these fits. Back when CCP took the future of Dust seriously they agreed with the community that BPOs past standard level were a bad Idea. The only positive I see here is they are an incentive to playing FW. The ability to obtain them without AUR makes for a nice challenge. Too bad there are never FW matches available when I'm online :(
Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1248	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:19:00 - [54] - Quote I'm having a hard time seeing how this would be useful for veteran players. It's great that you can buy them for isk, but there's really no point for me to do so 1.9 Fixes This Judge Rhadamanthus is my Hero
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1986	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:22:00 - [55] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: I'm having a hard time seeing how this would be useful for veteran players. It's great that you can buy them for isk, but there's really no point for me to do so But..bu...but....... They're SHINY!!! CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
poison Diego Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 488	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:31:00 - [56] - Quote Well now I just have to fit my suits to counter these BPO suits is there a contradiction to jealousy? . if so, KingThunderBolt would know....
Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1248	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:31:00 - [57] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: I'm having a hard time seeing how this would be useful for veteran players. It's great that you can buy them for isk, but there's really no point for me to do so But..bu...but....... They're SHINY!!! I know, and that's cool, but I have a quafe suit for shiny. If I'm running proto suits, I'll typically want to run proto gear on it as well. Basically, I feel it would have been better to add actual customization options, rather than even more BPOs. 1.9 Fixes This Judge Rhadamanthus is my Hero
Espeon Bons Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 295	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:33:00 - [58] - Quote -_- where the hell is my dev blog about pc Redemption comes from changing who you are on the inside. Stain yourself with evil to defeat a greater evil.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1682	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:33:00 - [59] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: I'm having a hard time seeing how this would be useful for veteran players. It's great that you can buy them for isk, but there's really no point for me to do so But..bu...but....... They're SHINY!!! I have the LP and ISK lying around. What else am I gonna use them for? I can run FW without a care in the world if I want. As I slowly reintegrate myself into the game after a long hiatus, I can do so with little financial risk (though, to make its cost back I'll have to run it for a long time). Also gives me a half decent suit to wear while flying. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 343	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:37:00 - [60] - Quote Without aurum you need roughly 75- 100 FW wins to earn this suit. Pull out a 100 wins its With aurum its roughly 30 dollars,wich is a bit steep to ask of a new player to spend on a free to play game. The way i see it, these are vanity items for vets that are pretty much as good as any ADV suits. I expect to see alot of them in the coming months. 5 FW wins a day, and strting from scratch you can get one in about a month. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.

roblox098 Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 25	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:57:00 - [61] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66662/1/APEX23.jpg[/img] Today we are introducing a brand new generation of pre-fitted dropsuits to DUST 514 for Aurum or LP and ISK - APEX-Series BPO Dropsuits. Find out more about these prototype dropsuits right here, and feel free to post your feedback in this thread :) how much isk and isk Scout ck.0 and mk.0
Liara Kaiba Shadow Broker Wet Squad 4	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:01:00 - [62] - Quote roblox098 wrote: how much isk and isk You can buy them either for 58.000 AUR or for 10.000.000 ISK + 100.000 LP
BlazeXYZ G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 309	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:02:00 - [63] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Guys... You can edit these suits. Once you click out of the build you can't re-edit, but you can change anything when you create the suit... I thought the suit was an as-is thing? https://twitter.com/RandomDuck91/status/532163385136529408 There's some proof. The Blazing Intellect Machine
JONAHBENHUR WarRavens Capital Punishment. 47	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:05:00 - [64] - Quote 27 usd for a proto fit with all standard gear that cant be changed or 100000lp and 10 mill isk for each suit is too damn high 7 mins -+ Like "To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5412	Posted - 2014.11.11 15:24:00 - [65] - Quote Cashgrab 514 Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4498	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:00:00 - [66] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Guys... You can edit these suits. Once you click out of the build you can't re-edit, but you can change anything when you create the suit... I thought the suit was an as-is thing? https://twitter.com/RandomDuck91/status/532163385136529408 There's some proof. OK, now that's a problem. Un-modifiable "proto" BPO's that are really just prefitted STD BPO's with more HP is fine, but actual proto BPO suits are obviously not. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2413	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:08:00 - [67] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: How can the Amarr logi not have a rep tool for its favorite pal, the Amarr sentinel? That's Minmatar tech.... I can see that argument for weapons but not equipment as there is no racial variants for each type of equipment. Equipment fittings need to be based on practicality. Oh I totally agree, while it does make some sense to stick with racial weaponry even then the role should also decide. I.E a sniper has to use the only type of sniper we have. But yea when it comes to modules and equipment, they should have what is best and most useful. Like I am sure most logis want a repair tool regardless of the race. I would hope that the role would override racial availability. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Refreak 44 NECRONINJAS 4	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:09:00 - [68] - Quote How long are these dropsuits going to be available? \o/
Adis Riefha Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 0	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:26:00 - [69] - Quote Liara Kaiba wrote: roblox098 wrote: how much isk and isk You can buy them either for 58.000 AUR or for 10.000.000 ISK + 100.000 LP ISK and LP are fine, but holy **** dat aurum-cost. I would have paid maybe half of that at most. (And even that is technically a huge waste of money, but I wouldn't have cared.)
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 248	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:54:00 - [70] - Quote was excited about these until I saw how they were built. The low slot config n the min logi makes it quite a squishy suit. i would always sacrifice a little speed for extra hp and hp regen when fitting options are limited. Fitting an armor plate and an armor repair instead of two ferroscale would give me better regen (i have the repair tool so can't depend on others to have it) and higher hp. The kin cat would offset the speed reduction when sprinting and straffing. The min commando is even more disappointing. Running swarms and md at the same time makes you very vulnerable and reduces the flexibility of the suit. I always run my Commandos with one rifle and one situational weapon so if the situation doesn't fit, you still have your rifle to add to the team's anti-infantry capability (which is always useful regardless of the situation) and you can always defend yourself and your team regardless of the situation. I might try the dual situational to see if it works well in game.

Henrietta Unknown Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 458	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:56:00 - [71] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: How can the Amarr logi not have a rep tool for its favorite pal, the Amarr sentinel? I'm surprised it doesn't have uplinks. Racial purity, remember? Give the Magsex some love.
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2499	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:58:00 - [72] - Quote I've been thinking about this for a couple of hours now and I've got to say I'm not a fan. I don't like the idea of power creep on lossless items. Loss is an important factor in this game. It dictates tactics and adds complexity and interest to the battlefield that doesn't exist in other games where you just mindlessly charge at the enemy over and over again. Previous BPOs were ok because they were very limited in the power it afforded it's players. This is a significant jump in power for something that generates no loss. I really can't get behind that. Best PvE idea ever!
Amuf Oratok Dead Man's Game RUST415 45	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:58:00 - [73] - Quote LP cost sounds exaggerated to me. Plus, if the sheet is correct, I don't see the actual use of a locus grenade on a min scout equipped with nova knife and cr.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3462	Posted - 2014.11.11 16:58:00 - [74] - Quote So basically what this is is, "We're trying out what a Tiercided system would be, where all suits are Proto slots, and quality of the fit is determined by the modules you put on it." Standard modules are forced to simulate a "Low Level" tiericided suit as not to make the BPO nature OP in the tiered system we have now. Currently Vets have the advantage of better modules and better suits, it's a double advantage. This system is designed to remove that Suits advantage and put all of the advantage on the SP used to train the modules. It's an interesting test at the least to see how a tiericide suit performs, though I question how useful it REALLY is for Vets. For example I run a STD Commando which has 2 low slots, I fill 1 with a Complex repper, and the other with a Biotic for mobility. A proto Commando, even with 3 Standard Armor reps is basically a wash in terms of repping power, and I lose my Biotic (assuming of course that Commando is prefit with 3 reps which is unlikely). So in my case, all I'd be gaining is a high slot which is nice, but not that great of a tradeoff. I'll have to take a really close look at the fits and see if any of them will be that beneficial for a high SP character. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 249	Posted - 2014.11.11 17:00:00 - [75] - Quote Thang Bausch wrote: was excited about these until I saw how they were built. The low slot config n the min logi makes it quite a squishy suit. i would always sacrifice a little speed for extra hp and hp regen when fitting options are limited. Fitting an armor plate and an armor repair instead of two ferroscale would give me better regen (i have the repair tool so can't depend on others to have it) and higher hp. The kin cat would offset the speed reduction when sprinting and straffing. The min commando is even more disappointing. Running swarms and md at the same time makes you very vulnerable and reduces the flexibility of the suit. I always run my Commandos with one rifle and one situational weapon so if the situation doesn't fit, you still have your rifle to add to the team's anti-infantry capability (which is always useful regardless of the situation) and you can always defend yourself and your team regardless of the situation. I might try the dual situational to see if it works well in game. Also was not impressed that the min commando did not run two damage mods. Commandos are about damage.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 249	Posted - 2014.11.11 17:02:00 - [76] - Quote Amuf Oratok wrote: LP cost sounds exaggerated to me. Plus, if the sheet is correct, I don't see the actual use of a locus grenade on a min scout equipped with nova knife and cr. The amarr logi running a flux grenade when they have two shield weapons already equiped also doesn't make sense.
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 916	Posted - 2014.11.11 17:11:00 - [77] - Quote I haven't been on yet but these LOOK awesome. Prototype BPOs? Did I read corectly? Damn! So, BPOs are not gamebreaking anymore? Can you say "lol"?! Yep
Brush Master Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1323	Posted - 2014.11.11 17:16:00 - [78] - Quote I fail to see how this help new players, mostly just vets would buy it, the cost deters it. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Liara Kaiba Shadow Broker Wet Squad 7	Posted - 2014.11.11 17:20:00 - [79] - Quote Brush Master wrote: I fail to see how this help new players, mostly just vets would buy it, the cost deters it. THIS. This is so true. Here, have a cookie.
Dylan Meisinger ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 3	Posted - 2014.11.11 17:35:00 - [80] - Quote Can't wait for the rasetsu assault boo XD Im dylan & i love punk rock ,ska , skating anime and video games

Lonewolf Heavy Chaotic Company 140	Posted - 2014.11.11 17:47:00 - [81] - Quote So, I haven't gotten around to checking these out, but from seeing the prices of the BPOs I can safely assume that New Players will seriously never be able to get these. Most new players will probably quit before they have a chance to really try FW and plenty of them will not want to spend the money for Items in a game where they are just being demolished constantly. Also from looking at module layouts, I personally would rather use a standard level suit that I could customize and restock for 5k-15k then pay $30 or waste a ton of time in FW to get a suit that looks nice, but I can't adjust to my play style, even though I have dropped probably close to $200-$300 into this game. Thang Bausch wrote: Thang Bausch wrote: was excited about these until I saw how they were built. The low slot config n the min logi makes it quite a squishy suit. i would always sacrifice a little speed for extra hp and hp regen when fitting options are limited. Fitting an armor plate and an armor repair instead of two ferroscale would give me better regen (i have the repair tool so can't depend on others to have it) and higher hp. The kin cat would offset the speed reduction when sprinting and straffing. The min commando is even more disappointing. Running swarms and md at the same time makes you very vulnerable and reduces the flexibility of the suit. I always run my Commandos with one rifle and one situational weapon so if the situation doesn't fit, you still have your rifle to add to the team's anti-infantry capability (which is always useful regardless of the situation) and you can always defend yourself and your team regardless of the situation. I might try the dual situational to see if it works well in game. Also was not impressed that the min commando did not run two damage mods. Commandos are about damage. And to this, I actually run one of my Min commandos with Swarms and MD with dual damage mods and it works great and then the rest of my commandos run purely their Racial weapons (e.g. Min Commando: Combat Rifle and Mass Driver, Gal Commando: AR and Shotgun/PC, etc.). So in the end each of my commandos might have major flaws, but they all do have a rifle for encounters, and a situational weapon to provide support. Sentinel/Commando
B-F M Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.11.11 18:31:00 - [82] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: EDIT: Can we please just cut the cord between Dust 514 and Eve Online now? Like, holy hell the very thought of a bunch of people running around in these suits and making an impact on the state of FW in Eve Online just drives me up the wall. Lol nothing wrong with a bunch of fashion-conscious merch waging an epic war across the galaxy GöÇGòñGòªn++ Ghosts of Dawn // now recruiting. n++GòªGòñGöÇ
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17687	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:32:00 - [83] - Quote NVM CCP Rattati is answering questions. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 87	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:51:00 - [84] - Quote As a Gallente commando user, the idea of the BPO intrigues me... except why a reactive plate? A 5% HP increase an 1 rep is not worth putting on an armor tanked suit. The armor plate is kind unnecessary, as a rep tanked commando is better at handling repeated engagements. Honestly, I'd prefer 3 basic reps, or perhaps 2 reps and a stamina mod to help with mobility. A suit that can regenerate 500 armor HP in 35 (44 with 2 reps/stamina) seconds with max skills is better than one with 621 armor hp that takes 68 seconds to regen. Rep tanking is both Gallente and commando doctrine after all. Those slots are the only reason I am not grinding out Gal FW as we speak. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14419	Posted - 2014.11.11 19:53:00 - [85] - Quote CCP Rattati WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Poor ol' True Adamance crai's for the Shield Extenders on that "Opus" assault. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 960	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:04:00 - [86] - Quote Why does the Min Logi have a pumpkin on his head? Halloween was last month! Also, color the Aur and LP + ISK versions differently. Show who payed, and who played to get them. ( . )( . )
Vicious Minotaur 1292	Posted - 2014.11.11 20:51:00 - [87] - Quote I still have no idea why these things were put in the "visual customization" category. There is no customization present. Words have meaning, you know. I am a minotaur.
Adis Riefha Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2	Posted - 2014.11.11 21:15:00 - [88] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: I still have no idea why these things were put in the "visual customization" category. There is no customization present. Words have meaning, you know. Oh wow, I think I'd never have found them there. Even if I had the money to buy them.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 194	Posted - 2014.11.11 22:17:00 - [89] - Quote I think these BPO are too poorly and badly fitted (look at the amarr assault suit, devs just can't say that they are playing the game..). ANYWAY! I think they need to be reworked, to be better and worth grinding. I know they dont want them to be overpowerd for unconsomable suits, but I have an idea to fix that: Make these suits obtainly by LP+ISK ONLY! This way, there's no more pay to win, only play to win. People who grinded to have these suits would be rewarded with a decent BPO, not a worthless shining suit fitted by a 2 days old blueberry. Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be. Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 252	Posted - 2014.11.11 22:33:00 - [90] - Quote Lonewolf Heavy wrote: So, I haven't gotten around to checking these out, but from seeing the prices of the BPOs I can safely assume that New Players will seriously never be able to get these. Most new players will probably quit before they have a chance to really try FW and plenty of them will not want to spend the money for Items in a game where they are just being demolished constantly. Also from looking at module layouts, I personally would rather use a standard level suit that I could customize and restock for 5k-15k then pay $30 or waste a ton of time in FW to get a suit that looks nice, but I can't adjust to my play style, even though I have dropped probably close to $200-$300 into this game. Thang Bausch wrote: Thang Bausch wrote: was excited about these until I saw how they were built. The low slot config n the min logi makes it quite a squishy suit. i would always sacrifice a little speed for extra hp and hp regen when fitting options are limited. Fitting an armor plate and an armor repair instead of two ferroscale would give me better regen (i have the repair tool so can't depend on others to have it) and higher hp. The kin cat would offset the speed reduction when sprinting and straffing. The min commando is even more disappointing. Running swarms and md at the same time makes you very vulnerable and reduces the flexibility of the suit. I always run my Commandos with one rifle and one situational weapon so if the situation doesn't fit, you still have your rifle to add to the team's anti-infantry capability (which is always useful regardless of the situation) and you can always defend yourself and your team regardless of the situation. I might try the dual situational to see if it works well in game. Also was not impressed that the min commando did not run two damage mods. Commandos are about damage. And to this, I actually run one of my Min commandos with Swarms and MD with dual damage mods and it works great and then the rest of my commandos run purely their Racial weapons (e.g. Min Commando: Combat Rifle and Mass Driver, Gal Commando: AR and Shotgun/PC, etc.). So in the end each of my commandos might have major flaws, but they all do have a rifle for encounters, and a situational weapon to provide support. I'll have to try the swarms/MD combo then. I can think of some matches where I had a great MD/Swarm position and the match needed both. I've been tempted to spec into the galmando. I already have the AR at prof 3 and the plasma cannon looks like a lot of fun.

Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 960	Posted - 2014.11.11 23:40:00 - [91] - Quote Why do none of the Minmatar suits have a damage mod on them? The Logi I understand, but they are the only race to not have a single one. All they have is stacked shields and rechargers. Hit hard and fast with low HP, right? Seems like stacked HP to still not have any HP, still not that much faster, and no extra oomph behind any of their projectiles. Min Commando is the worst fit of the bunch, and also the only one without a damage mod, on a suit made for dishing out damage, lol. I might grind out the last 30k for the Logi fit, but still, as a Logi, running standard equipment... Ewwwww.... ( . )( . )
endezeichen grimm Brothers Grimm 666 5	Posted - 2014.11.12 01:13:00 - [92] - Quote So what weapons and fittings are in these? I need to know before deciding to buy one. Is there a list of exactly what weapons and modules are fitted in each suit? Simplify the graphics and make the game run smooth!
endezeichen grimm Brothers Grimm 666 5	Posted - 2014.11.12 01:15:00 - [93] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: I still have no idea why these things were put in the "visual customization" category. There is no customization present. Words have meaning, you know. Yeah, and it doesn't say what they are actually fitted with Simplify the graphics and make the game run smooth!
Riptalis Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 79	Posted - 2014.11.12 05:11:00 - [94] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66662/1/APEX23.jpg[/img] Today we are introducing a brand new generation of pre-fitted dropsuits to DUST 514 for Aurum or LP and ISK - APEX-Series BPO Dropsuits. Find out more about these prototype dropsuits right here, and feel free to post your feedback in this thread :) Can you release pictures with the other suits? Python pilot PSN: Riptalis
JONAHBENHUR WarRavens Capital Punishment. 49	Posted - 2014.11.12 12:34:00 - [95] - Quote you can really modify these? "To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2398	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:16:00 - [96] - Quote BPO COMMANDO? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? LOGGING INTO DUST IN SEVERAL MINUTES. Prof. V Plasma Cannon and Gallente Commando V. There is no regret. Only explosions.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4510	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:48:00 - [97] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: BPO COMMANDO? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? LOGGING INTO DUST IN SEVERAL MINUTES. Added: Oh. Never mind. **** that price, dude. Seriously. I was actually giddy before I saw how much AUR. I haven't been able to get in a FW since... well... a long time. Do people even run FW? All the time, dude. If I hadn't blown all my LP on Viziam specialist laz0rs after fanfest I would have already bought one. Might take me a good solid month to get enough back for one of these, tho. Can't play for 3 hours a night like I used to... (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Avlis Daemo Technomancers Inc. 1	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:31:00 - [98] - Quote hell is going to burn up to night with these new drop suits! looks like i my make my minmatar proto logi more deadly by making him in to a jihad tank killer hahhaahah!
endezeichen grimm Brothers Grimm 666 5	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:31:00 - [99] - Quote JONAHBENHUR wrote: you can really modify these? They say you cannot modify them Simplify the graphics and make the game run smooth!
Henrietta Unknown Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 469	Posted - 2014.11.13 06:47:00 - [100] - Quote endezeichen grimm wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: I still have no idea why these things were put in the "visual customization" category. There is no customization present. Words have meaning, you know. Yeah, and it doesn't say what they are actually fitted with Look around and you might find info. Give the Magsex some love.

Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3799	Posted - 2014.11.13 13:11:00 - [101] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Why do none of the Minmatar suits have a damage mod on them? The Logi I understand, but they are the only race to not have a single one. All they have is stacked shields and rechargers. Hit hard and fast with low HP, right? Seems like stacked HP to still not have any HP, still not that much faster, and no extra oomph behind any of their projectiles. Min Commando is the worst fit of the bunch, and also the only one without a damage mod, on a suit made for dishing out damage, lol. I might grind out the last 30k for the Logi fit, but still, as a Logi, running standard equipment... Ewwwww.... I'm actually having fun with mine is it a min/max'ed fit? No. But not every deployment in every match calls for that and this gives me a selection that still supplies four bits of gear while not costing a spleen just to field. To each their own of course but I am finding the min logi Apex to be a fun tool added to my options. 0.02 ISK Cross See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Avlis Daemo Technomancers Inc. 1	Posted - 2014.11.14 17:10:00 - [102] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Release? Price? This could be huge for logis who want all their equipment slots in a BPO. Templar Logi is cool and all but only 2 equipment suck. Good guys my ass in slaving my people for generations! im hunting everyone of you amarr bastards! i hear that a bullet to the head is very lethal! For my friends and the family's that died under your rule im not going to stop untill you are wiped off the face of new eden! > One shot all it takes...
Miokai Zahou WarRavens Capital Punishment. 410	Posted - 2014.11.16 05:21:00 - [103] - Quote Remind me again why it was a good idea to have all the other suits but the Cal Scout having a cloak? It kind of defeats the purpose of the bonus don't you think? Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1291	Posted - 2014.11.16 19:43:00 - [104] - Quote Question... Why is the CalScout model the only one with no cloak? "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS 256	Posted - 2014.11.17 03:00:00 - [105] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66662/1/APEX23.jpg[/img] Today we are introducing a brand new generation of pre-fitted dropsuits to DUST 514 for Aurum or LP and ISK - APEX-Series BPO Dropsuits. Find out more about these prototype dropsuits right here, and feel free to post your feedback in this thread :) Looking for the full list of fittings? Look no further! cant find caldari assualt bpo Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 919	Posted - 2014.11.17 17:27:00 - [106] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: CCP Frame wrote: [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66662/1/APEX23.jpg[/img] Today we are introducing a brand new generation of pre-fitted dropsuits to DUST 514 for Aurum or LP and ISK - APEX-Series BPO Dropsuits. Find out more about these prototype dropsuits right here, and feel free to post your feedback in this thread :) Looking for the full list of fittings? Look no further! cant find caldari assualt bpo Not all suits are rerleased yet. They will be released gradually over the coming weeks. It seems there will be a new set each week (for 4 weeks). Yep
Paulus Phen502 RISE of LEGION 13	Posted - 2014.11.18 08:20:00 - [107] - Quote Commandos are slow and should have scanners to best assist the team. Also armor tank the Amaar, Shield the Caldari, Armor Rep for the Gallente, and Damage for the minmatar. "There's no stoppin' what can't be stopped, no killin' what can't be killed," King Willie Predator II.

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 4767	Posted - 2014.11.18 09:02:00 - [108] - Quote Today we are introducing 5 more APEX Series dropsuits! * Gallente 'Atlas' Sentinel: Prototype Sentinel with: -Heavy Damage Modifier -Standard Shield Extender -Standard Forge Gun -Standard SMG -Standard Flux Grenade -Federation Armor Repairer -Federation Armor Plates -Standard Reactive Plates * Caldari 'Rasetsu' Assault: Prototype Assault with: -State Extender -State Extender -Standard Precision Enhancer -State Energizer -State Light Damage Modifier -State Rail Rifle -Standard Bolt Pistol -Standard Locus Grenade -State Nanohive -State Regulator -State Regulator -Standard Ferroscale * Amarr 'Seraph' Logistics: Prototype Logistics with: -Standard Precision Enhancer -Standard Precision Enhancer -Standard Shield Extender -Imperial Assault Scrambler Rifle -Imperial Scrambler Pistol -Standard Flux Grenade -Standard Drop Uplink -Standard Nanohive -Standard Nanite Injector -Imperial Armor Plate -Imperial Armor Plate -Imperial Armor Plate -Imperial Armor Repair * Minmatar 'Tiger' Scout: Prototype Scout with: -Republic Extender -Republic Extender -Republic Extender -Standard Combat Rifle -Standard Nova Knives -Standard Locus Grenade -Republic Remote Explosive -Standard Cloak Field -Standard Dampener -Standard Dampener -Standard Kinetic Catelyzer * Minmatar 'Renegade' Commando: Prototype Commando with: -Republic Extender -Republic Extender -Standard Swarm Launcher -Republic Mass Driver -Standard Nanohive -Republic Regulator -Standard Ferroscale CCP Frame

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1646	Posted - 2014.11.18 09:21:00 - [109] - Quote ^any timeframe on the changes gathered by rattati making their way to these suits? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 4767	Posted - 2014.11.18 10:05:00 - [110] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: ^any timeframe on the changes gathered by rattati making their way to these suits? Updated with those now, sorry about that :D CCP Frame


Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 124	Posted - 2014.11.18 10:53:00 - [111] - Quote Ahh, just 1 more caldari suit, whatever. More waiting.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 320	Posted - 2014.11.18 11:07:00 - [112] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Today we are introducing 5 more APEX Series dropsuits! // Minmatar 'Tiger' Scout: Prototype Scout with: -Standard Precision Enhancer -Republic Extender -Republic Extender -Standard Combat Rifle -Standard Nova Knives -Standard Flux Grenade -Republic Remote Explosive -Standard Cloak Field -Standard Dampener -Standard Codebreaker -Standard Kinetic Catalyzer // Minmatar 'Renegade' Commando: Prototype Commando with: -Republic Extender -Standard Light Damage Modifier -Standard Combat Rifle -Republic Mass Driver -Standard Nanohive -Republic Regulator -Standard Kinetic Catalyzer Can't say too much about the scout, but thank you very much for dropping the swarms from the minmando. Though I had some fun yesterday running a basic swarm on a basic minmando yesterday (prof5 SL and lv5 minmando) I think it would have been a tough setup for anybody without high skills in MD+SL. This more infantry related setup should do just fine. I'll get one when it's in the loyalty store. Cheers Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing...
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 124	Posted - 2014.11.18 12:34:00 - [113] - Quote All the apex Logi suits look like C-3PO from Star wars.
Haerr Dead Man's Game RUST415 1937	Posted - 2014.11.18 14:17:00 - [114] - Quote Pilot APEX dropsuits are missing. :(
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 143	Posted - 2014.11.18 14:30:00 - [115] - Quote I'm a bit disappointed by the look of the Minmando, when I saw the Galmando last week I was like OMG it's so cool. But the Minmando has too much gold on it. To me it's especially weird to have the clothes and soft materials gold and the hard materials not gold, the contrary would have looked better. Other than that nice changes to the suits fittings.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 320	Posted - 2014.11.18 15:05:00 - [116] - Quote So I did some games in my new MinmanSanta Suit... It's pretty squishy anyway, and I'd say, dump the extender for a energizer. I even would prefer to have a repper instead of that regulator, but a energizer instead of the extender would do fine I think. Apart from that... lots of fun and lolz in this suit. Good job CCP! Cheers Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing...
Al the destroyer NECROM0NGERS 202	Posted - 2014.11.18 15:15:00 - [117] - Quote I like the changes to the suits thanks for listening
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19169	Posted - 2014.11.18 21:14:00 - [118] - Quote Can we have the HMG (the weapon of the Minmatar Republic, the allies of the Gallente Federation) on the Galsent, instead of the forge gun (the weapon of the enemy Caldari State)? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 932	Posted - 2014.11.18 21:24:00 - [119] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Can we have the HMG (the weapon of the Minmatar Republic, the allies of the Gallente Federation) on the Galsent, instead of the forge gun (the weapon of the enemy Caldari State)? Oooooh, a reason to actually get the GalSent? Yes please. +1 Yep
Crisgrod CHACALES 0	Posted - 2014.11.18 23:10:00 - [120] - Quote Cual-es-mi-sorpresa-que despues-de gastar-aurum-en-un-bpo-me cambian-la-configuracion-desearia-que-los-que-hemos-gastado-este-capital-antes-del-cambio-tener-la-posibilidad-de-que-reembolseen-los-aurum-pues-estaba-satisfecho-como-estaba-en-un-pricipio-al-menos-en-los-BPO-al-que-le-habeis-cambiado-dicha-configuracion.

3Spin Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.11.18 23:57:00 - [121] - Quote Estoy de acuerdo con crisgrod en que los que compramos bpo con aurum antes del cambio se les de la oportunidad de poder sustituirlos pues tampoco me gusto el cambio de magsec por pistola de cerrojo.
exiik Krincevi Terpene Conglomerate 0	Posted - 2014.11.19 00:52:00 - [122] - Quote Why there is everywhere sc. rifle on amarrians suits :-( I think Amarrs need laser rifle to be similar Amarrs in eve (laser guns there, no scrambler type laser there .-)
iKILLu osborne Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2014.11.19 06:27:00 - [123] - Quote loving my apex cal assault so fn much, there is a freedom in knowing the end result screen is pure profit. you'll also did a damn decent job of fitting it,though i would prefer that range amp be replaced with a basic plate, cause once my shields are gone i am d.e.a.d. , but I have had some really great matches going 20/5 15/4 etc. so the above is just a request. so again i say good job on it. p.s. more gold to it, i have been mistaken for a cal logi lp cal scout i demand it z platoon, cfw channel
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 328	Posted - 2014.11.19 06:44:00 - [124] - Quote Holy f***in hell, why does the amarr commando have a kin cat? That moment when you mow down a proto Caldari assault suit with a militia laser rifle. Words can't describe it.
J0hlss0n molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 200	Posted - 2014.11.19 13:37:00 - [125] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: But the Minmando has too much gold on it. All Minmatars have too much "gold" on them... Id rather have torn metal and rust. =P
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS 261	Posted - 2014.11.19 14:41:00 - [126] - Quote cant find fw match been waiting 2 hours lol Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
XxBlazikenxX MOOSE-KNUCKLEz CLAN 11	Posted - 2014.11.19 17:53:00 - [127] - Quote Correct me if I'm wrong but I though the Minmando had Swarms and a MD because I remember how people complaining about how those two weapons were a bad combination due to the fact they are both situational. Life is a fire, but when you get burned its your choice to if the scars make you stronger or if they make you weak.
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 147	Posted - 2014.11.19 18:09:00 - [128] - Quote They listened to us for once and adapted the suits following the feedback (well for most things)
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 936	Posted - 2014.11.19 18:16:00 - [129] - Quote Please can you swap the Gal assault & commando primaries. I'd like my logi to have the burst, and my commando to have the breach. PLLLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEEEE. Yep
Sinboto Simmons Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 6530	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:09:00 - [130] - Quote That's very ummm...bright? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)

Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1009	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:23:00 - [131] - Quote My Republic 'Shaman' won't hold as my favorite. I have to re-favorite it every time I boot up the game. I am a squid now whenever I first arrive in my merc quarters... Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi
Aver Amarn KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 7	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:18:00 - [132] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: My Republic 'Shaman' won't hold as my favorite. I have to re-favorite it every time I boot up the game. I am a squid now whenever I first arrive in my merc quarters... Love the name. Love the sig. Auto approval. If I were a Transformer. I would be a "HOT"obot and my name would be Optimus "Fine."
endezeichen grimm Brothers Grimm 666 9	Posted - 2014.11.22 03:35:00 - [133] - Quote Was this so hard to post? Why can't we have this information in the game? CCP Frame wrote: Today we are introducing 5 more APEX Series dropsuits! // Gallente 'Atlas' Sentinel: Prototype Sentinel with: -Heavy Damage Modifier -Standard Shield Extender -Standard Forge Gun -Ion Pistol -Standard Flux Grenade -Federation Armor Repairer -Federation Armor Plates -Standard Reactive Plates // Caldari 'Rasetsu' Assault: Prototype Assault with: -Standard Light Damage Modifier -State Extender -State Extender -State Energizer -State Light Damage Modifier -State Rail Rifle -Standard Bolt Pistol -Standard Locus Grenade -State Nanohive -State Regulator -State Regulator -State Amplifier // Amarr 'Seraph' Logistics: Prototype Logistics with: -Standard Precision Enhancer -Standard Precision Enhancer -Standard Shield Extender -Imperial Assault Scrambler Rifle -Imperial Scrambler Pistol -Standard Flux Grenade -Standard Drop Uplink -Standard Repair Tool -Standard Nanite Injector -Imperial Armor Plate -Imperial Armor Plate -Standard Kinetic Catalyzer -Imperial Armor Repair // Minmatar 'Tiger' Scout: Prototype Scout with: -Standard Precision Enhancer -Republic Extender -Republic Extender -Standard Combat Rifle -Standard Nova Knives -Standard Flux Grenade -Republic Remote Explosive -Standard Cloak Field -Standard Dampener -Standard Codebreaker -Standard Kinetic Catalyzer // Minmatar 'Renegade' Commando: Prototype Commando with: -Republic Extender -Standard Light Damage Modifier -Standard Combat Rifle -Republic Mass Driver -Standard Nanohive -Republic Regulator -Standard Kinetic Catalyzer Simplify the graphics and make the game run smooth!
thehellisgoingon the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 1	Posted - 2014.11.24 21:44:00 - [134] - Quote 1. Slop. Verb A. Spill or overflow over the edge of a container typically as a result of careless handling. B. Feed slop (to animals, especially pigs) Apex: You are Slop "B" Farmer: CCP Pig: :)
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1030	Posted - 2014.11.25 03:39:00 - [135] - Quote thehellisgoingon wrote: 1. Slop. Verb A. Spill or overflow over the edge of a container typically as a result of careless handling. B. Feed slop (to animals, especially pigs) Apex: You are Slop "B" Farmer: CCP Pig: :) Slop is both free and nourishing. Working as intended. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 4799	Posted - 2014.11.25 08:23:00 - [136] - Quote Batch #3 is going live today :) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2479410#post2479410 CCP Frame

Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7317	Posted - 2014.11.25 08:28:00 - [137] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Batch #3 is going live today :) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2479410#post2479410 Might actually buy the 'Spartan' now that it looks somewhat feasible. Even if it is going against everything New Eden is about (no loss). Long-Term Roadmap "It's very important for us to hear their feedback" Gäó
Paulus Phen502 RISE of LEGION 14	Posted - 2014.11.25 09:34:00 - [138] - Quote One of the heavies should have had the burst HMG. But next patch a racially correct Heavy weapon would be a nice inclusion. Heavy Laser Pulse Cannon(Amaar), Heavy Rail Repeater(Caldari), HMG(Gal), Burst fire Projectile cannon(Minmatar). "There's no stoppin' what can't be stopped, no killin' what can't be killed," King Willie Predator II.
Refreak 44 NECRONINJAS 6	Posted - 2014.11.25 14:59:00 - [139] - Quote The AUR Kampo logistics comes with a standard state rail rifle, not the state assault rail rifle as stated above. Can you correct the fitting so it comes with the assault rail rifle variant? \o/
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 18	Posted - 2014.11.25 22:14:00 - [140] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: I've been thinking about this for a couple of hours now and I've got to say I'm not a fan. I don't like the idea of power creep on lossless items. Loss is an important factor in this game. It dictates tactics and adds complexity and interest to the battlefield that doesn't exist in other games where you just mindlessly charge at the enemy over and over again. Previous BPOs were ok because they were very limited in the power it afforded it's players. This is a significant jump in power for something that generates no loss. I really can't get behind that. as somebody said - Cashgrab 514, and yes, they just don't care about balance as it is anymore... RIP DUSTY... The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.

Paulus Phen502 RISE of LEGION 14	Posted - 2014.11.27 15:56:00 - [141] - Quote My 'Spartan' has a nanohive but everything Iv'e seen says it's suppose to be a scanner. The PDF still says scanner. Am I wrong? "There's no stoppin' what can't be stopped, no killin' what can't be killed," King Willie Predator II.
Genral69 death C0NTRA UNIT RUST415 0	Posted - 2014.11.28 00:25:00 - [142] - Quote Anyone know what's on the gallente assault bpo. I want to purchase it but I'm not sure on the weapon and modules. I have tryed the spread sheet but the my phone does not support the format
Refreak 44 NECRONINJAS 6	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:14:00 - [143] - Quote Thanks for fixing my dropsuit. \o/
Faut S'Grouiller GOAT FLOCK YOURSELF FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 0	Posted - 2014.11.30 15:22:00 - [144] - Quote So, I bought the Shogun Caldari Sentinel because I liked the fitting being both skilled into the Forge Gun abd the Magsec SMG. I enjoyed the suit for about a week and then (apparently by popular demand) CCP changed the fitting to a Bolt Pistol instead of the Magsec... I HATE the Bolt pistol!!! Did not want it, certainly did not ask for it and it has now ruined my enjoyment of the fitting. Wrote a ticket to CCP almost two weeks ago and haven't received any kind of answer or acknowledgement. Thank you CCP! (Note, there doesn't exist a font for sarcasm but there should definitely be one...)
Avlis Daemo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 4	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:06:00 - [145] - Quote when will the Minmatar blueprint apex assault drop suits be released? > One shot all it takes...
Meric Voyer Universal Rogue Traders 25	Posted - 2014.12.02 06:52:00 - [146] - Quote Avlis Daemo wrote: when will the Minmatar blueprint apex assault drop suits be released? Today?
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 69	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:59:00 - [147] - Quote Avlis Daemo wrote: when will the Minmatar blueprint apex assault drop suits be released? The question is why a std CBR on a proto suit? Maybe I'm just overthinking it.
STABBEY Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 536	Posted - 2014.12.04 19:23:00 - [148] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66662/1/APEX23.jpg[/img] Today we are introducing a brand new generation of pre-fitted dropsuits to DUST 514 for Aurum or LP and ISK - APEX-Series BPO Dropsuits. Find out more about these prototype dropsuits right here, and feel free to post your feedback in this thread :) Looking for the full list of fittings? Look no further! HEY UPDATE YOUR **** !! I just bought the damn spartan and what your google doc says its fittings are and what the actual fittings are ARE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY. SPARTAN ASSAULT FITTINGS ARE NOT THE SAME AS WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED UP I BETTER GET A REFUND FOR THIS HORSESHIT. Just to clarify its those damn protofit links you put in the doc that you didnt update. I was expedcting 2 armor reppers and plates that didnt slow me down by 5%. Change the fittings back to what you have set on the proto fits or refund the crap. Gÿú GÖ¦ Gÿñ Gäó © sç+(¬GÇ+¬)sç+ (-éGîú¦Ç_Gîú¦ü)ßòñ Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ-Vet-GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ+¦Gû¼Gû¼ +¬(GùÅ¦«¦âGÇó)¦¦ (GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ (a+ç'¦Ç-'¦ü)a+ç GöîGê¬GöÉ(Gùú_Gùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3833	Posted - 2014.12.05 13:59:00 - [149] - Quote Idk if it was intended or not but the cal logi has a lot of free space.. Idc about the main weapon but better modules or equipment could have been put on it with all that space. Unless of course I was wrong, it was pretty late. Nvm they're all like that. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
thehellisgoingon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 33	Posted - 2014.12.08 23:04:00 - [150] - Quote Bpo saga. Check. Bpo dominus sentinel. Check. Thank for the completely FREE MURDER TAXI CCP Ohh the tears!

Refreak 44 NECRONINJAS 6	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:55:00 - [151] - Quote I've noticed a lot of people are shying away from these suits due to the lack of customization, particularly because of some of the weapons the suits come with. So, I'd like to make the suggestion of, at the very least, allowing us to choose what weapon goes on our suits. Let's say I'm using an APEX assault, if it's a Gallente suit, restrict us to plasma weapons, if we're running a Caldari suit, limit us to rail weapons and so on and so forth. It would be nice to have a double plasma cannon fitting on a Gallente Commando, or a burst assault rifle or shotgun instead of a standard assault rifle on the Spartan Assault. Also, if we could pick what kind of weapon goes on our suits like a light or sidearm, given what the base suit has. Like if we could use another sidearm in place of our light weapon. Of course, the question of the Sentinels comes into play. For this, I suggest allowing us to choose between either of the heavy weapons and any of the other light and sidearm specifically made for that suit's faction. I say that we should be able to choose which heavy weapon since there are only two of them and apparently, racial standings don't come into play considering that The Amarr has a heavy machine gun and the Gallente has a forge gun. This is just a suggestion, of course. Right now I'm very happy with my current suit. \o/
Draconic Presence Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 3	Posted - 2014.12.10 07:12:00 - [152] - Quote I'm not really sure where this should go. This is regarding the Spartan Assault. The spreadsheet states that the suit has an active scanner. This is apparently after the changes have been made to this series of BPOs. I just acquired a Spartan and it doesn't have the scanner, it has a nanohive. What's the deal? I Always ready for Gallente FW or ambush. Stack ISK, SP, and LP.
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1040	Posted - 2014.12.10 17:46:00 - [153] - Quote Draconic Presence wrote: I'm not really sure where this should go. This is regarding the Spartan Assault. The spreadsheet states that the suit has an active scanner. This is apparently after the changes have been made to this series of BPOs. I just acquired a Spartan and it doesn't have the scanner, it has a nanohive. What's the deal? I From the DEV's post earlier in this thread, I'd say they still haven't adjusted it ingame to include a scanner, but they will (eventually). Yep
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1040	Posted - 2014.12.10 17:51:00 - [154] - Quote Sooooo... since these APEX suits were/are aimed at noobs (regardless of who is actually using them), can we vets/more experienced players get some other BPO suits in the store? Customisable standard BPOs? I really wanted a Gal Assault, Min Assault, Min Scout, Gal Commando and Min Commando; but HATE the Quafe suits. If not, how about some like the Quafes (for AUR) but BETTER colour schemes. Yep
Ratticate Y.A.M.A.H 9	Posted - 2014.12.12 18:35:00 - [155] - Quote Will these APEX suits be around until the end of Dust, or are these just in a set period of time? A proud member of the Y.A.M.A.H. corporation, apply today to one of the fastest growing corps out there!
cammando 007 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 9	Posted - 2014.12.17 04:38:00 - [156] - Quote WHY..! did u GUYS (CCP) give MIN SCOUT....a STD NOVA KNIVES...they are USELESS...!! change it...PLS..!
Aderek Made in Poland... E-R-A 106	Posted - 2014.12.23 15:05:00 - [157] - Quote SWARMS! Come back! :) I dont need sniper rifle :( dust514.pl MM proto logi 50 kk SP and growing
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1103	Posted - 2014.12.23 17:03:00 - [158] - Quote cammando 007 wrote: WHY..! did u GUYS (CCP) give MIN SCOUT....a STD NOVA KNIVES...they are USELESS...!! change it...PLS..! LMAO. All modules/weapons/equipment are STD on ALL the APEX suits. Maybe you should have done your homework. Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
4lbert Wesker WESKER S.T.A.R.S 34	Posted - 2015.01.14 09:55:00 - [159] - Quote cammando 007 wrote: WHY..! did u GUYS (CCP) give MIN SCOUT....a STD NOVA KNIVES...they are USELESS...!! change it...PLS..! This is NOT "pay to win" game I punched camel once,and it meowed at me
Jackalope Jack andys revenge43 0	Posted - 2015.01.15 02:06:00 - [160] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: [img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66662/1/APEX23.jpg[/img] Today we are introducing a brand new generation of pre-fitted dropsuits to DUST 514 for Aurum or LP and ISK - APEX-Series BPO Dropsuits. Find out more about these prototype dropsuits right here, and feel free to post your feedback in this thread :) Looking for the full list of fittings? Look no further! when will we have customizable dropsuits by colors. Like make a system where you can make a design for your weopon or change the color of your dropsuit. I think tht would be cool. I seee a lot of ppl hating about how the apex things arent actually custiomizable. so they get mad and think ccp is scamming them. But i just thought for it to be cool to have actual unique colors for your loadouts and whateves.

Les Soldats Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.01.28 13:17:00 - [161] - Quote t-¦s me or the link with the full listing is not working. Would like to have official info regarding the fittings of all. Thanks,
DRT 99 OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 128	Posted - 2015.02.24 04:30:00 - [162] - Quote Please re-sticky this - alot of players need to be able to quickly check the fittings, and the best way is through this thread.
ANAHEIM Darko Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2015.03.10 10:03:00 - [163] - Quote Why didn't any of the Caldari suits get Drop Uplinks? Just curious. --Cellar Door
bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 421	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:45:00 - [164] - Quote J0hlss0n wrote: Francois Sanchez wrote: But the Minmando has too much gold on it. All Minmatars have too much "gold" on them... Id rather have torn metal and rust. =P They're made from salvaged Amarrian armour. Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3378	Posted - 2015.04.17 13:54:00 - [165] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: How can the Amarr logi not have a rep tool for its favorite pal, the Amarr sentinel? Yeah, that's kind of problematic with how slowly sentinel reps. Assaults/Commandos should carry the hives, Logi's a rep tool. Or at least they should take uplinks off min logi and put an active scanner there. CommanderBolt wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: How can the Amarr logi not have a rep tool for its favorite pal, the Amarr sentinel? That's Minmatar tech.... And yet the minmatar are using uplinks. You are totally right, won't get any arguments from me on that. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!


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