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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:12:00 -
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So Finally after quite awhile PFC will be returning to Molden Heath. Aedtide VI will be the new home of Planetary Fight Club. FA has already Given a few districts to PFC, and we are working on acquiring the rest. (Thanks Zatara) Both ROFL and General TSO's alliances will be working together to enforce the simple rules of the New PFC.
1. You cannot get a PFC district if you own a district. 2. To get a district you must field a team of 16 corpmates, at least once. (NO EXCEPTIONS) 3. You cannot take a PFC district from another corp. 4. IF you own a PFC district you cannot own any other districts. If you take another district and hold it for more than 2 weeks you will be required to return your PFC district.
If you corp is interested in a PFC district, post here or send me a mail @ Hawkin Pete
Getting a PFC district will be simple, (after contacting me) you will buy a clone pack and launch a attack on a designated district. IF you show up with a full team OF YOUR CORP MEMBERS that district will be yours. You will even get most of your ISK back for the clone pack. (getting people to join your corp then leave will be a ban-able offence)
Thanks goes to Nyain, Zatara, and FA. Also I'd like to thank Cusetown333 for making this possible. |
Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:23:00 -
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No joke GL finding corps that can field 16 without ringers and are not already in PC |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:28:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote: Both ROFL and General TSO's alliances will be working together to enforce the simple rules of the New PFC.
lolCP
NEG1
EVE 21 Day Trial
Selling Templar BPO's
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
495
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:37:00 -
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Arirana wrote:No joke GL finding corps that can field 16 without ringers and are not already in PC
It basically boils down to having 16 active members. If you don't have that, your corp isn't ready for PC. Aedtide only has 12 districts, were are not trying to fill a 24 district planet like Oddleuf. I think there are enough corps with the members to fill 12 districts. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
1021
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:57:00 -
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This sounds like it will be difficult to make, good luck.
Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous
You know what sucks?
Not being able to bump your own corp thread.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7539
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:21:00 -
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Hopefully this will actually work out this time.
I like the changes that state "You can't get on PFC if you don't own a district". Basically, this is a sandbox for the small corps to get their feet wet, instead of being like the last one, which we used to train our new guys.
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1024
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:43:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDK9QqIzhwk |
RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:00:00 -
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And for anyone reading.
Pfc has been nothing but a periodic setup to farm newer corps.
nothing more, nothing less.
This is what?, the 5th or 6th reaping?.
GL.
Wansktain @ Rekt
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CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:03:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Hopefully this will actually work out this time.
I like the changes that state "You can't get on PFC if you don't own a district". Basically, this is a sandbox for the small corps to get their feet wet, instead of being like the last one, which we used to train our new guys.
this should work out pretty well by just setting a small area for a couple new corps to get there feet wet. policeing it should not be to hard and would give many of us something to do besides the same 5 corps fighting every night. i would like to thank Hawkin and general tsos leadership for making this possible. i also see this as a area for all corps in PC to finally be able to get there new members some training without getting there heads blown off. o7 |
CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
66
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:06:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:And for anyone reading.
Pfc has been nothing but a periodic setup to farm newer corps.
nothing more, nothing less.
This is what?, the 5th or 6th reaping?.
GL. there is nothing to farm as these new corps will not be paying any isk for us protecting it.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:18:00 -
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When will this community learn?
There is only reason for a PFC for new corps if the barrier to entry was high. This is the perfect time for corps to pc since most of the talent has left. If they wanted to pc...they would jump at the opportunity to attack once everyone left.
> Check RND out here
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2095
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Posted - 2014.11.10 00:28:00 -
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Ydubbs,
Just because "most of the talent has left" doesn't mean the "barrier to entry" isn't still too high. Even if it is not, anything we can do to encourage smaller corps to participate is good from where I sit.
It was a good idea then, and it is a good idea now, IMO. What's the worst that can happen, PFC fail a 3rd time?
So I say bravo to those who helped with this effort....Leadfoot |
Eugene Killmore
Red Star. EoN.
439
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Posted - 2014.11.10 01:19:00 -
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Sign me up
EoN. #1 alliance of ALL TIME undefeated in bloc warfare ;)
Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
496
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Posted - 2014.11.10 01:29:00 -
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Eugene Killmore wrote:Sign me up
First come... |
CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
67
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Posted - 2014.11.10 01:38:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:When will this community learn?
There is only reason for a PFC for new corps if the barrier to entry was high. This is the perfect time for corps to pc since most of the talent has left. If they wanted to pc...they would jump at the opportunity to attack once everyone left. of course the barrier to get in PC is to high right now. upcoming corps cant clone pack there way in PC right now.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.10 01:41:00 -
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Arirana wrote:No joke GL finding corps that can field 16 without ringers and are not already in PC
Shut up you ******* *****.
That being said...
Are you **** heads going to try and tax us again? Or are we going to have to burn down PFC again?
Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5226
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Posted - 2014.11.10 02:12:00 -
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We might actually have to court corps for this.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.10 02:14:00 -
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CUSE WarLord wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:When will this community learn?
There is only reason for a PFC for new corps if the barrier to entry was high. This is the perfect time for corps to pc since most of the talent has left. If they wanted to pc...they would jump at the opportunity to attack once everyone left. of course the barrier to get in PC is to high right now. upcoming corps cant clone pack there way in PC right now.
But the blueberries spend so much ISK trying to win pubs, why wouldn't they be willing to invest 400-500 million ISK just to get a clear picture of what they need to work on in PC?
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3414
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Posted - 2014.11.10 02:36:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Ydubbs,
Learn what? Learn not to try and help corps get started in PC?
Just because "most of the talent has left" doesn't mean the "barrier to entry" isn't still too high. Even if they have and it is not, anything we can do to encourage smaller/newer corps to participate is good from where I sit.
What's the worst that can happen, PFC fail a 3rd time?
It was a good idea then, and I think it's still a good one now. Learning from the past, improvements have been made and there should be no claims of it being a protection racket in disguise.
So I say bravo to those who helped with this improved reimplementation of PFC, and I wish it nothing but success in increasing the number of players and corps who get to enjoy PC....Leadfoot
My viewpoint is this....those that wish to pc will try and pc. The barrier to entry is extremely low now...especially with so many corps giving away districts. Back then, new, small, or low skilled corps had to fight powerhouses in order to cap a district and keep it. I don't know who the powerhouses are now except for FA and MuLa but it doesn't seem like they would bully those sort of corps so why can't those corps launch an attack and compete? I'll tell you why...it's because they don't have competitive spirits. Pubbing satisfies all of their needs.
PFC takes away the conquest aspect of planetary conquest. I just don't like the idea of districts are safe from everyone. If this is going to happen again then pfc corps should be able to take other pfc corps.
> Check RND out here
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3414
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Posted - 2014.11.10 02:38:00 -
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CUSE WarLord wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:When will this community learn?
There is only reason for a PFC for new corps if the barrier to entry was high. This is the perfect time for corps to pc since most of the talent has left. If they wanted to pc...they would jump at the opportunity to attack once everyone left. of course the barrier to get in PC is to high right now. upcoming corps cant clone pack there way in PC right now.
barrier to entry is low....all they have to do is ask TSO for a district. Or, they could launch at some of the corps that they could compete with. There are players that I see in pubs that don't pc at all...I'm certain that there could be a corp or two or three made from them. They choose not to pc. Pubstomping is what they'd rather do.
> Check RND out here
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LionTurtle91
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.10 03:08:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote: they don't have competitive spirits.
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Jynx'D
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.11.10 03:17:00 -
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There isn't much reason to have spirit other then for the sake of owning a planet, and the logistics actually required to getting one isn't worth the lack of reward to newer corps.
It's all about bragging rights, and beyond the people who post on the forums, no one cares. ISK was the incentive to want to get better and join the rich leagues - but now that's gone, and so has the incentive. Now, what PC is rich guys wanting to blow ISK on something better then Pub matches.
The only way to revive it is to revive the spirit among the corps presently in PC - with alliances holding 2-3 teams that could smash any small corp trying, it ruins the incentive further. Why try if you know in the end, you will lose?
I'm not saying it's up to vet corps to do something, but something can be done, and PFC is not the answer. |
A-P-P-Baby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
184
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Posted - 2014.11.10 04:20:00 -
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Jynx'D wrote:There isn't much reason to have spirit other then for the sake of owning a planet, and the logistics actually required to getting one isn't worth the lack of reward to newer corps.
It's all about bragging rights, and beyond the people who post on the forums, no one cares. ISK was the incentive to want to get better and join the rich leagues - but now that's gone, and so has the incentive. Now, what PC is rich guys wanting to blow ISK on something better then Pub matches.
The only way to revive it is to revive the spirit among the corps presently in PC - with alliances holding 2-3 teams that could smash any small corp trying, it ruins the incentive further. Why try if you know in the end, you will lose?
I'm not saying it's up to vet corps to do something, but something can be done, and PFC is not the answer. Clan vs clan / corp vs corp is the reason.
What else is there? That is the reason to join a corp. to play with them in an organized setting vs other corps. Same as clan battles in any other game. Take ISK away from this game and what've you got? Friends grouping up to shoot other groups of friends in the face. Nobody wants to deal with blue dots all the time.
They call me "Mr. Vacation"...
I used to be relevant, but I learned to delegate so I could island hop
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
496
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Posted - 2014.11.10 04:29:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote: My viewpoint is this....those that wish to pc will try and pc. The barrier to entry is extremely low now...especially with so many corps giving away districts.
The barrier is NOT low. It cost 50 mill just to attack. 100-150mil to take a district which is nearly impossible!!!! |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
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Posted - 2014.11.10 05:45:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:CUSE WarLord wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:When will this community learn?
There is only reason for a PFC for new corps if the barrier to entry was high. This is the perfect time for corps to pc since most of the talent has left. If they wanted to pc...they would jump at the opportunity to attack once everyone left. of course the barrier to get in PC is to high right now. upcoming corps cant clone pack there way in PC right now. barrier to entry is low....all they have to do is ask TSO for a district. Or, they could launch at some of the corps that they could compete with. There are players that I see in pubs that don't pc at all...I'm certain that there could be a corp or two or three made from them. They choose not to pc. Pubstomping is what they'd rather do. most don't know they can just ask for a district and get it.
Many districts if you wanted to flip with a clone pack would cost around 150m and that is not chump change to CEO's of new corps it's a large risk.
NEG1
EVE 21 Day Trial
Selling Templar BPO's
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
3400
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Posted - 2014.11.10 06:41:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:When will this community learn?
There is only reason for a PFC for new corps if the barrier to entry was high. This is the perfect time for corps to pc since most of the talent has left. If they wanted to pc...they would jump at the opportunity to attack once everyone left. This This and most of all this...
http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
3400
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Posted - 2014.11.10 06:43:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote: My viewpoint is this....those that wish to pc will try and pc. The barrier to entry is extremely low now...especially with so many corps giving away districts.
The barrier is NOT low. It cost 50 mill just to attack. 100-150mil to take a district which is nearly impossible!!!! ffs you all were giving land away as long as you knew the right people, so it was 50 M
http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
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CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.10 07:49:00 -
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clearly people don't understand the current status of the game. ain't no new corp going to come out of no where and clone pack there way into PC. as i give a district to a corp it gets attacked 2 hours later by the next day that corp loses the district. this gave the corp one battle of PC experience and then there out the door. without a doubt if something is not done PC will die in a couple months. the same 4 or 5 corps fighting each other has made everyone bored and it may be time to just move on to a different game. has nothing to do with competitive spirit because 99% of the dust population never had it to begin with. people have been blue donuting it up and bandwagoning to the top corp forever never wanting a good fight. i look at some of the applications of people that try to join my corp and i see a corp history of 70 different corps. without a couple people that stayed true to there corp and fought the donuts there never would have been a game in the first place. |
Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
446
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Posted - 2014.11.10 14:04:00 -
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Sign Bloodline Rebellion, WarRavens, 1.U.P, Pure Evil and S.A.L.U.K.I. in.
Take a bow
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1029
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Posted - 2014.11.10 15:15:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Sign Bloodline Rebellion, WarRavens, 1.U.P, Pure Evil and S.A.L.U.K.I. in.
lolCP |
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