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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:21:00 -
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Hopefully this will actually work out this time.
I like the changes that state "You can't get on PFC if you don't own a district". Basically, this is a sandbox for the small corps to get their feet wet, instead of being like the last one, which we used to train our new guys.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.11 05:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:PFC's concept is flawed in the sense that your pitting players who aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district against players who also aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district.
It's like fighting you're little brother in an attempt to get stronger. If the only thing scrub corps there ever do is fight scrub corps, how will their experience help them against anything other than a scrub corp? And if they can't fight anything other than scrub corps, wouldn't that make their time spent on PFC worthless?
Personally, I think it would be healthier for corps NOT to participate in PFC for that above reason.reason.
Better than getting horridly stomped by other teams.
My hopes is that they will gradually "learn" how to PC playing eachother. Like how we did.
"Oh hey, putting heavies on the point really helps"
"They keep sending someone to take our homepoint. Maybe we should put someone on it just in case?"
"Man, that Dropship is annoying. Lets just have a tank drive around and make sure he can't harass infantry"
I'm sure it will take awhile, but if they want to win, they will gradually learn what they need to do. Either through getting advice from top tier corps or by serendipity.
It's like other major sports. You don't play teams far better than you to get better. You watch them play, copy their moves, and attempt to use them on your skrim team or against opponents. That is how you improve.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7680
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Posted - 2014.11.13 04:59:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Atiim wrote:PFC's concept is flawed in the sense that your pitting players who aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district against players who also aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district.
It's like fighting you're little brother in an attempt to get stronger. If the only thing scrub corps there ever do is fight scrub corps, how will their experience help them against anything other than a scrub corp? And if they can't fight anything other than scrub corps, wouldn't that make their time spent on PFC worthless?
Personally, I think it would be healthier for corps NOT to participate in PFC for that above reason.reason. Second this... I'm from the *ahem* old school pc days where nothing was handed to you. If you wanted in, you had to STD and BPO gear grind ISK in pubs and work on your talent and strategies. If you weren't that good of a corp or were being targeted by a much more superior corp, then you get help. If you didn't want to draw too much attention, then you lay low and you forge relationships. Some of the best corps forged relationships and back alley deals to stay alive in MH. I'd like someone to show me how any version of PFC helped a corp to be healthy in pc. I can't think of any corp that survived outside of PFC. You want to help bring more corps into pc? Fine...actively recruit them into your alliance and mentor them. If any new corp wants to pc they would find a way. They don't because they choose not to...barrier to pc is at its all time low now.
Ah, the early days of the Omega Commission.
I remember when most of that money was spent trying to keep our tankers running 
What he said still holds true. If your corp really wants to get into PC, it will take a lot of risk and sacrifice. You will have 100% tax days or just have every donate a lot. You will sync into matches and work on synergy. You will have to bust your ass to get into that first PC and make it NOT a giant waste of time.
It still holds true. If you want into PC, all you need is 32 active players who are WILLING to get into PC.
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7746
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Posted - 2014.11.13 23:13:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Atiim wrote:PFC's concept is flawed in the sense that your pitting players who aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district against players who also aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district.
It's like fighting you're little brother in an attempt to get stronger. If the only thing scrub corps there ever do is fight scrub corps, how will their experience help them against anything other than a scrub corp? And if they can't fight anything other than scrub corps, wouldn't that make their time spent on PFC worthless?
Personally, I think it would be healthier for corps NOT to participate in PFC for that above reason.reason. Second this... I'm from the *ahem* old school pc days where nothing was handed to you. If you wanted in, you had to STD and BPO gear grind ISK in pubs and work on your talent and strategies. If you weren't that good of a corp or were being targeted by a much more superior corp, then you get help. If you didn't want to draw too much attention, then you lay low and you forge relationships. Some of the best corps forged relationships and back alley deals to stay alive in MH. I'd like someone to show me how any version of PFC helped a corp to be healthy in pc. I can't think of any corp that survived outside of PFC. You want to help bring more corps into pc? Fine...actively recruit them into your alliance and mentor them. If any new corp wants to pc they would find a way. They don't because they choose not to...barrier to pc is at its all time low now. Ah, the early days of the Omega Commission. I remember when most of that money was spent trying to keep our tankers running What he said still holds true. If your corp really wants to get into PC, it will take a lot of risk and sacrifice. You will have 100% tax days or just have every donate a lot. You will sync into matches and work on synergy. You will have to bust your ass to get into that first PC and make it NOT a giant waste of time. It still holds true. If you want into PC, all you need is 32 active players who are WILLING to get into PC. The Omega Commission :D! Which corp were you in?
I was in Intrepidus XI. I'm also one the few people left in that corp that still play.
Only ones I can think of are Dominus Fatali, Jade Tech and myself.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7805
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Posted - 2014.11.14 17:03:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Her Chosen wrote:PFC doesn't work. If anything, it'll be the minor leagues for the biggest corps to recruit what few good players are undiscovered in this game.
Comparing old school DUST to today is stupid vet syndrome. There wasn't a multimillion SP gap back then between players. And less roles to choose from. PC and DUST were much easier back then.
PFC will at least be fun for talented corps who missed the money train. I played PFC1.0, it was fun, but there's no teaching and bettering already junk corps. You'll learn more by playing pubs individual with PC players, and ringing in a PC time-to-time. 8213 is your main banned?
I hope not, this is the same guy who said strafing is gamebreaking and that sidearms should have an 80% damage nerf.
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