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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.10 02:12:00 -
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We might actually have to court corps for this.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.10 02:14:00 -
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CUSE WarLord wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:When will this community learn?
There is only reason for a PFC for new corps if the barrier to entry was high. This is the perfect time for corps to pc since most of the talent has left. If they wanted to pc...they would jump at the opportunity to attack once everyone left. of course the barrier to get in PC is to high right now. upcoming corps cant clone pack there way in PC right now.
But the blueberries spend so much ISK trying to win pubs, why wouldn't they be willing to invest 400-500 million ISK just to get a clear picture of what they need to work on in PC?
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.14 16:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:PFC's concept is flawed in the sense that your pitting players who aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district against players who also aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district.
It's like fighting you're little brother in an attempt to get stronger. If the only thing scrub corps there ever do is fight scrub corps, how will their experience help them against anything other than a scrub corp? And if they can't fight anything other than scrub corps, wouldn't that make their time spent on PFC worthless?
Personally, I think it would be healthier for corps NOT to participate in PFC for that above reason.reason.
Worst case there are players within those organizations that enjoy PC and find corporations that are more experienced. Anything to get more players involved in it is good.
Hard to believe that still needs to be explained.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5271
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Posted - 2014.11.14 16:09:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Atiim wrote:PFC's concept is flawed in the sense that your pitting players who aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district against players who also aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district.
It's like fighting you're little brother in an attempt to get stronger. If the only thing scrub corps there ever do is fight scrub corps, how will their experience help them against anything other than a scrub corp? And if they can't fight anything other than scrub corps, wouldn't that make their time spent on PFC worthless?
Personally, I think it would be healthier for corps NOT to participate in PFC for that above reason.reason. Second this... I'm from the *ahem* old school pc days where nothing was handed to you. If you wanted in, you had to STD and BPO gear grind ISK in pubs and work on your talent and strategies. If you weren't that good of a corp or were being targeted by a much more superior corp, then you get help. If you didn't want to draw too much attention, then you lay low and you forge relationships. Some of the best corps forged relationships and back alley deals to stay alive in MH. I'd like someone to show me how any version of PFC helped a corp to be healthy in pc. I can't think of any corp that survived outside of PFC. You want to help bring more corps into pc? Fine...actively recruit them into your alliance and mentor them. If any new corp wants to pc they would find a way. They don't because they choose not to...barrier to pc is at its all time low now.
What does it hurt?
You've been steadfast in your beliefs on the entry to PC for noobs, yet participation levels continue to decline. At what point does it actually start to sink in that maybe you are wrong?
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:54:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Atiim wrote:PFC's concept is flawed in the sense that your pitting players who aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district against players who also aren't good enough to hold and maintain a district.
It's like fighting you're little brother in an attempt to get stronger. If the only thing scrub corps there ever do is fight scrub corps, how will their experience help them against anything other than a scrub corp? And if they can't fight anything other than scrub corps, wouldn't that make their time spent on PFC worthless?
Personally, I think it would be healthier for corps NOT to participate in PFC for that above reason.reason. Second this... I'm from the *ahem* old school pc days where nothing was handed to you. If you wanted in, you had to STD and BPO gear grind ISK in pubs and work on your talent and strategies. If you weren't that good of a corp or were being targeted by a much more superior corp, then you get help. If you didn't want to draw too much attention, then you lay low and you forge relationships. Some of the best corps forged relationships and back alley deals to stay alive in MH. I'd like someone to show me how any version of PFC helped a corp to be healthy in pc. I can't think of any corp that survived outside of PFC. You want to help bring more corps into pc? Fine...actively recruit them into your alliance and mentor them. If any new corp wants to pc they would find a way. They don't because they choose not to...barrier to pc is at its all time low now. What does it hurt? You've been steadfast in your beliefs on the entry to PC for noobs, yet participation levels continue to decline. At what point does it actually start to sink in that maybe you are wrong? It's hard to get a Corp going that is even TCR quality, lest a Molon or Ahrendee That the thing, most newbs do not have the level of dedication, caring, know-how, connections, and all that good stuff. That's not even touching upon how ****** PC is and it's reputation for being a sink The old groups leaving due to Rogue Wedding and Passive ISK dying really kicked PC in the balls by removing so many old folks.
Exactly and even in that scenario you end up with some of those people becoming involved in PC. There's a lot more than PFC needed to get the masses interested in team play, but overall it's a net gain. I'm not all that sure if it's worth the effort or not though.
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