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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.11.05 00:57:00 -
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I'm raging.
What am I supposed to do when I get the 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED' message? Seriously, there's nothing I can do. Min Scout has **** ewar, and I don't have proto damps. I can't get under it. Then I have 16 guys all shooting at me. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas, because atm it's damp or die for Scouts. Seriously, atm I just feel like I don't want to play anymore. I actually ragequitted.
I prefer 1.8. There, I said it.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
243
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:02:00 -
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Koch Rosenzweig
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
29
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:02:00 -
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I was running my scout on a ambush, walking around of a bunch on campers, with my remotes ready. but what happened? when i jump from behind all of those scrubs was waiting for me... i just said WTF
Huh, what a pretty biotic a$$. *Slap*
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1586
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:03:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I'm raging.
What am I supposed to do when I get the 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED' message? Seriously, there's nothing I can do. Min Scout has **** ewar, and I don't have proto damps. I can't get under it. Then I have 16 guys all shooting at me. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas, because atm it's damp or die for Scouts. Seriously, atm I just feel like I don't want to play anymore. I actually ragequitted.
I prefer 1.8. There, I said it. minja isnt an ewar scout its a Scout scout.. scout like TF2.. aka squishy but hit hard hit fast and GTFO
ps. raise your ewar skills to L5 to avoid scrub scans
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1120
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:05:00 -
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theres always a home for you filthy degenerates in the amarr salt mines if you cant handle it.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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Vicious Minotaur
1288
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:05:00 -
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Either tank up your Scout, run medium/heavy suits, or take a break until CCP fixes things.
I've abandoned my Scouts in favor for Commandos and Logis.
I am a minotaur.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4367
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:05:00 -
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How about get proto damps
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
562
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:06:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I'm raging.
What am I supposed to do when I get the 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED' message? Seriously, there's nothing I can do. Min Scout has **** ewar, and I don't have proto damps. I can't get under it. Then I have 16 guys all shooting at me. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas, because atm it's damp or die for Scouts. Seriously, atm I just feel like I don't want to play anymore. I actually ragequitted.
I prefer 1.8. There, I said it. minja isnt an ewar scout its a Scout scout.. scout like TF2.. aka squishy but hit hard hit fast and GTFO ps. raise your ewar skills to L5 to avoid scrub scans It doesn't matter anymore. Unless you load on the damps, they see you coming now. All 16 of them. W. T. F.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
661
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:07:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I'm raging.
. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas,
Isn't that a good thing? You should have to pick between ewar or HP. No more of this "best of all worlds" where you are fastest, smallest hitbox, invisible, and have almost as much HP as a f***ing Commando.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
5452
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:07:00 -
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Run starter fits in pubs til you get the SP for level 5 damps.
There is a reason a lot of us scouts say skilling fully into damps is the number 1 priority for scouts.
Now you found out why.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
5452
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:08:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I'm raging.
. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas,
Isn't that a good thing? You should have to pick between ewar or HP. No more of this "best of all worlds" where you are fastest, smallest hitbox, invisible, and have almost as much HP as a f***ing Commando. He isn't choosing HP, he is choosing Speed.
As if there weren't enough problems wanting to fit KCs, now its not even a viable play style.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
562
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:09:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:How about get proto damps I don't even wanna run Proto damps. I wanna run kincats. If you're using damps on a min scout, it kind of defeats the purpose. You can't even run codebreakers effectively now, because you light up 100m away from the objective to everyone.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
562
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:11:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I'm raging.
. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas,
Isn't that a good thing? You should have to pick between ewar or HP. No more of this "best of all worlds" where you are fastest, smallest hitbox, invisible, and have almost as much HP as a f***ing Commando. He isn't choosing HP, he is choosing Speed. As if there weren't enough problems wanting to fit KCs, now its not even a viable play style. ******* THANK YOU.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17602
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:12:00 -
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Ahem.
Acknowledged you been scanned is the first part.
Second part do not panic
Third part involves stabbing the scanner; particularly his eyes out.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
562
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:14:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Ahem.
Acknowledged you been scanned is the first part.
Second part do not panic
Third part involves stabbing the scanner; particularly his eyes out. Have you actually played since 1.9 deployed?
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
292
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:15:00 -
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At this rate they're going to have to dampen all scouts passively just so they can retain their other abilities.
Either way, you shouldn't be getting scanned by non-Gal Logi scans if you're under 28 dB.
Unless passive scans are also shared with the team now?
Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4371
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:21:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:How about get proto damps I don't even wanna run Proto damps. I wanna run kincats. If you're using damps on a min scout, it kind of defeats the purpose. You can't even run codebreakers effectively now, because you light up 100m away from the objective to everyone. Well it seems like a problem you just have now
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
662
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:22:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:
He isn't choosing HP, he is choosing Speed.
As if there weren't enough problems wanting to fit KCs, now its not even a viable play style.
O.K., sorry, I missed that point. However, what I stated is still valid. Whether you are wanting to run HP, Speed, etc, if you are running a scout you should have to use Dampeners or be seen on the tacnet like every other suit on the battlefield. It shouldn't be "I'm a scout so I'm invisible."
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
562
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:23:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:At this rate they're going to have to dampen all scouts passively just so they can retain their other abilities.
Either way, you shouldn't be getting scanned by non-Gal Logi scans if you're under 28 dB.
Unless passive scans are also shared with the team now? I'm not under 28db; I use kincats, not damps. My problem isn't with active scanners scaning me, it's that the scanners are team-share now. If you don't run damps, everyone knows where you are. Using kincats, or even codebreakers, on min scouts now is no longer a valid playstyle.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14195
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:23:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:theres always a home for you filthy degenerates in the amarr salt mines if you cant handle it.
We don't have salt mines.......anymore.
GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥
GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
442
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Ahem.
Acknowledged you been scanned is the first part.
Second part do not panic
Third part involves stabbing the scanner; particularly his eyes out. How exactly are you supposed to stab someone who knows exactly where you are? They aren't going to just sit there and do nothing about it, and even if they do, their entire team certainly won't.
As for dampening and speed? 2 CPX damps, 1 CPX KC, and ISH CLK. Fast, dampened, and ready to stab some mercs. The only thing to fear is the Focused scanner, in that case, come back in 10 seconds. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
5456
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:25:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:At this rate they're going to have to dampen all scouts passively just so they can retain their other abilities.
Either way, you shouldn't be getting scanned by non-Gal Logi scans if you're under 28 dB.
Unless passive scans are also shared with the team now? I think part of the issue is that many of the scouts previously hadn't been actually dampening.
I know I would run many pubs in my undampened Quaffe suit without much problem. Only occasionally running into scouts the enough precision to see me.
Now those scouts that didn't hardly dampen before are finding themselves in need to do so.
I don't have a problem with the precision level of active scans or team sharing, but I think its too much if its spammed relentlessly.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
662
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:26:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:How about get proto damps I don't even wanna run Proto damps. I wanna run kincats. If you're using damps on a min scout, it kind of defeats the purpose. You can't even run codebreakers effectively now, because you light up 100m away from the objective to everyone.
Well I don't wanna run armor or shield mods on my Logi, but if I don't I can't ***** because I die too quickly because of a lack of HP. All because "you don't wanna" do something, it doesn't mean it isn't viable and a legit balancing system.
Personally I LOVED playing today. I still had a few scouts get up on me and instagank without me seeing them, but for the most part I was able to at least have a CHANCE before I was whacked, and even killed a couple back.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
562
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:29:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
He isn't choosing HP, he is choosing Speed.
As if there weren't enough problems wanting to fit KCs, now its not even a viable play style.
O.K., sorry, I missed that point. However, what I stated is still valid. Whether you are wanting to run HP, Speed, etc, if you are running a scout you should have to use Dampeners or be seen on the tacnet like every other suit on the battlefield. It shouldn't be "I'm a scout so I'm invisible." Again, my problem isn't that I can be scanned whilst running kincats, it's that my location is displayed to the whole team. And until I get Proto damps, I don't see how my min scout can be effective anymore. Hell, I don't know if I even want to use it unless I can use kincats or codebreakers effectively. If I wanted to dampen, I 'd use the Gal or Cal Scouts. 1.9 will be the death of the minja.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
442
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:34:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
He isn't choosing HP, he is choosing Speed.
As if there weren't enough problems wanting to fit KCs, now its not even a viable play style.
O.K., sorry, I missed that point. However, what I stated is still valid. Whether you are wanting to run HP, Speed, etc, if you are running a scout you should have to use Dampeners or be seen on the tacnet like every other suit on the battlefield. It shouldn't be "I'm a scout so I'm invisible." Again, my problem isn't that I can be scanned whilst running kincats, it's that my location is displayed to the whole team. And until I get Proto damps, I don't see how my min scout can be effective anymore. Hell, I don't know if I even want to use it unless I can use kincats or codebreakers effectively. If I wanted to dampen, I 'd use the Gal or Cal Scouts. 1.9 will be the death of the minja. Everything is exactly the same with my Minja. Yes there are a few things that will need to be adjusted a bit (reduce effectiveness of team scans and move current scanners to squad, for example), but the Minja is still functional. You just can't rely on your innate profile as much anymore, as it should be, imo. |
KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5796
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:51:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I'm raging.
What am I supposed to do when I get the 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED' message? Seriously, there's nothing I can do. Min Scout has **** ewar, and I don't have proto damps. I can't get under it. Then I have 16 guys all shooting at me. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas, because atm it's damp or die for Scouts. Seriously, atm I just feel like I don't want to play anymore. I actually ragequitted.
I prefer 1.8. There, I said it.
Get damps. Feel good.Don't die
I think this is ok. Tanked Scouts will be what they are supposed to be. Invisible assaults that can be scanned.
I do feel you Minnie Bro. I love my Amarr scout but triple dampening it does gimp my fits. So i have to choose either Damp/Scan or EHP....
But hey. It aint too bad...XD
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
759
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:58:00 -
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I tried MinScount up to advanced. That thing is a beast to get used to. I used to use it as my main, but not anymore. I may have to pick it back up, as it used to be my life blood. I also never got a really good fit for it.
Don't worry too much about it. Just go scrub heavy mode on those matches where you feel like tearing your hair out.
Quafe
A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does,
So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
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Boot Booter
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
1029
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:59:00 -
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Even one advanced level damp on your min scout is enough to avoid most scans bar gal logis or focused duvolles . It's dust remember. **** changes, adapt or die. |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
715
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:01:00 -
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I have mixed feeling reading this thread but feel for the OP.
I can't speak for other scouts but my Gal scout was business as usual today.
I don't like labels but I am not sure what the hell a "real scout " is. I suspect it means one that isn't a threat.
I have max Ewar. I run 1 complex damp in pubs, which has always been enough. 2 Kin cats.
I was actively scanned 0 times all day. And I saw 1000 Heavy's if I saw 1.
Don't give up OP.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
565
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:06:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Even one advanced level damp on your min scout is enough to avoid most scans bar gal logis or focused duvolles . It's dust remember. **** changes, adapt or die. I have a fit that uses 2 enhanced damps, but it's still not enough.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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