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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:07:00 -
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Run starter fits in pubs til you get the SP for level 5 damps.
There is a reason a lot of us scouts say skilling fully into damps is the number 1 priority for scouts.
Now you found out why.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:08:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I'm raging.
. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas,
Isn't that a good thing? You should have to pick between ewar or HP. No more of this "best of all worlds" where you are fastest, smallest hitbox, invisible, and have almost as much HP as a f***ing Commando.
He isn't choosing HP, he is choosing Speed.
As if there weren't enough problems wanting to fit KCs, now its not even a viable play style.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:25:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:At this rate they're going to have to dampen all scouts passively just so they can retain their other abilities.
Either way, you shouldn't be getting scanned by non-Gal Logi scans if you're under 28 dB.
Unless passive scans are also shared with the team now?
I think part of the issue is that many of the scouts previously hadn't been actually dampening.
I know I would run many pubs in my undampened Quaffe suit without much problem. Only occasionally running into scouts the enough precision to see me.
Now those scouts that didn't hardly dampen before are finding themselves in need to do so.
I don't have a problem with the precision level of active scans or team sharing, but I think its too much if its spammed relentlessly.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:08:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I just hope that the scanner spam will die down at some point... 
It will, but really, you should always have a fit with max dampening in your selection.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:24:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I'm raging.
What am I supposed to do when I get the 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED' message? Seriously, there's nothing I can do. Min Scout has **** ewar, and I don't have proto damps. I can't get under it. Then I have 16 guys all shooting at me. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas, because atm it's damp or die for Scouts. Seriously, atm I just feel like I don't want to play anymore. I actually ragequitted.
I prefer 1.8. There, I said it. Scrub. Damp your fits or go home. I've never been without 2 damps on my fit, and no scout in their right mind should EVER be scanned. Run damps. You're a freaking scout. ADAPT OR DIE /end rant Are you even a min scout?
Ghost is old school. He was one of the few Minjas that were around prior to 1.8 that were really dedicated.
He is one of the best, right up there with Musturd and Lightening.
I definitely respect his views on playing a Minja.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.11.05 06:10:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I'm raging.
What am I supposed to do when I get the 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED' message? Seriously, there's nothing I can do. Min Scout has **** ewar, and I don't have proto damps. I can't get under it. Then I have 16 guys all shooting at me. Say goodbye to speed-tanked minjas, because atm it's damp or die for Scouts. Seriously, atm I just feel like I don't want to play anymore. I actually ragequitted.
I prefer 1.8. There, I said it. Yeah... I saw you rage quit when I signed on. It's the Team Scans, that are really getting ya. Welcome to Scout life back in Closed Beta. LOL You NEED a pair EN or Complex Damps in this current meta. As a minja, you will have to try and target the Logis and other players running scanning equipment. Team Scans + ISK payouts + BETTER BALANCE than EVER before, are really helping the fights out right now. The only way I can think to properly counter Team Scans as a NON-scout is to kill the scanning players as often as possible. I trust Rattati's judgement in bringing Team Scans back, but we need proper counters.
I think IWS made a good point in another thread that really should be highlighted more.
Given the relative number of hotfixes vs patches, its much easier for them to put in place as much as possible in a patch, then balance around that. I think that is what you are seeing with the scanners.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.11.05 06:48:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:One thing's for sure: With the mostly fixed hit detection, scouts can be hit as easily as medium frames. Took down a proto Cal scout with a hip-firing STD SMG, even as he started to strafe. And my Gal Scout was dead meat as soon as someone happens to see me evading. Never happened at that degree before.  So the haters can put their pitchforks down.
So the frame rate and other changes were that significant?
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.11.05 20:36:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I have no sympathy.
Dampen up or expect that people who make a serious effort to find you will find you. What am I supposed to do until I get Proto damps? Will I be able to run an ADV suit and avoid scans? Because I'm sure as hell not gonna run Proto suits just to avoid scans. Welp, at least we can sell stuff now; I can sell all my unviable kincats now! 
You could always take a break and let your passive SP do its thing.
Play some Ambushes in starter fits.
I played this afternoon in my Quaffe suit undampened and didn't have many problems today.
You kind of need to learn how to get through these periods, because they are going to happen. And if that means taking a break from the game as a whole, there is no harm in that.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:13:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:one of my passive bonus and any base bonus I have is for lowslot.......
And I'll still get scanned.......
Well I suppose I can just hack points all day......yeah.....codebreakers......lowslot.
*sigh* I'm going to have to start running proto again aren't I?
Adv + 2 code breakers and a pro cloak should do it for everything but Gal Logi scans
Nestil wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote:One thing's for sure: With the mostly fixed hit detection, scouts can be hit as easily as medium frames. Took down a proto Cal scout with a hip-firing STD SMG, even as he started to strafe. And my Gal Scout was dead meat as soon as someone happens to see me evading. Never happened at that degree before. So the haters can put their pitchforks down. So the frame rate and other changes were that significant? Yeah heavies shredded me into pieces today with std hmgs.... It never happened before that excessiv. And i had many occasions were i was killing proto cal scouts in an blink of an eye.
I noticed this a little when I played a few games today.
I may have to start using my CR again.
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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