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CUSE WarLord KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2014.11.04 17:53:00 - [31] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Who honestly thought caving to people who got a 'bad needle' once or twice was a good idea? These needle changes are completely moronic. you need to ask before you go Rambo reviving my body. bought time they put a stop to all these noobs running around with needles.
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 685	Posted - 2014.11.04 17:56:00 - [32] - Quote Meee One wrote: RayRay James wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: I want to die! It's my body and only I decide what happens to it. Not according to 46 of the 50 United States Murdering a baby and discarding a clone because it's convenient are two different things. Aborting a Baby has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Besides, abortion is legal in all 50 US states thanks to Roe vs Wade. Assisted Suicide, however, is what I was talking about. It is legal only in 5 states ( I missed one). OR, WA, MT, VT, and NM allow for doctor assisted suicide. Also: Joke Your head.
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 261	Posted - 2014.11.04 18:02:00 - [33] - Quote Absolutely amazing that players think they have the "right" to resus. You choose to run with needles instead of gun. Fine, no problem. Hope you get lots of WP, seriously. However, it is MY choice to be resus. Period. I don't need to feed your WP with my deaths, repeatedly. That's kinda like telling a raspberry to stand still so I can repeatedly shoot 'em down, just for the WP. Remember, you chose to be a Medic, I did not choose you to be one. And dying repeatedly doesn't get me any WP, but choosing to die quickly and return to fight more does. C.E.O. of G.R.A.V.E Battles on Youtube channel: G.R.A.V.E
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 165	Posted - 2014.11.04 18:03:00 - [34] - Quote all you have to do is press the x button and then the logi will press his o button when he gets near you. are you really complaining about having to press a button to let your team know you want revived? also play as strangeland stranger, larlac theest, gauntlett5487, and balacs sixkin
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 270	Posted - 2014.11.04 18:21:00 - [35] - Quote I think the change would have gone over easier if it had been done a little differently. Instead of making the call for help mandatory, they should have added a "terminate" button instead. That way someone who doesn't want a revive could move on, but new or cautions players could still be available if a logi spawns millisecond before they redeploy. I understand the situation isnt always idea, but to be honest, i kind of like it when im about to redeploy and blow more ISK on a suit....and get revived. Sometimes it happens perfectly where I get a last second revive in a 80,000ISK suit and I can then limp to a supply depot and resuit. Now im going to have to sit there and "call for help" for 20 seconds.
Riruodo Templar Investigative Commission 400	Posted - 2014.11.04 19:04:00 - [36] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: I get revived by dumbass needle-fishers OFTEN. Not once or twice, not even ten times. I can safely say that over my long Dust career, no fewer than one hundred deaths can be attributed to some stab-happy fuckwit. Screw your warpoints, I want to die! It's my body and only I decide what happens to it. See, this is why I hate running as a logi. People get mad at me if I don't revive them and they're sitting in the middle of a firefight and I'm having to take out that pesky scout with a shotgun... and then other times they get mad at me when I DO revive them and a sniper or something takes them out. So I revive them again because they are super close to getting to cover. And then they send me hatemail telling me I'm a stupid b****. So I'm like ok, I won't revive you. And spend the rest of the match watching little needle icons blink back and forth. So it goes both ways and I'll be happy to watch your clone be terminated. Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1540	Posted - 2014.11.04 19:10:00 - [37] - Quote Riruodo wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: I get revived by dumbass needle-fishers OFTEN. Not once or twice, not even ten times. I can safely say that over my long Dust career, no fewer than one hundred deaths can be attributed to some stab-happy fuckwit. Screw your warpoints, I want to die! It's my body and only I decide what happens to it. See, this is why I hate running as a logi. People get mad at me if I don't revive them and they're sitting in the middle of a firefight and I'm having to take out that pesky scout with a shotgun... and then other times they get mad at me when I DO revive them and a sniper or something takes them out. So I revive them again because they are super close to getting to cover. And then they send me hatemail telling me I'm a stupid b**. So I'm like ok, I won't revive you. And spend the rest of the match watching little needle icons blink back and forth. So it goes both ways and I'll be happy to watch your clone be terminated. I think I'm just going to remove all equipment from all of my characters for the next few weeks. Any time I need something I'm just going to turn around and walk back to the supply depot in my redline. If there isn't one, or it's been blown up I'm just going to afk the rest of the match. If I see a friendly nanohive I'll stand on it and throw grenades till it runs out. People within this game are so antagonistic towards anyone actually trying to be of assistance that its prettymuch a situation where I'm ready to throw my hands up in the air. It's astonishingly and truly frightening the amount of people are seriously missing the problem and the point here, because 'hurf durf KDR' & 'one time I got revived and it was awful' Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 262	Posted - 2014.11.04 20:32:00 - [38] - Quote :) In reality, I DO appreciate Logical Logi action. I just don't see that often. Don't give it up, just change it up a bit. Raspberries (including myself) will always watch for that member being resus'd just to get that easy kill (and, admittedly, it does give me a bit of a chuckle when they repeatedly get resus'd and shot back down). And, I don't ever worry about how someone else views my gameplay. It's my game, I'll play it the way I want to. As I expect everyone else to do. So to all Logi's -- thank you for resus'n me when I'm not under heavy fire ! C.E.O. of G.R.A.V.E Battles on Youtube channel: G.R.A.V.E
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 786	Posted - 2014.11.04 20:38:00 - [39] - Quote All my many hours laughing and needle destroying your K/DR... culminated in this thread full of amazing tears. God bless pubbies and God bless CCP.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1541	Posted - 2014.11.04 20:40:00 - [40] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: All my many hours laughing and needle destroying your K/DR... culminated in this thread full of amazing tears. God bless pubbies and God bless CCP. Why are you dismissing legitimate valid complaints as tears? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 262	Posted - 2014.11.04 20:42:00 - [41] - Quote Oh, I forgot. NO, it's not my k/dr that is the issue. It is 100k+ suits that get insta-gibbed, repeatedly, that gets to me. C.E.O. of G.R.A.V.E Battles on Youtube channel: G.R.A.V.E
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 901	Posted - 2014.11.04 20:52:00 - [42] - Quote FraggerMike wrote: Oh, I forgot. NO, it's not my k/dr that is the issue. It is 100k+ suits that get insta-gibbed, repeatedly, that gets to me. You dont lose a suit when being revived, so k/d r is the only thing that takes a hit. If its the 100k you are worried about, you wouldnt mind being revived 100 times if it saves the suit.. Edit: also I use a proto needle so a 100k suit sure wont be instagibbed. I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2246	Posted - 2014.11.04 20:58:00 - [43] - Quote I always got way more points from a repair tool than an injector, to the point where I often just didn't carry one unless people in my squad were planning to use really nice gear and stick together. I'm not sure that I really agree with the change though, even if it does put and end to tubthumping (killing a friendly then reviving him over and over) which was an extremely rare occurrence and did nothing but damage the pride of the victim. Who frequently deserved it. What this is probably going to do is further dumb down the strategic part of pub battles, where the conservation of clones and equipment matters. The KDR chasers will always let themselves bleed out while being completely ignorant of the fact that they're hurting their team and that there's a dude with a 100% heal needle right behind them. These things are what makes using really expensive gear viable.
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 787	Posted - 2014.11.04 20:58:00 - [44] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: All my many hours laughing and needle destroying your K/DR... culminated in this thread full of amazing tears. God bless pubbies and God bless CCP. Why are you dismissing legitimate valid complaints as tears? When I said 'your' I was using it in the royal 'we' sense. AKA everyone who's super angry about losing K/D to being needle diddled. Not you as in the OP. Fun Fact: Goons bitched about needling years ago and wanted needles to both be effective and useful and NOT a hated object. Instead CCP was silent, so we abused needles. Now we have what we have today, awful bandaid fix and this thread full of people who would rather cut off the nose to spite the face. Simply amazing. :slowclap:
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 971	Posted - 2014.11.04 21:33:00 - [45] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: I love this thread. "I'm right, everything is about me. If it wasn't a problem for me, it wasn't a problem for anyone. Anyone who disagrees is stupid. Also, real life comparisons are valid." Nice logic, MINA. Protip: flaming people and demonstrating self-centered thinking reduces credibility. Even if you're right, I'm not inclined to see your point with that attitude of yours. It's just how debates work. MINA Longstrike wrote: It's astonishingly and truly frightening the amount of people are seriously missing the problem and the point here Sorry yeah I would've looked harder but couldn't see past all your vitriol. You should listen to Sergeant Sazu. You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 161	Posted - 2014.11.04 21:33:00 - [46] - Quote Remove needle change. Re-create an anti-nanite injector abuse mechanism A person who revives a player with an injector will not get the warpoints from doing so until the other player has survived at least 3 or so seconds. If they have survived less then 3 or so seconds the reviver will not be given warpoints and no one will be able to revive that player's clone for the same amount of time it needed to stay alive (3 seconds) Problem solved. KD/R whores can go commit seppuku to ruin the ratio for all we care. Yes it's going to be an extremely bad change and further disbalance logistics gameplay. But you're wasting your time, Mina. Don't stress yourself that much. Besides that some people will just be trolling you on this post. Insane but good way to clean dust of lowlifes: Anyone sniping from their redline gets biomassed
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14165	Posted - 2014.11.04 21:37:00 - [47] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: FraggerMike wrote: Oh, I forgot. NO, it's not my k/dr that is the issue. It is 100k+ suits that get insta-gibbed, repeatedly, that gets to me. You dont lose a suit when being revived, so k/d r is the only thing that takes a hit. If its the 100k you are worried about, you wouldnt mind being revived 100 times if it saves the suit.. Edit: also I use a proto needle so a 100k suit sure wont be instagibbed. True enough. But personally its not KDR that gets me annoyed about being needled...... it's the genuine lack of thought this other players has put into the whole exercise. God knows I appreciate your bravery and nerves of steel for rushing to my aid under fire...... but seriously why are you resuscitating me if we are both very likely to die instantly. It's now not the loss of one clone its probably 2. GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 421	Posted - 2014.11.04 21:41:00 - [48] - Quote I'm having a hard time seeing the issue here, **** them let them die. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9097	Posted - 2014.11.04 21:57:00 - [49] - Quote Is there even a negative to getting revived only to get killed instantly? Best case if getting revived in crossfire is you save a suit and the team a clone. Worst case? You're right back where you were before the revive. It is 2014 people, online shooters have been a modern day staple in our society for several years now. I can't believe so many people still care about KDR. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1581	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:00:00 - [50] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Who honestly thought caving to people who got a 'bad needle' once or twice was a good idea? These needle changes are completely moronic. i agree somewhat.. there should be an auto call for help after 5-10 seconds or something.. in FW however we are more knowledgeable so keep it as is for FW so we can avoid A-hole awoxers chain killing us [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1581	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:00:00 - [51] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Is there even a negative to getting revived only to get killed instantly? Best case if getting revived in crossfire is you save a suit and the team a clone. Worst case? You're right back where you were before the revive. It is 2014 people, online shooters have been a modern day staple in our society for several years now. I can't believe so many people still care about KDR. yes, every time you get downed thats +1 death [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14170	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:02:00 - [52] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Is there even a negative to getting revived only to get killed instantly? Best case if getting revived in crossfire is you save a suit and the team a clone. Worst case? You're right back where you were before the revive. It is 2014 people, online shooters have been a modern day staple in our society for several years now. I can't believe so many people still care about KDR. Of course there is no down side but its pointless if you **** it up. GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9097	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:02:00 - [53] - Quote True Adamance wrote: P14GU3 wrote: FraggerMike wrote: Oh, I forgot. NO, it's not my k/dr that is the issue. It is 100k+ suits that get insta-gibbed, repeatedly, that gets to me. You dont lose a suit when being revived, so k/d r is the only thing that takes a hit. If its the 100k you are worried about, you wouldnt mind being revived 100 times if it saves the suit.. Edit: also I use a proto needle so a 100k suit sure wont be instagibbed. True enough. But personally its not KDR that gets me annoyed about being needled...... it's the genuine lack of thought this other players has put into the whole exercise. God knows I appreciate your bravery and nerves of steel for rushing to my aid under fire...... but seriously why are you resuscitating me if we are both very likely to die instantly. It's now not the loss of one clone its probably 2. If I think I'll for trying to res you I will let you die, but he'll if I can easily get to you and reVive you I will, even if three are a lot of enemies nearby, because see my post above. Even if it's more likely you'll die, there is no negative to anyone for that except your KDR, and maybe you'll get lucky and live. I've revived enough people in crossfire (with 80%) to know you survive these situations alot more than you think. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9097	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:04:00 - [54] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Is there even a negative to getting revived only to get killed instantly? Best case if getting revived in crossfire is you save a suit and the team a clone. Worst case? You're right back where you were before the revive. It is 2014 people, online shooters have been a modern day staple in our society for several years now. I can't believe so many people still care about KDR. Of course there is no down side but its pointless if you **** it up. And what if you don't? Worst case: We're right back where we started. Best case: You survive and save our team a clone. It is an absolutely 0 risk move to benefit the team. So why not? Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1244	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:05:00 - [55] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Meee One wrote: RayRay James wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: I want to die! It's my body and only I decide what happens to it. Not according to 46 of the 50 United States Murdering a baby and discarding a clone because it's convenient are two different things. Under the law, abortion isn't murder. Your specific take on it might be that it is murder, but that's irrelevant to this discussion. Also, aborting a Baby has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Besides, abortion is legal in all 50 US states thanks to Roe vs Wade. Assisted Suicide, however, is what I was talking about. It is legal only in 5 states ( I missed one). OR, WA, MT, VT, and NM allow for doctor assisted suicide. That's where my (now edited) "Not according to 45 of the 50 United States" comment came from. Also: Joke Your head. Oh,if that's what your talking about then i can tell you why. We are all born slaves. Consider the following: -you are assigned your name,you don't choose it -you are assigned a number (in the US,your SSN) -you are tax deductible (like a business expense such as a car) -you are forced to follow 'rules' (laws) that you never agreed to -if you disobey those "rules",taskmasters are sent after you to hurt you and have permission from a third party you don't even know to kill you if you refuse them and try to remain free -these taskmasters can then throw you into a cage (like an animal) -the taskmasters decide when you can leave said cage,if you try to leave early they will kill you -there is no such thing as selfdefense when it comes to taskmasters,if you try to defend yourself they only get more violent -taskmasters are seen as "Heros" and any that disagree are automatically "villians" So you see,just because you can't see the bars,it doesn't mean they aren't there. You are owned,which is why you need your masters permission to do self harm. This permission is laws. Blow your mind? Thought so. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1310	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:10:00 - [56] - Quote i knew this one logi who will probably quit.. he has like a 0.08 KDR his whole playstyle revolved around going 1rst place with dirty needle despite his pathetic KDR and everyone elses. sad thing is he's not even a troll he seriously considered himself the best player because of his dirty WP. no sympathy for his type, none. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14171	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:16:00 - [57] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Is there even a negative to getting revived only to get killed instantly? Best case if getting revived in crossfire is you save a suit and the team a clone. Worst case? You're right back where you were before the revive. It is 2014 people, online shooters have been a modern day staple in our society for several years now. I can't believe so many people still care about KDR. Of course there is no down side but its pointless if you **** it up. And what if you don't? Worst case: We're right back where we started. Best case: You survive and save our team a clone. It is an absolutely 0 risk move to benefit the team. So why not? Eh I'll do what I'm told you are the squad leader after all. Primarily one of the reasons I now am permanent tanker in solo games. I don't have to deal with that irksome mechanic. GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
Riruodo Templar Investigative Commission 410	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:18:00 - [58] - Quote since we're on the topic of logis, did CCP release the Quafe logi set? Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 421	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:20:00 - [59] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: **** them let them die . Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1311	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:27:00 - [60] - Quote most of the time i don't even like my team they deserve no WP and certainly dont deserve a win.. also KDR is important for shutting down a noob running mouth in local AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012



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