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Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
208
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:16:00 -
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So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San
1 up
Lord British
etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP.
Watch your back because I might be there.
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Joel II X
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3836
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:18:00 -
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Dumb suggestion is dumb...
... and unrealistic. This is not how coding works. |
Taurion Bruni
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
275
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:19:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San
1 up
Lord British
etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP.
not all of the players from the "tryhard" corporations are able to play on the same competitive level as the rest of the corp. many are newer players that want to learn from them, so they most likely still get crushed when playing against a tryhard opponent.
It would be better to fix matchmaking to account for squads, perhaps if one team has a squad with X Mu points, then the other team needs a squad with the same combined MU points
Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault
Adapt or Die!
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Atiim
12995
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:25:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Dumb suggestion is dumb...
... and unrealistic. This is not how coding works.
It is very possible to assign a string labeled "tryhard" to a player.
In fact, CCP already has code for assigning titles to characters (DEV, GM, CPM, ISD). While they could make another, I'm 100% sure that they won't make a "try-hard" tag just for others to avoid them, that's what matchmaking is for.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
209
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:26:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Dumb suggestion is dumb...
... and unrealistic. This is not how coding works.
if (tryhardmatch=true)
{
join tryhardmatch
}
else
{
create tryhardmatch
};
done.
Watch your back because I might be there.
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Black SlaverX
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
209
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:38:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Joel II X wrote:Dumb suggestion is dumb...
... and unrealistic. This is not how coding works. It is very possible to assign a string labeled "tryhard" to a player. In fact, CCP already has code for assigning titles to characters (DEV, GM, CPM, ISD). While they could make another, I'm 100% sure that they won't make a "try-hard" tag just for others to avoid them, that's what matchmaking is for.
Wouldn't it be glorious though? God the amount of tears from the likes of duna (definitely an individual requiring the tryhard tag) and pretty much all of nyan san would just be glorious.
99% of the playerbase would like it and retention would go up.
Watch your back because I might be there.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
431
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:38:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San
1 up
Lord British
Moton Labe
etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP.
Try hards? that's how you see it. I like facing a good team, as long as both teams are balanced.
The battles when I have a full squad of my corp vs one of the corps you've stated are usually fun, although laggy at times.
Just a wild guess but I think OP likes smashing MLT frames and backs out of matches where he finds a squad of 3+ of the same corp on the other team.. |
Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
736
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:39:00 -
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I feel like this thread will descend into calling every Japanese corp tryhards. :/
The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P1.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18188
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:50:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:Joel II X wrote:Dumb suggestion is dumb...
... and unrealistic. This is not how coding works. if (tryhardmatch=true) { join tryhardmatch } else { create tryhardmatch }; done.
I am tolerably certain that it is not this simple and that this is also a terrible idea.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
334
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:51:00 -
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rofl
Take a bow
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13612
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:51:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San
1 up
Lord British
Moton Labe
etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP.
You wouldn't survive a hour in EVE.
HTFU
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Quasar Storm
0uter.Heaven
126
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:56:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San
1 up
Lord British
Moton Labe
etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP.
If you label me as a try-hard because of my tag, I'm sure most of you will, You'd be wrong. I'm just happy to log on & play with my 0.H family (The family that's left). I don't care care about winning anymore. Been there, Done that. For me now, Its a win to just be gaming with my 0.H comrades & having fun.
ADS & Tank pilot.
Drifting on Stormy Seas.
The "Eh" Team
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2000
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Posted - 2014.10.17 00:30:00 -
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I never understood this notion of trying too hard, I always thought the problem was an imbalance of the two teams? i.e 6 man proto organised squad vs 'that guy' blueberries?
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1096
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Posted - 2014.10.17 00:33:00 -
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Lord British are dirtbags i hate those scrubs. They play like *******
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
Pls fix SCR CCP
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
240
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Posted - 2014.10.17 00:40:00 -
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Does this anyway all I run into nyain San lord British and 1 up..always ends up an enjoyable fight
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
5439
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Posted - 2014.10.17 00:41:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:Atiim wrote:Joel II X wrote:Dumb suggestion is dumb...
... and unrealistic. This is not how coding works. It is very possible to assign a string labeled "tryhard" to a player. In fact, CCP already has code for assigning titles to characters (DEV, GM, CPM, ISD). While they could make another, I'm 100% sure that they won't make a "try-hard" tag just for others to avoid them, that's what matchmaking is for. Wouldn't it be glorious though? God the amount of tears from the likes of duna (definitely an individual requiring the tryhard tag) and pretty much all of nyan san would just be glorious. 99% of the playerbase would like it and retention would go up.
Your tears are already pretty glorious and no change needs to happen.
EVE 21 Day Trial
Templar BPOs EVE 2nd decade CE items
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Vengeance Unbound
663
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Posted - 2014.10.17 00:46:00 -
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They're not 'tryhards' they're playing the fuckin game. Winning each match, using proto if they feel like and most importantly, making you mad.
You wouldn't shoot a kid with glasses, would you? .l..
PSN: GMANCASH
Rage Proficiency V
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Dreis Shadowweaver
THE HANDS OF DEATH
RUST415
397
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Posted - 2014.10.17 00:54:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Dumb suggestion is dumb...
... and unrealistic. This is not how coding works.
But... Are you only saying that because the OP would slap the tryhard tag on you for being in Molon Labe.?
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1151
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Posted - 2014.10.17 01:05:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San
1 up
Lord British
Moton Labe
etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP.
start a tryhard thread..
Nyan San
1 up
Lord British
Molon Labe
G0DS among men
and so on..
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1151
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Posted - 2014.10.17 01:07:00 -
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Does this anyway all I run into nyain San lord British and 1 up..always ends up an enjoyable fight
you must like dropping your drawers... its always a face rapeing protostomp on a level unfortold before anything
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Hakyou Brutor
Second-Nature
1395
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Posted - 2014.10.17 01:15:00 -
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sign me up
i would also like to apply for the 'no skill scrub' tag, i believe i'm eligable |
Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
84
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Posted - 2014.10.17 01:23:00 -
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It's funny how people rage about Nyain when only about half of their corp is active. I've never played against/with Molon Labe, so I don't know about them, but i've played with some Nyain members, and mostly we just lolfitted commandos and stuff.
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1189
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Posted - 2014.10.17 04:31:00 -
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Don't do that, OP.
Calling someone a "tryhard" is a juvenile way of responding when another player is better than you.
Why not get to know some of those "tryhards"?
You might make friends, and learn a thing or two.
I've met and played with really cool players in this game from old school corps like TeamPlayers and the Imperfects.
It was great going into matches with Sleepy Zan, and chatting and talking about different sniper tactics and methods of approach for Scout Snipers. (This is back in the day when actually being a Scout was hard and imbalanced, whether you ran a shotgun, sniper, AR, or NK.)
It was cool doing old school "corp battles" with the Imperfects and learning and developing different kinds of tactics. From coordinated crossfires, to the established zones of control they were used in. Often our tactics would work, and we would win, and ALWAYS the Imperfects would adapt with a tactic of their own, and come back with a win. I absolutely miss playing with those guys.
Even today, you got great people that are great players. Someone earlier put that "tryhard" tag on even duna.
duna is a great player, and his corp has some cool people in it as well. His english isn't the best, but that doesn't matter. Just as soon as you shoot him or he shoot you, he would invite you to squad to play a few matches. Him and his crew are simply just incredibly cool people to hang out with.
All this "tryhard" nonsense is just not necessary.
Maybe these people aren't "trying hard", they're just playing smart; therefore forcing you to try hard.
Maybe they just hung out with each other long enough to understand that a squad isn't comprised of a bunch of random green dots running around without direction.
Maybe they understand that out of their squad, 3 of them--with decent enough aim worth the slightest damn-- can set up 3-way crossfire killing perimeter that is effective enough to lock down a whole segment of the map. Which is why you only FEEL like you're getting ganked.
Maybe they know how to take a sniper and 2 ground units, and lock nearly an entire enemy team within an objective.
Maybe... I'm wasting my time, and you're still going to convince yourself that the people that actually make this game worth playing, are the ones breaking it.
EDIT: More people came to mind. There are cool people in Nyain as well, that I squaded up with a few times that actually were trying to help new players. Giving them the basics on how to manage their isk, etc. Don't act like corps that enjoy the game are breaking anything. We need more like them. It's a great loss that so many good people, have stopped playing Dust, including folks from my own.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2181
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Posted - 2014.10.17 04:33:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San
1 up
Lord British
Moton Labe
etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP.
I support this.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Joel II X
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3847
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Posted - 2014.10.17 04:38:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Joel II X wrote:Dumb suggestion is dumb...
... and unrealistic. This is not how coding works. It is very possible to assign a string labeled "tryhard" to a player. In fact, CCP already has code for assigning titles to characters (DEV, GM, CPM, ISD). While they could make another, I'm 100% sure that they won't make a "try-hard" tag just for others to avoid them, that's what matchmaking is for.
It is very possible, but it's impossible to keep track and record of corporations that would be labeled as such. Corps tend to come and go, and so doing it for every corp would be a menial task, and thus, impossible.
I know how coding works. |
Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
531
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Posted - 2014.10.17 04:38:00 -
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Taurion Bruni wrote:
not all of the players from the "tryhard" corporations are able to play on the same competitive level as the rest of the corp. many are newer players that want to learn from them, so they most likely still get crushed when playing against a tryhard opponent.
That's how you learn... Plus there are other corps... |
RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1138
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Posted - 2014.10.17 04:45:00 -
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I try super hard.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
3803
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Posted - 2014.10.17 05:32:00 -
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On average we have 3-4 players on. Now what part of this is fair?
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REMNANCY 1
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2014.10.17 05:47:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:On average we have 3-4 players on. Now what part of this is fair?
About as fair as the rest of the damage the misbegotten filth that you are has caused |
jacoby dunewalker
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1
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Posted - 2014.10.17 06:43:00 -
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I've ran into more than a few protostomper squads. The best thing I can say is bring you "A" game and make them fight on your terms, not theirs. Is is hard, yes? Is it frustrating, absolutely. Is there a reason to label these players? No... I have ran with a small squad of "ok" players (myself included in this) and stomped the daylights out of the other team. Why? Organization and tactics. |
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