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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3803
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Posted - 2014.10.17 06:47:00 -
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REMNANCY 1 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:On average we have 3-4 players on. Now what part of this is fair? About as fair as the rest of the damage the misbegotten filth that you are has caused Huh?
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REMNANCY 1
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2014.10.17 07:09:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:REMNANCY 1 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:On average we have 3-4 players on. Now what part of this is fair? About as fair as the rest of the damage the misbegotten filth that you are has caused Huh? Seriously is there any doubt at all to the damage caused by NS and even the imps before them? |
Coleman Gray
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
1225
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Posted - 2014.10.17 07:26:00 -
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Love the term "tryhard" but anyone looks like a "tryhard" when compared to the people you find on here. Your classed as a tryhard when you even pick up the controller lol.
Original Commando, before all you posers just saying
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xavier zor
G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo
79
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Posted - 2014.10.17 08:44:00 -
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I have come to the conclusion that there isn't a such thing as tryhards in computer games, as that refers to one pushing physical barriers...and in this case how many millimetres more we can extend our forethumb
If you know how to handle nyain san then this tryhard tag is not needed, and eventually you will...just don't play when they are around not literally but don't play your normal playstyle. I am a scout and i knife alot. 1 U.P and Molon Labe are full of scouts with viziam's/boundless's....i fly ADS or snipe
scout ck.0 here!
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xavier zor
G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo
79
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Posted - 2014.10.17 08:45:00 -
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jacoby dunewalker wrote:I've ran into more than a few protostomper squads. The best thing I can say is bring you "A" game and make them fight on your terms, not theirs. Is is hard, yes? Is it frustrating, absolutely. Is there a reason to label these players? No... I have ran with a small squad of "ok" players (myself included in this) and stomped the daylights out of the other team. Why? Organization and tactics.
I have been in a public match with a squad that solo'd everything...lol and they wanted to play a PC HAHAHAHA
in your dreams...as the wise moody once said; "teamwork is OP"
scout ck.0 here!
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1954
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Posted - 2014.10.17 09:02:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I never understood this notion of trying too hard, I always thought the problem was an imbalance of the two teams? i.e 6 man proto organised squad vs 'that guy' blueberries?
I don't understand how "trying hard" can ever be a bad thing. Don't you want your enemy to fight back? Don't you want a challenge? What crybaby decided that doing your best was a bad thing?
Don't get me wrong I don't want stomps either. I'm one of the players who vocally promotes the idea of using lower tier suits when we are winning. The goal for both sides should always be active, competitive battles. Either side dominating is boring.
Now with more evil.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1769
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Posted - 2014.10.17 09:54:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San 1 up Lord British Moton Labe etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP. Try hards? that's how you see it. I like facing a good team, as long as both teams are balanced. The battles when I have a full squad of my corp vs one of the corps you've stated are usually fun, although laggy at times. Just a wild guess but I think OP likes smashing MLT frames and backs out of matches where he finds a squad of 3+ of the same corp on the other team.. he clearly does not want a challenge or get any better at the game. there is not a tryhard in this game that can't be beat, shot up, stabed, blown up, sniped. just get good.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Vengeance Unbound
669
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Posted - 2014.10.17 09:56:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:I never understood this notion of trying too hard, I always thought the problem was an imbalance of the two teams? i.e 6 man proto organised squad vs 'that guy' blueberries? I don't understand how "trying hard" can ever be a bad thing. Don't you want your enemy to fight back? Don't you want a challenge? What crybaby decided that doing your best was a bad thing? Don't get me wrong I don't want stomps either. I'm one of the players who vocally promotes the idea of using lower tier suits when we are winning. The goal for both sides should always be active, competitive battles. Either side dominating is boring. I must admit, Facing Molon Labe is where I got most of my interesting battles (besides facing Fa)
You wouldn't shoot a kid with glasses, would you? .l..
PSN: GMANCASH
Rage Proficiency V
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
844
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Posted - 2014.10.17 10:53:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San 1 up Lord British Moton Labe etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP. start a tryhard thread.. Nyan San 1 up Lord British Molon Labe G0DS among men and so on..
GAM? lol Who gets beat up by those bums? |
TheDarthMa94
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
506
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Posted - 2014.10.17 11:03:00 -
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This kind of post will never end from a butt hurt player. Here's a tip : GET GOOD!
Sith & Open Beta Vet.
"People always telling me how lucky I am. But the truth is everything I touch turns to shit"
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Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
85
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Posted - 2014.10.17 11:15:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San 1 up Lord British Moton Labe etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP. start a tryhard thread.. Nyan San 1 up Lord British Molon Labe G0DS among men and so on.. GAM? lol Who gets beat up by those bums?
Ahem.
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
85
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Posted - 2014.10.17 11:19:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Don't do that, OP. Calling someone a "tryhard" is a juvenile way of responding when another player is better than you. Why not get to know some of those "tryhards"? You might make friends, and learn a thing or two.
I've met and played with really cool players in this game from old school corps like TeamPlayers and the Imperfects. It was great going into matches with Sleepy Zan, and chatting and talking about different sniper tactics and methods of approach for Scout Snipers. (This is back in the day when actually being a Scout was hard and imbalanced, whether you ran a shotgun, sniper, AR, or NK.) It was cool doing old school "corp battles" with the Imperfects and learning and developing different kinds of tactics. From coordinated crossfires, to the established zones of control they were used in. Often our tactics would work, and we would win, and ALWAYS the Imperfects would adapt with a tactic of their own, and come back with a win. I absolutely miss playing with those guys.
Even today, you got great people that are great players. Someone earlier put that "tryhard" tag on even duna. duna is a great player, and his corp has some cool people in it as well. His english isn't the best, but that doesn't matter. Just as soon as you shoot him or he shoot you, he would invite you to squad to play a few matches. Him and his crew are simply just incredibly cool people to hang out with.
All this "tryhard" nonsense is just not necessary. Maybe these people aren't "trying hard", they're just playing smart; therefore forcing you to try hard. Maybe they just hung out with each other long enough to understand that a squad isn't comprised of a bunch of random green dots running around without direction. Maybe they understand that out of their squad, 3 of them--with decent enough aim worth the slightest damn-- can set up 3-way crossfire killing perimeter that is effective enough to lock down a whole segment of the map. Which is why you only FEEL like you're getting ganked. Maybe they know how to take a sniper and 2 ground units, and lock nearly an entire enemy team within an objective.
Maybe... I'm wasting my time, and you're still going to convince yourself that the people that actually make this game worth playing, are the ones breaking it.
EDIT: More people came to mind. There are cool people in Nyain as well, that I squaded up with a few times that actually were trying to help new players. Giving them the basics on how to manage their isk, etc. Don't act like corps that enjoy the game are breaking anything. We need more like them. It's a great loss that so many good people, have stopped playing Dust, including folks from my own.
Duna helped me out before in a pub before. He probably doesn't remember me but after the match everyone in our squad got invites to join his corp.
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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jacoby dunewalker
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2
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Posted - 2014.10.17 11:20:00 -
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Here's a useful tip..
Avoid playing on Wednesdays and ThursdThat seems to be when all the really really good players are online.
I usually do pretty well on most other days of the week. But man oh man I get my hind end handed to me on Wednesdays and Thursdays. That doesn't stop me from playing though. |
Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
85
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Posted - 2014.10.17 11:21:00 -
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jacoby dunewalker wrote:Here's a useful tip..
Avoid playing on Wednesdays and ThursdThat seems to be when all the really really good players are online.
I usually do pretty well on most other days of the week. But man oh man I get my hind end handed to me on Wednesdays and Thursdays. That doesn't stop me from playing though.
How about fridays?
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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jacoby dunewalker
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2
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Posted - 2014.10.17 11:35:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:jacoby dunewalker wrote:Here's a useful tip..
Avoid playing on Wednesdays and ThursdThat seems to be when all the really really good players are online.
I usually do pretty well on most other days of the week. But man oh man I get my hind end handed to me on Wednesdays and Thursdays. That doesn't stop me from playing though. How about fridays?
Perhaps I worded this wrong.
There are still plenty of really good players and squads the rest of the week. But I've noticed that most of the proto stompers are on Wednesday and Thursday. Things usually calm down quite a bit by Friday. I'm not saying that you won't run into proto stompers during any other day of the week. Things may change once 1.9 comes out. My guess is tha@t it all just depends on the content released. |
Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
87
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Posted - 2014.10.17 11:40:00 -
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jacoby dunewalker wrote:Mex-0 wrote:jacoby dunewalker wrote:Here's a useful tip..
Avoid playing on Wednesdays and ThursdThat seems to be when all the really really good players are online.
I usually do pretty well on most other days of the week. But man oh man I get my hind end handed to me on Wednesdays and Thursdays. That doesn't stop me from playing though. How about fridays? Perhaps I worded this wrong. There are still plenty of really good players and squads the rest of the week. But I've noticed that most of the proto stompers are on Wednesday and Thursday. Things usually calm down quite a bit by Friday. I'm not saying that you won't run into proto stompers during any other day of the week. Things may change once 1.9 comes out. My guess is tha@t it all just depends on the content released.
I can only play on the weekends and holidays. Friday is my main day.
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
844
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:19:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:Dust User wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San 1 up Lord British Moton Labe etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP. start a tryhard thread.. Nyan San 1 up Lord British Molon Labe G0DS among men and so on.. GAM? lol Who gets beat up by those bums? Ahem.
I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. |
Duke Noobiam
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
200
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:32:00 -
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Black SlaverX wrote:Joel II X wrote:Dumb suggestion is dumb...
... and unrealistic. This is not how coding works. if (tryhardmatch=true) { join tryhardmatch } else { create tryhardmatch }; done.
if (tryhardmatch==true) { join tryhardmatch } else { create tryhardmatch };
Corrected your code...
How do you kill that which has no life?
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1771
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:55:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Mex-0 wrote:Dust User wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San 1 up Lord British Moton Labe etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP. start a tryhard thread.. Nyan San 1 up Lord British Molon Labe G0DS among men and so on.. GAM? lol Who gets beat up by those bums? Ahem. I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. its the battlecry they give from the redline.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5009
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Posted - 2014.10.17 14:34:00 -
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I'd wear such a tag with pride.
Most non-idiots would attribute it to being in a group that tries to win in the game that they are playing. I'm sure the OP got a trophy for getting last place throughout his childhood. The realization that losing is losing has impacted him more than most.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
844
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Posted - 2014.10.17 15:17:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'd wear such a tag with pride.
Most non-idiots would attribute it to being in a group that tries to win in the game that they are playing. I'm sure the OP got a trophy for getting last place throughout his childhood. The realization that losing is losing has impacted him more than most.
Participation trophies have ruined today's youth. |
DDx77
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:55:00 -
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Look everyone has been crushed by some so and so corp and yes it's frustrating especially when they use perceived cheap or OP tactics and fits but people grind in this game to upgrade their skills to get new fits AND TO USE THEM.
So the guy who uses proto CK0 with rr with dmg mods and shields or the guy with burst HMG on a AK0 heavy is trying too hard because he wins? Figure out a way to beat him/her If what you are running doesn't work maybe you need to tank or more dampening or......just work a little harder yourself to figure out what you need to win be that a new fit , strategy or tactics
I think at the end of the day you are asking for better matchmaking but in my experience with playing against some of the corps you mentioned I know I have to get my @ss in a squad and work together and smart or it's going to be a long day. Yes I want the game to more balanced in a lot of ways but I also don't want people lying down for me.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1731
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:25:00 -
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Label me and our corp if you want. I will wear it proudly.
I try, very hard, to win every match. I demand the same from everyone who runs with me in a squad.
What would you have us do, not try? Redline snipe? Intentionally lose? |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1731
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:47:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:I never understood this notion of trying too hard, I always thought the problem was an imbalance of the two teams? i.e 6 man proto organised squad vs 'that guy' blueberries? I don't understand how "trying hard" can ever be a bad thing. Don't you want your enemy to fight back? Don't you want a challenge? What crybaby decided that doing your best was a bad thing? Don't get me wrong I don't want stomps either. I'm one of the players who vocally promotes the idea of using lower tier suits when we are winning. The goal for both sides should always be active, competitive battles. Either side dominating is boring. I must admit, Facing Molon Labe is where I got most of my interesting battles (besides facing Fa)
The respect is mutual & I, too, love the good fights.
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jacoby dunewalker
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2014.10.17 20:50:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Label me and our corp if you want. I will wear it proudly.
I try -- very hard -- to win every match. I demand the same from everyone who runs with me in a squad.
What would you have us do, not try? Redline snipe? Intentionally lose?
If you go up against me, you know one thing for sure, I'm coming for you -- win or lose -- and I'm not going to let up. You might be better than me, you might kill me over and over and over again, but you'll never get me to quit....and if everyone acted like me, the rounds would be much more competitive for all of us.
And if that makes me a "tryhard' or whatever else you want to call it, so be it.
Out of all the corporations that he listed, yours is the only one that I have not faced. I'm sure I would cuss a whole lot, but it would be fun!!! |
Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
94
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Posted - 2014.10.17 22:59:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Dust User wrote:Mex-0 wrote:Dust User wrote:[quote=Apothecary Za'ki]
GAM? lol Who gets beat up by those bums? Ahem. I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. its the battlecry they give from the redline.
i don't redline. No one in our corp redlines. We lolfit 90% of the time.
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1735
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Posted - 2014.10.17 23:37:00 -
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Mex, I don't think that's quite what he had in mind. ;) |
Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1104
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Posted - 2014.10.17 23:38:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:Dust User wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Black SlaverX wrote:So we all know that there are certain groups that just decrease public contract games for everyone:
Nyan San 1 up Lord British Moton Labe etc...
I propose that those CORPs get hit with the tryhard tag.
This tag would have one function; any squad composed of these corps would have to wait for a public contract with another tryhard tagged group opposing them.
Bam, I just made your game way more enjoyable for 99% of your userbase CCP. start a tryhard thread.. Nyan San 1 up Lord British Molon Labe G0DS among men and so on.. GAM? lol Who gets beat up by those bums? Ahem. ^ we aren't tryhards
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
Pls fix SCR CCP
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1735
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Posted - 2014.10.17 23:44:00 -
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jacoby dunewalker wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Label me and our corp if you want. I will wear it proudly.
I try -- very hard -- to win every match. I demand the same from everyone who runs with me in a squad.
What would you have us do, not try? Redline snipe? Intentionally lose?
If you go up against me, you know one thing for sure, I'm coming for you -- win or lose -- and I'm not going to let up. You might be better than me, you might kill me over and over and over again, but you'll never get me to quit....and if everyone acted like me, the rounds would be much more competitive for all of us.
And if that makes me a "tryhard' or whatever else you want to call it, so be it. Out of all the corporations that he listed, yours is the only one that I have not faced. I'm sure I would cuss a whole lot, but it would be fun!!!
Well, I've been going up against and fighting with KEQ guys for quite a while. Good fights. Respect.
And I would be careful from labeling any corporation with a broad brush. Not all of ML share my view on trying. Same for all the supposed "tryhard" corps listed here.
As an aside, and on a related note, I've been running an advanced suit with dual ScP fit since the beginning of the month. I guess I should be running a STD suit with only flux nades and meleeing everyone. lol
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1144
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Posted - 2014.10.18 00:21:00 -
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I've been running my spectacular Quafe Minmatart!
Getting killed because not everyone starts dancing when I jump in the room and start spinning.
They mostly shoot me.
Disco ball mode is tough. |
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