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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5387	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:40:00 - [1] - Quote I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3669	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:43:00 - [2] - Quote The only new thing this game has are a few stats and players. That said, you should give it a go to try out the new team balancing and how your favorite toys got buffed/nerfed appropriately.
hfderrtgvcd 580	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:47:00 - [3] - Quote **** yes. Game is the most balanced I've ever seen it, there's an awesome event starting in a few days, and matchmaking is much better than before. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 2472	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:50:00 - [4] - Quote I don't cap out weekly anymore but I play a little more than directly after Fanfest. It's still great fun in measured doses. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5387	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:51:00 - [5] - Quote Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear: Proto Minmatar Assault Proto Combat Rifle Proto SMG Any of this get screwed with? Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
hfderrtgvcd 581	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:00:00 - [6] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear: Proto Minmatar Assault Proto Combat Rifle Proto SMG Any of this get screwed with? Minmatar assault got a huge buff. Combat rifles and smg's had their damage profie changed though. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1566	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:03:00 - [7] - Quote Balance wise it's seemed to have gotten better and for some people the matches have been more even with this new MU system they're going with, since you haven't played in a while it might be skewed for you for a bit. DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear: Proto Minmatar Assault Proto Combat Rifle Proto SMG Any of this get screwed with? Min's got an HP buff if I recall correctly. CR and SMG got nerfed against shields but buffed against armor. The Assault SMG got a damage nerf but a ROF buff if I recall correctly. Edit: Also I remember you so, hey man. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Atiim 12573	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:36:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear: Proto Minmatar Assault Proto Combat Rifle Proto SMG Any of this get screwed with? Assault SMG got a reduced clip size and an even tighter hipfire, Breach SMGs got a RoF buff, and I don't use normal SMGs so I don't know what happened to those. Combat Rifles and other Projectiles had their profiles swamped from 5/5 to 15/15. It's a bit worse against Shield Tanks, but it drops Armor Tankers like butter. MinAssaults and other Minmatar suits got an eHP increase to balance out their speed advantage. As for Assaults in general, they buffed their HP and slot layouts substantially. (2/2, 3/3, 4/4). The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 102	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:59:00 - [9] - Quote seeiously jgr seriously?
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5387	Posted - 2014.09.28 16:00:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear: Proto Minmatar Assault Proto Combat Rifle Proto SMG Any of this get screwed with? Assault SMG got a reduced clip size and an even tighter hipfire, Breach SMGs got a RoF buff, and I don't use normal SMGs so I don't know what happened to those. Combat Rifles and other Projectiles had their profiles swamped from 5/5 to 15/15. It's a bit worse against Shield Tanks, but it drops Armor Tankers like butter. MinAssaults and other Minmatar suits got an eHP increase to balance out their speed advantage. As for Assaults in general, they buffed their HP and slot layouts substantially. (2/2, 3/3, 4/4). Thank you for the following revelations stranger. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5387	Posted - 2014.09.28 16:01:00 - [11] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: seeiously jgr seriously? Yes, John General Ripper is indeed cereal. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16872	Posted - 2014.09.28 16:08:00 - [12] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 I say give it a spin, I mean its free to play and all so there is little harm giving it 5 games to see where its at. CCP Rattata did lots of work with hotfixes. I mean this here is hotfix delta changes alone https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176078&find=unread Alpha and Bravo and Charlie where in total nearly twice as extensive in things that got changed up. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Tectonic Fusion 2247	Posted - 2014.09.28 16:21:00 - [13] - Quote Also, the Burst (next hotfix of the hotfix) and the TAR atm are beast. EDIT: (Pyrex voice) but the reality is, you can only know if you play Dust for yourself. (GIF)
General Mosquito Kinsho Swords Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.09.28 16:39:00 - [14] - Quote If you disliked tanks, then you should come back, they have essentially been removed from the game. General Butt Naked - Biomassed The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned Only 9 more alts to go.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4464	Posted - 2014.09.28 16:41:00 - [15] - Quote It is more balanced than ever before. And Assaults got a buff, with Delta even adding HP to all Minamatar suits other than scouts. Not to mention team balancing. At the very least give it a try. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 416	Posted - 2014.09.28 16:48:00 - [16] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 It was good up until this past week with hotfix delta. Now it is back to uprising 1.0 sh*t levels. Seems the more things change, the more they stay the same. We're right back to the same complaints. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Tectonic Fusion 2248	Posted - 2014.09.28 17:05:00 - [17] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 It was good up until this past week with hotfix delta. Now it is back to uprising 1.0 sh*t levels. Seems the more things change, the more they stay the same. We're right back to the same complaints. Don't listen to this noob^ 1.0 was complete and utter bollocks compared to this. (GIF)
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1566	Posted - 2014.09.28 17:08:00 - [18] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 It was good up until this past week with hotfix delta. Now it is back to uprising 1.0 sh*t levels. Seems the more things change, the more they stay the same. We're right back to the same complaints. Don't listen to this noob^ 1.0 was complete and utter bollocks compared to this. Ain't that the truth. If this game ever sinks that low again I'll just give up on it completely. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5185	Posted - 2014.09.28 17:09:00 - [19] - Quote You left dust before it's official release because that's why i knew it was doomed. EVE 21 Day Trial
Boot Booter Pure Evil. 930	Posted - 2014.09.28 17:17:00 - [20] - Quote Yes. What happened to the repair tool glow? Why won't CCP answer? Conspiracy?

Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 682	Posted - 2014.09.28 18:08:00 - [21] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear: Proto Minmatar Assault Proto Combat Rifle Proto SMG Any of this get screwed with? Assault SMG got a reduced clip size and an even tighter hipfire, Breach SMGs got a RoF buff, and I don't use normal SMGs so I don't know what happened to those. Combat Rifles and other Projectiles had their profiles swamped from 5/5 to 15/15. It's a bit worse against Shield Tanks, but it drops Armor Tankers like butter. MinAssaults and other Minmatar suits got an eHP increase to balance out their speed advantage. As for Assaults in general, they buffed their HP and slot layouts substantially. (2/2, 3/3, 4/4). Thank you for the following revelations stranger. Atiim got most of it right but except one thing... Projectile profile used to be -5/+10, not -5/+5. Other than that, spot on. And finally, the sidearms all got rebalanced. SMG is no longer king, the Bolt pistol is now. Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 101	Posted - 2014.09.28 19:45:00 - [22] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 Its better now, but we still not have implemented thingies what were showed to us. Balance is good right now, but still not perfect. We will se in future, what we will have. "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 277	Posted - 2014.09.28 19:52:00 - [23] - Quote hop on and check it out yourself
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.28 23:59:00 - [24] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear: Proto Minmatar Assault Proto Combat Rifle Proto SMG Any of this get screwed with? Assault SMG got a reduced clip size and an even tighter hipfire, Breach SMGs got a RoF buff, and I don't use normal SMGs so I don't know what happened to those. Combat Rifles and other Projectiles had their profiles swamped from 5/5 to 15/15. It's a bit worse against Shield Tanks, but it drops Armor Tankers like butter. MinAssaults and other Minmatar suits got an eHP increase to balance out their speed advantage. As for Assaults in general, they buffed their HP and slot layouts substantially. (2/2, 3/3, 4/4). Thank you for the following revelations stranger. Atiim got most of it right but except one thing... Projectile profile used to be -5/+10, not -5/+5. Other than that, spot on. And finally, the sidearms all got rebalanced. SMG is no longer king, the Bolt pistol is now. I see. Slowly puts gun in mouth Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:00:00 - [25] - Quote hold that wrote: hop on and check it out yourself Don't hold that to me. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 1024	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:06:00 - [26] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: hold that wrote: hop on and check it out yourself Don't hold that to me. Do it. Game is hella fun now. The plasma cannon is great since it's projectile speed buff. I'm so helpful.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1258	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:15:00 - [27] - Quote yea and a long break helped me not be so annoyed with certain things.. i've been pretty critical of CCP rattatati but he's actually doing really good and uses statistical data to make his decisions. the only thing i'm bothered with currently is the buffed large turrets instals are still auto tracking vehicles- this was supposed to be removed with the turret EHP buff. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Everything Dies HENTAI FAN CLUB 985	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:25:00 - [28] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: yea and a long break helped me not be so annoyed with certain things.. i've been pretty critical of CCP rattatati but he's actually doing really good and uses statistical data to make his decisions. the only thing i'm bothered with currently is the buffed large turrets instals are still auto tracking vehicles- this was supposed to be removed with the turret EHP buff. In my experience (tanks) it's only the blaster turret that goes crazy; I've had no trouble taking on rail turrets with a blaster tank and I've never had a missile turret fire on me. Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof: Listen
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1259	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:31:00 - [29] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: yea and a long break helped me not be so annoyed with certain things.. i've been pretty critical of CCP rattatati but he's actually doing really good and uses statistical data to make his decisions. the only thing i'm bothered with currently is the buffed large turrets instals are still auto tracking vehicles- this was supposed to be removed with the turret EHP buff. In my experience (tanks) it's only the blaster turret that goes crazy; I've had no trouble taking on rail turrets with a blaster tank and I've never had a missile turret fire on me. yea its the blaster i'm having trouble with. they will all auto track dropship from beyond 100m, i can handle the new swarms but this is bs.. my lav shrugs it off but it still is bs.. i'm not firing on them and they will not forget aggro. on some maps it's just full ret4ard. if i wanted to PVE all match i would buy WoW.. errr... i mean destiny AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8239	Posted - 2014.09.29 00:33:00 - [30] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 Wholeheartedly yes, my ragequitting is currently almost exclusively caused by my own inabilities, rather than the game itself, as it used to "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 226	Posted - 2014.09.29 01:06:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 Wholeheartedly yes, my ragequitting is currently almost exclusively caused by my own inabilities, rather than the game itself, as it used to And your the only one Aztec the game is still trash just smells nicer no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3420	Posted - 2014.09.29 02:02:00 - [32] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: And your the only one Aztec the game is still trash just smells nicer You're* Enjoying any game is partially subjective. Let OP come back and try Dust post-hotfix delta. It's the most balanced, most fun Dust has ever been for me. ...unless OP is an ADS pilot who was curbstomping the world before he quit His experiences will be... different... than when he left. Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: It was good up until this past week with hotfix delta. Now it is back to uprising 1.0 sht levels. Seems the more things change, the more they stay the same. We're right back to the same complaints. Holy *** I have never seen so much nonsense in one post before. Gotdayum. Even the "haters" acknowledge that Dust is 1000% better now than at launch. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 03:51:00 - [33] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Even the "haters" acknowledge that Dust is 1000% better now than at launch. Personally I thought Dust was better at launch than it was in later iterations. I don't know, it just felt RIGHT. The game felt high paced, twitchy, close quarters, dynamic, and long distance fighting felt natural instead of forced. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3420	Posted - 2014.09.29 03:54:00 - [34] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Personally I thought Dust was better at launch than it was in later iterations. I don't know, it just felt RIGHT. The game felt high paced, twitchy, close quarters, dynamic, and long distance fighting felt natural instead of forced. Some folks like very low TTK in their fps games... May I suggest one of the modern military shooters for that gratifying "wh-what just-I was running and now I'm dead... Cool" feeling. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9588	Posted - 2014.09.29 04:39:00 - [35] - Quote Scotty still has occasional hangovers but now the majority of the matches have very-balanced team composition so that you're finally facing players of your own caliber based on performance (Mu) rather than having lopsided matches. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 643	Posted - 2014.09.29 08:41:00 - [36] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Even the "haters" acknowledge that Dust is 1000% better now than at launch. Personally I thought Dust was better at launch than it was in later iterations. I don't know, it just felt RIGHT. The game felt high paced, twitchy, close quarters, dynamic, and long distance fighting felt natural instead of forced. Remember tanks going 60-0 in ambush? Yeah, those were the days Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5390	Posted - 2014.09.29 12:58:00 - [37] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Even the "haters" acknowledge that Dust is 1000% better now than at launch. Personally I thought Dust was better at launch than it was in later iterations. I don't know, it just felt RIGHT. The game felt high paced, twitchy, close quarters, dynamic, and long distance fighting felt natural instead of forced. Remember tanks going 60-0 in ambush? Yeah, those were the days Swarm Launchers killing tanks in 5 seconds. Those were the days. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Atiim 12591	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:02:00 - [38] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Even the "haters" acknowledge that Dust is 1000% better now than at launch. Personally I thought Dust was better at launch than it was in later iterations. I don't know, it just felt RIGHT. The game felt high paced, twitchy, close quarters, dynamic, and long distance fighting felt natural instead of forced. Remember tanks going 60-0 in ambush? Yeah, those were the days Swarm Launchers killing tanks in 5 seconds. Those were the days. 2.5s with maxed skills and you could lock from redline to redline. Heck, Dropships may as well not have had a flight ceiling back then. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3422	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:04:00 - [39] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Swarm Launchers killing tanks in 5 seconds. Those were the days. Hahahaha I unloaded an advanced swarm launcher clip into a HAV last night and barely broke shields. The pilot sped off, circled the map once, then came back with full shields and continued like nothing happened. HAVs are still beastly, it just takes two - three mercs to wreck them instead of five or six like back in 1.0. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:13:00 - [40] - Quote Atiim wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Swarm Launchers killing tanks in 5 seconds. Those were the days. 2.5s with maxed skills and you could lock from redline to redline. Heck, Dropships may as well not have had a flight ceiling back then. Whatever you say stranger. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.

Brahma El Indio KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 173	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:14:00 - [41] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? LOLNO
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 481	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:21:00 - [42] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Swarm Launchers killing tanks in 5 seconds. Those were the days. Hahahaha I unloaded an advanced swarm launcher clip into a HAV last night and barely broke shields. The pilot sped off, circled the map once, then came back with full shields and continued like nothing happened. HAVs are still beastly, it just takes two - three mercs to wreck them instead of five or six like back in 1.0. Meanwhile I 2 shotted a Madruga with a forge gun...
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 231	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:26:00 - [43] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Swarm Launchers killing tanks in 5 seconds. Those were the days. Hahahaha I unloaded an advanced swarm launcher clip into a HAV last night and barely broke shields. The pilot sped off, circled the map once, then came back with full shields and continued like nothing happened. HAVs are still beastly, it just takes two - three mercs to wreck them instead of five or six like back in 1.0. Meanwhile I 2 shotted a Madruga with a forge gun... AFGs and OFGs are for real av heavies Burst HMG is OP use it. I do
John ShepardIII DUST University 724	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:29:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 Wholeheartedly yes, my ragequitting is currently almost exclusively caused by my own inabilities, rather than the game itself, as it used to I like Dust still. Well mainly the PCs which they should add passive Isk back for having districts The True Shepard. Helping noobs everywhere
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3423	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:31:00 - [45] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Meanwhile I 2 shotted a Madruga with a forge gun... Madrugar fitted with standard modules will have 7230 eHP. A Caldari sentienl with three proto heavy damage mods + proto kaala forge gun* does 1866 damage per shot. That means it would take 4 direct hits to drop the HAV... and that's without the armor hardener activated, assuming the HAV stays perfectly still. Take that same HAV and fit proto modules to it and stretch that out to 6 shots. *: by the way, this is in no way a realistic fit. It's hilariously terribad. TL;DR - the numbers say you are full of it. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 232	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:31:00 - [46] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 Wholeheartedly yes, my ragequitting is currently almost exclusively caused by my own inabilities, rather than the game itself, as it used to I like Dust still. Well mainly the PCs which they should add passive Isk back for having districts so yall can go back to permalocking the dists and printing isk, i think not Burst HMG is OP use it. I do
John ShepardIII DUST University 724	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:35:00 - [47] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: John ShepardIII wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 Wholeheartedly yes, my ragequitting is currently almost exclusively caused by my own inabilities, rather than the game itself, as it used to I like Dust still. Well mainly the PCs which they should add passive Isk back for having districts so yall can go back to permalocking the dists and printing isk, i think not At least back then owning districts meant something, and it would get a lot of retired vets back too The True Shepard. Helping noobs everywhere
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 232	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:37:00 - [48] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: John ShepardIII wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 Wholeheartedly yes, my ragequitting is currently almost exclusively caused by my own inabilities, rather than the game itself, as it used to I like Dust still. Well mainly the PCs which they should add passive Isk back for having districts so yall can go back to permalocking the dists and printing isk, i think not At least back then owning districts meant something, and it would get a lot of retired vets back too yeah owning a dist meant you could abuse the system and have infinite free isk Burst HMG is OP use it. I do
John ShepardIII DUST University 724	Posted - 2014.09.29 13:43:00 - [49] - Quote Yeah but people would go HAM attacking each other and if you lost or took a district it meant so much more than it does now. The True Shepard. Helping noobs everywhere
Immortal John Ripper 24890	Posted - 2014.09.29 14:04:00 - [50] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: seeiously jgr seriously? Yes, John General Ripper is indeed cereal. fruit loop status confirmed. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?

General John Ripper 24890	Posted - 2014.09.29 14:04:00 - [51] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: seeiously jgr seriously? Yes, John General Ripper is indeed cereal. fruit loop status confirmed. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 14:06:00 - [52] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: Yeah but people would go HAM attacking each other and if you lost or took a district it meant so much more than it does now. It's like comparing a nickel to 4 pennies. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
John ShepardIII DUST University 724	Posted - 2014.09.29 14:47:00 - [53] - Quote More advantages for bringing back passive Isk. Plus it'll get all the scrubs out if PC The True Shepard. Helping noobs everywhere
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 2299	Posted - 2014.09.29 15:12:00 - [54] - Quote It's worth the download (you can do it overnight). The kill feed is full of a huge variety of weapons now. Matches are much more balanced so they often come down to the last few clones on each side, or the last few bars of armor on the MCC. The game certainly isn't perfect, but it's the best it's ever been. A good fight in DUST is more satisfying than any other FPS out there, between the combat, strategy, tactics, infinite variety of fits, the risk/reward, deaths causing real loss, etc. Plus you should have a decent chunk of SP to spend. Best PvE idea ever!
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 83	Posted - 2014.09.29 15:16:00 - [55] - Quote The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Sorry for my bad english ^^
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4766	Posted - 2014.09.29 15:24:00 - [56] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: Yeah but people would go HAM attacking each other and if you lost or took a district it meant so much more than it does now. If they changed it so the excess clones didn't get automatically sold to where they'd get destroyed then it would at least make someone log on and sell the excess clones or utilize the clones for an attack it would help. I don't believe the passive ISK should generate the type of ISK that it did before though. But you are correct, the lack of a reason to hold more than a few districts takes the drama away from PC. Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
SoTa Senpai Ametat Security Amarr Empire 194	Posted - 2014.09.29 15:39:00 - [57] - Quote This thread made me want to log on again <3 But the reason to play - PC - is gone. I understand CCP needed to find some way to regulate the ISK better in the higher tier players, but cutting supply completely was wrong. Instead, they should of found a way to motivate more people to participate in PC and give them a way to enter PC without breaking there banks trying. It should be obtaining that second district that your wallet should start to see the things to come when war breaks out. They really need to add back passive ISK and add more clone packs. And also make it so corps with no district get a 50% off clone packs.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 15:42:00 - [58] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Orphan Shadow Waiting For Deployment 123	Posted - 2014.09.29 15:59:00 - [59] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. I remember you pretty well, Aztec, from your posting. AV balance is better than ever, sidearms have been refreshed, assaults got a nice rework, and development under Rattati is better than it was at any time prior. I for one would really appreciate reading your take on the AV changes. Reinstall and come blow some stuff up. I think people that struggle the most with DUST are folks who can only do one or two things well (and forum splurging doesn't count). You either need to run with a squad, or be prepared to run multiple counters as needed. If you can't do that, you will DIAF. On a possibly unrelated note, the number of Spanish speaking players is UP, and the number of Americans with 420 in their name is DOWN. Our Tryhardasaurus Rex population has been thinned as well. This means better fights, plain and simple. Hope to see you on the battlefield again sometime, Aztec. We'll save a Wyrkomi with your name on it. ;-)
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2436	Posted - 2014.09.29 16:10:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this? Has this game gotten better since then or not? Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur. Also, OSTRAKON#2014 Wholeheartedly yes, my ragequitting is currently almost exclusively caused by my own inabilities, rather than the game itself, as it used to Until you switch to equipment and get sprint glitched...Get shot and get a movement delay.. Get shot through walls. Try and find a ladder or any use of the amazing high sky boxes in DUST is near pointless... Multi level playability is non existent unless you have a dropship and get on area's with invisible walls and are liek 2 feet floating in the air ontop of the structure rather then walking on it. Until you drive an LAV... and it rolls more then nearly anything ever in the existence of humanity.....hits a tiny bump in the road and flips end for end. Until you use a dropship and goto fly it... and realize you got this BIG ASS dropship in the middle of your view blocking everything. Until you try and run around on the Terrain and get stuck in random spots... Cant vault over rails with invisible walls.. Cant take a small step over an obstacle or even jump over it in a heavy suit. Until you spawn in an endless get spawn camped and killed before screen even fully loads.....all through the day. Until you join a match playing 1-3 months and get put up against full squads of players playing 2 years+ Until you use ther terrible clunky, slow and unresponsive aiming system. Advertises Mouse and Playstation Move... But both of them are ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. Until you try and figure out ANY STORY WHAT SO EVER TO THE GAME. Until you try and make sense WHAT THE HELL IS A "Dust 514" An Angry Joe review would be 1 hour 30 mins of ranting non stop. DUST is an example of LAZZZZZY.... In ever sense of the word... The Core Mechanics are terrible... The Map design is terrible.. The Shooting mechanics are terrible.... DUST has EVE's content and fitting system with EVE's sense of loosing an item each time you die. DUST as in a game itself has done NOTHING but tease the general playerbase with a competitive edge of your seat gun fights in Chromosome then dumb down the basic gameplay to CoD stupid levels while still never explaining the game ever. Even worse is people put their names on this game and CCP staked their reputation on this game and then offered no support to actually build a competent game... Just launch the game out of Beta because they where selling Aurum and items in beta and got sued. And it just went downhill from there. To now where they just have Rattati shifting small numbers around here and there... for soon to be an entire year... Instead of adding or fixing game mechanics that are known industry wide as terrible.

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 16:13:00 - [61] - Quote Orphan Shadow wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. I remember you pretty well, Aztec, from your posting. AV balance is better than ever, sidearms have been refreshed, assaults got a nice rework, and development under Rattati is better than it was at any time prior. I for one would really appreciate reading your take on the AV changes. Reinstall and come blow some stuff up. I think people that struggle the most with DUST are folks who can only do one or two things well (and forum splurging doesn't count). You either need to run with a squad, or be prepared to run multiple counters as needed. If you can't do that, you will DIAF. On a possibly unrelated note, the number of Spanish speaking players is UP, and the number of Americans with 420 in their name is DOWN. Our Tryhardasaurus Rex population has been thinned as well. This means better fights, plain and simple. Hope to see you on the battlefield again sometime, Aztec. We'll save a Wyrkomi with your name on it. ;-) I feel like a I know you... =_= Yes... YOU'RE GENERAL JOHN RIPPER AREN'T YOU! You almost had me there GJR. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Orphan Shadow Waiting For Deployment 126	Posted - 2014.09.29 16:24:00 - [62] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Orphan Shadow wrote: Hope to see you on the battlefield again sometime, Aztec. We'll save a Wyrkomi with your name on it. ;-) I feel like a I know you... We never squaded together, but I contributed to some of your AV threads back in Chromosome on another character. I'm just a random scrub, to be completely honest. We shared a similar passion for AV once upon a time, which is why I posted here. Since those days I've learned how to run tanks and ADS myself; enough to know AV today > yesterday. The quality of posting here is meh with some diamonds in the rough; I recall you to be a quality poster. Regardless of what you choose to do, best regards. o7
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 16:33:00 - [63] - Quote Orphan Shadow wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Orphan Shadow wrote: Hope to see you on the battlefield again sometime, Aztec. We'll save a Wyrkomi with your name on it. ;-) I feel like a I know you... We never squaded together, but I contributed to some of your AV threads back in Chromosome on another character. I'm just a random scrub, to be completely honest. We shared a similar passion for AV once upon a time, which is why I posted here. Since those days I've learned how to run tanks and ADS myself; enough to know AV today > yesterday. The quality of posting here is meh with some diamonds in the rough; I recall you to be a quality poster. Regardless of what you choose to do, best regards. o7 :O Are you VENOM187 the friendly neighborhood racist? Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Immortal John Ripper 24890	Posted - 2014.09.29 16:42:00 - [64] - Quote I would come back if I had a tv. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?
General John Ripper 24892	Posted - 2014.09.29 16:42:00 - [65] - Quote I would come back if I had a tv. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?
Orphan Shadow Waiting For Deployment 126	Posted - 2014.09.29 16:45:00 - [66] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Are you VENOM187 the friendly neighborhood racist? No. Racism is not friendly or funny.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4401	Posted - 2014.09.29 16:57:00 - [67] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Even the "haters" acknowledge that Dust is 1000% better now than at launch. Personally I thought Dust was better at launch than it was in later iterations. I don't know, it just felt RIGHT. The game felt high paced, twitchy, close quarters, dynamic, and long distance fighting felt natural instead of forced. DUST was better in Open Beta than it was at launch, and then it just kept getting worse until the hell that was Patch 1.7 (which seemed to go on for ever). Then 1.8 hit and it became bearable again. (Luckily that happened before the GÇ£Red WeddingGÇ¥ Legion announcement or I might have left too.) If I understand correctly, that is when you left. Since the GÇ£Red WeddingGÇ¥ Legion announcement they pulled CCP Ratatti out of the Finance department and put him in charge of DUST. He happened to be the most hard-core DUST player in the Shanghai office. He actually understood the game and valued the opinions of his fellow players. He also had some mad spreadsheet and data analysis skills! Since the proclaimed death of DUST, CCP Ratatti and his sidekick LogiBro (and Frame working away in the back room) have turned out four hot fixes: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie and now Delta. Each of these hot fixes has done more to improve the balance and fun of the game than any two full content patches from the pre-Retatti era. It is widely agreed that as of Hotfix Charlie, DUST was finally as good as it was in the Open Beta, with many arguing that it had surpassed even the Open Beta build. Delta has brought even more improvements. Of course every time there is a major balance change there are some unexpected consequences, and there were several with Hot Fix Delta. But CCP already followed Hot Fix Delta up with a mini hot fix with minor tweaks within a week of Hot Fix DeltaGÇÖs release. They are also monitoring the situation and will likely make adjustments in Echo, just as they made adjustments to the Burst HMG after it was reworked in Charlie. Assault Dropship Pilots are a bit TGÇÖed off right now. They were not being proactive in suggesting how to properly balance the Assault Dropship, so Rattati nerfed them into the ground, and suddenly the ADS community is experiencing an tremendous up swell in creativity. With all the diligent testing and vigorous feedback coming from the ADS community now I am sure that a reasonable solution to ADS balance will be forthcoming with Hot Fix Echo, if not before. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3285	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:04:00 - [68] - Quote The game is becoming less crappy, but most of the complaints are of the variety we've all become accustomed to that are like rote response: "I just ran full speed at a heavy firing my rifle and he turned and blew me away! It's so unfair! HMG is OP!" (from ten meters away) "I shouldn't have to adjust my fit! I should be able to do everything with my (insert thing here)." "It burns when I pee! HAVs are to blame and need a nerf!" All in all every weapon has a function and seems to do it well. Some of the tweaks are being adjusted but... slowly but surely things are starting to fall into a pattern. Oh and Minmatar and caldari dropsuits got buffed by a change to the projectile damage profile.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4402	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:49:00 - [69] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. DonGÇÖt tell me that you are so optimistic that you think that stuff, or at least equivalent, wonGÇÖt happen in every other multi player PVP game? It is not like the stuff Sequal Rise mentioned doesnGÇÖt have counters in DUST. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 399	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:03:00 - [70] - Quote The short answer being, if you got the time give it a shot. It has gotten quite a bit better. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4403	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:04:00 - [71] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: The game is becoming less crappy, but most of the complaints are of the variety we've all become accustomed to that are like rote response: "I just ran full speed at a heavy firing my rifle and he turned and blew me away! It's so unfair! HMG is OP!" (from ten meters away) "I shouldn't have to adjust my fit! I should be able to do everything with my (insert thing here)." "It burns when I pee! HAVs are to blame and need a nerf!" All in all every weapon has a function and seems to do it well. Some of the tweaks are being adjusted but... slowly but surely things are starting to fall into a pattern. Oh and Minmatar and caldari dropsuits got buffed by a change to the projectile damage profile. Vary much this! People will complain about anything that kills them. When you ask them what the counter to the weapon that killed them is, half the time they donGÇÖt know. I would not be able to bare to play a game that was dumbed down and homogenized to the point of satisfying those people. Come to think of it, that is why I stopped playing WOWGÇª Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 19:14:00 - [72] - Quote Orphan Shadow wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Are you VENOM187 the friendly neighborhood racist? No. Racism is not friendly or funny. Darn. I've been chasing him down for two and a half years -¦--¦ Oh well :D Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 19:26:00 - [73] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. DonGÇÖt tell me that you are so optimistic that you think that stuff, or at least equivalent, wonGÇÖt happen in every other multi player PVP game? It is not like the stuff Sequal Rise mentioned doesnGÇÖt have counters in DUST. Well, I liked when Dust Launched because I felt everything was more team oriented, and more in line with actual skill with aiming rather than letting your armor and weapon stats do the talk. My biggest annoyance with this game is that while it reduced the twitch shooting aspect almost entirely: it did not make the game more strategic. Instead the tactic everyone relies on is the ability to overwhelm people through putting the most vehicles and players on a single point. And when fights are determined by who's got more numbers almost every time, the game isn't that fun. In COD I can set myself up in appropriate positions to be able to tactically pick off a squad of people by using my environment and specific weapons in tandem. In Dust it's more about numbers rather than actual knowledge or forethought. That's a big negative for a "tactical" shooter. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 84	Posted - 2014.09.29 19:29:00 - [74] - Quote Indeed, you always play against the same players whatever server you pick, which makes the game really boring. There is a fake diversity of suit : 50% are heavies, 30% are scouts (or fake assault using it because their buggy hitbox makes them OP) and the 20 poor % left is composed by players that are either MLT noobs, or players who thought that using an assault suit would be the best way to actually be an assault! Ho, and sometimes you can find some useful logis. Sorry for my bad english ^^
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4483	Posted - 2014.09.29 19:48:00 - [75] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Orphan Shadow wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Are you VENOM187 the friendly neighborhood racist? No. Racism is not friendly or funny. Darn. I've been chasing him down for two and a half years -¦--¦ Oh well :D It has been so long since I have seen this alt, I forgot whose it was... Until someone pointed it out. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 2305	Posted - 2014.09.29 23:06:00 - [76] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. DonGÇÖt tell me that you are so optimistic that you think that stuff, or at least equivalent, wonGÇÖt happen in every other multi player PVP game? It is not like the stuff Sequal Rise mentioned doesnGÇÖt have counters in DUST. Well, I liked when Dust Launched because I felt everything was more team oriented, and more in line with actual skill with aiming rather than letting your armor and weapon stats do the talk. My biggest annoyance with this game is that while it reduced the twitch shooting aspect almost entirely: it did not make the game more strategic. Instead the tactic everyone relies on is the ability to overwhelm people through putting the most vehicles and players on a single point. And when fights are determined by who's got more numbers almost every time, the game isn't that fun. In COD I can set myself up in appropriate positions to be able to tactically pick off a squad of people by using my environment and specific weapons in tandem. In Dust it's more about numbers rather than actual knowledge or forethought. That's a big negative for a "tactical" shooter. It sounds like CoD is a better fit for your playstyle. I personally love the fact that we have a game where fits matter, where who wins a 1v1 is based on SP, fits, weapons, environment, ewar, and gun game. It makes fights infinitely more interesting than everyone being almost the same. I'm sure there are excellent games out there where gun game is the only factor in who wins. I don't think of that as being a tactical shooter, and I'm very glad DUST is different. I hope it never devolves into that. Best PvE idea ever!
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1634	Posted - 2014.09.29 23:53:00 - [77] - Quote depends what you play.... if its logibro then don't bother. they have only gotten worse with every patch either direct or indirect. im still holding out hope that one day i will be able to return to dust myself All Hail Legion
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 84	Posted - 2014.09.30 00:10:00 - [78] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. DonGÇÖt tell me that you are so optimistic that you think that stuff, or at least equivalent, wonGÇÖt happen in every other multi player PVP game? It is not like the stuff Sequal Rise mentioned doesnGÇÖt have counters in DUST. Well, I liked when Dust Launched because I felt everything was more team oriented, and more in line with actual skill with aiming rather than letting your armor and weapon stats do the talk. My biggest annoyance with this game is that while it reduced the twitch shooting aspect almost entirely: it did not make the game more strategic. Instead the tactic everyone relies on is the ability to overwhelm people through putting the most vehicles and players on a single point. And when fights are determined by who's got more numbers almost every time, the game isn't that fun. In COD I can set myself up in appropriate positions to be able to tactically pick off a squad of people by using my environment and specific weapons in tandem. In Dust it's more about numbers rather than actual knowledge or forethought. That's a big negative for a "tactical" shooter. You point out what comes to be the very problem of Dust: Player skills are no longer needed to win a battle! That's what makes this game boring now! Everybody speaks through their SP and their suits, but not with their actual ability to aim right and shoot. It used to be both skills needed (game ones and player ones), now anything can OS someone even if he is a far better player than the other one! Simply because a machine gun doesnt require any skill to destroy any one that comes in front of you (spray and pray thing), because the weapons that can one or two shots anybody can be held by the most sneaky characters of the game giving you no chance to runaway. And there goes a long list of stuffs that are breaking this game. Dust turned broken when they changed the aim assist, and then when they buffed scout. But Ccp will never do anything about that. Sorry for my bad english ^^
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3344	Posted - 2014.09.30 01:55:00 - [79] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. DonGÇÖt tell me that you are so optimistic that you think that stuff, or at least equivalent, wonGÇÖt happen in every other multi player PVP game? It is not like the stuff Sequal Rise mentioned doesnGÇÖt have counters in DUST. Well, I liked when Dust Launched because I felt everything was more team oriented, and more in line with actual skill with aiming rather than letting your armor and weapon stats do the talk. My biggest annoyance with this game is that while it reduced the twitch shooting aspect almost entirely: it did not make the game more strategic. Instead the tactic everyone relies on is the ability to overwhelm people through putting the most vehicles and players on a single point. And when fights are determined by who's got more numbers almost every time, the game isn't that fun. In COD I can set myself up in appropriate positions to be able to tactically pick off a squad of people by using my environment and specific weapons in tandem. In Dust it's more about numbers rather than actual knowledge or forethought. That's a big negative for a "tactical" shooter. Ever heard of the cat walks or the RR Tanker/Logi/Assault
low genius The Sound Of Freedom 2000	Posted - 2014.09.30 04:02:00 - [80] - Quote not worth your time. ccp is a sinking ship. tranquility is down to 2008 playercounts. rip ccp. rip ccp. it was a good run. www.forum.eternalcrusade.com

Duke Noobiam S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 173	Posted - 2014.09.30 04:24:00 - [81] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear: Proto Minmatar Assault Proto Combat Rifle Proto SMG Any of this get screwed with? All of these are in a very good place now. Min Assault has a great slot layout and bonus (extra clip size for projectile weapons) Combat ruffle is still very good, especially when using a complex damage mod. SMG is still viable although other sidearms have recently gotten better than it How do you kill that which has no life?
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 136	Posted - 2014.09.30 04:32:00 - [82] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Even the "haters" acknowledge that Dust is 1000% better now than at launch. Personally I thought Dust was better at launch than it was in later iterations. I don't know, it just felt RIGHT. The game felt high paced, twitchy, close quarters, dynamic, and long distance fighting felt natural instead of forced. DUST was better in Open Beta than it was at launch, and then it just kept getting worse until the hell that was Patch 1.7 (which seemed to go on for ever). Then 1.8 hit and it became bearable again. (Luckily that happened before the GÇ£Red WeddingGÇ¥ Legion announcement or I might have left too.) If I understand correctly, that is when you left. Since the GÇ£Red WeddingGÇ¥ Legion announcement they pulled CCP Ratatti out of the Finance department and put him in charge of DUST. He happened to be the most hard-core DUST player in the Shanghai office. He actually understood the game and valued the opinions of his fellow players. He also had some mad spreadsheet and data analysis skills! Since the proclaimed death of DUST, CCP Ratatti and his sidekick LogiBro (and Frame working away in the back room) have turned out four hot fixes: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie and now Delta. Each of these hot fixes has done more to improve the balance and fun of the game than any two full content patches from the pre-Retatti era. It is widely agreed that as of Hotfix Charlie, DUST was finally as good as it was in the Open Beta, with many arguing that it had surpassed even the Open Beta build. Delta has brought even more improvements. Of course every time there is a major balance change there are some unexpected consequences, and there were several with Hot Fix Delta. But CCP already followed Hot Fix Delta up with a mini hot fix with minor tweaks within a week of Hot Fix DeltaGÇÖs release. They are also monitoring the situation and will likely make adjustments in Echo, just as they made adjustments to the Burst HMG after it was reworked in Charlie. Assault Dropship Pilots are a bit TGÇÖed off right now. They were not being proactive in suggesting how to properly balance the Assault Dropship, so Rattati nerfed them into the ground, and suddenly the ADS community is experiencing an tremendous up swell in creativity. With all the diligent testing and vigorous feedback coming from the ADS community now I am sure that a reasonable solution to ADS balance will be forthcoming with Hot Fix Echo, if not before. If Ratatti was from the finance department then it clearly shows the state the game was and is - the direction of this game was total fubar from the get-go . Imo OP and others who are looking to come back, it really depends on the reason you want to come back . If you are looking to experience any brand new features then you will not get that anytime soon or never. A lot of the stuff is about the same besides the weapon, vehicle, and dropsuit balance really those are really only things that changed from launch . The changes arguably helped balance the game more, but they are still some broken things that is going to take a longer time to fix and last more than a hotfix.
Thurak1 Psygod9 1014	Posted - 2014.09.30 04:41:00 - [83] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Swarm Launchers killing tanks in 5 seconds. Those were the days. Hahahaha I unloaded an advanced swarm launcher clip into a HAV last night and barely broke shields. The pilot sped off, circled the map once, then came back with full shields and continued like nothing happened. HAVs are still beastly, it just takes two - three mercs to wreck them instead of five or six like back in 1.0. Works best if you can get a forge gunner to help out. The FG deals good damage to shields.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5391	Posted - 2014.09.30 23:55:00 - [84] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: It sounds like CoD is a better fit for your playstyle. I personally love the fact that we have a game where fits matter, where who wins a 1v1 is based on SP, fits, weapons, environment, ewar, and gun game. It makes fights infinitely more interesting than everyone being almost the same. I'm sure there are excellent games out there where gun game is the only factor in who wins. I don't think of that as being a tactical shooter, and I'm very glad DUST is different. I hope it never devolves into that. Unfortunately gun game is a very low factor. I'd argue that environment matters more than gun game in most cases. I don't think your actual size of SP should automatically contribute to your ability to do well. It matters more what you do with it than anything else. Also electronic warfare has almost zero value in an actual duel. If you two are already fighting then dampeners and scanners won't make a difference. In an ideal world. Gun game would have 35% to do with how well you do, fit 25%, environment 10% and tactics 30%. Dust was very similar to COD in terms of gun skill on launch. Oddly enough people complained that individual skill was more important than gear stats. Cue the introduction of aim assist and gradual buffing of proto gear and nerfing of lower tier gear. So now: Gear Stats>Gun Skill. This is even more exaggerated because of course the greatest tactic in game is simply overwhelming the other team with constant waves of attacks and constant vehicle pressure. It's a numbers game, Who has the best gear? They'll win in a 1v.1. Who has the most players/vehicles during a firefight? They'll win in a squad v. squad. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 9391	Posted - 2014.10.01 00:02:00 - [85] - Quote Pls come back, we miss you :(( i like waffles
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5391	Posted - 2014.10.01 01:39:00 - [86] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Pls come back, we miss you :(( I assure you stranger that your concers have been taking into account. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Immortal John Ripper 24898	Posted - 2014.10.01 04:16:00 - [87] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Pls come back, we miss you :(( I assure you stranger that your concers have been taking into account. Pros: It was kinda fun logging into my main DeadlyAztec11 for a change. I miss my fact of the day thread. people don't constantly pester me with fanmail or make me hungry by bringing up tacos. Just how did I become the mascot for tacos?? Cons: It is such a pain to have to login to so many alt's. I try to keep my daily alt login count to a minimum of 10. It used to be more but the forums were starting to consume my life. So if I bring aztec back... I'd have to drop someone.. Maybe I can replace this one with aztec... Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?
General John Ripper 24898	Posted - 2014.10.01 04:16:00 - [88] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Pls come back, we miss you :(( I assure you stranger that your concers have been taking into account. Pros: It was kinda fun logging into my main DeadlyAztec11 for a change. I miss my fact of the day thread. people don't constantly pester me with fanmail or make me hungry by bringing up tacos. Just how did I become the mascot for tacos?? Cons: It is such a pain to have to login to so many alt's. I try to keep my daily alt login count to a minimum of 10. It used to be more but the forums were starting to consume my life. So if I bring aztec back... I'd have to drop someone.. Maybe I can replace this one with aztec... Patrick misses me. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?
SoTa Senpai Ametat Security Amarr Empire 227	Posted - 2014.10.01 04:25:00 - [89] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Pls come back, we miss you :(( I assure you stranger that your concers have been taking into account. Pros: It was kinda fun logging into my main DeadlyAztec11 for a change. I miss my fact of the day thread. people don't constantly pester me with fanmail or make me hungry by bringing up tacos. Just how did I become the mascot for tacos?? Cons: It is such a pain to have to login to so many alt's. I try to keep my daily alt login count to a minimum of 10. It used to be more but the forums were starting to consume my life. So if I bring aztec back... I'd have to drop someone.. Maybe I can replace this one with aztec... Patrick misses me. ... You talk about tacos for literally every post for months. It's like me asking why people relate me and anime together. o.0
General John Ripper 24898	Posted - 2014.10.01 04:48:00 - [90] - Quote SoTa Senpai wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Pls come back, we miss you :(( I assure you stranger that your concers have been taking into account. Pros: It was kinda fun logging into my main DeadlyAztec11 for a change. I miss my fact of the day thread. people don't constantly pester me with fanmail or make me hungry by bringing up tacos. Just how did I become the mascot for tacos?? Cons: It is such a pain to have to login to so many alt's. I try to keep my daily alt login count to a minimum of 10. It used to be more but the forums were starting to consume my life. So if I bring aztec back... I'd have to drop someone.. Maybe I can replace this one with aztec... Patrick misses me. ... You talk about tacos for literally every post for months. It's like me asking why people relate me and anime together. o.0 I really need to stop posting when I am hungry. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?

Immortal John Ripper 24900	Posted - 2014.10.01 04:48:00 - [91] - Quote SoTa Senpai wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Pls come back, we miss you :(( I assure you stranger that your concers have been taking into account. Pros: It was kinda fun logging into my main DeadlyAztec11 for a change. I miss my fact of the day thread. people don't constantly pester me with fanmail or make me hungry by bringing up tacos. Just how did I become the mascot for tacos?? Cons: It is such a pain to have to login to so many alt's. I try to keep my daily alt login count to a minimum of 10. It used to be more but the forums were starting to consume my life. So if I bring aztec back... I'd have to drop someone.. Maybe I can replace this one with aztec... Patrick misses me. ... You talk about tacos for literally every post for months. It's like me asking why people relate me and anime together. o.0 I really need to stop posting when I am hungry. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1230	Posted - 2014.10.01 13:21:00 - [92] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Until you switch to equipment and get sprint glitched...Get shot and get a movement delay.. Get shot through walls. Try and find a ladder or any use of the amazing high sky boxes in DUST is near pointless... Multi level playability is non existent unless you have a dropship and get on area's with invisible walls and are liek 2 feet floating in the air ontop of the structure rather then walking on it. Until you drive an LAV... and it rolls more then nearly anything ever in the existence of humanity.....hits a tiny bump in the road and flips end for end. Until you use a dropship and goto fly it... and realize you got this BIG ASS dropship in the middle of your view blocking everything. Until you try and run around on the Terrain and get stuck in random spots... Cant vault over rails with invisible walls.. Cant take a small step over an obstacle or even jump over it in a heavy suit. Until you spawn in an endless get spawn camped and killed before screen even fully loads.....all through the day. Until you join a match playing 1-3 months and get put up against full squads of players playing 2 years+ Until you use ther terrible clunky, slow and unresponsive aiming system. Advertises Mouse and Playstation Move... But both of them are ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. Until you try and figure out ANY STORY WHAT SO EVER TO THE GAME. Until you try and make sense WHAT THE HELL IS A "Dust 514" An Angry Joe review would be 1 hour 30 mins of ranting non stop. DUST is an example of LAZZZZZY.... In ever sense of the word... The Core Mechanics are terrible... The Map design is terrible.. The Shooting mechanics are terrible.... DUST has EVE's content and fitting system with EVE's sense of loosing an item each time you die. DUST as in a game itself has done NOTHING but tease the general playerbase with a competitive edge of your seat gun fights in Chromosome then dumb down the basic gameplay to CoD stupid levels while still never explaining the game ever. Even worse is people put their names on this game and CCP staked their reputation on this game and then offered no support to actually build a competent game... Just launch the game out of Beta because they where selling Aurum and items in beta and got sued. And it just went downhill from there. To now where they just have Rattati shifting small numbers around here and there... for soon to be an entire year... Instead of adding or fixing game mechanics that are known industry wide as terrible. Angry Joe wouldn't even rate Dust , I mean why ??? Don't give me that crap about what platform it's on because he rates games that are well talked about and known ... people know about Dust like I'm sure that he does but someone has told him don't even waste the time or he sensed it himself threw research . Your right though , it would be a rant but not an hour and so because he doesn't and wouldn't waste the time talking about issues that are already known . He reads blogs and comments also so I'm sure he's well aware . CCP doesn't care about fun as much as these fanboi's and girls who prop up exploits or dismiss the fact that this game needs a skill point refund to increase playability and players interest . I will tell you straight up Tec , it's the same $h!t with minor changes that should have been but like Bethhy said , which is most of the time on point ... there are issues that are just getting no attention but are critical to the overall game experience but most of these people are already under a trance so those issues will go undone prob into legion . These people care more about adding or fixing weapons then the make up of the game and the experience . You just don't see people talking about the glitches and such that make this game unplayable at times . You come back and you will leave again . Or maybe you won't if your a glutton for punishment and mismanagement by the company and community . " But it's getting better " . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Skippy Longstocking Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 69	Posted - 2014.10.01 13:50:00 - [93] - Quote Cold Poop Syndrome: When your poop is still warm, you know it's poop, therefore you wouldn't even go near it. But, on the other hand, if the poop gets cold and hard, many people might mistake it for chocolate. Then, they'll try a bit and remember that it's been poop all along. Dust 514 is poop, not chocolate.
Kaughst Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 617	Posted - 2014.10.01 14:52:00 - [94] - Quote Don't call it a comeback I have been here for years rocking my peers and putting suckers in fear. You know you have at least thought about cow tipping. They know, and they're out to settle the score.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5395	Posted - 2014.10.02 21:37:00 - [95] - Quote Skippy Longstocking wrote: Cold Poop Syndrome: When your poop is still warm, you know it's poop, therefore you wouldn't even go near it. But, on the other hand, if the poop gets cold and hard, many people might mistake it for chocolate. Then, they'll try a bit and remember that it's been poop all along. Dust 514 is poop, not chocolate. Ghost dump: when you sit on the toilet and feel like you've taken a dump but when you look there's nothing there. It's a little sorta like those Promises CCP said they were working on but when we looked there was nothing there. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5395	Posted - 2014.10.02 21:39:00 - [96] - Quote Kaughst wrote: Don't call it a comeback I have been here for years rocking my peers and putting suckers in fear. Oh my... Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.


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