|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5387
|
Posted - 2014.09.28 14:40:00 -
[1] - Quote
I Left Dust about a week before we learned it was doomed to development limbo. So the question is: does it behoove me to come back to this?
Has this game gotten better since then or not?
Normally I would simply hop on and check it out myself, but unfortunately the updates take forever to occur.
Also, OSTRAKON#2014
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5387
|
Posted - 2014.09.28 14:51:00 -
[2] - Quote
Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear:
Proto Minmatar Assault
Proto Combat Rifle
Proto SMG
Any of this get screwed with?
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5387
|
Posted - 2014.09.28 16:00:00 -
[3] - Quote
Atiim wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear:
Proto Minmatar Assault
Proto Combat Rifle
Proto SMG
Any of this get screwed with? Assault SMG got a reduced clip size and an even tighter hipfire, Breach SMGs got a RoF buff, and I don't use normal SMGs so I don't know what happened to those. Combat Rifles and other Projectiles had their profiles swamped from 5/5 to 15/15. It's a bit worse against Shield Tanks, but it drops Armor Tankers like butter. MinAssaults and other Minmatar suits got an eHP increase to balance out their speed advantage. As for Assaults in general, they buffed their HP and slot layouts substantially. (2/2, 3/3, 4/4). Thank you for the following revelations stranger.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5387
|
Posted - 2014.09.28 16:01:00 -
[4] - Quote
CharacterNameWasTaken wrote:seeiously jgr seriously? Yes, John General Ripper is indeed cereal.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.28 23:59:00 -
[5] - Quote
Kaze Eyrou wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Atiim wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Well I have all my SP and ISK in Minmatar gear:
Proto Minmatar Assault
Proto Combat Rifle
Proto SMG
Any of this get screwed with? Assault SMG got a reduced clip size and an even tighter hipfire, Breach SMGs got a RoF buff, and I don't use normal SMGs so I don't know what happened to those. Combat Rifles and other Projectiles had their profiles swamped from 5/5 to 15/15. It's a bit worse against Shield Tanks, but it drops Armor Tankers like butter. MinAssaults and other Minmatar suits got an eHP increase to balance out their speed advantage. As for Assaults in general, they buffed their HP and slot layouts substantially. (2/2, 3/3, 4/4). Thank you for the following revelations stranger. Atiim got most of it right but except one thing... Projectile profile used to be -5/+10, not -5/+5. Other than that, spot on. And finally, the sidearms all got rebalanced. SMG is no longer king, the Bolt pistol is now.
I see.
*Slowly puts gun in mouth*
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 00:00:00 -
[6] - Quote
hold that wrote:hop on and check it out yourself Don't hold that to me.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 03:51:00 -
[7] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote: Even the "haters" acknowledge that Dust is 1000% better now than at launch.
Personally I thought Dust was better at launch than it was in later iterations. I don't know, it just felt RIGHT. The game felt high paced, twitchy, close quarters, dynamic, and long distance fighting felt natural instead of forced.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5390
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 12:58:00 -
[8] - Quote
Pseudogenesis wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote: Even the "haters" acknowledge that Dust is 1000% better now than at launch.
Personally I thought Dust was better at launch than it was in later iterations. I don't know, it just felt RIGHT. The game felt high paced, twitchy, close quarters, dynamic, and long distance fighting felt natural instead of forced. Remember tanks going 60-0 in ambush? Yeah, those were the days Swarm Launchers killing tanks in 5 seconds. Those were the days.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 13:13:00 -
[9] - Quote
Atiim wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Swarm Launchers killing tanks in 5 seconds. Those were the days.
2.5s with maxed skills and you could lock from redline to redline. Heck, Dropships may as well not have had a flight ceiling back then. Whatever you say stranger.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 14:06:00 -
[10] - Quote
John ShepardIII wrote: Yeah but people would go HAM attacking each other and if you lost or took a district it meant so much more than it does now.
It's like comparing a nickel to 4 pennies.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 15:42:00 -
[11] - Quote
Sequal Rise wrote:The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough.
BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 16:13:00 -
[12] - Quote
Orphan Shadow wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sequal Rise wrote:The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. I remember you pretty well, Aztec, from your posting. AV balance is better than ever, sidearms have been refreshed, assaults got a nice rework, and development under Rattati is better than it was at any time prior. I for one would really appreciate reading your take on the AV changes. Reinstall and come blow some stuff up. I think people that struggle the most with DUST are folks who can only do one or two things well (and forum splurging doesn't count). You either need to run with a squad, or be prepared to run multiple counters as needed. If you can't do that, you will DIAF. On a possibly unrelated note, the number of Spanish speaking players is UP, and the number of Americans with 420 in their name is DOWN. Our Tryhardasaurus Rex population has been thinned as well. This means better fights, plain and simple. Hope to see you on the battlefield again sometime, Aztec. We'll save a Wyrkomi with your name on it. ;-) I feel like a I know you...
=_= Yes...
YOU'RE GENERAL JOHN RIPPER AREN'T YOU!
You almost had me there GJR.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 16:33:00 -
[13] - Quote
Orphan Shadow wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Orphan Shadow wrote:Hope to see you on the battlefield again sometime, Aztec. We'll save a Wyrkomi with your name on it. ;-) I feel like a I know you... We never squaded together, but I contributed to some of your AV threads back in Chromosome on another character. I'm just a random scrub, to be completely honest. We shared a similar passion for AV once upon a time, which is why I posted here. Since those days I've learned how to run tanks and ADS myself; enough to know AV today > yesterday. The quality of posting here is meh with some diamonds in the rough; I recall you to be a quality poster. Regardless of what you choose to do, best regards. o7
:O
Are you VENOM187 the friendly neighborhood racist?
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 19:14:00 -
[14] - Quote
Orphan Shadow wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Are you VENOM187 the friendly neighborhood racist? No. Racism is not friendly or funny. Darn. I've been chasing him down for two and a half years
-¦--¦
Oh well :D
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5389
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 19:26:00 -
[15] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sequal Rise wrote:The game asn't change at all, still the same ***** playing tanked cloaked scout with shotguns and re's, camping on a roof with RR and rushing you with vehicles. It doesn't worth any come back. Fair enough. BO2 and Fifa should keep me entertained. Advanced Warfare is just around the corner anyways. DonGÇÖt tell me that you are so optimistic that you think that stuff, or at least equivalent, wonGÇÖt happen in every other multi player PVP game? It is not like the stuff Sequal Rise mentioned doesnGÇÖt have counters in DUST.
Well, I liked when Dust Launched because I felt everything was more team oriented, and more in line with actual skill with aiming rather than letting your armor and weapon stats do the talk.
My biggest annoyance with this game is that while it reduced the twitch shooting aspect almost entirely: it did not make the game more strategic. Instead the tactic everyone relies on is the ability to overwhelm people through putting the most vehicles and players on a single point.
And when fights are determined by who's got more numbers almost every time, the game isn't that fun.
In COD I can set myself up in appropriate positions to be able to tactically pick off a squad of people by using my environment and specific weapons in tandem. In Dust it's more about numbers rather than actual knowledge or forethought. That's a big negative for a "tactical" shooter.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5391
|
Posted - 2014.09.30 23:55:00 -
[16] - Quote
Vell0cet wrote: It sounds like CoD is a better fit for your playstyle. I personally love the fact that we have a game where fits matter, where who wins a 1v1 is based on SP, fits, weapons, environment, ewar, and gun game. It makes fights infinitely more interesting than everyone being almost the same. I'm sure there are excellent games out there where gun game is the only factor in who wins. I don't think of that as being a tactical shooter, and I'm very glad DUST is different. I hope it never devolves into that.
Unfortunately gun game is a very low factor. I'd argue that environment matters more than gun game in most cases. I don't think your actual size of SP should automatically contribute to your ability to do well. It matters more what you do with it than anything else. Also electronic warfare has almost zero value in an actual duel. If you two are already fighting then dampeners and scanners won't make a difference.
In an ideal world. Gun game would have 35% to do with how well you do, fit 25%, environment 10% and tactics 30%.
Dust was very similar to COD in terms of gun skill on launch. Oddly enough people complained that individual skill was more important than gear stats. Cue the introduction of aim assist and gradual buffing of proto gear and nerfing of lower tier gear. So now: Gear Stats>Gun Skill.
This is even more exaggerated because of course the greatest tactic in game is simply overwhelming the other team with constant waves of attacks and constant vehicle pressure.
It's a numbers game,
Who has the best gear? They'll win in a 1v.1.
Who has the most players/vehicles during a firefight? They'll win in a squad v. squad.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5391
|
Posted - 2014.10.01 01:39:00 -
[17] - Quote
Patrick57 wrote:Pls come back, we miss you :(( I assure you stranger that your concers have been taking into account.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5395
|
Posted - 2014.10.02 21:37:00 -
[18] - Quote
Skippy Longstocking wrote:Cold Poop Syndrome:When your poop is still warm, you know it's poop, therefore you wouldn't even go near it. But, on the other hand, if the poop gets cold and hard, many people might mistake it for chocolate. Then, they'll try a bit and remember that it's been poop all along. Dust 514 is poop, not chocolate. Ghost dump: when you sit on the toilet and feel like you've taken a dump but when you look there's nothing there.
It's a little sorta like those Promises CCP said they were working on but when we looked there was nothing there.
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5395
|
Posted - 2014.10.02 21:39:00 -
[19] - Quote
Kaughst wrote:Don't call it a comeback I have been here for years rocking my peers and putting suckers in fear. Oh my...
Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
|
|
|
|