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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:33:00 -
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SO i just got home for the week from work and thought i would quickly check out Hotfix Delta and see what the buzz was.
Loaded in and went straight into a game, heard some noise about dropship changes so thought i would stat here. Dropship comes in and i start flying away. my first thought was "did i call in a gorgon?" i had to check and fire a round to check it was an ADS.
Okay so it handles now like a chopper carrying a skip loaded with used washing machines. Okay well fair enough lets go see what it can do.
Hovering over the point i see two dudes jump out of an LAV and immediately look up at me with the same look a tiger gives that little gazelle before someone turns into a buffet luncheon. Nevermind i think, i can take two dudes on.......
4 swarms later im lying on the floor surrounded by smoking wreckage with my front teeth in my hands and my balls slightly aching..... "wow swarms hit hard now"
So even tho i was in a pretty tanked Incubus and even tho i kicked the afterburner expecting to yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose, it all went wrong.
So i have to ask, why CCP would you severely limit the functionality of one of the most unique and interesting aspects of a very mediocre game? Dropships gave this game a certain 'flair' and frankly are still incredibly overpriced for there now apparent capabilities.
I recall someone telling me 'this is due to the numbers saying they are OP' well if the numbers are correct, then your game is also a massive failure and you should just shut down the servers now.....going by the numbers....if they are that important to you.
Is anyone alive at the wheel of this game anymore? feels like its pretty much just the 'number boyz' now pushing their own agendas. This continues to show an every increasing slide into balancing being all that matters.
Oh well - back to Destiny. |
Joel II X
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3624
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:39:00 -
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ADS with After Burners aren't invincible anymore. Working as intended.
Have fun in Destiny. |
Zombie Knife
Sinister Souls
18
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:42:00 -
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Shut up, pyrex. You are too late, too irrelevant, too old, and probably also too drunk. |
CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
870
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:44:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:ADS with After Burners aren't invincible anymore. Working as intended.
Have fun in Destiny.
Well interesting point, they actually never were invincible you know.... if you had the ability to..... like be good.... and work as a team, no dropship in the game was safe....
Still nice to see you are the voice of this game now. Hows the match making going? enjoying playing with even less people day on day?
I see they fixed the farming of starter isk as well so expect to see perhaps 900 people less on at peak times....
GG HF GG HF M8 |
hfderrtgvcd
555
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:47:00 -
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I'm actually pretty satisfied with the changes. Sure, ADS's got hit pretty hard but standard dropships got a pretty significant buff. This encourages dropships to be used as transport and support instead of flying death machines (although they still can be if you have gunners).
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
323
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:55:00 -
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Can you make a vid of you sending me all your isk?
I'm pretty happy with the ADS changes, although to be fair, i say the hell away from all vehicles. They are just not my bag. I have spent a considrable amount of time running/hiding from tanks & dropships since AV has historically been horrible. Now a casual lonewolf may (or may not, depending on the player) solo an ADS, or at the very least collect a few +75's.
Personally, I really enjoy the contibutions you & Squad B have made to this game. Coming to the forums & presenting your opinions in this fasion...i don't know, it's like watchng your mentor phone in their work. I believe your message of let go of the comfortable & try something new & fun since there is so much to try, but it doesn't sound like you are buying your own advertising.
If your destiny awaits you, then enjoy...after pass the isk. (who knows, i may invest it all in DS's)
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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Orphan Shadow
Waiting For Deployment
90
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:57:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:So i have to ask, why CCP would you severely limit the functionality of one of the most unique and interesting aspects of a very mediocre game? Dropships gave this game a certain 'flair' and frankly are still incredibly overpriced for there now apparent capabilities. Dear CEO Pyrex,
I am writing you this letter to confirm that the ADS is now dead. Every "gud" pilot that enjoyed this "most unique and interesting aspect" of Dust is no longer able to go 56-0 in public domination, and has therefore come to the forums to provide feedback cry about it. Whilst the situation is regrettable, CCP has arranged for you to have a complimentary Bolt Pistol, which has now replaced the ADS as FOTM. This most unique and interesting pistol is generating more tears than your beloved Flaylock, which consequently also received a buff. Please give it a go and let us know what you think!
Cheers,
All Your Fans from Da Forums |
ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
3261
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:04:00 -
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Pyrex you should do some work out vids, increase that viewer feed...
Escrow Removal and Acquisition- Our ERA has only just begun...
Gym Bro/ Meat Head -- CrossFit enthusiast
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3770
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:07:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Well interesting point, they actually never were invincible you know.... if you had the ability to..... like be good.... and work as a team, no dropship in the game was safe....
Here's the problem Pyrex:
* You thought you could (and should) be able to take on two guys no problem. * You think at least two guys should be needed to kill you.
In short: You think you should always be more powerful than infantry, and that thought is wrong.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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medomai grey
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
988
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:08:00 -
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Go read the hotfix notes
What percentile of Dust514's infantry arsenal belongs to the category of machine guns?
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You Are Inferior
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:14:00 -
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Lol I don't think I have lost one ship... I take that back a blueberry stole a ship from me... Get on my level bitches and lock your ship doors.
It didn't taste like abortion.?.?.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3319
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:34:00 -
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I love when he talks about ISK when he's robbed like a Billion from his corp, my absolute favorite is when he created a video saying how a tax rate of 15% or more was pushing it and 20 was high way robbery when his corp has a 10% tax. Tax is designed to fund Planetary Conquest the money is used to cover Clone Packs and the fee for transfering clones from one district to the next. Since his corp is doing neither of those two actions his action is just flat out robbery.
Tanker/Logi/Assault
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
223
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:39:00 -
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BTW Pyrex the flaylock got buffed u gonna try it out???
44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault(1.7) 35/0 in a Proto Heavy(1.8)
Open Beta Vet-30mil sp
R.I.P Dust514
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
567
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:43:00 -
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T W A T.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
486
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:48:00 -
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I like your videos.
Keep them up.
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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gustavo acosta
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
301
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:49:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I like your videos.
Keep them up. I'd rather him quit and give me all his isk...because that's the noble thing to do
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
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hfderrtgvcd
557
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:51:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I like your videos.
Keep them up. I don't. They're all so negative and depressing
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1551
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:17:00 -
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You've been complaining non-stop about this game from the first day you posted to YouTube.
It is not surprising then that you played one game, got killed when you decided to take on two AV players, and are now complaining again.
History has a way of repeating itself.
lolDestiny |
BlazeXYZ
xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
247
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:39:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:SO i just got home for the week from work and thought i would quickly check out Hotfix Delta and see what the buzz was.
Loaded in and went straight into a game, heard some noise about dropship changes so thought i would stat here. Dropship comes in and i start flying away. my first thought was "did i call in a gorgon?" i had to check and fire a round to check it was an ADS.
Okay so it handles now like a chopper carrying a skip loaded with used washing machines. Okay well fair enough lets go see what it can do.
Hovering over the point i see two dudes jump out of an LAV and immediately look up at me with the same look a tiger gives that little gazelle before someone turns into a buffet luncheon. Nevermind i think, i can take two dudes on.......
4 swarms later im lying on the floor surrounded by smoking wreckage with my front teeth in my hands and my balls slightly aching..... "wow swarms hit hard now"
So even tho i was in a pretty tanked Incubus and even tho i kicked the afterburner expecting to yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose, it all went wrong.
So i have to ask, why CCP would you severely limit the functionality of one of the most unique and interesting aspects of a very mediocre game? Dropships gave this game a certain 'flair' and frankly are still incredibly overpriced for there now apparent capabilities.
I recall someone telling me 'this is due to the numbers saying they are OP' well if the numbers are correct, then your game is also a massive failure and you should just shut down the servers now.....going by the numbers....if they are that important to you.
Is anyone alive at the wheel of this game anymore? feels like its pretty much just the 'number boyz' now pushing their own agendas. This continues to show an every increasing slide into balancing being all that matters.
Oh well - back to Destiny.
You know the flaylock got buffed.........not as much from the old days though.
The Blazing Intellect Machine
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
347
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:42:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Joel II X wrote:ADS with After Burners aren't invincible anymore. Working as intended.
Have fun in Destiny. Well interesting point, they actually never were invincible you know.... if you had the ability to..... like be good.... and work as a team, no dropship in the game was safe.... Still nice to see you are the voice of this game now. Hows the match making going? enjoying playing with even less people day on day? I see they fixed the farming of starter isk as well so expect to see perhaps 900 people less on at peak times.... GG HF GG HF M8
Pyrex I normally agree with your tactics on your vids, and am subscribed because of your dust vids, but when it comes to balance between AV and ADS you must know that your opinion will be bias?! Like my opinion on the same issue will be for the AV.
Why do we need 5 guys swarming you to kill you when you only need one guy to kill all of us.... ALL 16 OF US LIKE 40 TIMES! Have you factored in how much the proto swarms cost just to die 5 or 6 times, and never kill the ADS??!! Maybe, just maybe, the ADS was never meant to fight that way? If you mount three guns with two friendlies on comms, like the rest of us, you could still go 40/0! The pilot just has to know that the first swarm/forge that lands need to be the signal to haul *ss!!! You can't just eat dmg and deal dmg with immunity?! Remember 1.7?? Same thing with ADS.
The point is vehicles are great, but you need to be good at it! If I as assault need to proto everything to take you out, and I need help from other guys, then you should have to be proto to fly and survive like that! Same as everyone else!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Dreis Shadowweaver
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
214
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:49:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Joel II X wrote:ADS with After Burners aren't invincible anymore. Working as intended.
Have fun in Destiny. Well interesting point, they actually never were invincible you know.... if you had the ability to..... like be good.... and work as a team, no dropship in the game was safe.... Still nice to see you are the voice of this game now. Hows the match making going? enjoying playing with even less people day on day? I see they fixed the farming of starter isk as well so expect to see perhaps 900 people less on at peak times.... GG HF GG HF M8 T _ T I thought I liked you...
Join the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Juno Tristan
Inner.Hell
83
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:00:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Well interesting point, they actually never were invincible you know.... if you had the ability to..... like be good.... and work as a team, no dropship in the game was safe.... Here's the problem Pyrex: * You thought you could (and should) be able to take on two guys no problem. * You think at least two guys should be needed to kill you. In short: You think you should always be more powerful than infantry, and that thought is wrong.
Heavies devastate rooms full of reds
Nova knives can pick off whole teams
Re/Shotgun scouts can kill off logi/heavy pairs with ease
RR assaults can kill off several reds crossing open ground
Snipers can plink away at entire teams
Vehicles can hit and run to take on more than one person, wait, they can't? Because if they enter a 300m dome someone might look at their general direction and launch a weapon that can't be countered by skill? (Unless you're on a building heavy match)
If you use the advantages of your weapon/vehicle then you should be able to take on more than one person at a time |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5266
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:11:00 -
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Pilots have maintained that swarmers need timing, positioning and teamwork to be effective against an ADS.
In the scenario you've described, the requisite conditions appear to have been met. Hence AV Success. In the get-away scenario you'd envisioned, the requisite conditions were still met. Yet AV Failure. Herein lies the problem ...
The pilot's mantra "teamwork is all swarmers need to kill an ADS" should've read "teamwork is all swarmers need to kill a poorly piloted ADS; otherwise the swarmers absolutely, positively need forge guns".
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
347
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:18:00 -
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Pilots are starting to sound a lot like tankers??!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Hakyou Brutor
Hak's Candy Van
1376
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:41:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Pilots are starting to sound a lot like tankers??! you're starting to sound a lot like a bitch
actually that's been going on for awhile now |
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
8107
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:43:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:SO i just got home for the week from work and thought i would quickly check out Hotfix Delta and see what the buzz was.
Loaded in and went straight into a game, heard some noise about dropship changes so thought i would stat here. Dropship comes in and i start flying away. my first thought was "did i call in a gorgon?" i had to check and fire a round to check it was an ADS.
Okay so it handles now like a chopper carrying a skip loaded with used washing machines. Okay well fair enough lets go see what it can do.
Hovering over the point i see two dudes jump out of an LAV and immediately look up at me with the same look a tiger gives that little gazelle before someone turns into a buffet luncheon. Nevermind i think, i can take two dudes on.......
4 swarms later im lying on the floor surrounded by smoking wreckage with my front teeth in my hands and my balls slightly aching..... "wow swarms hit hard now"
So even tho i was in a pretty tanked Incubus and even tho i kicked the afterburner expecting to yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose, it all went wrong.
So i have to ask, why CCP would you severely limit the functionality of one of the most unique and interesting aspects of a very mediocre game? Dropships gave this game a certain 'flair' and frankly are still incredibly overpriced for there now apparent capabilities.
I recall someone telling me 'this is due to the numbers saying they are OP' well if the numbers are correct, then your game is also a massive failure and you should just shut down the servers now.....going by the numbers....if they are that important to you.
Is anyone alive at the wheel of this game anymore? feels like its pretty much just the 'number boyz' now pushing their own agendas. This continues to show an every increasing slide into balancing being all that matters.
Oh well - back to Destiny.
Once, I was also killed by two players
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
457
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:44:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Well interesting point, they actually never were invincible you know.... if you had the ability to..... like be good.... and work as a team, no dropship in the game was safe.... Here's the problem Pyrex: * You thought you could (and should) be able to take on two guys no problem. * You think at least two guys should be needed to kill you. In short: You think you should always be more powerful than infantry, and that thought is wrong. Heavies devastate rooms full of reds Nova knives can pick off whole teams Re/Shotgun scouts can kill off logi/heavy pairs with ease RR assaults can kill off several reds crossing open ground Snipers can plink away at entire teams Vehicles can hit and run to take on more than one person, wait, they can't? Because if they enter a 300m dome someone might look at their general direction and launch a weapon that can't be countered by skill? (Unless you're on a building heavy match) If you use the advantages of your weapon/vehicle then you should be able to take on more than one person at a time All those examples still only require one person to stop. Not 3. |
valad II
NoGameNoLife
125
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:50:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:SO i just got home for the week from work and thought i would quickly check out Hotfix Delta and see what the buzz was.
Loaded in and went straight into a game, heard some noise about dropship changes so thought i would stat here. Dropship comes in and i start flying away. my first thought was "did i call in a gorgon?" i had to check and fire a round to check it was an ADS.
Okay so it handles now like a chopper carrying a skip loaded with used washing machines. Okay well fair enough lets go see what it can do.
Hovering over the point i see two dudes jump out of an LAV and immediately look up at me with the same look a tiger gives that little gazelle before someone turns into a buffet luncheon. Nevermind i think, i can take two dudes on.......
4 swarms later im lying on the floor surrounded by smoking wreckage with my front teeth in my hands and my balls slightly aching..... "wow swarms hit hard now"
So even tho i was in a pretty tanked Incubus and even tho i kicked the afterburner expecting to yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose, it all went wrong.
So i have to ask, why CCP would you severely limit the functionality of one of the most unique and interesting aspects of a very mediocre game? Dropships gave this game a certain 'flair' and frankly are still incredibly overpriced for there now apparent capabilities.
I recall someone telling me 'this is due to the numbers saying they are OP' well if the numbers are correct, then your game is also a massive failure and you should just shut down the servers now.....going by the numbers....if they are that important to you.
Is anyone alive at the wheel of this game anymore? feels like its pretty much just the 'number boyz' now pushing their own agendas. This continues to show an every increasing slide into balancing being all that matters.
Oh well - back to Destiny.
Sir, Uncle Pyrex,
Can I haz ur isk? You don't need that billion playing destiny. |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3526
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:52:00 -
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Is Pyrex complaining because he died to two coordinated AV players who he thought would be no problem to solo? |
Echo 1991
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
457
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:53:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:SO i just got home for the week from work and thought i would quickly check out Hotfix Delta and see what the buzz was.
Loaded in and went straight into a game, heard some noise about dropship changes so thought i would stat here. Dropship comes in and i start flying away. my first thought was "did i call in a gorgon?" i had to check and fire a round to check it was an ADS.
Okay so it handles now like a chopper carrying a skip loaded with used washing machines. Okay well fair enough lets go see what it can do.
Hovering over the point i see two dudes jump out of an LAV and immediately look up at me with the same look a tiger gives that little gazelle before someone turns into a buffet luncheon. Nevermind i think, i can take two dudes on.......
4 swarms later im lying on the floor surrounded by smoking wreckage with my front teeth in my hands and my balls slightly aching..... "wow swarms hit hard now"
So even tho i was in a pretty tanked Incubus and even tho i kicked the afterburner expecting to yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose, it all went wrong.
So i have to ask, why CCP would you severely limit the functionality of one of the most unique and interesting aspects of a very mediocre game? Dropships gave this game a certain 'flair' and frankly are still incredibly overpriced for there now apparent capabilities.
I recall someone telling me 'this is due to the numbers saying they are OP' well if the numbers are correct, then your game is also a massive failure and you should just shut down the servers now.....going by the numbers....if they are that important to you.
Is anyone alive at the wheel of this game anymore? feels like its pretty much just the 'number boyz' now pushing their own agendas. This continues to show an every increasing slide into balancing being all that matters.
Oh well - back to Destiny. So what I got from that was: I thought I could engage 2 people and if I got hit I could lolAB away. It didn't work so now ADS is now useless. You tanked an incubus and wondered why it handled like a brick. |
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