no its not, Air vehicles> Land Vehicles> infantry
if enough infantry work together then yes they should be able to beat you,
if the CPM actually did something and it was just a tittle and you werent living off the previous CPM, maybe this ship wouldnt be going down so fast

They can't do that to the suit/weapon/equipment designed to counter them. E.g. A scout won't take out a room full of GalLogis with scanners. A heavy won't take out a room full of cloaked shotgun scouts, an RR will get melted by a group of LRs in open ground, etc.

A/V is the counter to vehicles. Paper beats rock. It shouldn't require several pieces of paper to beat rock.

Really? You played one game, died once and quit? Seriously?

So this is how it went down.

CEO Pyrex joined a game, got his ADS out, killed ONE dude and died. Then he rage quit and came running to the forums. Wow man, just wow.

no its not, Air vehicles> Land Vehicles> infantry
if enough infantry work together then yes they should be able to beat you,
if the CPM actually did something and it was just a tittle and you werent living off the previous CPM, maybe this ship wouldnt be going down so fast

you're starting to sound a lot like a bitch

actually that's been going on for awhile now

SO i just got home for the week from work and thought i would quickly check out Hotfix Delta and see what the buzz was.

Loaded in and went straight into a game, heard some noise about dropship changes so thought i would stat here. Dropship comes in and i start flying away. my first thought was "did i call in a gorgon?" i had to check and fire a round to check it was an ADS.

Okay so it handles now like a chopper carrying a skip loaded with used washing machines. Okay well fair enough lets go see what it can do.

Hovering over the point i see two dudes jump out of an LAV and immediately look up at me with the same look a tiger gives that little gazelle before someone turns into a buffet luncheon. Nevermind i think, i can take two dudes on.......

4 swarms later im lying on the floor surrounded by smoking wreckage with my front teeth in my hands and my balls slightly aching..... "wow swarms hit hard now"

So even tho i was in a pretty tanked Incubus and even tho i kicked the afterburner expecting to yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose, it all went wrong.

So i have to ask, why CCP would you severely limit the functionality of one of the most unique and interesting aspects of a very mediocre game? Dropships gave this game a certain 'flair' and frankly are still incredibly overpriced for there now apparent capabilities.

I recall someone telling me 'this is due to the numbers saying they are OP' well if the numbers are correct, then your game is also a massive failure and you should just shut down the servers now.....going by the numbers....if they are that important to you.

Is anyone alive at the wheel of this game anymore? feels like its pretty much just the 'number boyz' now pushing their own agendas. This continues to show an every increasing slide into balancing being all that matters.

Oh well - back to Destiny.

Can I have your ISK?

SO i just got home for the week from work and thought i would quickly check out Hotfix Delta and see what the buzz was.

Loaded in and went straight into a game, heard some noise about dropship changes so thought i would stat here. Dropship comes in and i start flying away. my first thought was "did i call in a gorgon?" i had to check and fire a round to check it was an ADS.

Okay so it handles now like a chopper carrying a skip loaded with used washing machines. Okay well fair enough lets go see what it can do.

Hovering over the point i see two dudes jump out of an LAV and immediately look up at me with the same look a tiger gives that little gazelle before someone turns into a buffet luncheon. Nevermind i think, i can take two dudes on.......

4 swarms later im lying on the floor surrounded by smoking wreckage with my front teeth in my hands and my balls slightly aching..... "wow swarms hit hard now"

So even tho i was in a pretty tanked Incubus and even tho i kicked the afterburner expecting to yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose, it all went wrong.

So i have to ask, why CCP would you severely limit the functionality of one of the most unique and interesting aspects of a very mediocre game? Dropships gave this game a certain 'flair' and frankly are still incredibly overpriced for there now apparent capabilities.

I recall someone telling me 'this is due to the numbers saying they are OP' well if the numbers are correct, then your game is also a massive failure and you should just shut down the servers now.....going by the numbers....if they are that important to you.

Is anyone alive at the wheel of this game anymore? feels like its pretty much just the 'number boyz' now pushing their own agendas. This continues to show an every increasing slide into balancing being all that matters.

Oh well - back to Destiny.

I found the problem.

"I was hovering over the point..."
That gets you killed.

"Two dudes jumped out of an LAV..."
That didn't throw up any red flags?


Stay on the move and land strafing shots. This way, your position is always changing which can cause confusion. Plus, you have initial velocity if you need to escape.

I think what's worse is that I'm a very inexperienced ADS pilot (about 3 months) and I'm giving advice to this guy. The pubstomping goes to people's heads, I guess.

Here's the problem Pyrex:

* You thought you could (and should) be able to take on two guys no problem.
* You think at least two guys should be needed to kill you.

In short: You think you should always be more powerful than infantry, and that thought is wrong.

Someone's butthurt they didn't get CPM! LMAO

I agree with Ceopyrex,I know u guys want to have a debate about what works or what not.
But facts are on the table,u might be a pilot or a ground force,but we all go throught out all the stages of this game.
Back on beta I was a sniper,got chewed up on the battled field by people with more skills.
Then I went assault,heavy and scout..but just as we all know ,we can only do the same thing over and over again for so long.
So I skilled up on dropships,other people went for tanks..and each face of this game has its beauty and fun.
We Vets paid our dues and we did grind enough to deserve what we acomplished.
Now all the noobs want to be pampered and not paid your dues like we did,that's fine to a point.
As a pilot all I see now is CCP taking a 3 dimention game and turn it in to a 2 dimention.
Would I use rail guns again...nope, and I would love to put a ticket to get a refund for my millions of isk spent on skilling them up.
So when u guys get tank spammed, u might think wow would be nice to have some pilot chasing those tanks.
As I see it now..I won't quit this game but I have played enough to know that only takes time for Ccp to buff and nerf everything in a never ending cicle of kissing noobs asses...cause at the end of the day they only want you to skill up on everything that is working great for a while and take ur hard erned skills away so u will skill up in some other thing.
Until you babies cry OP again...like oh yes the bolt pistol go ahead and skill up to level 5,grind your ass out for it and wait til the next hotfix.
Just remember that one day u will be a vet,bored of the same maps,same tactics and u will want to try another dimention of the game.
Oh wait you won't be able to cause you will have a pile of **** to choose from cause noobs always complain.
I never even onced complained about anything,took it like a man from noob stages,grinded enough and killed enough to deserve my Sp.
I will split my time now with destiny and dust feeling like it will be more and more destiny than dust as time goes by.

Well interesting point, they actually never were invincible you know.... if you had the ability to..... like be good.... and work as a team, no dropship in the game was safe....

Still nice to see you are the voice of this game now. Hows the match making going? enjoying playing with even less people day on day?

I see they fixed the farming of starter isk as well so expect to see perhaps 900 people less on at peak times....

GG HF GG HF M8

Gloating because something you didn't like got nerfed isn't being 'blunt', it's being an ass. Assault dropships really weren't that bad. Acting all high and mighty over it is simply obnoxious.

SO i just got home for the week from work and thought i would quickly check out Hotfix Delta and see what the buzz was.

Loaded in and went straight into a game, heard some noise about dropship changes so thought i would stat here. Dropship comes in and i start flying away. my first thought was "did i call in a gorgon?" i had to check and fire a round to check it was an ADS.

Okay so it handles now like a chopper carrying a skip loaded with used washing machines. Okay well fair enough lets go see what it can do.

Hovering over the point i see two dudes jump out of an LAV and immediately look up at me with the same look a tiger gives that little gazelle before someone turns into a buffet luncheon. Nevermind i think, i can take two dudes on.......

4 swarms later im lying on the floor surrounded by smoking wreckage with my front teeth in my hands and my balls slightly aching..... "wow swarms hit hard now"

So even tho i was in a pretty tanked Incubus and even tho i kicked the afterburner expecting to yolo out of there like Maverick and Goose, it all went wrong.

So i have to ask, why CCP would you severely limit the functionality of one of the most unique and interesting aspects of a very mediocre game? Dropships gave this game a certain 'flair' and frankly are still incredibly overpriced for there now apparent capabilities.

I recall someone telling me 'this is due to the numbers saying they are OP' well if the numbers are correct, then your game is also a massive failure and you should just shut down the servers now.....going by the numbers....if they are that important to you.

Is anyone alive at the wheel of this game anymore? feels like its pretty much just the 'number boyz' now pushing their own agendas. This continues to show an every increasing slide into balancing being all that matters.

Oh well - back to Destiny.

Really, I don't have personal problems with the ADS. (I tend to use a forge gun, which generally works well.) But it doesn't make them any less hilariously OP, and any less deserving of a nerf. It isn't about the dropships at all, if anything, it's heckling people who are very apparently grossly trying to protect their OPness, rather than realizing good balance will make the game better for everyone.

Note there are some ADS pilots who have made legitimate commentary. That they want a chance to kill infantry, just as infantry has a chance to kill them. I am totally cool with that, and if changes can be made to better enable fair gameplay between the two, I am all for it. But people talking about how their dropship shouldn't be killable by this or that, they're going to get the troll response.

Here's the problem Pyrex:

* You thought

**** off soraya, you have the worst attitude I've ever seen about vehicles.

Heavies devastate rooms full of reds

Nova knives can pick off whole teams

Re/Shotgun scouts can kill off logi/heavy pairs with ease

RR assaults can kill off several reds crossing open ground

Snipers can plink away at entire teams

Vehicles can hit and run to take on more than one person, wait, they can't? Because if they enter a 300m dome someone might look at their general direction and launch a weapon that can't be countered by skill? (Unless you're on a building heavy match)

If you use the advantages of your weapon/vehicle then you should be able to take on more than one person at a time