No, a vehicle should not be the same as one infantry. Why? Because it is not infantry. It is a vehicle. A vehicle can not do what infantry can do, which is run and jump and hide. It is trading maneuverability and flexibility for heavy firepower and defense. A tank has to sit there, a big target to do anything. One person being able to kill a tank or ADS makes everyone speccing into the FOTM AV way too appealing and too easy to do.

What needs to exist are powerful counters such as installation cannons being more powerful yet fewer on the field but in effective locations. Better yet should be player owned, racial based artillery units.

These would be limited like installation cannons but effective as a one player counter. They would be limited by lack of movement and amount allowed at any one time as well as how long before another one can be called in.

One infantry with AV, being able to be so mobile is just too easy a counter. It would be ok if you had that one guy that may or may not be on the field. It doesn't happen like that. AV being an easy FOTM counter makes everybody field it all the time. This happened before. Also, Nyain San anyone?

Idk why the hell you obsessed or trying to cling to that kdr... it's just doesn't make sense. Some ppl will have high KDR (regardless of chosen role) no matter what, even if you nerf absolutely everything in game. It's completly diffrent story if you talking about certain item effectivess (like RR KDR over all other rifles)... but you're not.

I'm saying that main problem is in map & architecture (buildings) design, that not including every role in the game to be more or less viable (especially on certain maps). But MM will throw you on RANDOM maps, where you can be totaly useless as dedicated ADS pilot or sniper, despite of good MM between teams & squads. Solo play style should be viable. Being in squad automaticaly raising your effectiveness & statistics, even if you don't deserve it.

Creating a decent balanced maps will almost auto balance everything else, or there will be simple and obvious solutions. For example Manus Peak should be completly removed (or redesigned & expanded), it's almost totaly redzone small map with tiny fight area.

Currently CCP trying balance MM & items over existing maps, mechanics & most players will agree that they are bad (maps & mechanics ). Creating restrictions (based on forum whining, whine enough and you will get your buff or nerf) where they shouldn't be & don't do such where is must be done long time ago.

ability to simply jump out and...

Stuff you said

rammed by your own dropship

Some roles having high KDR

I'm not one to typically do this, but here we go.

Your recent proposals are simply stupidity at it's max. First you indicate that ADS are OP because you yourself can't kill one with swarms, so buff swarms. Ok, sure maybe a slight buff is needed.

Now you feel it necessary to nerf the ROF. Umm, ok. Just ******* remove vehicles *******. I've stuck it out for a long time but with the advent of destiny (which I'm having WAY more fun with) and this crazy balancing act you have decided to go with, I'm done. Things are way more balanced than you think, but you choose to listen to the "BAD PLAYERS".

I played 2 games this weekend, my ADS was denied by a SINGLE swarm launcher, and my tank had little impact due to insane AV out in an OMS. But you continually feel AV needs more buffs. Go PC and see what happens when good players play with balanced suit match ups.

GG ratt, it was a nice try but way to screw the pooch. I'll be sticking with destiny, me and most everyone I've played with on dust. And no, you can't have my isk, I'd rather it sit there and waste away.

This doesn't happen every time

It shouldn't happen at all on air vehicles, in real life there is proper ejection sys. on any military air vehicles.

This is a bug

This thread has really been educational.

As in, it taught me who doesn't actually play PC.

SWARMs are lock & launch, FGs point & click.

Please , stop being dramatic because it's not that serious .

HAV's in this game are garbage .

I'm not looking to be invincible in any vehicle but vehicle's in this game are just not worth the SP's that it take to make a decent fit .

I spend my time destroying vehicles and I see they are garbage .

The rate of fire change was needed .

50 % rate of fire increase was just too much .