I shouldn't have to have 3 to 4 squad members firing at one scout to drop him. Running away and dodging I get, but these guys are coming toward the fire and surviving!

10/10

it's easier to do the figure-8 strafe with a controller. much harder to it, and the controller gets better interface mileage.

CCP removed most of the usefulness from KB/M. It's about as gimped as a game interface can get.

We also lost a lot of players and gained a few when CCP torched the interface

it's easier to do the figure-8 strafe with a controller. much harder to it, and the controller gets better interface mileage.

CCP removed most of the usefulness from KB/M. It's about as gimped as a game interface can get.

We also lost a lot of players and gained a few when CCP torched the interface

Oddly enough...


That's not a troll. It happens on occasion.

Usually it takes me to kill the scout since I can aim sadly. The cold hard truth is a lot of people in this game suck at aiming.

...Have you ever used kb/m? I agree that strafing is op, even if its not viable on kb(leftright no aa)
But please, no more nerfs to kb/m, its already quite gimped as it is. Try shotgunning with a mouse for once

:facepalm: there is no strafe speed advantage, if it is, it must be quite miniscule
You say it takes time to shift analog stick? It also take stime to alternate your fingers and apply pressure on a key

I have written on this many times and nothing has yet to be done it has no even been addressed as a problem by ccp ever.

I have no idea what this figure-8 console controller strafe is, but if it gives console controller players some kind of advantage over kb/m or move controller players i say it goes too!.

It's literally what it says it is. Strafing in a figure 8 pattern.

And it's not something you can just remove from the game.

This doesn't work anywhere near the manner in which i'm referring, but we all know you already know this. Escaping bad aim through movement at range makes sense. What i'm referring to is dodging 10 meters out in front of a heavy! Heavies in his optimal, with more armor and shields, and the right weapon. Scouts got a rifle of any type, and will have to reload to kill the heavy?! How does the scout win that? Without NK's or a shotgun it would be statistically impossible right? Oh wait, just strafe and the heavy will miss with 450 rounds?!?! Even you can admit this doesn't make sense.

:facepalm: there is no strafe speed advantage, if it is, it must be quite miniscule
You say it takes time to shift analog stick? It also take stime to alternate your fingers and apply pressure on a key

I have written on this many times and nothing has yet to be done it has no even been addressed as a problem by ccp ever.

I have written on this many times and nothing has yet to be done it has no even been addressed as a problem by ccp ever.

Nerf strafing and make this game even slower paced?

The keyboard DOES NOT strafe faster than the controller, go test it.

Adding inertia to strafing would make the game faster, since you couldn't use herky-jerky dancing to dodge fire at point blank range.

Time to kill would drop pretty hard and make your fit more important than your ability to make the controller do funky things.

After a total lack of analysis, in which I spent zero time exploring the difference in strafe speeds between keyboard and DS3, I determined that the inertia that does in fact exist in the game, does not exist.

I also believe that the milliseconds of difference between A and D and Full Left and Full Right on the DS3 is the sole reason I can't hit people.

And trust me, I can't hit ANYBODY, so like 95% of the people in this game are using cheater keyboards with super strafing, something that totally exists.

And the reason that 95% of people in this game use KB/M is because the Dust implementation of the mouse is superior to DS3 with aim assist.

In fact, all the top players use keyboard and mouse.

In addition, I know that strafing has been in shooters since before I was in diapers, but I don't like it. It makes me have to aim, and that's kinda like trying, and I don't like trying.

I don't want to try to aim, even when aim assist and bullet magnetism takes care of the hard part of aiming: the part where you aim.

I cry foul, FOUL I say at people who try to dodge the gaze of my rifle, I want my future shooter game with spaceships, cloaks, speed modules, and energy weapons to be more realistic, but I don't want to go through the trouble of playing ARMA.

Maybe they can't fix it in Dust, but when Legion comes out on the PC, hopefully they'll finally nerf the crap out of the KB/M.

This whole thread can be summarized as follows:

Adding inertia to strafing would make the game faster, since you couldn't use herky-jerky dancing to dodge fire at point blank range.

Time to kill would drop pretty hard and make your fit more important than your ability to make the controller do funky things.

So the last shred of speed tanking in this game would be totally gone. Speedtanking, that play-style that has been diminishing since the beta is already on its last legs, I've been trying to salvage the last remnants recently for fun.

You cant seriously want to push scouts and others to brick tank even more can you?!

Simply as I can put this, it makes no sense. Why do we allow kb/m players to use the lack of sensitivity as a crutch to dodge? Some of them literally close distance to one v one and strafe back and forth to avoid dmg. While this is a tactic, it's not a in-game mod to spec into. Meaning it's more of an exploitation of flawed game mechanics. I promise that no one can do this in real life!

We want the science fiction part to make sense in a real life sense. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont see a great difference in movement or strafe speeds in the individual characters. The guys that do it gain a clear, non in-game, advantage over other players. They don't have to use proto gear when they can just dodge whatever you throw at them?! Aiming down sights I can understand, but once I realize he's strafing faster than I can aim I immediately switch to hipfire..... which he then still can't be hit??? I spend an unnecessary amount of time trying to kill a scout with an hmg or AR than necessary. 201 shield and 120 armor doesn't spell out Close quarter survivability to me?! Especially when your opponent has 3 times the armor and shield. Now shotguns, re's, and NK's I get, but rifles???

Basically these guys buy themselves enough time to unload and reload at ten meters away to kill heavies with a broken game mechanic that I think can be fixed. It's not a scout thing cuz they can do it in any fit. I've seen heavies strafing??! That's absurd! How do you strafe at that speed in heavy armor? They should be able to dodge to a degree, but not to such a degree that they simply dance in front of you til you run out of ammo??! Especially when one hipfires with an AR (the hipfire master weapon) in cqc.

This should be looked at and rectified. I shouldn't have to have 3 to 4 squad members firing at one scout to drop him. Running away and dodging I get, but these guys are coming toward the fire and surviving!

Can we take a look at how we can bring movement speeds to a balanced level, not for the characters in-game, but the actual different controlling methods? If I play console controller I shouldn't have broken mechanic advantages over kb/m or move controller players. I tell you from experience that they don't even try to take cover! They simply run up, strafe til you reload, and then shoot. Or shoot while strafing if they're really good at it?!?!? They avoid complete walls of lead from multiple players at times?!