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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.09.20 20:43:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Not really.
AV stops vehicles from doing their job. That is their purpose and that is what they do.
You are not entitled to anything else, nor will you receive anything else. Vehicles are not entitled to escape destruction. No one is entitled to squat. What makes you think you are a special snowflake that gets to have his way? Besides deliberately trolling the thread? Probably because I'm smarter than pretty much everyone on the forum and actually have a paying career in competitive gaming, whereas most of the folks who come on here are idiotic neckbeards who strive for a relevance they will never attain.
Well, I'm the one guy smarter than you and I say, Nananana booboo.
Because, that's why.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2928
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Posted - 2014.09.20 20:45:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:
Well, I'm the one guy smarter than you and I say, Nananana booboo.
I've seen smarter chihuahuas. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.09.20 20:48:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:
Well, I'm the one guy smarter than you and I say, Nananana booboo.
I've seen smarter chihuahuas.
Did I spell Nananana wrong again?
Because, that's why.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2930
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Posted - 2014.09.20 22:03:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:
Well, I'm the one guy smarter than you and I say, Nananana booboo.
I've seen smarter chihuahuas. Did I spell Nananana wrong again?
Oddly, wasn't referencing you.
I will next time so you don't feel left out. |
Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.09.21 15:14:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Currently, it is possible for a single player to solo a single vehicle given proper skills and situations. I should know, I do it sometimes.
Unfortunately, the only current way to do that requires a forge gun. Swarms (pre buff) and PLC are just not capable of doing that. The thing is, I'm not sure they should. Forge is a heavy weapon, the rest are light. Heavy weapons should be a major threat to all vehicles. Light's should need at least two people, imo.
As an ADS pilot, I have lost ships to Swarms and Forges, never to a PLC. When I lose a ship to swarms, it's my own fault though for either not paying attention or being cocky. When I lose a ship to forges, it's usually either a skilled forger or he bounced me into a building.
I don't think that milita level AV should be able to kill anything that is fit better than militia by its self, other wise there's no reason to skill into the higher tiers of weaponry, but if someone invests the time and SP into getting proto forges/swarms/plc then they should be able to lay down the pain to vehicles.
I agree.
When someone is a Heavy AV player they are sacrificing mobility and a lot of anti infantry capability to take out vehicles so it seems about right that a heavy with damage mods and a good forge gun be able to take out a tank.
Light weapons should be able to disrupt vehicles and if they team up take them out.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:19:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:RayRay James wrote:Currently, it is possible for a single player to solo a single vehicle given proper skills and situations. I should know, I do it sometimes.
Unfortunately, the only current way to do that requires a forge gun. Swarms (pre buff) and PLC are just not capable of doing that. The thing is, I'm not sure they should. Forge is a heavy weapon, the rest are light. Heavy weapons should be a major threat to all vehicles. Light's should need at least two people, imo.
As an ADS pilot, I have lost ships to Swarms and Forges, never to a PLC. When I lose a ship to swarms, it's my own fault though for either not paying attention or being cocky. When I lose a ship to forges, it's usually either a skilled forger or he bounced me into a building.
I don't think that milita level AV should be able to kill anything that is fit better than militia by its self, other wise there's no reason to skill into the higher tiers of weaponry, but if someone invests the time and SP into getting proto forges/swarms/plc then they should be able to lay down the pain to vehicles.
I agree. When someone is a Heavy AV player they are sacrificing mobility and a lot of anti infantry capability to take out vehicles so it seems about right that a heavy with damage mods and a good forge gun be able to take out a tank. Light weapons should be able to disrupt vehicles and if they team up take them out.
Which is tougher to kill?
* A low-mobility 1000HP Forge Heavy with a decent SMG or MagSec.
* A high-mobility 300HP Scout with Proto Swarms and a decent SMG or MagSec.
Point being, mobility isn't the only consideration.
The biggest problem with the "should need two people" defense is that two or more Light AVers quite often engage vehicles simultaneously to no avail. I've observed half an enemy team trying to take down an ADS with swarms. I've personally sync'd strikes with another high proficiency swarmer after getting the drop on a preoccupied ADS. In both cases, the only way the ADS will lose is if he's poorly fit or poorly piloted.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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