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CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 6456	Posted - 2014.09.02 08:19:00 - [1] - Quote Mercenaries We are basically just increasing eHP of these Minmatar dropsuits, to keep consistency between Amarr and Caldari/Gallente vs Minmatar and Caldari/Gallente. Excuse the format. Proposal ShieldArmorTotalprop Shieldprop Armorprop Total Medium Basic 150135285160140300 Medium Assault 200185385210190400 Heavy Commando300260560330290620 Heavy Basic 390370760410390800 Heavy Sentinel 390435825410460870 "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1236	Posted - 2014.09.02 08:21:00 - [2] - Quote I take it all logistics will be looked at separately eventually (When is that by the way? Wasn't it slated for delta alongside commandos?) Aside from that it looks pretty okay. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2766	Posted - 2014.09.02 08:24:00 - [3] - Quote Seems legit, if speed values are untouched. Looking forward some logi love in hotfix echo. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 6456	Posted - 2014.09.02 08:26:00 - [4] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I take it all logistics will be looked at separately eventually (When is that by the way? Wasn't it slated for delta alongside commandos?) Aside from that it looks pretty okay. CCP Rattati wrote: Hotfix Delta or later Sidearm rebalance Sniper Rifle review Efficacy bonuses Further slot based PG/CPU updates based on necessity, Scouts, Commandos, Logistics "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Francois Sanchez What The French Red Whines. 100	Posted - 2014.09.02 08:29:00 - [5] - Quote Nice. My Minmando is happy. Are you going to remove basic suits? Because they were already useless before (no bonus compared to specialized suits), but now there is moreover a big HP gap (especially between the medium suit and the assault) And I've always wondered why they were more expensive...

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 6456	Posted - 2014.09.02 08:51:00 - [6] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: Nice. My Minmando is happy. Are you going to remove basic suits? Because they were already useless before (no bonus compared to specialized suits), but now there is moreover a big HP gap (especially between the medium suit and the assault) And I've always wondered why they were more expensive... A problem for a later day, there are ways to make them more useful (more PG/CPU, less slots), more HP less PG/CPU to help new players, much cheaper ISK, etc. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1037	Posted - 2014.09.02 09:25:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Excuse the format. FTFY Medium Basic 150+135(285) -> 160+140(300) Medium Assault 200+185(385) ->210+190(400) Heavy Commando 300+260(560) ->330+290(620) Heavy Basic 390+370(760) -> 410+390(800) Heavy Sentinel 390+435(825) ->410+460(870) Dust/Eve transfers
I-Shayz-I I----------I 4739	Posted - 2014.09.02 10:43:00 - [8] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Excuse the format. FTFY ... Rattati: You should also include the total ehp change. Medium Basic +15 Medium Assault +15 Heavy Commando +60 Heavy Basic +40 Heavy Sentinel +45 These numbers are going to look even more beastly with level 5 skills 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 728	Posted - 2014.09.02 11:18:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Mercenaries We are basically just increasing eHP of these Minmatar dropsuits, to keep consistency between Amarr and Caldari/Gallente vs Minmatar and Caldari/Gallente. Excuse the format. Proposal ShieldArmorTotalprop Shieldprop Armorprop Total Medium Basic 150135285160140300 Medium Assault 200185385210190400 Heavy Commando300260560330290620 Heavy Basic 390370760410390800 Heavy Sentinel 390435825410460870 looks good cannot wait to see the commando and logi buff/tweak list hopfully +1 slot on all commando and come extra cpu and pg.. so calmando basic can fit an armor repair as having to wait till advanced calmando to fit an armor repair is just bad mechanics or give them more HP/s repair on the suits themselves like 5hp/s on basic 10hp/s on adv and 15hp/s on pro.. this would open them up to useing kinkats and such.. as for logi.. caldari logi needs more cpu.. all logi need sidearms because of how much eHP everyone has now a days.. and more eHP for the logi suit.. and more definition for logi role.. IE all logi suit get the 10% rep distance and 5% rep amount minmatar get.. but also +1 or +2 CARRIED equipment per level and extra movement speed to compensate for having to brick tank cause of lack of eHP while following around rep targets [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3417	Posted - 2014.09.02 11:20:00 - [10] - Quote Don't see why it's needed personally, but I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2477	Posted - 2014.09.02 11:57:00 - [11] - Quote Its needed because of Minmatar fragility. They all have less total HP at all levels than all other dropsuit races before fitting. A slight buff to eHP means you wont have to brick min suits as hard and can focus on other things.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 534	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:26:00 - [12] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Its needed because of Minmatar fragility. They all have less total HP at all levels than all other dropsuit races before fitting. A slight buff to eHP means you wont have to brick min suits as hard and can focus on other things. i thought this was intended since they have the highest movement speeds?

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 6463	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:39:00 - [13] - Quote They still have the lowest, just not disproportionately with Delta "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4119	Posted - 2014.09.02 13:21:00 - [14] - Quote How about this for formatting. Not great, but a little easier to read I think. Proposal: Shield, Armor [Total] \| prop Shield,prop Armor [prop Total] 150,135 [285] \| 160, 140 [300] Medium Basic 200, 185 [385] \| 210, 190[400] Medium Assault: 300, 260 [560] \| 330, 290[620] Heavy Commando: 390, 370 [760] \| 410, 390[800] Heavy Basic: 390, 435 [825] \| 410, 460[870] Heavy Sentinel: Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 188	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:06:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Mercenaries We are basically just increasing eHP of these Minmatar dropsuits, to keep consistency between Amarr and Caldari/Gallente vs Minmatar and Caldari/Gallente. Excuse the format. Proposal ShieldArmorTotalprop Shieldprop Armorprop Total Medium Basic 150135285160140300 Medium Assault 200185385210190400 Heavy Commando300260560330290620 Heavy Basic 390370760410390800 Heavy Sentinel 390435825410460870 My MinSent is happy. Thankyou The Blazing Intellect Machine
Derrith Erador 2548	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:18:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Mercenaries We are basically just increasing eHP of these Minmatar dropsuits, to keep consistency between Amarr and Caldari/Gallente vs Minmatar and Caldari/Gallente. Excuse the format. Proposal / Shield/Armor/Total/prop Shield/prop Armor/prop Total Medium Basic 150 135 285 160 140 300 Medium Assault 200 185 385 210 190 400 Heavy Commando300 260 560 330 290 620 Heavy Basic 390 370 760 410 390 800 Heavy Sentinel 390 435 825 410 460 870 Tried fixing it, didn't work. The preacher of Betty White, may her pimp hand guide me.
Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 223	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:23:00 - [17] - Quote Why no love for the Min logi ? Minmatar logi <3 Moonlighting as an Amarr logi occasionally Minmatar Nova Knife scout in training
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 811	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:46:00 - [18] - Quote Hawkings Greenback wrote: Why no love for the Min logi ? Because their current 240 eHP is OP. Joking aside, all I want is their 30 HP that was taken for no reason with the release of Uprising. 120 Shield, 150 Armor. Make it happen please Rattati! Melee Weapon of Choice: Nokia-3310 Prof. V
zzZaXxx D3ATH CARD 465	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:47:00 - [19] - Quote Great move, but why no change for min scout or logi? I get that they'll be looked at later but that seems like a separate issue.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 6482	Posted - 2014.09.02 15:08:00 - [20] - Quote Hawkings Greenback wrote: Why no love for the Min logi ? MM logi was fine, 240 vs GA/CA at 270 and Amarr at 300, 30 difference on both sides. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3319	Posted - 2014.09.02 15:39:00 - [21] - Quote I said it in a previous thread, but I'd just like to reiterate: if you are going to buff Minmatar across the board, as a Minmatar user, I think it would be much more beneficial for the suits to receive shield recharge and/or recharge delay buffs rather than eHP buffs. I don't know about other people, but I definitely didn't choose the Minmatar for their tanky-ness. SP Sinks? Fixed.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2203	Posted - 2014.09.02 16:52:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Mercenaries We are basically just increasing eHP of these Minmatar dropsuits, to keep consistency between Amarr and Caldari/Gallente vs Minmatar and Caldari/Gallente. Excuse the format. Proposal ShieldArmorTotalprop Shieldprop Armorprop Total Medium Basic 150135285160140300 Medium Assault 200185385210190400 Heavy Commando300260560330290620 Heavy Basic 390370760410390800 Heavy Sentinel 390435825410460870 The numbers are reasonable, and being a dyed-in-blood throat slitter of Ammarrians young and old i can't hate it, but i feel like you are really missing an opportunity to give the game and the races a strong identity here. Moar ehp is like more porridge - it'll keep you alive longer but it is BORING AS HELL. The thing about buffing shield regen rate and decreasing the regen delay is that it forces a different playstyle, and the identity of the suits would come through forcefully in how you handle your merc and inform decisions about viable tactics, etc. This goes for the other races as well, but focusing on Minmatar here atm. I'm sure it makes your balancing job harder, but in the long run better racial identity is much better for the game. PSN: RationalSpark
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1238	Posted - 2014.09.02 17:12:00 - [23] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: I said it in a previous thread, but I'd just like to reiterate: if you are going to buff Minmatar across the board, as a Minmatar user, I think it would be much more beneficial for the suits to receive shield recharge and/or recharge delay buffs rather than eHP buffs. I don't know about other people, but I definitely didn't choose the Minmatar for their tanky-ness. Also this, minmatar suits seem to have really crazy long delays for no justifiable reason. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Gabriel Ceja Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 48	Posted - 2014.09.02 19:18:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: They still have the lowest, just not disproportionately with Delta Hey they may still be weaker next to the others but heck I'll take it all my Minmatar suits thank you. Did you hear that fellow Minmatar were getting an extra layer of duct tape for our suits woooo!!! "Throw on the flux capacitor." activates fuel injector "WOOOOOO!!!"
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2081	Posted - 2014.09.02 23:33:00 - [25] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I take it all logistics will be looked at separately eventually (When is that by the way? Wasn't it slated for delta alongside commandos?) Aside from that it looks pretty okay. When Uprising 1.8 dropped all Medium Frames were hurting. Glad to see Assaults finally make it out. It really was disgusting yesterday while at a buddy's place yesterday (Labor Day). His Assault had on a plate and was still faster than my Minmatar Logi who only uses Ferroscale. It didn't help the newly improved Light Complex Damage Modifiers made things even worse. If a decision has been made to ignore the health issue then some other parts of the stat-line and/or skills needs more bacon. Otherwise the next hotfix is DOA. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
Jace Kaisar 82	Posted - 2014.09.03 00:34:00 - [26] - Quote Where is my Scout? I'm a Spooky Scary Ghost Before you ask, yes this is me.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2237	Posted - 2014.09.03 01:53:00 - [27] - Quote Can you buff the scout to have exactly 360 shield HP with 3x complex shields? Thanks Yes, I do have OCD. Also, please buff regen instead of HP...switching Cal and Min regen rates and shield delays would be awesome "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 399	Posted - 2014.09.03 04:08:00 - [28] - Quote No scout? :/ That's really disappointing. I'm all for buffing minmatar recharge speed and delays instead of health if you're willing to go that route, it'll retain the minmatar's place in the eHP continuum while allowing them to better function in there role. I'd kill for some efficacy bonuses to rechargers, energizers and regulators. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1065	Posted - 2014.09.03 04:23:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Hawkings Greenback wrote: Why no love for the Min logi ? MM logi was fine, 240 vs GA/CA at 270 and Amarr at 300, 30 difference on both sides. I'm assuming Min logistics will be buffed to have the best speed and stamina regen and best shield regen rates and amount to compensate being easier to kill than basics. It takes more SP and isk to run logistics compared to an assault. Yet it isn't 'necessary' to buff them? Doesn't the investment count for anything? But it's perfectly ok to buff assaults that just got 150 more eHP and slots at zero cost? I'm sensing major favoritism. You rattatai,have present zero legit reasons to keep logistics nerfed beyond 'quid pro quo' statements. Tell me that logistics is getting nothing while costing the most investment and i'll biomass tomorrow. I've sat through being nerfed,i've sat through FOTM leaving logistics a ragged and dirty stain because of the FOTM prevention nerfs,i refuse to sit through anymore. If there is nothing for logistics in this next update i'm biomassing and i'll go play a game that respects support and actually desires their game to succeed. Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 387	Posted - 2014.09.03 05:51:00 - [30] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Also, please buff regen ~~instead of~~ as well as HP...switching Cal and Min regen rates and shield delays would be awesome FTFY Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.



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