roof tops are easy.. ADS or dropship+flux or even a F**K you orbital to remove the problem roof campers.. i sware the community is getting younger, lazier and more butthurt and whining and QQing like toddlers

I've been here since Mordus Private trials. So I am not "new" or "young"

And from Mordus to Chromosome, such issue was never presented. Since almost nobody ran with uplinks back then. And the ones that did, well they got placed in a strategic spot. NOt just a huge cluster of them in one small area.

The issue with rooftop campers/spawners, is that they always have a few merc sniping and 1-2 forge gunners. So really getting a dropship to fly up there is a waste of ISK.

Now, the one I can forgive are the Towers at Line Harvest, since those are flat surfaces. But what about the Tower at Border Gulch? The places where you can leave a spawn uplink are unflattened, it offers a great view to the Objective in Domination and with one or 2 forgers up there, they have a secured spot. You can kill one with a sniper, but he will just spawn back, and with a more brinked suit.

Now if you want to fly up there and camp, be my guest. But being able to leave a uplink in such area must not be encouraged.

As of now, in Dust you can leave a Uplink anywhere in the game except on top of the MCC and Acid pools (Yet for some reason I spawned inside an acid pool)


And if the CPM has taken notice of this, then it is certainly an issue. Because uplink spam is an easy and risk free way to get a lot of WP over little time.

Trust me the CPM 1 is very aware of the issue and we're moving forward on a first possible solution available within current means and logistics.

There are dozens and dozens of things wrong with the current links

One of which we hate to see is that higher tier players are FORCED to NOT to get shot. If they die so does their bonus. Same logic applies to Cal logis as well with their hives.

Or just maybe we bring.the warbarge strike back down to 25k since OBs were used to clear rooftip campers

How about we worry about things that are actually broken.

Unbalanced weapons.
Random inability to sprint or drop equipment.
Getting stuck on flat terrain.
Rubber banding from one side of the map to the other.


What was I thinking? CCP should certainly drop everything and come up with a mechanic that stops people from playing their part in the game so that OP does not have to expend effort on taking a roof top from the enemy.

This issues have been here for long so it seems kinda fishy that they aren't fixed yet tbh

I think it is time we take a look at equipment spam. Especially the amount of Uplinks that can be deployed in one area.
Not only it is a very noobish strategy, but it also makes the game lag. BUt as long as that Logi is getting WP they really won't care.

Every Skirmish and Domination now consists of "who ever spam the objective with more Uplink's wins"

Long are the days were placing an Uplink at a very hidden but strategic area meant the difference between the battles.

And now Uplinks are being able to be deployed in rather unbelievable places to reach. If I had a capture card, I would make a video on it.

But I can only point them out:
Border Gulch: Right at 9E where the Tower is.

Gallente Research Facility: Normally were A is in Domination and B in Skirmish. You can place a bunch of Uplinks around the top corners of the silo the objective is located in. I think it is rather BS and that Uplinks and any other type of deployable equipment should pop when deployed there.

Orbital Artillery: Basically here, the huge tower, and the little reactor thingies that are near the Objective A in Domination. When equipment get placed on top of the reactor thingies (I really don't know how they are called) they should pop.

And we all know the towers of Line Harvest

Now this are some unfair locations and advantaged where you can place Uplinks and have them almost untouched.

"Oh, but you can always call a dropship and destroy the uplinks yourself"
We all now that most rooftop campers and rooftop spawn areas are always being watched by 1 or 2 Forgers + Swarmers. so getting up there to destroy the uplinks becomes a hindrance rather than helping out your team. While this itself is a good strategy, it is also unfair that some (if not most) of this rooftop areas also provide an over look to the ground below. Making place for Forgers and Snipers to get easy kills. Again, calling in a drophip is a waste of ISK (and if you are short on ISK don't risk it) because the forger will always spot you.

You can always counter snipe but they can just waddle away and dissapear from your sights.




But the real issue for me is the never ending equipment spam. Not only is it a cheap tactic to get WP but it also lowers the frame rate of the match you are in. Many ways to counter the spam have been given but any present flaws.

The only real solution to this would be for the equipment to disappear when you change suits a supply depot. But of course the WP whores will cry and say that is unfair while they sit in a spot gaining never ending 25+ Warpoints per each Uplink they have out.

Restricting equipment to suit it was fitted seems the most logical way to fix the equipment spam. You want to lay out a bunch of Uplinks to help your team spawn? Well use all your equipment slots to fit the Uplinks, but do know that you will be very weak.

TL;DR:

Upinks and other deployable equipment spam are causing frame rate issues to the game, yet people keep doing it because easy and risk free WP

Uplinks can be placed at very unreachable and questionable places. They should insta pop in those places rather than staying there

Only way to fix equipment spam is to restrict the equipment to the suit rather than the clone. That way the spam will die out and Uplinks will start to be placed more strategically again.

I will keep bumping this thread until I see a dev response on how they would address the issue of equipment spam and placing equipment on questionable places.

You might also like to know about Sky uplinks
http://youtu.be/dZirxL6AM78

there needs to be a cap in uplinks

This solution was suggested. But the Uplink spammers cried "Oh but what happens if I want to leave an uplink at a good place and then it pops?"

More annoying than lag is the noise... MAKE IT STOP! They mess with awareness, man...

& the non uplink spammers would have cried when there were no spawns in the objective, because some tard put them all in the redzone...

limit on hive/uplink being within 40 meters would have been better.

And to quote the 2 guys against the whole fixing uplinks ideas.

"Get a flux and destroy them u scrub"

Yeah, they support something that is not only a scrub tactic, but also ruins the game by causing lag and frame rate drops.

But we are the ones that are wrong here and we need to "get gud"

Another thing, why is leaving Uplinks inside the redline a thing?

Every time I flux a lot of those spammed equipments, the guy typically just switches back at the supply depot and proceeds to re-spam them. It's really stupid and needs to be stopped.

I'd be up for say maybe 5 nanohives and 5 uplinks per character. Not like the vehicle limit. At least that way one ahole logi can't just spam every single type of each in a small area.

Those that say lag is a reason to attempt to dictate game play are foolish and have some extremely backwards logic. In fact we actually tested earlier and placed over 50 pieces of equipment in the sup dep on the infamous lag city with zero drop so maybe you should wire up a little more tin foil to your 5 bit internet connection and stop lagging the rest of us down and complaining.

I have remade all my suits, I use to only drop 3 links per area to present some of the tactical advantages that I stated earlier but I will not rest until there are 15 pieces of equipment in any area that i feel like putting it.

NON-scrubs who know how flux grenades work you are welcome in advance.

Deployed equipment needs to pop whenver you switch suits on a supply depot.

Sure this is a great idea. Now 4 out of the 16 man team can drop equipment and hide in the corner so that the rest of the team can spawn or have ammo. Your forward thinking stretches beyond measure.

Sure this is a great idea. Now 4 out of the 16 man team can drop equipment and hide in the corner so that the rest of the team can spawn or have ammo. Your forward thinking stretches beyond measure.

And following your logic, if it's okay for a logi to switch suits to keep spamming equipment okay, then if I am under fire and near a supply depot I can just whip out my Heavy and mow everyone down.

That is exactly what everyone does anyway so this argument really does nothing for you.

But it is still a scrub tactic and you know it. Like spamming uplinks in one area.

NON-scrubs who know how flux grenades work you are welcome in advance.